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NFT: Knicks traded Porzingis to the Mavs

Strahan91 : 1/31/2019 3:42 pm
WOAH. Shedding Lee and THJ. Getting DSJ. No word on the rest
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I don't believe this is the 3 stooges Knicks...  
Chris684 : 1/31/2019 4:10 pm : link
The way the NBA works I think they have intel someone is coming this summer, most likely Durant, and he needed the room to recruit Kyrie, Thompson, etc.

I have a feeling we're looking at KD + one hand picked running mate of his + Zion/Barrett + Knox + Robinson
The ONLY silver lining here  
Dave in PA : 1/31/2019 4:10 pm : link
Is that KP might seriously be a long term injury risk. Otherwise, this is pretty disappointing. Can’t believe they couldn’t get more
I'm in a state of shock over this.  
bceagle05 : 1/31/2019 4:11 pm : link
I won't have any sort of logical reaction for a few days. Kristaps Porzingis is a Dallas Maverick. Wow.
RE: If the Knicks get Anthony Davis  
JayBinQueens : 1/31/2019 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14282565 Jay on the Island said:
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or Durant then nobody will complain much. This is the Knicks though so they will end up with the 4th or 5th pick and sign Kemba Walker to a max deal.


Lol - sadly you're probably right
RE: Giving KP a max contract was very risky  
djm : 1/31/2019 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14282529 Sean said:
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Giving anyone a max deal is risky. KP if healthy is already the best stretch rim protector in the nba. I don’t get this deal... I only pray the Knicks have something up their sleeve but man, this one is tough to take. Why not just let hardaway expire in two years and just keep building this thing organically. I’d rather win 30 games next year with no max signings and just keep at this. But who knows...

RE: I don't believe this is the 3 stooges Knicks...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/31/2019 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14282571 Chris684 said:
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The way the NBA works I think they have intel someone is coming this summer, most likely Durant, and he needed the room to recruit Kyrie, Thompson, etc.

I have a feeling we're looking at KD + one hand picked running mate of his + Zion/Barrett + Knox + Robinson


From your lips to God's ear.
Off  
DanMetroMan : 1/31/2019 4:12 pm : link
the record, KP told the Knicks flat out he would not be signing a deal after this season.
RE: If you buy out Jordan and Matthews  
Dave in PA : 1/31/2019 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14282562 B in ALB said:
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It makes a big more sense because you're then virtually guaranteed to get the top pick. Then add two max contracts and you're in business.

So the key, to me, are those two guys.

If they're not bought out, that signals an absolutely incredible fuck up by the Three Stooges.
All they have to do is be one of the 3 worst teams. Having the worst record does nothing for them as long as they don’t have the 4th worst record
Cap Space  
TyreeHelmet : 1/31/2019 4:12 pm : link
Just a crazy idea- why not get a commitment from Durant or other maxes and then attach whatever picks necessary to move Lee and Hardaway.

Carlisle is going to be an incredible offense around Luka and KP. These moves by Dallas is how you build a team.
RE: Off  
Pete44 : 1/31/2019 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14282579 DanMetroMan said:
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the record, KP told the Knicks flat out he would not be signing a deal after this season.



I heard the same
RE: Off  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/31/2019 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14282579 DanMetroMan said:
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the record, KP told the Knicks flat out he would not be signing a deal after this season.


F*ck off KP.
RE: Off  
bceagle05 : 1/31/2019 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14282579 DanMetroMan said:
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the record, KP told the Knicks flat out he would not be signing a deal after this season.

Any other tidbits there, Mr. Dan?
Listening to Alan Hahn on ESPN  
arniefez : 1/31/2019 4:14 pm : link
with Kay right now. Very interesting. If it's posted later take a listen.
Another bad day for the Knicks.  
The_Boss : 1/31/2019 4:14 pm : link
Par for the course.

Unfortunately I’ve come to grips a long time ago with the reality that I’m going to live my life on this planet without ever witnessing a Knick NBA championship.
bceagle05  
arniefez : 1/31/2019 4:14 pm : link
He told NO he wouldn't sign there so they couldn't trade him for AD.
RE: Off  
Furman : 1/31/2019 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14282579 DanMetroMan said:
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the record, KP told the Knicks flat out he would not be signing a deal after this season.


