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NFT: Knicks traded Porzingis to the Mavs

Strahan91 : 1/31/2019 3:42 pm
WOAH. Shedding Lee and THJ. Getting DSJ. No word on the rest
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Ryan in Albany : 1/31/2019 3:57 pm : link
The NBA should take the team from Dolan. He is truly the worst
RE: This is so freaking  
Greg from LI : 1/31/2019 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14282506 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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risky. They must have good intel that they're getting stars-plural-this summer. We'll see. I don't think this is a good look at all.


Think about what you're saying: you're putting faith in Perry, Mills, and Dolan, the Three Stooges.
RE: Good riddance.  
Sean : 1/31/2019 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14282511 Ace718 said:
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He's been a diva.


Yup.
RE: what marquee guy is signing with this clown show?  
bceagle05 : 1/31/2019 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14282503 Greg from LI said:
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Every time you think the Knicks couldn't possibly sink lower, they hop in the DSRV and go another thousand feet down. Can't wait to see them fall to 5 in the lottery.

C'mon Greg - at least Timmy's gone!
They'll end up getting Kemba  
Phil in LA : 1/31/2019 3:57 pm : link
and more busted lottery types.
Really, really need to not win games with Matthews and Jordan in  
Beezer : 1/31/2019 3:58 pm : link
a steady rotation. Winning games NOW would be a fucking travesty.
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The_Boss : 1/31/2019 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14282480 DanMetroMan said:
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Dallas does not have a 2019 pick, and is unable to trade their 2020 pick so assuming the pick is a 1st, the earliest would be 2021 #Knicks


Figure a LATE pick

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these go together perfectly  
Heisenberg : 1/31/2019 3:58 pm : link
It's the Knicks  
aimrocky : 1/31/2019 3:58 pm : link
we'll end up maxing out Amare again...

I'll see this thing through, but I was nearly done with the NBA to begin with. This may push me over the edge...
Just when I believe that this team is headed in the right direction  
Jay on the Island : 1/31/2019 3:59 pm : link
this happens. Great now we have room for 2 max contracts. I already know what's going to happen. All the stars will go elsewhere and the Knicks will panic and give good but not great players huge deals and we will be fighting for the 8th seed. Why not use Porzingis to get Davis?
I think I'll become a Mavs fan.  
bceagle05 : 1/31/2019 3:59 pm : link
Doncic and KP is gonna be fun to watch, for the 50 games per year KP will play.
RE: Knicks can sign Harper and Machado now.  
jcn56 : 1/31/2019 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14282498 bceagle05 said:
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LOL! Although to be fair, they might be the best basketball players the Knicks could get to play there at this point.
RE: RE: what marquee guy is signing with this clown show?  
Greg from LI : 1/31/2019 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14282517 bceagle05 said:
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C'mon Greg - at least Timmy's gone!


This trade is so bad, it even ruined THAT for me! haha
Bobby Marks  
Beezer : 1/31/2019 3:59 pm : link
tweets ...

He'd circle Matthews and Jordan buy-out targets.

BUY THEM OUT!
BUY THEM OUT!
BUY THEM OUT!
Giving KP a max contract was very risky  
Sean : 1/31/2019 4:00 pm : link
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RE: This is a MASSIVE risk  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/31/2019 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14282509 B in ALB said:
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To sign two max players next year.

However this went down - most likely a hit and run by Dolan and his two stooges - I really hate to see KP go.


This. Every time the Knicks get a glimpse of hope, the city awakens. Then Dolan and his crew ruin it.
Mavs  
TyreeHelmet : 1/31/2019 4:00 pm : link
Think about this- the Mavs got Luka and KP for Trae Young and taking on bad contracts and a pick between 10-15 this year and whatever garbage the send the Knicks.

And the Knicks use a 22 year old all star to dump 2 shitty contracts they gave out.

