of near historic proportion on BBI (got to think it rivals even the most contentious Eli threads) was fascinating to go through, from disbelief, denial, rage, outrage, etc. to a more even handed evaluation of the outcomes once it hit home that KP (once unassailable as the Knicks' Saviour) was done with NYKs.
Question is which came first, chicken or egg, Perry et al. shopping him or KP and his team concluding he would sign a QO at best and then look elsewhere? At this point it doesn't matter, but the answer to that question will fascinate many.
And many will continue to focus on how could KD swap a dream franchise for this one...and how does he cope/perform in that new environment, if it comes to pass? Does Perry indeed have a magic wand big enough to neuter Dolan and Mills?
of near historic proportion on BBI (got to think it rivals even the most contentious Eli threads) was fascinating to go through, from disbelief, denial, rage, outrage, etc. to a more even handed evaluation of the outcomes once it hit home that KP (once unassailable as the Knicks' Saviour) was done with NYKs.
Question is which came first, chicken or egg, Perry et al. shopping him or KP and his team concluding he would sign a QO at best and then look elsewhere? At this point it doesn't matter, but the answer to that question will fascinate many.
And many will continue to focus on how could KD swap a dream franchise for this one...and how does he cope/perform in that new environment, if it comes to pass? Does Perry indeed have a magic wand big enough to neuter Dolan and Mills?
I was initially outraged/upset but now feel better about things...as this trade has gone lol.
of near historic proportion on BBI (got to think it rivals even the most contentious Eli threads) was fascinating to go through, from disbelief, denial, rage, outrage, etc. to a more even handed evaluation of the outcomes once it hit home that KP (once unassailable as the Knicks' Saviour) was done with NYKs.
Question is which came first, chicken or egg, Perry et al. shopping him or KP and his team concluding he would sign a QO at best and then look elsewhere? At this point it doesn't matter, but the answer to that question will fascinate many.
And many will continue to focus on how could KD swap a dream franchise for this one...and how does he cope/perform in that new environment, if it comes to pass? Does Perry indeed have a magic wand big enough to neuter Dolan and Mills?
I was initially outraged/upset but now feel better about things...as this trade has gone lol.
said the Pels did not think the Lakers first offer for AD was worth a response or a counteroffer lol.
Hilarious.
We can only hope the Pelicans/Davis (and his Dad) keep sticking it to LA and Boston.
This is setting up to be the most wild Knicks offseason ever.
Draft lottery
Potential AD sweepstakes
Potential number1 overall/top draft pick
Courtship of multiple max players
Gonna be fun.
I wonder if Perry talked to the Pelicans about AD and they wanted draft picks more than anything. Remember once the Pelicans trade AD, they are in a total rebuild so they have to acquire as many draft picks as possible. The Knicks can theoretically give the Pelicans 5 first round picks from 2019 to 2023 and 3 first round picks from 2019 to 2021. IMO the Knicks picks, especially this one (which could turn into Zion, RJ or Ja Morant) are more valuable to the Pelicans than 2 or 3 good but not great young Lakers players
And many will continue to focus on how could KD swap a dream franchise for this one...and how does he cope/perform in that new environment, if it comes to pass? Does Perry indeed have a magic wand big enough to neuter Dolan and Mills?
It might be a dream franchise to you or I, but it doesn't mean it was for him.
He's close friends with Luka Doncic, and Dirk has been something of a mentor for KP since they met. I think he's fine.
And many will continue to focus on how could KD swap a dream franchise for this one...and how does he cope/perform in that new environment, if it comes to pass? Does Perry indeed have a magic wand big enough to neuter Dolan and Mills?
It might be a dream franchise to you or I, but it doesn't mean it was for him.
He's close friends with Luka Doncic, and Dirk has been something of a mentor for KP since they met. I think he's fine.
I would like to get AD but I think that is a severe overpay. The Pelicans have leverage but you don’t need to give away every player on the team and four number 1’s.
Agreed. You need some assets to build fill out the team and for depth.