But couldn't the Knicks match any deal? He's a RFA in the off-season.
RE: RE: Off  
DanMetroMan : 1/31/2019 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14282585 bceagle05 said:
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In comment 14282579 DanMetroMan said:


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the record, KP told the Knicks flat out he would not be signing a deal after this season.


Any other tidbits there, Mr. Dan?


All I got for now. Text from someone who works at MSG (a friend) who doesn't work directly for the Knicks but has given me some tidbits before. He told them he would sign a QO and play out next season. They weren't willing to take that chance/call his bluff.
Shams saying KP will sign a qualifying offer with the Mavs.  
bceagle05 : 1/31/2019 4:15 pm : link
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RE: I HATE THIS FRANCHISE  
AcidTest : 1/31/2019 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14282444 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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WITH THE FIRE OF A THOUSAND SUNS.


Tell us how you really feel.
Super risky to match or give KP  
Doubledeuce22 : 1/31/2019 4:16 pm : link
a max deal IMO. Let's see what 1st round pick they are getting too. If it's this years 1st that's not a bad haul especially if they can attract Durant in the summer.
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DanMetroMan : 1/31/2019 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14282589 Furman said:
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In comment 14282579 DanMetroMan said:


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the record, KP told the Knicks flat out he would not be signing a deal after this season.



But couldn't the Knicks match any deal? He's a RFA in the off-season.


Planned on signing a QO, and then becoming a UFA. So no.
Thanks, Dan!  
bceagle05 : 1/31/2019 4:16 pm : link
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Fuck  
Jon in NYC : 1/31/2019 4:17 pm : link
KP.

This was a good deal given the circumstances. Gives us a legit shot this summer.

Also frees Dennis Smith, who I think can rejuvenate his career.
RE: Shams saying KP will sign a qualifying offer with the Mavs.  
jlukes : 1/31/2019 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14282591 bceagle05 said:
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What does that mean?
And the painted pony goes up and down.  
GiantsUA : 1/31/2019 4:17 pm : link
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ay caramba!

I'll delude myself for the next couple months  
bigbluehoya : 1/31/2019 4:17 pm : link
DSJ
Durant
Knox
Zion
Boogie

Mudiay
Trier
Robinson
May be able to turn Deandre Jordan into something before this  
Doubledeuce22 : 1/31/2019 4:17 pm : link
deadline is over, no? Move him to a contender for some assets.
Alan Hahn blaming the influence around KP.  
Ace718 : 1/31/2019 4:18 pm : link
His brother inflated his ego to a point where it would never work here in NY.
Listening to Hahn  
arniefez : 1/31/2019 4:18 pm : link
KP didn't want the heat that comes with NY and he and family didn't trust the Knicks and wanted to get away from them.

Makes sense they didn't rust the Knicks why would anyone and what we've seen from KP kind of backups what Hahn is saying about Porzingis being a sensitive guy maybe not a NY guy.

Hanh also saying this nothing to do with Kanter and that KP and Kanter do not have any relationship good or bad. The Kanter stuff was a non factor.
It means he'll be an unrestricted free agent in 2020.  
bceagle05 : 1/31/2019 4:18 pm : link
He won't be signing restricted free agent offer sheets this summer, which would lock him in for multiple years.
RE: Knicks can sign Harper and Machado now.  
AcidTest : 1/31/2019 4:19 pm : link
In comment 14282498 bceagle05 said:
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LOL.
RE: RE: Shams saying KP will sign a qualifying offer with the Mavs.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/31/2019 4:19 pm : link
In comment 14282598 jlukes said:
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What does that mean?


He wants to test free agency. Hes taking less money in the short term,playing out the year, and going to free agency.
KP's brother seems like  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/31/2019 4:20 pm : link
a tool.
I was never as high as Porzingis  
PaulBlakeTSU : 1/31/2019 4:20 pm : link
as many. He flashed "unicorn" ability, but his injury history and his height gave me concerns that he would ever be able to be a heavy-minute, full-season type of player for the long-term.