This team is going nowhere. A complete joke.
Just let Dolan move the franchise somewhere else  
Greg from LI : 1/31/2019 4:00 pm : link
and let us start over with an expansion team already
trey burke gone to  
nygiants16 : 1/31/2019 4:01 pm : link
you have to think the knicks know someone is definitely coming
I've been high on KD is coming to NY...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/31/2019 4:01 pm : link
But if he doesn't, yikes. Watch us give a max to Walker & Middleton, ensuring we're competing for a 5th or 6th seed for a couple of years. Oy vey.
I dont understand  
mattyblue : 1/31/2019 4:01 pm : link
wont this fuck their tanking up too?
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DanMetroMan : 1/31/2019 4:01 pm : link
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Sources: Full players involved in Knicks/Mavericks deal:

Kristaps Porzingis, Tim Hardaway Jr., Courtney Lee, Trey Burke to Dallas.

Dennis Smith Jr., Wes Matthews, DeAndre Jordan and likely first-round draft pick compensation to New York.
We all know now theyre going to win enough games  
The_Boss : 1/31/2019 4:01 pm : link
To fuck them out of Zion and Morant. Why? Because its the Knicks. Theyd fuck up a wet dream.
My god  
Jan in DC : 1/31/2019 4:02 pm : link
I hate this move. The one player that had any sort of value traded to get salary cap space. Knicks never ending rebuild.
The speed with which this trade occurred  
Jay on the Island : 1/31/2019 4:02 pm : link
has me convinced that the Knicks did not get max value for KP. If they were going to trade him he should have been in a deal for Anthony Davis.
RE: Giving KP a max contract was very risky  
bceagle05 : 1/31/2019 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14282529 Sean said:
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It was. I'm disappointed, but not in a hysterical state over this. It will be fun to listen to all the media folks who said KP was too injury-prone to lead us anywhere do the 180 and say we're doomed forever without him. It all boils down to this summer - a high pick and all the money in the world. It was all gonna boil down to this summer, one way or another.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/31/2019 4:03 pm : link
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Sources: Full players involved in Knicks/Mavericks deal:

Kristaps Porzingis, Tim Hardaway Jr., Courtney Lee, Trey Burke to Dallas.

Dennis Smith Jr., Wes Matthews, DeAndre Jordan and likely first-round draft pick compensation to New York.
RE: I've been high on KD is coming to NY...  
nygiants16 : 1/31/2019 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14282535 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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But if he doesn't, yikes. Watch us give a max to Walker & Middleton, ensuring we're competing for a 5th or 6th seed for a couple of years. Oy vey.


or kd told them open up 2 max slots and ill bring someonr with me
i said it in the other thread  
UConn4523 : 1/31/2019 4:03 pm : link
but are you guys mad at the compensation, or that he was traded at all? The haul sucks but he seems like a problematic player both in attitude but more importantly, health.
Not good for the Tank  
BIG FRED 1973 : 1/31/2019 4:03 pm : link
I think they make a move for Kemba in the summer .
RE: We all know now theyre going to win enough games  
Jay on the Island : 1/31/2019 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14282538 The_Boss said:
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To fuck them out of Zion and Morant. Why? Because its the Knicks. Theyd fuck up a wet dream.

No it's the Knicks, they will finish with the worst record but lose the lottery and pick 4th in a 3 player draft.
RE: The speed with which this trade occurred  
robbieballs2003 : 1/31/2019 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14282542 Jay on the Island said:
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has me convinced that the Knicks did not get max value for KP. If they were going to trade him he should have been in a deal for Anthony Davis.


Agree but it sounded like the only goal was get rid of Lee and Hardaway to free up cap space.
Even those saying he had a bad attitude and  
NoGainDayne : 1/31/2019 4:04 pm : link
he's a risky max whatever. This is still a horrible return. A 23 year old all star with sky high potential as a little more than a salary dump.

They have been trying to get rid of Dennis Smith.

I'm puzzled and flabbergasted.
Watch the new guy be injured  
idiotsavant : 1/31/2019 4:04 pm : link
Don't kill the messenger
Serious question.  
Beezer : 1/31/2019 4:05 pm : link
Why go get Walker after trading for Smith Jr?
Knicks go from talking to Boston last year  
ghost718 : 1/31/2019 4:05 pm : link
Maybe getting Jayson Tatum or Josh Jackson,depending on how you believed,to this pile of crumbs.