I would like to get AD but I think that is a severe overpay. The Pelicans have leverage but you don’t need to give away every player on the team and four number 1’s.
Agreed. You need some assets to build fill out the team and for depth.
If you get KD, AD, Kyrie...no other "assets" needed for 4 years. You can fill that roster with the right imperfect 2nd rounders and vet minimums and be a legit eastern conference contender.
"The city deserves better than that.... My suggestion for Knicks fans is to STAY WOKE!! Peace,"
The way he's behaved post-trade certainly makes me feel a lot better about the deal. He's a petulant child who continues to bad mouth the organization after he's dealt. Not to mention, his first public message post trade was a gif of him and Luka, not thanking the fans or acting in anyway with class.
"The city deserves better than that.... My suggestion for Knicks fans is to STAY WOKE!! Peace,"
The way he's behaved post-trade certainly makes me feel a lot better about the deal. He's a petulant child who continues to bad mouth the organization after he's dealt. Not to mention, his first public message post trade was a gif of him and Luka, not thanking the fans or acting in anyway with class.
KP is literally still just a kid, but I don’t mind having Dallas now wait for his maturity to come.
People need to stop referring to KP as a kid. He’s not. Â
KP is 23 years old. He’s an adult. An immature, douchey adult.
Some people don’t grow out of being a dick. Sometimes they are just a dick. KP is one of them and I hope his leg falls off.
It was clear that the Knicks were never going to be a top team with KP because I don’t think that KP was going to draw any star players on his own. This is a risky move but one that could really pay off. And if now, what are we really losing? More disappointment?
For all the pissing and moaning about this “shitty franchise” and having no shot at big FAs because they all think the Knicks are a joke...star players seem to talk pretty highly about playing in and against NY [Knicks]. And they all seem to want to get their “garden moment”. I think the image of the Knicks/MSG is fine among players. The NBA is different these days and we just need to be in the right situation for them to come. We were almost there in 2010 but not quite. Hopefully we get there this time.
"The city deserves better than that.... My suggestion for Knicks fans is to STAY WOKE!! Peace,"
The way he's behaved post-trade certainly makes me feel a lot better about the deal. He's a petulant child who continues to bad mouth the organization after he's dealt. Not to mention, his first public message post trade was a gif of him and Luka, not thanking the fans or acting in anyway with class.
Stay woke to what? the only 2 people that thought this team was doing anything other than tanking was him and kanter...
Look at lee he knew what this was and never complained once about sitting..
KP is delusional and now the dailynews and howard beck are ripping the knicks because they did kp wrong...
first off how did the knicksrip him? they said he wanted out so they traded him..
"The city deserves better than that.... My suggestion for Knicks fans is to STAY WOKE!! Peace,"
The way he's behaved post-trade certainly makes me feel a lot better about the deal. He's a petulant child who continues to bad mouth the organization after he's dealt. Not to mention, his first public message post trade was a gif of him and Luka, not thanking the fans or acting in anyway with class.
Stay woke to what? the only 2 people that thought this team was doing anything other than tanking was him and kanter...
Look at lee he knew what this was and never complained once about sitting..
KP is delusional and now the dailynews and howard beck are ripping the knicks because they did kp wrong...
first off how did the knicksrip him? they said he wanted out so they traded him..
I believe he is saying keep your eyes open that stuff is really going on behind the scenes. This was a step put in motion for these guys (KD etc.) to come here.
Seemed like a noce guy- seemed like issues with the franchise started quite some time ago- his brother seems like a pain in the ass
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
Seemed like a noce guy- seemed like issues with the franchise started quite some time ago- his brother seems like a pain in the ass
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
Agree 100% on your point about the franchise. Can’t fully trust anything they do or say.
Well, Fizdale flew to Latvia to kiss KP's ass for a week Â
and KP proceeded to throw Fiz under the bus with that Instagram post of him sprinting - that's when KP lost me. I'm not gonna act like a jilted ex now that KP is gone, but we all shared the same concerns about him regarding his durability and attitude. Once the initial shock wore off, I had no issue with this.