I was okay trying to sell high on him.

But for a salary dump? Oof.

Dennis Smith, Jr., can jump out of the gym. He's exciting. I don't think he's a winning player. He isn't a good enough FT shooter or 3-point shooter, and he isn't a good enough facilitator for how reckless he is with the ball.

RE: Thanks, Dan!  
DanMetroMan : 1/31/2019 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14282595 bceagle05 said:
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No problem. 100% no reason for me not to believe this person either. Rarely texts me about the Knicks, and has never given me incorrect information.
Remember  
nygiants16 : 1/31/2019 4:20 pm : link
the article before the season about irving and kd wanted to team up together..

mills is very close to kds manager...

Knicks pitch now is ok kd come to new york bring whoever you want with you
I would assume  
GMEN46 : 1/31/2019 4:21 pm : link
Frank, Mudiay are going to get traded bebfore the deadline as well. Vonleh has to go as well.
I don't see how  
Mike from SI : 1/31/2019 4:22 pm : link
I'm supposed to feel good about this.
RE: May be able to turn Deandre Jordan into something before this  
Ace718 : 1/31/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14282601 Doubledeuce22 said:
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deadline is over, no? Move him to a contender for some assets.


He's not getting you assets. Probably a buy out.
PaulBlakeTSU  
arniefez : 1/31/2019 4:22 pm : link
If it's true and there's no reason to believe it's not. That KP and family told the Knicks they were playing out to UFA. The Knicks did what they had to and were smart to do it quickly. The longer they waited the less the return would have been because KP was limiting the teams he'd sign long term with.
Dan, so is he risking the 142.5 mil?  
robbieballs2003 : 1/31/2019 4:23 pm : link
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RE: Remember  
Greg from LI : 1/31/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14282613 nygiants16 said:
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the article before the season about irving and kd wanted to team up together..

mills is very close to kds manager...

Knicks pitch now is ok kd come to new york bring whoever you want with you


And KD will laugh at them and sign with someone else.
Lance Thomas  
TommyWiseau : 1/31/2019 4:24 pm : link
Needs to be in this fucking deal for christ sakes
have to say  
bigbluehoya : 1/31/2019 4:24 pm : link
as much of a joke as I know the Knicks are, I will be rooting hard AF against KP for the rest of his career.
RE: Lance Thomas  
Enzo : 1/31/2019 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14282621 TommyWiseau said:
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Needs to be in this fucking deal for christ sakes

his deal basically expires after this season. Only a small portion of his money is guaranteed for next season.
RE: Dan, so is he risking the 142.5 mil?  
DanMetroMan : 1/31/2019 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14282619 robbieballs2003 said:
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That was his claim. He's yet to do it right? He's rejected nothing other than verbally committing long term to the Knicks. Per Hahn he wanted out of NY.
RE: RE: Remember  
The_Boss : 1/31/2019 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14282620 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14282613 nygiants16 said:


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the article before the season about irving and kd wanted to team up together..

mills is very close to kds manager...

Knicks pitch now is ok kd come to new york bring whoever you want with you



And KD will laugh at them and sign with someone else.


Of course.
I think since LeBron went to Miami  
Chris684 : 1/31/2019 4:26 pm : link
the NBA has gotten very loose within its own inner circles about telegraphing moves and knowing what's coming next.

When I say everyone I don't mean fans, but executives, agents and people within the league. I think everyone knew LeBron was going back to Cleveland, LeBron was then going to LA, Durant was going to GS, Davis is going to the Lakers and Durant is coming here.
FYI from ESPN:  
manh george : 1/31/2019 4:27 pm : link

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The Mavs are working to acquire a first-round pick to include in the deal, sources told ESPN's Tim MacMahon.
RE: Lance Thomas  
rich in DC : 1/31/2019 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14282621 TommyWiseau said:
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Needs to be in this fucking deal for christ sakes


No he doesn't.

I don't know how many times it has been posted on this site (probably in the thousands by now), but his deal for next year is only guaranteed for about $2M. Peanuts.

Yet some people STILL don't get it.
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