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Who you got getting into the HOF?

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/31/2019 10:58 am
Gonzalez & Reed are locks.

I'd put in Bruce, Mawae, Ty Law, & Champ Bailey too.
Is Bruce a HOFer?  
Jints in Carolina : 1/31/2019 11:05 am : link
I guess being 13th on the all time receptions list is a plus.
Champ is a lock  
superspynyg : 1/31/2019 11:07 am : link
He was as good at cb as Reed was at S
I'd go with...  
Chris in Philly : 1/31/2019 11:17 am : link
1. Bailey
2. Reed
3. Gonzalez
4. Faneca
5. Mawae
6. Coryell
Ed Reed is the greatest  
Chris684 : 1/31/2019 11:28 am : link
football player I've seen since LT.

He looked like he was a varsity athlete playing at the JV level when he was on the field. Instincts, toughness, his return ability.

The man was incredible.
RE: Ed Reed is the greatest  
djstat : 1/31/2019 11:29 am : link
In comment 14282031 Chris684 said:
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football player I've seen since LT.

He looked like he was a varsity athlete playing at the JV level when he was on the field. Instincts, toughness, his return ability.

The man was incredible.
2/3rds of the earth is covered by water, the other 3rd is covered by Ed Reed.
I'd rank their HOF cases like this  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/31/2019 11:46 am : link
Ed Reed
Tony Gonzalez
Champ Bailey
Alan Faneca
Kevin Mawae

Isaac Bruce
Steve Hutchinson
Richard Seymour
Ty Law
Edgerrin James
Tony Boselli
Steve Atwater
John Lynch

Don Coryell
Tom Flores

Some great interior OLineman there. I think Hutchinson was actually the best of the 3 at his peak, but didn't have the longevity of Mawae and Faneca.
Ed Reed, Gonzalez and Bailey are locks  
figgy2989 : 1/31/2019 11:54 am : link
I just don't see Bruce as a HOF'er. For all those who argue the "stat compiler" route to getting in, Bruce should be your barometer. 16 year career, 15K yards, 91 TD's but never led the league in any receiving category in a single year.
RE: Ed Reed, Gonzalez and Bailey are locks  
figgy2989 : 1/31/2019 11:56 am : link
In comment 14282067 figgy2989 said:
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I just don't see Bruce as a HOF'er. For all those who argue the "stat compiler" route to getting in, Bruce should be your barometer. 16 year career, 15K yards, 91 TD's but never led the league in any receiving category in a single year.


Strike that last sentence, as he led the league in receiving yards in 1996, but that's it.
RE: Ed Reed, Gonzalez and Bailey are locks  
allstarjim : 1/31/2019 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14282067 figgy2989 said:
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I just don't see Bruce as a HOF'er. For all those who argue the "stat compiler" route to getting in, Bruce should be your barometer. 16 year career, 15K yards, 91 TD's but never led the league in any receiving category in a single year.


I just don't see Bailey as a lock like others. He might make it in this year, but I think Faneca, Mawae, and Hutchinson all have more deserving cases.
jim  
figgy2989 : 1/31/2019 12:23 pm : link
I can see that argument, but in the mid 2000's, Bailey was the best all around corners in the league. He had a few first team all pro's first and shit ton of pro bowls (which at that time was still considered an honor, not like today's shit show of an event).

Bruce was never an All-Pro and was a major benefactor of the greatest show on turf.

I really enjoyed seeing Amani Toomer beating Champ Bailey  
Jints in Carolina : 1/31/2019 12:33 pm : link
like a drum.
Ed Reed had more int's off deflections  
Doomster : 1/31/2019 12:46 pm : link
than any safety I ever saw......he was always around the ball.....
And by the way  
allstarjim : 1/31/2019 1:04 pm : link
I get the case with Bailey. He will get in, no doubt, at some point. I just think his reputation, name recognition, and media attention exceeded his caliber of play on the field. He was a very good corner for a long time, but I never thought he was in the elite category, like, best at his position in the NFL. Three-time All-Pro, and twelve Pro Bowls. It's just with the Pro Bowls, those are popularity contests. The All-Pros I do give a lot more creedence to. And he did have 18 INTs between '05-'06 which is remarkable.

But Mawae has 3 All-Pros also, while playing for a bad team, Faneca has 6 All-Pros, and Hutchinson 5 All-Pros. And those guys were, IMO, the best at their position in the NFL for a long time. Whereas, how much better, if any, was Bailey better than say, Ronde Barber or Charles Woodson or Asante Samuel or Antonio Cromartie or Marcus Trufant? And he definitely wasn't better than Darrell Revis, who played in his era.
RE: jim  
allstarjim : 1/31/2019 1:06 pm : link
In comment 14282090 figgy2989 said:
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I can see that argument, but in the mid 2000's, Bailey was the best all around corners in the league. He had a few first team all pro's first and shit ton of pro bowls (which at that time was still considered an honor, not like today's shit show of an event).

Bruce was never an All-Pro and was a major benefactor of the greatest show on turf.


Back then the Pro Bowl was still just a popularity contest.
IMO Mawae and Faneca should be locks  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/31/2019 1:26 pm : link
Chosen as Center and Guard on the all-2000s team. In fact, Faneca has competition from Hutchinson, Mawae has none.

I don't get the Isaac Bruce calls at all. No all-Pros. He wasn't even the best WR on his team.
RE: I really enjoyed seeing Amani Toomer beating Champ Bailey  
kinard : 1/31/2019 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14282111 Jints in Carolina said:
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like a drum.


This... I guess I'm in the minority but I think Champ Baily was way over-rated.
John Lynch was way overrated during his career  
fanofthejets : 1/31/2019 2:40 pm : link
Does not deserve to be in the hall ever. This guy made so many undeserved pro bowls. Was never even remotely close to being a dominant player
Champ was awesome  
twostepgiants : 1/31/2019 8:58 pm : link
And should get in for this play alone to give Brady his first playoff loss
Champ vs Brady - ( New Window )
George Young  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/31/2019 9:18 pm : link
The rest can wait

Such a travesty that Young is overlooked
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