I find it very troubling that the Knicks blocked the Daily News Â
I liked the KP trade, but the Knicks organization gets no benefit of the doubt. Honestly, it’s amazing the arrogance of most Knick fans, this franchise has been a complete dumpster fire.
Amazingly, there are people on BBI more critical if the Giants than thru are the Knicks. Absolutely baffling.
RE: I find it very troubling that the Knicks blocked the Daily News Â
for media access. Good for the Post calling Dolan out on this. I can’t imagine anyone defending this. Awful look.
Completely agree. I dislike Bondy as much as anybody, but he only became an Isola-level troll AFTER the Knicks starting bannng him. He was irritating but harmless beforehand.
Bondy is a troll- trolled the nets until they started winning - then got barred from Knicks and 50 percent of what he says is to troll- the other half I agree with
Seemed like a noce guy- seemed like issues with the franchise started quite some time ago- his brother seems like a pain in the ass
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
Wait, KP continues to act like a child (seems like a nice guy) while the FO looks to be finally on the right track...but we are supposed to give KP the benefit of the doubt on his way out while he continues to throw shade at the team? Is that your take?
Please tell me where the Knicks have wronged KP at all over his time here? I mean, we obviously don’t know everything that happens behind the scenes but normally we’d hear something. Especially with how slimy and dirty the NY media is. What have the Knicks done to KP so bad that makes it okay to act like an entitled jerk who undermines the team? And then to demand a trade like he’s some superstar when he hasn’t even touched the court in a year?
Sorry, I’m not going kill the team when the FO seems to be doing the right things while the immature player barks on the way out.
I liked the KP trade, but the Knicks organization gets no benefit of the doubt. Honestly, it’s amazing the arrogance of most Knick fans, this franchise has been a complete dumpster fire.
Amazingly, there are people on BBI more critical if the Giants than thru are the Knicks. Absolutely baffling.
This does have a different feel to it then prior years for the Knicks (like the Miami stuff was going on behind the scenes well ahead of it coming together) but yes we need to reserve judgement until it actually happens.
RE: I find it very troubling that the Knicks blocked the Daily News Â
for media access. Good for the Post calling Dolan out on this. I can’t imagine anyone defending this. Awful look.
The Daily News is toilet paper, and when they actually employed writers they were shit stirring dirt bags. It doesn’t bother me at all that they were blocked media access.
But durant has not talked to the media since kp trade, probably doesnt want to answer questions about the knicks but one of their beats said it is very unusual for kd not to be around
But durant has not talked to the media since kp trade, probably doesnt want to answer questions about the knicks but one of their beats said it is very unusual for kd not to be around
All due respect... it's February. Unless he's a moron he knows he will have to deal with these questions. I'd guess this is 100% unrelated.
RE: If you do not want to be treated like a tabloid Â
stop writing like a tabloid, the giants players basically threatened pat leonard and he was kicked off the rangers beat because he made up stories...
It doesnt look good but i can see why the new york sports teams are sick of the daily news
Exactly. They act like the NYDN is Woodward and Bernstein doing the world some big public service. He’s a hack for a tabloid covering a basketball team.
Seemed like a noce guy- seemed like issues with the franchise started quite some time ago- his brother seems like a pain in the ass
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
There’s more to the story. It’s not really a “choose your side” deal. I loosely know a player who was on the Knicks a couple of years ago (friend of a friend type deal) who said that KP changed a lot from the guy he was when he came to the team. He would argue with and not listen to coaches and thought he knew better. He was also partying more and putting in less work in the game. This guy told me that the former had a lot to do with Melo’s influence as they were close and the latter with him hanging out with Shumpert and JR early on. I thought with those guys gone and the new regime he’d move past that and grow into his role as the leader of the team but that’s clearly not what happened.
