But I always come at games from a defensive point of view, so my viewpoint is probably different than most. Heck, my favorite Giants game of all time ended 15-13; not exactly a game filled with offensive explosiveness. That seems to be what everyone wants now; anything short of a 20 something/20 something game is considered to be boring.
Time. Have obviously warmed to it now. But would love to hear an argument of how Darnold, Allen and Rosen are definitely better than Goff after that abysmal game
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Bears 46 - NE 10 in 1985
Pitts 16 - Vikings 6 in 1975
Miami 24 - Vikings 7 in 1974
Oak 32 - Vikings 14 in 1977
Dallas 24- Miami 3 in 1972
SF 55 - Den 10 in 199
holding on Hamilton on the INT TD return... imagine if there was social media back then.
Another stupid one was, oh, what's his face, the big DT from the Patriots, who got pancaked, which negated a big run by Big Brandon Jacobs. He was later caught on tape admitting it was a bad call to the refs.
I hear some people call it a "Defensive Battle". What I think I saw was 2 teams that played like they didn't belong there - Very uninspired.
Seems like it could have been a game played back in early October .... where the mindset toward the games don't seem as important (yes I know they are ALL important).
Bears 46 - NE 10 in 1985
Pitts 16 - Vikings 6 in 1975
Miami 24 - Vikings 7 in 1974
Oak 32 - Vikings 14 in 1977
Dallas 24- Miami 3 in 1972
SF 55 - Den 10 in 199
You only have to go back to the Seattle Denver game a few years back to find a more boring game. This game was much better than watching a blowout. From the late 80's to the early 90's the games were over so early they were hard to watch, the Giants Bills game being a major exception.
as I thought the rest (the commercials, the halftime show) were terrible. No really cool commercials (aside from the one with all the ex and current NFL players), and the halftime show was pretty bad to me (maybe some enjoyed that, I sure didn't).
Bears 46 - NE 10 in 1985
Pitts 16 - Vikings 6 in 1975
Miami 24 - Vikings 7 in 1974
Oak 32 - Vikings 14 in 1977
Dallas 24- Miami 3 in 1972
SF 55 - Den 10 in 199
Niners vs Chargers
Bucs vs Raiders - Gruden knew all the plays
Bears 46 - NE 10 in 1985
Pitts 16 - Vikings 6 in 1975
Miami 24 - Vikings 7 in 1974
Oak 32 - Vikings 14 in 1977
Dallas 24- Miami 3 in 1972
SF 55 - Den 10 in 199
Plenty to add to that:
49ers 49 - Chargers 26 - not as close as the score
Redskins 42 - Broncos 10
Bucs 48 - Raiders 20
Ravens 34 - NFC opponents 7
Cowboys 52 - Bills 17
Cowbosy 30 - Bills 13
Colts 16 - Cowboys 13 - sounds great. Close game decided on= last second FG but both teams were dreadful.Neither deserved to win. Famous SI cover calling it "The Blooper Bowl".
Collins wasn't good in that game, but his OL couldn't handle the Ravens up front at all... and it was the old guys (Lomas Brown and Glenn Parker) who struggled the most.
Collins wasn't good in that game, but his OL couldn't handle the Ravens up front at all... and it was the old guys (Lomas Brown and Glenn Parker) who struggled the most.
Collins was scared shitless...Eli never had that same look in his eyes the last few years, even with a putrid OL.
total snooze fest and to me the Rams never had a chance even when it was 3-3.
I actually thought they had momentum at 3-3 and for a second it looked like they had tied it at 10-10. Pats did not seem in control until their last drive when they converted a couple of first downs but prior to that I could see them losing. Maybe says more about them than the Rams but still there was some suspense for me until the last 3 minutes or so.
On a different subject, what stood out to me is the utter lack of a vertical game in the Pats' offense. Amazing team when you consider that fact. They are limited in what they can do, but it doesn't seem to matter.
this wasn't a great defense like Bears or Ravens, but a great defensive plan. or at the least, a very good one.
I won't argue with you too much on this because it is certainly possible that the Pats' defense was so fundamentally sound that the Rams looked inept.
But I just didn't see a lot of "ooh" and "ahh" plays by the defense. I did see fundamentally sound run defense. I'd be curious to see what the longest running play was because it felt like the Rams never broke a run more than 5 yards (other than the one that called back due to holding).
That's why I though the run defense was the MVP.
And I hear you about the pass rush, but I thought it was on and off. I thought it was more about Goff being overwhelmed by the game. I have no idea what the Rams were trying to do.
On a sidenote, I felt that the Pats didn't call a good game offensively. They ran the ball well on the first drive, went away from it for much of the game, and when they went back to it, it worked like a charm again. Too much Brady in this game and it almost cost them.
