NFT: Knicks Chat- Worst team in the NBA

I agree Robinson has a ton of pontential and can be a good center. But he also has a long way to go and I haven�t seen a huge improvement throughout the season.
- yes Trier can be a nice scorer off the bench.
- Vonleh and Mudiay have improved. It�s also almost certain they won�t be here next year.

I just think this �young core� gets a littler overrated. My point is these guys are still a big question mark if they can be legit contributors on a good team.

That would tend to slow his development, no?

In comment 14282266 TyreeHelmet said:

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I agree Robinson has a ton of pontential and can be a good center. But he also has a long way to go and I haven�t seen a huge improvement throughout the season. - yes Trier can be a nice scorer off the bench. - Vonleh and Mudiay have improved. It�s also almost certain they won�t be here next year. I just think this �young core� gets a littler overrated. My point is these guys are still a big question mark if they can be legit contributors on a good team.

they are 19, knox is the 2nd youngest player in the nba and started basketball late...

robinson did not play at all last year...

what did you expect?

have a little patience

to soften the blow when they send him to New Orleans? Seems more likely it's coming from KP and his idiot sibling.

Robinson is 20, not 19. Birthday's in April.

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Cash your checks, wear your ugly suits on the bench and shut your fucking mouth.

I don't get what he did wrong. Talking with the team is exactly what he should be doing.

In comment 14282271 Greg from LI said:

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That would tend to slow his development, no?

Fair point and I get how young him and Knox are. The improvement of Mudiay and Vonleh is great. But it�s very unlikely they have a future here. And Frank and Dotson haven�t made any strides this season.

Maybe it�s just the awful losing but I just view most of these guys as a massive question mark. They run no offense, play awful defense and just haven�t shown much in recent games...

In comment 14282278 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 14282265 bceagle05 said: Quote: Cash your checks, wear your ugly suits on the bench and shut your fucking mouth. I don't get what he did wrong. Talking with the team is exactly what he should be doing.

follow the league much? Someone leaked this for a reason.

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to soften the blow when they send him to New Orleans? Seems more likely it's coming from KP and his idiot sibling.

i thought this to

KP and Knox for AD.

I'm sick of this KP drama. Every fucking week it's something new with him.

and was a terrible miss of a lotto pick.

In comment 14282280 Enzo said:

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In comment 14282278 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: In comment 14282265 bceagle05 said: Quote: Cash your checks, wear your ugly suits on the bench and shut your fucking mouth. I don't get what he did wrong. Talking with the team is exactly what he should be doing. follow the league much? Someone leaked this for a reason.

Yeah. And we're just assuming it was him?

In comment 14282275 bceagle05 said:

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to soften the blow when they send him to New Orleans? Seems more likely it's coming from KP and his idiot sibling.

you would do that AFTER the trade. It's most likely KP and his agent stirring the pot.

so it's safer to assume he's working on an exit plan or is worried he's being shipped out for Anthony Davis. I hope it's the latter - dude needs to devour some humble pie.

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In comment 14282275 bceagle05 said: Quote: to soften the blow when they send him to New Orleans? Seems more likely it's coming from KP and his idiot sibling. you would do that AFTER the trade. It's most likely KP and his agent stirring the pot.

i almost wonder they heard his name in trade talks...

the 2nd tweet from woj was interesting saying how hr just wants to build a winner in new york, almost like please do not trade me

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If I'm the Knicks, to do this I need one of the 3 objectives below and I make the move. Davis while keeping KP. Davis while keeping the 2019 1st. Davis while opening up 2 max slots in free agency.

Same here. I think they could actually pull this off.

and coming back from injury

why would they ever trade Davis for that? unless KP showed he was healthy or committed to extension prior?

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and coming back from injury why would they ever trade Davis for that? unless KP showed he was healthy or committed to extension prior?

I dunno. Why did the Cavs trade their star (who was under contract for 2 full years) for a broken down Isaiah?

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In comment 14282299 hitdog42 said: Quote: and coming back from injury why would they ever trade Davis for that? unless KP showed he was healthy or committed to extension prior? I dunno. Why did the Cavs trade their star (who was under contract for 2 full years) for a broken down Isaiah?

umm because they were catering to GM lebron- dealing with 2 millenial babies--- and at that point trying to keep lebron happy----- the comparison isnt remotely close to similar.
and AD might be the best player in the leauge

So the Lakers and Pelicans have spoken. Report from Brad Turner and Woj issued a correction. I think he�s a Laker before the deadline. The longer they wait, the offers get worse.