Seemed like a noce guy- seemed like issues with the franchise started quite some time ago- his brother seems like a pain in the ass
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
There’s more to the story. It’s not really a “choose your side” deal. I loosely know a player who was on the Knicks a couple of years ago (friend of a friend type deal) who said that KP changed a lot from the guy he was when he came to the team. He would argue with and not listen to coaches and thought he knew better. He was also partying more and putting in less work in the game. This guy told me that the former had a lot to do with Melo’s influence as they were close and the latter with him hanging out with Shumpert and JR early on. I thought with those guys gone and the new regime he’d move past that and grow into his role as the leader of the team but that’s clearly not what happened.
That was poorly worded. The guys on the team then we’re heavily influenced by Shumpert and Smith and it rubbed off on KP was my point
quite like a childish foreign white guy telling people to stay woke.
Ok Kristaps, this is a great way to use the term in regards to a team you feuded with that wanted you to sit out more games to ensure you were healed and try to get you a better player to play with next year.
Seemed like a noce guy- seemed like issues with the franchise started quite some time ago- his brother seems like a pain in the ass
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
There’s more to the story. It’s not really a “choose your side” deal. I loosely know a player who was on the Knicks a couple of years ago (friend of a friend type deal) who said that KP changed a lot from the guy he was when he came to the team. He would argue with and not listen to coaches and thought he knew better. He was also partying more and putting in less work in the game. This guy told me that the former had a lot to do with Melo’s influence as they were close and the latter with him hanging out with Shumpert and JR early on. I thought with those guys gone and the new regime he’d move past that and grow into his role as the leader of the team but that’s clearly not what happened.
This sucks to hear but it is not at all surprising. Another funny part of this is that Noah was sold as a great character guy for the team when we signed him and then apparently "partied too much." It's hard to undersell what a disaster the Knicks franchise is. I'll be thrilled if we can pull off signing KD and admit it is certainly possible but for the life of me I can't understand how anyone could have any faith in the front office. Perry seems good but Dolan is still the owner. And Mills is still the guy that paid Hardaway so much that we needed to package our best young player in like 20 years to get rid of him. It is definitely more likely that we find a way to screw up any plan than do something great.
But durant has not talked to the media since kp trade, probably doesnt want to answer questions about the knicks but one of their beats said it is very unusual for kd not to be around
All due respect... it's February. Unless he's a moron he knows he will have to deal with these questions. I'd guess this is 100% unrelated.
i would assume so, the beat writer just said it is very weird for kd not to be around and talk to media after game
RE: I find it very troubling that the Knicks blocked the Daily News Â
I can't bring myself to care about the daily news being blocked out when there are 30 other outlets who cover the Knicks (better). This isn't suppression of journalism.
of harsh coverage. All of the other beat guys are very critical of the Knicks. This has to do with Bondy's insistence on making things up to stir the pot clearly. Hell, he said the day of the trade that KP has been healthy enough to play but didn't trust the Knicks not to botch his comeback. Only a day later, the Mavs made it clear he's still recovering and Cuban said he's unlikely to play at all this year. This type of thing happens all the time...
was shock and disgust; I really like Porzingis. But, the more I think about it, the more I like the deal. First, they likely would have had to pay him a max deal coming off an injury. Second, he has yet to play a full season. Third, they get 2 1st round picks, and neither is lottery protected. Lastly, they now can push for 2 FAs.
One thing to think about though...at 31 next year, Durant will actually be 6 years older than Melo was when they dealt for him. If they actually land him and another, they have to push to win right away. And, I don't want Irving.
was shock and disgust; I really like Porzingis. But, the more I think about it, the more I like the deal. First, they likely would have had to pay him a max deal coming off an injury. Second, he has yet to play a full season. Third, they get 2 1st round picks, and neither is lottery protected. Lastly, they now can push for 2 FAs.
One thing to think about though...at 31 next year, Durant will actually be 6 years older than Melo was when they dealt for him. If they actually land him and another, they have to push to win right away. And, I don't want Irving.
Of course they do and if they don't then don't buy it or read it. Allowing rich assholes to ban press they don't like has nothing to do with quality content. It has to do with freedom of the press.
Of course they do and if they don't then don't buy it or read it. Allowing rich assholes to ban press they don't like has nothing to do with quality content. It has to do with freedom of the press.
