someone said, KP has missed 140 games in three years, and has a history of lower body injuries. But this is still a big risk. Dolan is counting on two great players signing this summer on max contracts. But as many others have also said, that is a quite risky plan given how poor the Knicks have been for decades. Dolan is also counting on at least a top three pick.
That was his claim. He's yet to do it right? He's rejected nothing other than verbally committing long term to the Knicks. Per Hahn he wanted out of NY.
Yeah, that is all I was saying yesterday. Odds are he will sign long term but it wasn't a guarantee. It'll be interesting to ses if ue follows through.
and it goes back a ways. News travels fast around the league. They were never going to get fair value for him. They did the best they could. It was not a salary dump, but they took advantage of the situation to clear two big salary issues. At least they have the opportunity to sign two stars AND they still have Knox and theoretically, their PG in Smith. Frankly, they’ve made far worse trades
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is finally going in the right direction. Clear out the dead weight. Get rid of the players that do not want to be here. Bring in people who want to be here, draft better and 2 years have this thing turned around.
Sounds like KP will do whatever it takes to get to UFA. Thank god Fizdale spent that week in Latvia....
Let’s dream big here. Knicks get a top 3 pick. Trade the pick, Knox, Smith and Frank for Anthony Davis. Can they knicks still squeeze two maxes are close to it and create their own big 3?
is finally going in the right direction. Clear out the dead weight. Get rid of the players that do not want to be here. Bring in people who want to be here, draft better and 2 years have this thing turned around.
is finally going in the right direction. Clear out the dead weight. Get rid of the players that do not want to be here. Bring in people who want to be here, draft better and 2 years have this thing turned around.
This has seemed to be the plan for the past 15 years. The fish stinks from the head. While Little Jimmy is there, what makes you think anything will be different than the plan to go after LeBron?
Will the Knicks be able to flip Jordan for a pick or does he have no value due to his cap number?
The guy is averaging 11 and 13. Why wouldn't they be able to sell him for something at least? He's worth giving up some assets for even if it's a rental. Try and get a good role player for him.
That's not going to happen. If they sign Kemba, KD ain't coming, and if they sign KD first, they're going to do a helluva lot better with the other contract than Kemba Walker.
Don't even know what NBA team I'd have the stomach to root for. But holy fucking hell.
Two years ago, i gave up on my first NY franchise. This wasn't that hard. Since I live in South Jersey, I am a fan of the Sixers. I am still a fan of the three other sports for NY teams.
But that’s a fantastic trade for the Knicks. Getting expiring contracts and Dennis Smith? That has to be attractive to someone like Durant. They now can sell him on young guys like Smith and Knox. And cap space to add another star
That's not going to happen. If they sign Kemba, KD ain't coming, and if they sign KD first, they're going to do a helluva lot better with the other contract than Kemba Walker.
Forget Kemba then. Kyrie. If they got Kyrie and Durant with that space. I think you have to appreciate this deal. So, how good this deal really is still contingent...
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Prefer all of Kyrie/Klay/Boogie. Hell, I think I'd even like a Mirotic/Vucevic more.
On a team with Durant + a top 3 pick, I think I'd even like Bledsoe more than Kemba. (No, I would not give Bledsoe a max deal...I'm just saying fit-wise)
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The only way this trade makes any sense is if the free agents that the Knicks sign next year are better than Porzingis
If they get Durant and Leonard, or Kyrie etc, then this is a great trade
It is hard to evaluate without knowing what the Knicks will do moving forward
If the Knicks have Durant, Leonard, Zion ( or another top pick) that is a great start
Perhaps they can get a third top player to join them like the Heat did
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If they got Kyrie and Durant with that space. I think you have to appreciate this deal. So, how good this deal really is still contingent...
What have the Knicks ever done that gives you the slightest bit of confidence that they could pull that off?
Faith and possibility are two different things bro. I get the pessimism, but it's too early to really judge. This summer is the real test of this FO cohort.
It signals that the drooling idiots who run the Knicks think they're going to sign Durant and someone else, but if the Three Stooges sign Durant I'll eat my entire wardrobe.
It's gone to shit. Here is a video of of Tracy McGrady saying that the Knicks have to trade two of the players acquired, referring to Matthews and Jordan, in order to sign two max contracts this offseason. They have expiring deals why would the Knicks have to trade them to spend this offseason? Link - ( New Window )
Or KP knee is shot. Then as a fan who has watched 30 full and 10 partials this year (yes my favorite team in all sports) really is going to have a hard time with this one. We will be the laughing stock not just of the league but all sports. Now start moving these expiring contracts to playoff teams. Better not just sit on their hands. This one hurts fellas.
