NFT: Moana is so much better than Frozen

For a big budget animated movie it’s just lousy

(at the time she was 8) liked Frozen better, but also like Moana (10 or 11 when it came out)

I'm guessing that's maybe more their target audience than old dudes.

Bud Light is so much better than Miller Lite.

More popular

I was very surprised by Moana.

I am the guy who pays to rent this stuff. Not sure if that means anything really but just pointing out how much better Moana was.

And the Rock as Maui
I have a 5 year old redhead who loves Anna and the songs are contagious

I took the kids to Disney on ice and people just go nuts for frozen.

You've got the whole contrast between hope and fear. It speaks to the human soul on many levels.

In comment 14284771 bhill410 said:

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I am the guy who pays to rent this stuff. Not sure if that means anything really but just pointing out how much better Moana was.

of course, and you're probably right and I never saw either, but I'm just going by what my daughter liked.

When she started playing hockey we had a 45 minute ride three days a week (at least) to the rink for practice and she would watch Frozen every time on her ipod touch. she must have watched it 500 times. She was a little older when Moana came out, but not even close to the same interest.

just sharing better to a grown man, maybe isn't better to their target, for whatever reason, story, music, character identification, whatever.

just a dumb story with forgettable characters. Olaf stunk. Moana is infinitely better, cooler sorry and characters and top notch animation.

on an iPod touch.

In comment 14284797 Ron from Ninerland said:

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on an iPod touch.

well it was watched on an ipod touch. a lot. My daughter saw it in the theater too, at least a couple times.

not sure why people have an issue separating the cinematic requirements of a 8 year old girl vs a grown man.

I'm no hollywood expert, but I don't think frozen achieved the commercial success it achieved because of people like bhill's opinion and I don't mean this to be a dick. it achieved the success it did because 8 year old girls loved it. more than Moana.

In comment 14284780 Les in TO said:

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And the Rock as Maui I have a 5 year old redhead who loves Anna and the songs are contagious I took the kids to Disney on ice and people just go nuts for frozen.

I went to Disney on Ice too. It was cool. Moana was really cool as was The Toy Story. Frozen sucked imo. The best by far was Coco.

Tangled was the best in show.

Moana wasnt. I have a 6 yo daughter. This is the only answer.

In comment 14284760 Bill in UT said:

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Bud Light is so much better than Miller Lite.

This

That I get 6 year old girls loving a princess movie. But Moana was best picture worthy and would appeal to both girls and boys, why the hell did frozen double it in the box office? Moana’s soundtrack - to any impartial person, is 1000x better (Lin manual did score), animation was better, story was better, and it had the rock which should matter people!

Though I didn’t mind Frozen. I’ve always been indifferent to The Rock, but he made Moana. He was hilarious and he can actually sing.

They love both of these movies. I wouldn't argue with anyone that says that Moana is better than Frozen, but in terms of box office and marketing the fact that Frozen came out first factors in significantly. Prior to it's release there just wasn't too many big screen examples of a strong female protagonist in a kid friendly movie. If Moana came out first it could have very well been just as successful and popular.

But that aside, I would say that Frozen has songs that are catchier and more singable. Children love the winter and snow, so those themes in the movie are very attractive. And also, Elsa is the only Disney princess with super powers - so there's a coolness factor.

We haven't made it through Frozen yet. I was disappointed they got rid of the Norwegian Mythology ride at Epcot and replaced it with frozen.

If your kids haven't seen it yet, get Wreck-it Ralph. It is great if you grew up when arcade games were big.

My 3 year old can sing it verbatim.

In comment 14284807 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 14284780 Les in TO said: Quote: And the Rock as Maui I have a 5 year old redhead who loves Anna and the songs are contagious I took the kids to Disney on ice and people just go nuts for frozen. I went to Disney on Ice too. It was cool. Moana was really cool as was The Toy Story. Frozen sucked imo. The best by far was Coco.

we had a slightly different set list. Mulan and Beauty and the beast instead of coco and moana. Most entertaining part of the night was watching a man snap at his partner who was about to buy a $20 snow cone in an Olaf cup

I have a 29 yr old coworker who said Frozen was great and was more adult. I have a toddler and caught it twice. I think he was on crack. Besides being unenjoyable for an adult imo, I can't believe even little girls liked the movie that much. Olaf was terribly annoying and the story was very meh. Moana on the other hand was great throughout. I hated pseudo musicals even as a little kid, but I enjoyed the Moana songs along with the story.
Since we're on the topic of animated movies, I hope How to Train Your Dragon 3 is good. My little guy loves toothless.

Disney classics such as Frozen have broadway quality music. Thats part of what makes them classics. In addition, Frozen had a very memorable character in Elsa, part Disney princess, part X-man. When I was growing up in the 60's, Mary Poppins was the great social phenomenon that Frozen is today. The movie was in the theaters for years it seemed and the music was constantly on the radio and other mediums of the time. Every kid could sing and pronounce supercallafragalisticexpiasllodocous, just as every kid today ( along with a lot of adults ) can sing "Let it go" I'm not trying to knock Moanna, but there wasn't nearly as much music. I'm also not trying to be a smart ass when I say that Frozen wasn't meant to be seen on an iPod touch. IMHO Frozen, along with Tangled has the best 3D animation I've every seen and can really be appreciated in a good theatre.