Freedom of the press?? Lol, the idea of defending Dolan sickens me but that does not apply here.
A tabloid who calls itself a newspaper should be ignored not victimized.
Irving? He's an insanely good offensive player and it's not volume scoring. He's at like 50-40-85, fg, 3pt, FT % this year I think.
Irving and Durant would be a match made in heaven. They would work perfectly well together
Why would they “work perfectly well together”? He could co exist with LeBron who does a better job of sharing the ball than Durant. Kyrie and Durant are both scorers who need the ball. The reason Durant and Steph work well together is b/c it was Stephs team before he arrived and he doesn’t have the on court attitude the Kyrie does
That's sad foolish and really dumb. But you're not alone there's about 37% of you.
What would be foolish is placing everything operating under the name 'journalism' on the same level.
Not all media should be held to the same standard. Barstool sports and the NY times arent the same animal, and some reporters are legitimate professionals and some are not. The wall st journal, times, Yahoo and ESPN can all still cover the knicks.
We can have a discussion about the fact that there is a legitimate effort to undercut real freedom of the press in the country, but this ain't it.
with Spencer Pearlman of The Stepien, an NBA draft website. Biggest news was about 15 minutes or so into the discussion - he said he had one source in Golden State and one in New York tell him that Durant is coming to the Knicks. Neither source works with the teams, but the Golden State source has provided accurate info in the past and the New York source is someone he trusts.
Regarding draft prospects, he said Zion is the only one who'd make his first tier in last year's draft (Jaren Jackson and Luka) - none of the other prospects would make second tier in last year's draft. He said Texas PF Jaxson Hayes may rise into the top five discussion by season's end. Maybe a KP replacement if we drop?
He closed with two thoughts on Perry. He's a big believer in developing relationships, and figures KP was jettisoned before his attitude became too much of a problem. He suspects they're dragging things out with Kanter through the trade deadline because the players know he's a clown, just like most fans do - no fear of him infecting anyone else. Also, Perry's super organized and will have Plans A-Z this offseason. Pearlman said Knicks fans shouldn't worry about paying top dollar to non-max guys, unless KD demands they get the best player they can as a running mate. KnicksFilmSchool - ( New Window )
Kristaps Porzingis’ brother wanted a bigger role with Knicks Â
Question is which came first, chicken or egg, Perry et al. shopping him or KP and his team concluding he would sign a QO at best and then look elsewhere? At this point it doesn't matter, but the answer to that question will fascinate many.
And many will continue to focus on how could KD swap a dream franchise for this one...and how does he cope/perform in that new environment, if it comes to pass? Does Perry indeed have a magic wand big enough to neuter Dolan and Mills?
Question is which came first, chicken or egg, Perry et al. shopping him or KP and his team concluding he would sign a QO at best and then look elsewhere? At this point it doesn't matter, but the answer to that question will fascinate many.
And many will continue to focus on how could KD swap a dream franchise for this one...and how does he cope/perform in that new environment, if it comes to pass? Does Perry indeed have a magic wand big enough to neuter Dolan and Mills?
I was initially outraged/upset but now feel better about things...as this trade has gone lol.
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of near historic proportion on BBI (got to think it rivals even the most contentious Eli threads) was fascinating to go through, from disbelief, denial, rage, outrage, etc. to a more even handed evaluation of the outcomes once it hit home that KP (once unassailable as the Knicks' Saviour) was done with NYKs.
Question is which came first, chicken or egg, Perry et al. shopping him or KP and his team concluding he would sign a QO at best and then look elsewhere? At this point it doesn't matter, but the answer to that question will fascinate many.
And many will continue to focus on how could KD swap a dream franchise for this one...and how does he cope/perform in that new environment, if it comes to pass? Does Perry indeed have a magic wand big enough to neuter Dolan and Mills?
I was initially outraged/upset but now feel better about things...as this trade has gone lol.
Trade = thread. Whoops.
Hilarious.
We can only hope the Pelicans/Davis (and his Dad) keep sticking it to LA and Boston.
This is setting up to be the most wild Knicks offseason ever.