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when the knicks are winning again i hope you are suffering on a shit team

terrible

Hopefully Perry has a keener eye for talent.

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In comment 14282319 hitdog42 said:

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In comment 14282306 Enzo said: Quote: In comment 14282299 hitdog42 said: Quote: and coming back from injury why would they ever trade Davis for that? unless KP showed he was healthy or committed to extension prior? I dunno. Why did the Cavs trade their star (who was under contract for 2 full years) for a broken down Isaiah? umm because they were catering to GM lebron- dealing with 2 millenial babies--- and at that point trying to keep lebron happy----- the comparison isnt remotely close to similar. and AD might be the best player in the leauge

If they were trying to make him happy, they could have, you know, maybe made a better trade? GM LeBron didn't force the Cavs "braintrust" to make a bad deal, they did that all by themselves. Funny how the Celtics still have all of these assets to offer...

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Whenever we get something nice, it never lasts...whether rightly or wrongly.

Linsanity? Gone at the end of the season. Our alleged savior Porzingis? Our franchise player? Won't even see the end of his rookie deal.

There is a good chance he just walks after a year anyway. The Pelicans offer a better supporting cast than the Knicks right now, much better if the Knicks trade all of their decent young players and give away the pick.

You can assume Durant, Kawhi or Kyrie would come in free agency but that�s hardly a sure thing. Most likely scenario IMO would be Durant stays with Golden State, Kawhi goes to Lakers or Clippers, Kyrie stays in Boston.

In that scenario the Knicks are fucked and Davis probably just goes to the Lakers in a year.

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I can't get upset about it.

Porzingis, Knox, Robinson, any future first/s after 2019.

Or switch out Knox and Robinson and put the 2019 first in there but make sure you have room for 2 max contracts.

No fucking way. Not a single damn chance. Would HATE that.

when they didn't extend him last year. Some cautioned against this strategy - even though it would have resulted in less cap room this summer.

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Porzingis, Knox, Robinson, any future first/s after 2019. Or switch out Knox and Robinson and put the 2019 first in there but make sure you have room for 2 max contracts.

Fuck that. Way too much.

You won�t get $ for $. That�s where it hurts.

In comment 14282340 Beezer said:

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I can't get upset about it.

Why not? The team has the worst record in the NBA, mediocre young prospects and no clear direction. Terrible sign about the internal outlook. Coach fighting with Kanter (granted he's a moron), Frank a step back, coach talking about THjr's salary? Really? The Knicks continue to be a total mess. Can't wait until they pick 4th or 5th and land another Frank weeeeeeeeeeeee

if healthy he would be a top 10 player in the system.
but unclear about health.

and RFA would be more likely

Pitchers and catchers in what? 12 days?

Ahhhh.

LAL acquired AD for essentially their entire group of young assets such that they're roster was essentially LBJ, AD and MIN contract players, could they do another MAX offer this summer (Kyrie?)??

& come back news that KP wants to be traded? JFC.

We were always talking about George Hill at best with this guy.

Kanter will be a distant memory soon.

At least the Knicks are tanking right.

RE: Too much for Davis. Porzingis is currently hurt, coming up for a new contract as well as slightly overrated by Knicks fans.

Watch the Knicks dump KP for shit, KD doesn�t come. AD goes to Boston or LA and the Knicks drop to 5. Typical Knick bullshit.

Zion to the Knicks. He said not everyone can handle the spotlight that comes with NY because if you have even a little success you instantly become one of the most famous people on the planet, let alone in the sport. Maybe that's been an issue with Odell, but Odell is one of the best players in his sport. KP is a good young player with upside, but he's hardly proven anything. Yet, he's carried himself (or at least his representatives have) like he's a top star in the league.

I think this is entirely about his name popping up in trade rumors as opposed to "winning culture, direction of franchise" bullshit. I'd tell him to chill the fuck out. I'd also sure as hell try to trade him this summer for AD if the Knicks can somehow win the lottery.

It's a 10 - 40 season.
Get through the draft and off-season.
He is under control and we can match any offer.
If it's built right he will stay.

He has zero value right now unless you flip him for a top 6 pick. (Chicago, Phoenix, Cleveland)

And not just some rumor being spread by that piece of shit Wojnarowski?

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