I predict Belichick will say this game was the hardest coached Super Bowl he's been a part of, and that both he and Mcvay respected eachother so much it made them conservative.
The defenses weren’t the reason the QBs were throwing shit passes. Â
Seemed like the balls were dunked in oil. Even Brady had trouble putting balls cleanly on short crosses. Goff couldn’t handle the big stage on top of slicks footballs.
The Patriots
The Rams
Robert Kraft
Roger Goodell
Atlanta
The Announcers
Tony Romo (he deserves his own mention)
The Halftime Show or whatever that disgrace of nature was
The "Halftime Show"'s sound system
The Commercials
Tracy trying to interview Brady after the game
Everything else
The Patriots
The Rams
Robert Kraft
Roger Goodell
Atlanta
The Announcers
Tony Romo (he deserves his own mention)
The Halftime Show or whatever that disgrace of nature was
The "Halftime Show"'s sound system
The Commercials
Tracy trying to interview Brady after the game
Everything else
LOL... I don't even bother comment on halftime shows anymore. I'm too old.
but easily the most boring I can remember watching. It was a certainty that Goff was not going to beat the Patriots. We could all see that after the first drive. He just seemed totally out of his depth.
Unfortunately our very own Giants in SB35 was WAY worse than this game which was tight through most of 4 quarters. We just got our asses kicked pretty much from the start.
Think about the types of games you can have. A shootout involves two offenses playing great. Yes, you can also have really bad defense. But a bad offense isn't going to take enough advantage of a bad defense to make it a shootout.
A blowout, at least, involves one offense playing well.
A defensive domination involved at least one defense, or both, really standing out to stifle the opposing offense. You can point to a few select players on defensive who really had a great game. I don't have that tonight. Sure, Aaron Donald was able to make Brady a little uncomfortable back there, but the Rams still only managed one sack. Sure, Gilmore had a few nice pass deflections, and had the interception at the end, but that was more the QB putting up a duck.
Finally, the MVP. Edelman had a nice game. 10 catches, 141 yards. But on the Patriots' two scoring drives, Edelman had 3 catches for 41. Most of his performance was wasted.
The true MVP was Jared Goff tonight. Because is the Rams had a QB who at least played average, then the Rams are holding up the Lombardi trophy.
A. Because we lost to Trent Dilfer.
B. Because we lost to that arrogant ass Brian Billick.
C. Because we lost to that murdering thug Rat Lewis
D. Because that turncoat owner owner, Art Modell, got a SB
E. Because we lost to that murdering thug Rat Lewis
game over the 90s NFC blowouts and it's not even close.
People make sarcastic comments whenever there's a 38-34 high profile game about how the NFL has changed and no one plays defense. These wern't exactly shitty offenses yesterday who exchanged futility. I like a defensive battle where any score could be game changing.
If Cooks hangs onto that perfectly thrown ball and the game goes 10-10 with 4 minutes to go it rises up the rankings alot.
If you watch that play carefully, Gilmore, who is trailing, makes a great play by subtlety grabbing Cook’s left forearm. I think that did enough to spoil the catch...
The Patriots
The Rams
Robert Kraft
Roger Goodell
Atlanta
The Announcers
Tony Romo (he deserves his own mention)
The Halftime Show or whatever that disgrace of nature was
The "Halftime Show"'s sound system
The Commercials
Tracy trying to interview Brady after the game
Everything else
LOL... I don't even bother comment on halftime shows anymore. I'm too old.
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Don't forget photographers crowding the middle of the
field after the game, like a bunch of scavengers.
That poor Tracy Woodson almost got swallowed up,
people need to slow their roll a bit...plenty of time!
Let's keep this one for future "chess match is over, it's a watered down scoring league" threads.
Exactly. I don't know what people want.
What people want is a good combo of both. 51-45 where no one can make a stop is garbage, and 3-3 in the 4th is pretty much the same. Something like the NFC championship where you have good strategy, scoring, but key defensive stops as well.
At one point in the game, I thought it was going to be a great one. Â
For me, it was that ramping up of expectations of a classic, defense low scoring, then maybe things would break out. But the second half was a complete dud.
This takes nothing away from the Pats who clamped it down and won the game.
most boring, I might go with Dolphins-Vikings. Dolphins just handed the ball off and rammed it down their throat from the first play. Griese attempted 8 passes the whole game.
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#2. Jared Goff
#3. I don't give a shit...
#2. Jared Goff
#3. I don't give a shit...
Big Ben 05?
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#1. Kerry Collins
#2. Jared Goff
#3. I don't give a shit...
Big Ben 05?
Actually, that might be #1...
