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Did Bill Belichuck coach the defense this game?

giantsFC : 2/3/2019 10:47 pm
Because it sure seemed like it. Felt this was the first superbowl he sunk his own teeth in on the defensive side since the giants era.

Hell of a defensive game plan and execution. Rams were crap, but a lot of that was the defensive scheme.
Don't discount Flores  
Go Terps : 2/3/2019 10:50 pm : link
He's a good coach that we probably would have done well to interview last year.
Are you saying he didn't have a say in last year's debacle  
SHO'NUFF : 2/3/2019 10:51 pm : link
vs the Eagles? because it sure seemed that way.
He runs that show  
Sneakers O'toole : 2/3/2019 10:56 pm : link
Year in and year out. The whole ball of wax.
I think it’s clear  
Jim in Forest Hills : 2/3/2019 10:57 pm : link
Bill is the Goat. Huge talent disparity between these teams.
Would have preferred the saints  
mattlawson : 2/3/2019 11:01 pm : link
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RE: Don't discount Flores  
McNally's_Nuts : 2/4/2019 12:51 am : link
In comment 14286174 Go Terps said:
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He's a good coach that we probably would have done well to interview last year.


After his defense gave up 600 yards to Nick Foles?

How do you think that would have gone over?

We hear this every year, I’m sure Miami will be looking to hire someone new 33 months from now
BB is Goat...  
prdave73 : 2/4/2019 12:52 am : link
Plain and simple. This has been all him for the past few years.
RE: RE: Don't discount Flores  
Go Terps : 2/4/2019 2:41 am : link
In comment 14286304 McNally's_Nuts said:
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In comment 14286174 Go Terps said:


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He's a good coach that we probably would have done well to interview last year.



After his defense gave up 600 yards to Nick Foles?

How do you think that would have gone over?

We hear this every year, I’m sure Miami will be looking to hire someone new 33 months from now


That was Patricia's defense.
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Go Terps : 2/4/2019 2:43 am : link
And we ended up going a coordinator whose unit shit the bed in the NFCC against those same Eagles, do it's not like we did any better.
I know you watch the Giants  
McNally's_Nuts : 2/4/2019 7:19 am : link
while taking Brillo showers Terps but cmon man.

Last year it was Patricia’s fault and this year Flores gets all the credit?
Terps has lost his mind  
section125 : 2/4/2019 7:36 am : link
and we will need to listen to it every thread in the foreseeable future.
He should just root for another team and save the rest of us from complaining about everything Giants.
Flores, never heard of him until a couple weeks ago, is likely the latest in a long line of BB assistants that will crash a burn as HC. Has there ever been a BB assistant that improved a team to which they were hired?
Using Terps..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/4/2019 8:31 am : link
logic, hiring any coordinator who doesn't win a SB is a bad hire.

However, history has shown that hiring coordinators who have won SB's often fails too.
Shows defense still wins championships.....  
Simms11 : 2/4/2019 9:05 am : link
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RE: Using Terps..  
Greg from LI : 2/4/2019 9:24 am : link
In comment 14286402 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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logic, hiring any coordinator who doesn't win a SB is a bad hire.

However, history has shown that hiring coordinators who have won SB's often fails too.


What? Dave Wannstadt and Norv were terrific head coaches!
Its never one or the other in these situations  
PatersonPlank : 2/4/2019 9:42 am : link
I'm sure they spend a lot of time analyzing and discussing what to do. In the end they both agreed on the approach. However BB has been there a long time, so all these DC (from Flores and before) have come up in his system and to a large extent are his protégées. So I'm sure there isn't much difference in the general approach both came to the meeting with. I mean how could there be, BB is one of the greatest Def minds ever and Flores is someone who has come up under his tutelage.
I just feel  
giantsFC : 2/4/2019 9:44 am : link
This game went full giants 1990 right from the start and it had his complete defensive focus on it due to that.
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Go Terps : 2/4/2019 10:57 am : link
section125 - I was suggesting Flores as a possible HC candidate for us back when it was clear we were going to fire McAdoo. If you hadn't heard about him until a couple weeks ago you weren't paying attention.

FMIC - No, by my logic you simply wouldn't hire Shurmur. But hey maybe I'll be wrong on that score. After all we were trending up at the end of the year (three losses in a row to close it out nothwithstanding).
RE: I know you watch the Giants  
bluepepper : 2/4/2019 1:13 pm : link
In comment 14286341 McNally's_Nuts said:
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while taking Brillo showers Terps but cmon man.

Last year it was Patricia’s fault and this year Flores gets all the credit?

That's actually consistent isn't it? The inconsistent view would be last year Patricia's fault this year Belichick credit.
One of the first defensive plays of the game  
aka dbrny : 2/5/2019 11:52 am : link
was the same play BB used against Andre Reed of the Bills during SB25. Let the receiver run the crossing route, and have two big defenders waiting on the other side to let him know it's going to hurt. Can't quite take the receiver's head off like you could back then, but it worked just the same. Receiver made a business decision and didn't make the catch.
Gave me a good chuckle when I spotted it.  
aka dbrny : 2/5/2019 11:52 am : link
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The gameplan...  
bw in dc : 2/5/2019 12:04 pm : link
was likely hatched by BB. Guy has 40+ years experience and he's planned for the SB on Earth an astounding 12 times. And his defensive effort in conference championships games were also extraordinary. See the 1986 game vs the Skins and the 1990 game at 9erland.

But I'm sure Flores contributed. He's very shrewd.

On the topic of Flores being a HC candidate, I think he would have been a great hire. Why? Because he is very well-rounded in all phases on the game - was a scout, a special teams coach, an offensive coach, and then a DC. Personally, I think those attributes are great to have.
RE: One of the first defensive plays of the game  
PatersonPlank : 2/5/2019 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14287930 aka dbrny said:
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was the same play BB used against Andre Reed of the Bills during SB25. Let the receiver run the crossing route, and have two big defenders waiting on the other side to let him know it's going to hurt. Can't quite take the receiver's head off like you could back then, but it worked just the same. Receiver made a business decision and didn't make the catch.


Vividly remember that Reed play. That was the end of his play in the SB.
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