Draft lottery
Potential AD sweepstakes
Potential number1 overall/top draft pick
Courtship of multiple max players
Gonna be fun.
Hilarious.
We can only hope the Pelicans/Davis (and his Dad) keep sticking it to LA and Boston.
This is setting up to be the most wild Knicks offseason ever.
Draft lottery
Potential AD sweepstakes
Potential number1 overall/top draft pick
Courtship of multiple max players
Gonna be fun.
I wonder if Perry talked to the Pelicans about AD and they wanted draft picks more than anything. Remember once the Pelicans trade AD, they are in a total rebuild so they have to acquire as many draft picks as possible. The Knicks can theoretically give the Pelicans 5 first round picks from 2019 to 2023 and 3 first round picks from 2019 to 2021. IMO the Knicks picks, especially this one (which could turn into Zion, RJ or Ja Morant) are more valuable to the Pelicans than 2 or 3 good but not great young Lakers players
And many will continue to focus on how could KD swap a dream franchise for this one...and how does he cope/perform in that new environment, if it comes to pass? Does Perry indeed have a magic wand big enough to neuter Dolan and Mills?
It might be a dream franchise to you or I, but it doesn't mean it was for him.
He's close friends with Luka Doncic, and Dirk has been something of a mentor for KP since they met. I think he's fine.
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And many will continue to focus on how could KD swap a dream franchise for this one...and how does he cope/perform in that new environment, if it comes to pass? Does Perry indeed have a magic wand big enough to neuter Dolan and Mills?
It might be a dream franchise to you or I, but it doesn't mean it was for him.
He's close friends with Luka Doncic, and Dirk has been something of a mentor for KP since they met. I think he's fine.
He was talking about KD, not KP
Agreed. You need some assets to build fill out the team and for depth.
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I would like to get AD but I think that is a severe overpay. The Pelicans have leverage but you don’t need to give away every player on the team and four number 1’s.
Agreed. You need some assets to build fill out the team and for depth.
If you get KD, AD, Kyrie...no other "assets" needed for 4 years. You can fill that roster with the right imperfect 2nd rounders and vet minimums and be a legit eastern conference contender.
The way he's behaved post-trade certainly makes me feel a lot better about the deal. He's a petulant child who continues to bad mouth the organization after he's dealt. Not to mention, his first public message post trade was a gif of him and Luka, not thanking the fans or acting in anyway with class.
The way he's behaved post-trade certainly makes me feel a lot better about the deal. He's a petulant child who continues to bad mouth the organization after he's dealt. Not to mention, his first public message post trade was a gif of him and Luka, not thanking the fans or acting in anyway with class.
Some people don’t grow out of being a dick. Sometimes they are just a dick. KP is one of them and I hope his leg falls off.
It was clear that the Knicks were never going to be a top team with KP because I don’t think that KP was going to draw any star players on his own. This is a risky move but one that could really pay off. And if now, what are we really losing? More disappointment?
For all the pissing and moaning about this “shitty franchise” and having no shot at big FAs because they all think the Knicks are a joke...star players seem to talk pretty highly about playing in and against NY [Knicks]. And they all seem to want to get their “garden moment”. I think the image of the Knicks/MSG is fine among players. The NBA is different these days and we just need to be in the right situation for them to come. We were almost there in 2010 but not quite. Hopefully we get there this time.
The way he's behaved post-trade certainly makes me feel a lot better about the deal. He's a petulant child who continues to bad mouth the organization after he's dealt. Not to mention, his first public message post trade was a gif of him and Luka, not thanking the fans or acting in anyway with class.
Stay woke to what? the only 2 people that thought this team was doing anything other than tanking was him and kanter...
Look at lee he knew what this was and never complained once about sitting..
KP is delusional and now the dailynews and howard beck are ripping the knicks because they did kp wrong...
first off how did the knicksrip him? they said he wanted out so they traded him..
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"The city deserves better than that.... My suggestion for Knicks fans is to STAY WOKE!! Peace,"
The way he's behaved post-trade certainly makes me feel a lot better about the deal. He's a petulant child who continues to bad mouth the organization after he's dealt. Not to mention, his first public message post trade was a gif of him and Luka, not thanking the fans or acting in anyway with class.