He ain’t no Eli
Bears 46 - NE 10 in 1985
Pitts 16 - Vikings 6 in 1975
Miami 24 - Vikings 7 in 1974
Oak 32 - Vikings 14 in 1977
Dallas 24- Miami 3 in 1972
SF 55 - Den 10 in 199
Another stupid one was, oh, what's his face, the big DT from the Patriots, who got pancaked, which negated a big run by Big Brandon Jacobs. He was later caught on tape admitting it was a bad call to the refs.
Seems like it could have been a game played back in early October .... where the mindset toward the games don't seem as important (yes I know they are ALL important).
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Bears 46 - NE 10 in 1985
Pitts 16 - Vikings 6 in 1975
Miami 24 - Vikings 7 in 1974
Oak 32 - Vikings 14 in 1977
Dallas 24- Miami 3 in 1972
SF 55 - Den 10 in 199
You only have to go back to the Seattle Denver game a few years back to find a more boring game. This game was much better than watching a blowout. From the late 80's to the early 90's the games were over so early they were hard to watch, the Giants Bills game being a major exception.
But this game was boring as (blank).
Exactly. I don't know what people want.
Bears 46 - NE 10 in 1985
Pitts 16 - Vikings 6 in 1975
Miami 24 - Vikings 7 in 1974
Oak 32 - Vikings 14 in 1977
Dallas 24- Miami 3 in 1972
SF 55 - Den 10 in 199
Niners vs Chargers
Bucs vs Raiders - Gruden knew all the plays
Bears 46 - NE 10 in 1985
Pitts 16 - Vikings 6 in 1975
Miami 24 - Vikings 7 in 1974
Oak 32 - Vikings 14 in 1977
Dallas 24- Miami 3 in 1972
SF 55 - Den 10 in 199
Plenty to add to that:
49ers 49 - Chargers 26 - not as close as the score
Redskins 42 - Broncos 10
Bucs 48 - Raiders 20
Ravens 34 - NFC opponents 7
Cowboys 52 - Bills 17
Cowbosy 30 - Bills 13
Colts 16 - Cowboys 13 - sounds great. Close game decided on= last second FG but both teams were dreadful.Neither deserved to win. Famous SI cover calling it "The Blooper Bowl".
This one wasn't even botton 10 IMO.
#2. Jared Goff
#3. I don't give a shit...
1 Tony Eason. Dude didn’t make it past 6 passing attempts.
Collins was scared shitless...Eli never had that same look in his eyes the last few years, even with a putrid OL.
The real SB was Chiefs-Rams on Monday Night Football.
I actually thought they had momentum at 3-3 and for a second it looked like they had tied it at 10-10. Pats did not seem in control until their last drive when they converted a couple of first downs but prior to that I could see them losing. Maybe says more about them than the Rams but still there was some suspense for me until the last 3 minutes or so.
that made it a boring game.
I thought the Pats' run defense was outstanding but I didn't think it was a particularly sharp defensive game by either team.
The Rams' offense laid a major egg. And Tom Brady was off much of the night except that one great throw down to the goal line.
My MVP's were:
(1) the Pats' run defense.
(2) Pats' punter
(3) Edelman
At times. But there were plenty of times where Goff had time. I was really unimpressed with him and Gurley. Gurley was terrible the last two games.
I didn't feel like I was watching the '85 Bears or '00 Ravens. It felt more like the game was too big for the Rams.
Rams biggest issue was they had no plan or the wrong plan for Edelman.
Bellichek is man among boys. Coughlin seemed to have cracked his code though
I won't argue with you too much on this because it is certainly possible that the Pats' defense was so fundamentally sound that the Rams looked inept.
But I just didn't see a lot of "ooh" and "ahh" plays by the defense. I did see fundamentally sound run defense. I'd be curious to see what the longest running play was because it felt like the Rams never broke a run more than 5 yards (other than the one that called back due to holding).
That's why I though the run defense was the MVP.
And I hear you about the pass rush, but I thought it was on and off. I thought it was more about Goff being overwhelmed by the game. I have no idea what the Rams were trying to do.
I will have to rewatch it a couple of times.
Patriots did run the ball well early and at the end of the game when it counter, but that might have been due to Rams DL being gassed.
The Rams
Robert Kraft
Roger Goodell
Atlanta
The Announcers
Tony Romo (he deserves his own mention)
The Halftime Show or whatever that disgrace of nature was
The "Halftime Show"'s sound system
The Commercials
Tracy trying to interview Brady after the game
Everything else
The Rams
Robert Kraft
Roger Goodell
Atlanta
The Announcers
Tony Romo (he deserves his own mention)
The Halftime Show or whatever that disgrace of nature was
The "Halftime Show"'s sound system
The Commercials
Tracy trying to interview Brady after the game
Everything else
LOL... I don't even bother comment on halftime shows anymore. I'm too old.