P.S. Since its Super Bowl day, I've added a link that combines Frozen with Football
"For the first time in forever" Cleveland Browns edition. - ( New Window )

Is really good. I have. Boy toddler and we are going through Disney/Pixar movies. My preference for watching is Moana, Tangled, Frozen. I think Tangled crushes Frozen

Seriously! My toddlers are grand-kids rather than my kids, but BBI is always a source of relevant information. I knew there was a Moana-Frozen debate out there, and after reading this thread I can take either side.

The message of family value is tremendous.

Was overall better than Moana? I get the really popular song but Moana’s main tune had just as much commercial success (I think at least) and the rest of the songs were catchier to me at least. Lin Manual also has more broadway chops than whoever wrote frozens stuff. And I can make that claim despite loathing Broadway because this is the internet and uninformed opinions reign.

In comment 14284943 Reeses Pieces said:

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The message of family value is tremendous.

Agreed. Coco is fantastic and it’s the best animation I’ve seen to date. The message and how they tell the story through music is exceptional. I’m also a sucker for anything involving stuff like dia de muertos - the world they created there was spectacular.

Agree with a poster above regarding Tangled, it’s the best of the modern princess movies.

just saying... Rock even makes a joke about it at one point.

It's too bad so many 40 year old males here didn't care for Frozen though... Disney totally missed on that demographic.

In comment 14284943 Reeses Pieces said:

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The message of family value is tremendous.

Coco: Best animated film ever.

Couple reasons why Frozen is perceived to be better. Can’t get in to all of them because it’s too controversial. The songs give the movie life. Kids don’t analyze the arc of the story. A kid hears ‘Let it Go’ and there is a visceral reaction: OMG. I love that movie!!

Coco was insane. The story was amazing and the animation, primarily the use of color, was jaw dropping. I wish there was more singing in Coco.

While the Frozen songs are amazing, the script is sub par for Disney, IMO. Where Frozen shines after the songs is in three areas:

1) Sister interaction. I think that struck a chord in young girls, and they really related to Anna/Elsa's issues with each other.

2) Sub-Characters. Olaf/Sven/Trolls beat anything in Moana (Pua the pig and Heihei the chicken) for kids.

3) The story, while a bit of a mess, is much easier for kids to understand. Moana delves into Polynesian culture/myth, something kids in Europe/North America are really unfamiliar with.

For adults, I think Moana is a superior film. Great music, amazing story, great family interaction (the grandmother is amazing), and great exposure to Polynesian culture/myths. Oh, and the Rock!

and Moana songs are playing and it’s crazy how well they nailed the Polynesian culture. It’s also cool how they made a local kid from Hawaii the star of the movie. My only real critique of Moana is they didn’t use Pua enough, it that’s a very minor complaint.

Moana was better, had better storyline and songs in my opinion.

Although nothing even remotely came close to becoming to the pop culture force that Let it Go became.

As the popularity of that song picked up, so did the box office totals of that movie. That song alone drove the $$$ of that film.

Right at the peak of that song, wife and I took our three young kids to the Disney store. Normal affair usually, nothing out of the norm. Then the song came on....the whole store stopped and every kid at the top of their lungs screaming sang along to it.

So while the Rock was great in Moana, I enjoyed the songs and story much better than Frozen. I can't deny the force that Let it Go was on kids pop culture at the time.

for Tamatoa alone. He is the best.

My niece has probably watched Moana 1,000 times. At least 10 around me. I enjoy it every time.

I’ll sheepishly admit that my kids and I have been known to have some prettt epic singalongs during weekend breakfast. ‘For the First Time In Forever’ is a personal favorite.

Frozen doubled the take of Moana- $1.2 billion and that does not count the merchandising where it walloped just about everything else.

The story is first class. The message is first class. The music is first class.

I love it, have found it inspirational and have watched it too many times to mention.

Why? Because Moana is way better and way more appealing to boys as well as girls

In comment 14285375 bhill410 said:

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Why? Because Moana is way better and way more appealing to boys as well as girls

You're still stuck where you started.

Why do you say it was more appealing to girls? Let alone way more appealing.

I mentioned my own anecdotal experience, but it wasn't just my own kid(s).

Halloween for two years after it was released half the girls or more from that age were dressed as characters from Frozen.

Maybe the poster who said because it was released first has a point, but Frozen was FAR more popular with young girls than Moana.

And I'm not sure it's really close. Frozen was a mania or a craze. It was a phenomenon I equate to what I saw with Beatlemania (though that was before my time).

I took my kids to Disney World around Frozen time and they had a "Frozen Sing-along" show I got roped into going to and it was 1000 people singing every word to the songs from Frozen. Longest wait in the park, longer than any of the rides the f-ing Frozen Sing-Along.

I think what you're doing is trying to put the lens of an adult male on a movie meant 100% for young girls. Some animated movies are designed to transcend age, like the Night at the Smithsonian movies and perhaps even Moana, but IMO not Frozen. You're saying things like the story was better, songs better, etc. maybe true, but not to the 6 - 10 year old girls the movie was being marketed.

No clue how you can say Moana is more appealing to girls based on being an adult male and looking at the box office results. Who do you think went to see it so much?

and to be clear I've never seen either movie, though I have heard Frozen a million (slight exaggeration, slight) times.

“What’ya mean you want ketchup on your burger? Ghost pepper sauce is WAAAY better! Come on - pour it on!”