Stay woke to what? the only 2 people that thought this team was doing anything other than tanking was him and kanter...
Look at lee he knew what this was and never complained once about sitting..
KP is delusional and now the dailynews and howard beck are ripping the knicks because they did kp wrong...
first off how did the knicksrip him? they said he wanted out so they traded him..
I believe he is saying keep your eyes open that stuff is really going on behind the scenes. This was a step put in motion for these guys (KD etc.) to come here.
funny mills and fizdale both said how they felt they had great talks with kp after the trade
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
Agree 100% on your point about the franchise. Can’t fully trust anything they do or say.
Amazingly, there are people on BBI more critical if the Giants than thru are the Knicks. Absolutely baffling.
Completely agree. I dislike Bondy as much as anybody, but he only became an Isola-level troll AFTER the Knicks starting bannng him. He was irritating but harmless beforehand.
Bondy is a troll- trolled the nets until they started winning - then got barred from Knicks and 50 percent of what he says is to troll- the other half I agree with
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
Wait, KP continues to act like a child (seems like a nice guy) while the FO looks to be finally on the right track...but we are supposed to give KP the benefit of the doubt on his way out while he continues to throw shade at the team? Is that your take?
Please tell me where the Knicks have wronged KP at all over his time here? I mean, we obviously don’t know everything that happens behind the scenes but normally we’d hear something. Especially with how slimy and dirty the NY media is. What have the Knicks done to KP so bad that makes it okay to act like an entitled jerk who undermines the team? And then to demand a trade like he’s some superstar when he hasn’t even touched the court in a year?
Sorry, I’m not going kill the team when the FO seems to be doing the right things while the immature player barks on the way out.
Amazingly, there are people on BBI more critical if the Giants than thru are the Knicks. Absolutely baffling.
This does have a different feel to it then prior years for the Knicks (like the Miami stuff was going on behind the scenes well ahead of it coming together) but yes we need to reserve judgement until it actually happens.
The Daily News is toilet paper, and when they actually employed writers they were shit stirring dirt bags. It doesn’t bother me at all that they were blocked media access.
It doesnt look good but i can see why the new york sports teams are sick of the daily news
All due respect... it's February. Unless he's a moron he knows he will have to deal with these questions. I'd guess this is 100% unrelated.
It doesnt look good but i can see why the new york sports teams are sick of the daily news
Exactly. They act like the NYDN is Woodward and Bernstein doing the world some big public service. He’s a hack for a tabloid covering a basketball team.
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
There’s more to the story. It’s not really a “choose your side” deal. I loosely know a player who was on the Knicks a couple of years ago (friend of a friend type deal) who said that KP changed a lot from the guy he was when he came to the team. He would argue with and not listen to coaches and thought he knew better. He was also partying more and putting in less work in the game. This guy told me that the former had a lot to do with Melo’s influence as they were close and the latter with him hanging out with Shumpert and JR early on. I thought with those guys gone and the new regime he’d move past that and grow into his role as the leader of the team but that’s clearly not what happened.
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Seemed like a noce guy- seemed like issues with the franchise started quite some time ago- his brother seems like a pain in the ass
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
There’s more to the story. It’s not really a “choose your side” deal. I loosely know a player who was on the Knicks a couple of years ago (friend of a friend type deal) who said that KP changed a lot from the guy he was when he came to the team. He would argue with and not listen to coaches and thought he knew better. He was also partying more and putting in less work in the game. This guy told me that the former had a lot to do with Melo’s influence as they were close and the latter with him hanging out with Shumpert and JR early on. I thought with those guys gone and the new regime he’d move past that and grow into his role as the leader of the team but that’s clearly not what happened.
That was poorly worded. The guys on the team then we’re heavily influenced by Shumpert and Smith and it rubbed off on KP was my point
Ok Kristaps, this is a great way to use the term in regards to a team you feuded with that wanted you to sit out more games to ensure you were healed and try to get you a better player to play with next year.
