- Cecchini cleared waivers (yikes to his value around the league).
-NYFS top 50
Rookie maximums for at-bats (130), games pitched (30) or innings (50) in the major leagues"
If the 2 leaders are within 5% of each other, or the leader has less than 30% there will be a run-off between the top 2. If a run-off results in a tie the tiebreaker will be vote total in the previous poll, we will continue to "go back" in the polls until there is a clear leader.
*Jeff McNeil is ineligible
*Chris Flexen is ineligible
*Drew Smith is ineligible
*Tyler Bashlor is ineligible
1) Andres Gimenez (SS) AA 19/37 votes- 51%
2) Peter Alonso (1B) AAA 24/36 votes- 67%
3) Ronny Mauricio (SS) Kingsport 12/33-36%
4) Mark Vientos (3b) Kingsport 16/31-52%
5) David Peterson (LHP) A+ 21/31- 68%
6) Franklyn Kilome (RHP) AA 20/33-61%
7) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) A 18/32-56%
8 ) Shervyen Newton (SS) Kingsport 12/30-40%, Run-off with Anthony Kay 17/33-52%
9) Anthony Kay (LHP) AA 18/26-69%
10) Simeon Woods-Richardson (RHP) Kingsport 12/30-40%
11) Will Toffey (3B) 10/29-34%, run-off with Cecchini 15/27-56%
12) Gavin Cecchini (2b) 14/26-46%
13) Francisco Alvarez (C) 9/26-35%
14) Dez Lindsay (OF) 7/18-39%
15) Tony Dibrell (RHP) 9/23-39%
16) Jordan Humphreys (RHP) 7/21-33%, Run-off with Nido 18/24-75%
17) Junior Santos (RHP) 6/28-21%, Run-off with Nido 11/20-55%
18) Tomas Nido (C) 10/23-43%
19) Luis Guillorme (SS) 9/24-38%
20) Adrian Hernandez 6/26-23%, run-off with Wahl/Cortes 8/15-53%
21) Carlos Cortes (2b) 8/21-38%
22) Steven Villines (RHP) 4/16 25%, Run-off with Thompson/Wahl 9/23-39%
23) David Thompson (3b) 8/23-35%
24) Ali Sanchez (C) 9/17-53%
25) Eric Hanhold (RHP) 7/21-33%, run-off 7/20-35%
26) Luis Carpio (IF) 4/18-22%, runoff with Uriarte 9/14-64%
27) Stanley Consuegra (OF) 4/20-20%, runoff with Uriarte/Valdez 6/17-35%, advances due to more votes in previous poll
28) Juan Uriarte (C) 4/19-21%
29) Freddy Valdez (OF) 7/17-41%
30) Daniel Zamora (LHP) 3/17-18%, run-off with Montes De Oca 10/12-83%
31) Jaylen Palmer (??) 3/12-25%, run-off with Montes de Oca/Vilera 9/16-56%
32) Ryley Gilliam (RHP) 5/22-23%, run-off with Manea 8/16-50%, advances due to more votes in previous poll
33) Matt Winaker (OF) 4/22-18
34) Kyle Dowdy (RHP) 6/20-30%, run-off with Vilera 9/12-75%
35) Jaison Vilera (RHP) 6/17-35%
36) Jose Miguel Medina(OF) 6/17-24%
37) Jeremy Vasquez (1b) 3/18-17% run-off with MDO/Manea/Viall 3/7-43%
38) Patrick Mazeika (C) 4/13-31%
39) Walker Lockett (RHP) 5/13-38%
40) Sam Haggerty (UTIL) 7/11 64%
41) Chris Viall (RHP) 4/11 36%
42) Ryder Ryan (RHP) 8/13- 62%
43) Bryce Montes de Oca 6/19 32%
44) Christian James 6/17-35%
45) Joe Cavallaro 3/17-18%, run-off with Brodey 7/13-54%
46) Michael Paez (IF) 5/22-23%
47) David Marcano (RHP) 4/22-18%, run-off with Brody 7/12-58%
48) Quinn Brodey (OF) 5/23-22%, 9/13-69%
49) Jose Moreno (RHP) 4/23-17% run-off with Gonzalez 8/14-57%
50) Tim Tebow (OF) 8/33-24%, run-off with Gonzalez 17/27-63%
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Yoel Romero (UTIL)
Gregory Guerrero (SS)
Raul Beracierta (OF)
Kevin Kaczmarski (OF)
Hansel Moreno (UTIL)
Edgardo Fermin (SS/2B)
Kevin Smith (LHP)
Daison Acosta (RHP)
The city signed an agreement Thursday that charts a path forward for development in Willets Point.
The de Blasio administration signed a letter of intent Thursday with a joint venture between the Related Cos. and Sterling Equities. The pact lays out a timeline for the development team to hash out the details on two potential scenarios drafted by a community task force for 17 acres to the east of Citi Field in Queens. One of the scenarios includes a hotel and soccer stadium, while the other is more traditional, presenting a mix focusing on housing and retail. In roughly a year, according to the letter, the city will decide which path to pursue and draft a final development agreement after soliciting public input.