This is Charlie brown kicking a football all over again Â
We'll know if we just took a short cut to contention, or if we're screwed forever. I'm sure most of us are leaning toward the latter, but I'm willing to see how the draft and free agency unfolds.
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That was his claim. He's yet to do it right? He's rejected nothing other than verbally committing long term to the Knicks. Per Hahn he wanted out of NY.
Yeah, that is all I was saying yesterday. Odds are he will sign long term but it wasn't a guarantee. It'll be interesting to ses if ue follows through.
Strong reason why I doubt it too.
Let’s dream big here. Knicks get a top 3 pick. Trade the pick, Knox, Smith and Frank for Anthony Davis. Can they knicks still squeeze two maxes are close to it and create their own big 3?
Lol
NYC or DC. Don’t count out his home ties to the District.
This has seemed to be the plan for the past 15 years. The fish stinks from the head. While Little Jimmy is there, what makes you think anything will be different than the plan to go after LeBron?
What's the market for Jordan? Nobody wants no-offense bugs.
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Will the Knicks be able to flip Jordan for a pick or does he have no value due to his cap number?
What's the market for Jordan? Nobody wants no-offense bugs.
Then package Kanter and Jordan to get a complete big.
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Durant will come to NY. No rhyme or reason. Just a gut feeling.
NYC or DC. Don’t count out his home ties to the District.
no cap space for Wizards to sign him.
The guy is averaging 11 and 13. Why wouldn't they be able to sell him for something at least? He's worth giving up some assets for even if it's a rental. Try and get a good role player for him.
I hope the Knicks have a handshake agreement somewhere and a plan but likely not.
That's not going to happen. If they sign Kemba, KD ain't coming, and if they sign KD first, they're going to do a helluva lot better with the other contract than Kemba Walker.
Two years ago, i gave up on my first NY franchise. This wasn't that hard. Since I live in South Jersey, I am a fan of the Sixers. I am still a fan of the three other sports for NY teams.
That’s typical Knicks right there. If KD refuses a meeting this summer in the Hamptons (again), you know where this is heading.
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was it a good move?
That's not going to happen. If they sign Kemba, KD ain't coming, and if they sign KD first, they're going to do a helluva lot better with the other contract than Kemba Walker.
Forget Kemba then. Kyrie. If they got Kyrie and Durant with that space. I think you have to appreciate this deal. So, how good this deal really is still contingent...
I wouldn't give Kemba a max.
Prefer all of Kyrie/Klay/Boogie. Hell, I think I'd even like a Mirotic/Vucevic more.
On a team with Durant + a top 3 pick, I think I'd even like Bledsoe more than Kemba. (No, I would not give Bledsoe a max deal...I'm just saying fit-wise)
What have the Knicks ever done that gives you the slightest bit of confidence that they could pull that off?
If they get Durant and Leonard, or Kyrie etc, then this is a great trade
It is hard to evaluate without knowing what the Knicks will do moving forward
If the Knicks have Durant, Leonard, Zion ( or another top pick) that is a great start
Perhaps they can get a third top player to join them like the Heat did
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If they got Kyrie and Durant with that space. I think you have to appreciate this deal. So, how good this deal really is still contingent...
What have the Knicks ever done that gives you the slightest bit of confidence that they could pull that off?
Faith and possibility are two different things bro. I get the pessimism, but it's too early to really judge. This summer is the real test of this FO cohort.
I wonder if the deal is conditional on this happening. If so, it changes the equation somewhat in my mind. Another #1 in this draft would be nice.
Partially - he wanted to trade KP for Josh Jackson. This monstrosity of a trade might actually benefit us more than Phil's proposal.
Given that Kay is a fucking moron, it's not worth much
Watch this shithole franchise lose a draft pick for tampering, not get him, and then see him go over the bridge to Brooklyn.
We could find any number of teams this summer to take on Hardaway and Lee with KP. Why not be sure we can get the players first? Ugh.
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Probably need to wait for the summer for that. But that could be an additional move to two max signings...
We could find any number of teams this summer to take on Hardaway and Lee with KP. Why not be sure we can get the players first? Ugh.
you wouldnt be able to do it this summer