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Seemed like a noce guy- seemed like issues with the franchise started quite some time ago- his brother seems like a pain in the ass
But are we really now going off on kp and defending the franchise? What have the Knicks done In recent memory that would give them the benefit of doubt with handlings of things?
There’s more to the story. It’s not really a “choose your side” deal. I loosely know a player who was on the Knicks a couple of years ago (friend of a friend type deal) who said that KP changed a lot from the guy he was when he came to the team. He would argue with and not listen to coaches and thought he knew better. He was also partying more and putting in less work in the game. This guy told me that the former had a lot to do with Melo’s influence as they were close and the latter with him hanging out with Shumpert and JR early on. I thought with those guys gone and the new regime he’d move past that and grow into his role as the leader of the team but that’s clearly not what happened.
This sucks to hear but it is not at all surprising. Another funny part of this is that Noah was sold as a great character guy for the team when we signed him and then apparently "partied too much." It's hard to undersell what a disaster the Knicks franchise is. I'll be thrilled if we can pull off signing KD and admit it is certainly possible but for the life of me I can't understand how anyone could have any faith in the front office. Perry seems good but Dolan is still the owner. And Mills is still the guy that paid Hardaway so much that we needed to package our best young player in like 20 years to get rid of him. It is definitely more likely that we find a way to screw up any plan than do something great.
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But durant has not talked to the media since kp trade, probably doesnt want to answer questions about the knicks but one of their beats said it is very unusual for kd not to be around
All due respect... it's February. Unless he's a moron he knows he will have to deal with these questions. I'd guess this is 100% unrelated.
i would assume so, the beat writer just said it is very weird for kd not to be around and talk to media after game
Why do these media outlets deserve anything? The Daily news is garbage these days and that’s being kind.
Whys that?
Does a newspaper have any responsibility to produce a quality product?
One thing to think about though...at 31 next year, Durant will actually be 6 years older than Melo was when they dealt for him. If they actually land him and another, they have to push to win right away. And, I don't want Irving.
One thing to think about though...at 31 next year, Durant will actually be 6 years older than Melo was when they dealt for him. If they actually land him and another, they have to push to win right away. And, I don't want Irving.
The 2023 pick is protected 1-10.
Irving and Durant would be a match made in heaven. They would work perfectly well together
Freedom of the press?? Lol, the idea of defending Dolan sickens me but that does not apply here.
A tabloid who calls itself a newspaper should be ignored not victimized.
Irving and Durant would be a match made in heaven. They would work perfectly well together
Irving and Durant would be a match made in heaven. They would work perfectly well together
Why would they “work perfectly well together”? He could co exist with LeBron who does a better job of sharing the ball than Durant. Kyrie and Durant are both scorers who need the ball. The reason Durant and Steph work well together is b/c it was Stephs team before he arrived and he doesn’t have the on court attitude the Kyrie does
What would be foolish is placing everything operating under the name 'journalism' on the same level.
Not all media should be held to the same standard. Barstool sports and the NY times arent the same animal, and some reporters are legitimate professionals and some are not. The wall st journal, times, Yahoo and ESPN can all still cover the knicks.
We can have a discussion about the fact that there is a legitimate effort to undercut real freedom of the press in the country, but this ain't it.
Regarding draft prospects, he said Zion is the only one who'd make his first tier in last year's draft (Jaren Jackson and Luka) - none of the other prospects would make second tier in last year's draft. He said Texas PF Jaxson Hayes may rise into the top five discussion by season's end. Maybe a KP replacement if we drop?
He closed with two thoughts on Perry. He's a big believer in developing relationships, and figures KP was jettisoned before his attitude became too much of a problem. He suspects they're dragging things out with Kanter through the trade deadline because the players know he's a clown, just like most fans do - no fear of him infecting anyone else. Also, Perry's super organized and will have Plans A-Z this offseason. Pearlman said Knicks fans shouldn't worry about paying top dollar to non-max guys, unless KD demands they get the best player they can as a running mate.
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