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While working out a more granular plan for the mixed-use development scenario would be fairly straightforward, vetting plans for a soccer stadium would be more involved. Building an arena would require the developers to secure a letter of intent from a franchise, according to Glen. The team would likely be newly created within the United Soccer League, an organization with nearly 40 squads that play in smaller stadiums than Major League Soccer, a league that counts New York City Football Club among its members. While the task force recommended a stadium of up to 25,000 seats, the developers envision a facility with up to 15,000 seats, according to the city.
One calls for a soccer stadium of up to 25,000 seats, according to the documents. Parking for the venue would be shared with Citi Field. In addition, the plan calls for retail, open space, a school, new police and fire stations and a residential building.
The second scenario follows a more typical mixed-use format that would produce six blocks of residential development, retail, open space, a high school and a fire station along with a health center.
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Listen is he likely to crush it with no growing pains - no, but if he does they will push him forward at the end of June regardless of his defensive prowess. They simply dont hold back mature bats becuase of defensive concerns, teams hope they can get taht straightened out in the high minors while they salivate over the offensive potential.
Why is this notable? Because... Mesoraco at 1.75 million + releasing TDA would save the Mets the Mets roughly 2 million dollars which might help bring in a Buchholz.
I'd certainly take Mesoraco + Buchholz (and say + 1-2 million) over just TDA.
With the dearth of caching in MLB, I wonder if maybe he'd be able to get a BP arm.
either way I agree, Mesoraco + Buchholz > TDA
.950 slugging? I mean you're asking a question that all due respect is absurd. The league leader in major league baseball slugged .640. So if you're point is he's out of this world amazing then sure. But if he did that he'd be the top prospect in all of baseball sight unseen. Joey Gallo has 80 power and highest he ever slugged was .660. The league leader in the SAL slugged .579.
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As for these hypotheticals I throw out there, I do so as a reminder that there are things we cannot know, and to contextualize when you're making your analysis. You do provide a lot of evidence in your posts that support your theory of the case. But you also ignore outliers.
The issue i have with your arguments sometimes, is that you speak with an authority, a degree of certainty, that you or anyone outside the Mets organization do not have the knowledge to possess.
So using your collection of players you identified, and inserting them into the following logic you developed:
1. Teenage Player is drafted in season X
2. Teenage Player in season X+1 skips Rookie Ball and Begins in low A
3. Teenage Player in season X+! is promoted from low A to High A in season x+1
You're saying there are only 2 instances you can think of. Lastings Milledge and Tejada. The problem with your analysis is that there have been so few high school bats drafted in the top 10 rounds in the last 10 years. Lets review:
Year Player Pos RD
2008 Javier Rodrqiuez OF 4 Non Prospect
2009 Darrell Cecliani OF 3 Non Prospect
2011 Brandon Nimmo OF 1 Prospect
2012 Gavin Cecchini IF 1 Prospect
2012 Brandon Kaupe 2B 4 Non Prospect
2012 Tomas Nido C 8 Non Prospect
2013 Dominic Smith 1B 1 Prospect
2013 Luis Guillmore SS 10 Non Prospect
2014 Milton Ramos SS 2 Non Prospect
2014 Dash Winningham 1B 8 Non Prospect
2015 Desmond Lindsay OF 2 Prospect
2017 Mark Vientos 3B 2 Prospect
That's 12 players. Most of who were non-prospects, or not elite prospects.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying that you speak to - the maybe 10/20% chance of this achievement - as almost a certainty to not happen.
I think in your writing style, you leave little wiggle room for what could be possible. And data is so small that your theories aren't demonstrable truths.
Whether he makes it through camp or not, who knows, because Dan's math is 100% accurate and every team including the Mets would probably agree with it. Mesoraco (or similar player) + a few million to spend on one of the many pitchers still available is a much better use of resources than rehabbing TDA and having him occupy a spot on the 40 man.
.400/.535/.916, at 32 years old lol
But also before my time I think I found the greatest minor league season I've ever seen 1978 Gary Redus .462/.559/.787, 17 homers 42/48 SB's, 62 walks 31 k's.. WTF
Same thing with the pen. You have 6 spots close to a lock if Dowdy shows anything in the spring so that leaves one spot (Avilan has actually been a good Loogy over the last few years and is only 29) so if you want him that makes 7. That leaves no room for any surprises from the non roster guys, none of the younger AAA arms to impress. All that’s fine, but there isn’t a lot of room and the season is so long you might want to leave a spot or two to fudge with.
Same thing with the pen. You have 6 spots close to a lock if Dowdy shows anything in the spring so that leaves one spot (Avilan has actually been a good Loogy over the last few years and is only 29) so if you want him that makes 7. That leaves no room for any surprises from the non roster guys, none of the younger AAA arms to impress. All that’s fine, but there isn’t a lot of room and the season is so long you might want to leave a spot or two to fudge with.