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Heisenberg : 1/31/2019 4:06 pm : link

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During his meeting with the Knicks, Kristaps Porzingis indicated he wouldnt re-sign with the Pelicans if dealt there, per sources. It doesnt matter with Dallas acquiring KP, but along with Lonzo Ball, thats two young players not thrilled about possibly playing in New Orleans.
Cant Judge this trade till the summer...  
Pete44 : 1/31/2019 4:07 pm : link
We can't judge this trade till the summer. If the Knicks get Durant and Kyrie or Durant and Klay, it is a good trade.

KP has a lot of talent, but has missed 140 games over 3 years.

That being said, this is a major risk and probably will not work out.
RE: RE: The speed with which this trade occurred  
Jay on the Island : 1/31/2019 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14282550 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14282542 Jay on the Island said:


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has me convinced that the Knicks did not get max value for KP. If they were going to trade him he should have been in a deal for Anthony Davis.



Agree but it sounded like the only goal was get rid of Lee and Hardaway to free up cap space.

Couldn't they have done so by giving up another player like Frank, Knox, or Robinson?
Thanks Mills.  
robbieballs2003 : 1/31/2019 4:07 pm : link
Fucking us twice with one deal. Amazing.
Sure  
DanMetroMan : 1/31/2019 4:07 pm : link
Durant changes things but we all know Kemba Walker will be the next Knicks star.. ugh.
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NoGainDayne : 1/31/2019 4:08 pm : link
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During his meeting with the Knicks, Kristaps Porzingis indicated he wouldnt re-sign with the Pelicans if dealt there, per sources. It doesnt matter with Dallas acquiring KP, but along with Lonzo Ball, thats two young players not thrilled about possibly playing in New Orleans.


Oh great it's like yeah, what's your solution to the player not being attractive because he might not sign some place. Dump him for a shitty return! Fantastic logic!
If you buy out Jordan and Matthews  
B in ALB : 1/31/2019 4:08 pm : link
It makes a big more sense because you're then virtually guaranteed to get the top pick. Then add two max contracts and you're in business.

So the key, to me, are those two guys.

If they're not bought out, that signals an absolutely incredible fuck up by the Three Stooges.
RE: Cant Judge this trade till the summer...  
Greg from LI : 1/31/2019 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14282556 Pete44 said:
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We can't judge this trade till the summer. If the Knicks get Durant and Kyrie or Durant and Klay, it is a good trade.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....yeah, that's happening.
If the Knicks get Anthony Davis  
Jay on the Island : 1/31/2019 4:08 pm : link
or Durant then nobody will complain much. This is the Knicks though so they will end up with the 4th or 5th pick and sign Kemba Walker to a max deal.
Lack of patience  
idiotsavant : 1/31/2019 4:08 pm : link
Classic new york.
We better have  
Carl in CT : 1/31/2019 4:08 pm : link
Verbals!
RE: RE: This is just step one  
rich in DC : 1/31/2019 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14282495 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14282488 rich in DC said:


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They can probably flip Jordan and Matthews before the deadline. Smith, I don't know what the plan would be with him.



Step one of *what*?! This seems a lot like the underwear gnomes in South Park.


Since Jordan is an expiring, and Capela is gone for most of the season, don't you think the Rockets will come calling with an offer of Knight plus filler and a couple 1st rounders? Granted, they aren't premium picks, but they have trade value too (see Boston).

Boston itself might like an inside presence who doesn't hurt their cap situation going forward- but would likely be wary of dealing with the Knicks who could use the cap space to steal Irving.

The Knicks could also use either player in a 3-way deal to give another team an expiring in exchange for picks and young players (and smaller expiring deals).
Smart trade for knicks  
dep026 : 1/31/2019 4:09 pm : link
Porzingis was always crying or bitching about something.... and is ALWAYS hurt. A 73 big man with lower limb injuries just dont magically get healthy over time.

If they turn and trade Jordan (hello Toronto) and get a pick somehow.. this will work out.

DSJ may not be your cup of tea... but he will be the man on that team which is good for his mentality.
RE: Thanks Mills.  
Jay on the Island : 1/31/2019 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14282559 robbieballs2003 said:
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Fucking us twice with one deal. Amazing.

Exactly right. Fuck this franchise.
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