He got injured vs KC week 11. Not the same since..
Yes, all the QB overthrows - and underthrows- was exhilarating to watch
Even worse was my ex girlfriend was obsessed with them. Their music just flat out fucking sucks.
I hated them long before this SB performance.
This game felt like week 5 game in 1997.
A blowout, at least, involves one offense playing well.
A defensive domination involved at least one defense, or both, really standing out to stifle the opposing offense. You can point to a few select players on defensive who really had a great game. I don't have that tonight. Sure, Aaron Donald was able to make Brady a little uncomfortable back there, but the Rams still only managed one sack. Sure, Gilmore had a few nice pass deflections, and had the interception at the end, but that was more the QB putting up a duck.
Finally, the MVP. Edelman had a nice game. 10 catches, 141 yards. But on the Patriots' two scoring drives, Edelman had 3 catches for 41. Most of his performance was wasted.
The true MVP was Jared Goff tonight. Because is the Rams had a QB who at least played average, then the Rams are holding up the Lombardi trophy.
Don't forget possible P.I. in end zone could easily have put the ball down there for Rams, changing the outcome.
It was not brilliant defense. Give me a break. Giants-Niners 1990, THAT was brilliant defense.
A. Because we lost to Trent Dilfer.
B. Because we lost to that arrogant ass Brian Billick.
C. Because we lost to that murdering thug Rat Lewis
D. Because that turncoat owner owner, Art Modell, got a SB
E. Because we lost to that murdering thug Rat Lewis
Dude's been a good poster here for years.
I find much more good discussion of out saying a player "walks badly". Now that is some hard-hitting shit!!
i really liked seeing old fashioned bang em up football.
If Cooks hangs onto that perfectly thrown ball and the game goes 10-10 with 4 minutes to go it rises up the rankings alot.
Fairly sure some of you wouldn't be happy even if you could lay out how you wanted the game to go...
Of course the 4th quarter of 42 goes down as one of the most exciting, if not the most exciting 4th quarter in SB history.
People make sarcastic comments whenever there's a 38-34 high profile game about how the NFL has changed and no one plays defense. These wern't exactly shitty offenses yesterday who exchanged futility. I like a defensive battle where any score could be game changing.
Punt
Punt
Punt
Punt
Punt
Punt
Punt
FG
Punt
Int
Missed FG
If Cooks hangs onto that perfectly thrown ball and the game goes 10-10 with 4 minutes to go it rises up the rankings alot.
If you watch that play carefully, Gilmore, who is trailing, makes a great play by subtlety grabbing Cook’s left forearm. I think that did enough to spoil the catch...
I will amend...not perfectly throw but good enough to be a TD if Cook gets his hands up.
Rams receivers left a few plays out there despite the great play by the Pats secondary...
1) Super Bowl LIII, you just saw it. What a snoozefest.
2)Super Bowl V, the infamous 'Blooper Bowl',
Cowboys/Colts, hey Jim O'Brien. 16-13 Colts.
3)Super Bowl VII, the most entertaining aspect of the game was the infamous pass by the little tiemaker,
Garo Yepremian. Redskins/Dolphins. 14-7 Fins.
4)Super Bowl IX, Steelers/Vikings, 16-7, Oh Tark!
If you have a 5th, add it to the list.
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The Patriots
The Rams
Robert Kraft
Roger Goodell
Atlanta
The Announcers
Tony Romo (he deserves his own mention)
The Halftime Show or whatever that disgrace of nature was
The "Halftime Show"'s sound system
The Commercials
Tracy trying to interview Brady after the game
Everything else
LOL... I don't even bother comment on halftime shows anymore. I'm too old.
Don't forget photographers crowding the middle of the
field after the game, like a bunch of scavengers.
That poor Tracy Woodson almost got swallowed up,
people need to slow their roll a bit...plenty of time!
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Let's keep this one for future "chess match is over, it's a watered down scoring league" threads.
Exactly. I don't know what people want.
What people want is a good combo of both. 51-45 where no one can make a stop is garbage, and 3-3 in the 4th is pretty much the same. Something like the NFC championship where you have good strategy, scoring, but key defensive stops as well.
For me, it was that ramping up of expectations of a classic, defense low scoring, then maybe things would break out. But the second half was a complete dud.
This takes nothing away from the Pats who clamped it down and won the game.
Yes.
Were 90 posts deep on this one.
That poor Tracy Woodson almost got swallowed up
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That poor Tracy Woodson almost got swallowed up
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