Eiland had Vargas second half in KC 2017 (awful) and first half this year too so for a full year he didn't "turn it around". The narrative was Eiland would fix him and through 12 starts he had an... 8.75 era. To rely on him is wacko.
roster could be a collection of the worst ML players of the last half decade.
Rajai has an opt out and will likely use it if he doesn't make the team. Liriano can opt out to Asia as well. Blanco has a 6/1 opt out.
I'm not saying there is "no chance" but he's not MLB "depth" or bench help or a guy they call up if Rosario or Cano goes the DL for 2 weeks, er sorry "IL". Because he doesn't need to be added it'll take a major injury or him really mashing to the point they can't resist. Otherwise ST 2020 is when he gets his shot (if hes still here) or Rosario isn't moved.
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Where we are trying to shed 2 million to put that towards X. There likely is still money available for smaller type additions so if we aren’t in on a guy like Bucholtz (who I like) it’s probably because Eilland feels Vargas turned it around in the second half and is just as worthy of a gamble as many other options out there. Not saying it’s right or wrong... just think there’s more to it than “money”.
Same thing with the pen. You have 6 spots close to a lock if Dowdy shows anything in the spring so that leaves one spot (Avilan has actually been a good Loogy over the last few years and is only 29) so if you want him that makes 7. That leaves no room for any surprises from the non roster guys, none of the younger AAA arms to impress. All that’s fine, but there isn’t a lot of room and the season is so long you might want to leave a spot or two to fudge with.
Eiland had Vargas second half in KC 2017 (awful) and first half this year too so for a full year he didn't "turn it around". The narrative was Eiland would fix him and through 12 starts he had an... 8.75 era. To rely on him is wacko.
Not trying to argue that but Vargas gave up 8 runs without retiring an out which blew his early season numbers up. He got lit up like a Christmas tree over his first 3-4 starts. 5th start through the end of the years he’s right at career averages (4.4ish ERA). Second half his era is in the 3s. I actually don’t even think Eilland helped him... more likely Vargas just finally settled in. Early he was coming off an injury, no ST, pitched in front of a net for a quick rehab, they skipped starts, it was really odd.
To be clear I’m not a Vargas fan. If we can upgrade? Great. Just trying to think through their logic.
if this is an indication of what a playoff beard could look like for him, get him on the team, have him be the bullpen catcher
Really depends almost fully how he looks vs. upper level pitching. There is a perception he's "limited" physically but at times he has shown an ability to drive the ball (that being said Guillorme at times has too). Gimenez was "okay" in Bing in his first look, ugly AFL so his stock is likely "somewhat" down.
But that means nothing in the sense if he hits in Bing he's a top 5ish SS prospect in baseball. If he doesn't hit then obviously his trade value is very limited. Good glove, doesn't hit no longer really plays. If he hits he likely can headline a "major" deal (along with other talent).
Right now his value wouldn't really be enough for it to make sense. He's a top 40ish prospect in the game. Phillies had to add a good young catcher and a 3rd piece a top 15-ish prospect in the game for good, not amazing Realmuto.
I could see JD Davis there too at 3B to start. I hope that’s what they do to get him some consistent atbats. I’d rather see TJ Rivera and Dom on the bench in the minors for a few weeks until we know Davis and Alonso are 100% ready.
So the Mets will have to keep all of their injured guys on the 25? That's crazy Dan!
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So the Mets will have to keep all of their injured guys on the 25? That's crazy Dan!
haha DH
I read it's at least 3 years away, he'd look like a genius if it happened, especially sooner and it gave the Mets a way to get Alonso, Cano, McNeil and Lowrie in the lineup at the same time (assuming they were all playing well), but I think there is a better chance it is a coincidence.
And it's still not done, I'll believe it when I see it.
Doubtful. Manfred said it won't be happening in 2019 and likely won't until post 2021.
Alonso #48
Giminez #51
Kelenic #67
I love the creativity acquiring that type of guy. Basically other teams pre-2018 Brandon Nimmo's. My only confusion with the pickup is that those types kind of need regular MLB at bats to take the next step and I'm not positive where those are going to come from for him. Hopefully they let him start over Frazier at 1B while Alonso is in the minors.
2017 +2018 he pitched 201 innings and allowed 254 hits walking 41.. only 1 start in the PCL so there wasn't THAT excuse
-Cameron Planck not yet retiring despite rumors to the contrary claims he's healthy. 1 million dollars spent.. .2 innings thrown so far.. drafted in 2016, yeesh
Planck is a really, really good dude. Talented dude. But I don’t think he HAS to have it. Start a family, and be happy is something more important to a lot more players than you’d ever imagine.
Alonso #48
Giminez #51
Kelenic #67
Happy for John that he found another place to go as he is a really nice guy even when we have disagreed about rankings. Disappointed that I am going to have to pay to continue reading him.