Jeremy Woo suggested a 3 way deal in which the Knicks would send Jordan or Matthews (plus 2 1st round picks) or Kanter, Knox and 1 first round pick to Boston for Irving who would then send Brown, Smart, Morris and "picks" to NO for Anthony Davis.
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To trade that away
To acquire one if the players the exact same cap space will allow them to acquire for nothing?
"Of course, there is the possibility that Irving might sign in New York this summer anyway, which is fair, but there are a number of advantages the Knicks would gain by acquiring him immediately. The primary reason is the value of owning Irvings Bird Rights, which they can only acquire via trade. That would allow New York to go over the salary cap when re-signing him this summer, allows them to offer him the most long-term money, and most importantly, puts their first superstar in play before free agency even begins."
To trade that away
To acquire one if the players the exact same cap space will allow them to acquire for nothing?
That's incorrect. They would be able to cover over their cap to sign him by acquiring his bird rights.
It only applies to Davis BECAUSE they have Irving. Can't have 2 players on your roster signed under the "Rose Rule". They could trade for Davis now but only if Irving were dealt.
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To trade that away
To acquire one if the players the exact same cap space will allow them to acquire for nothing?
That's incorrect. They would be able to cover over their cap to sign him by acquiring his bird rights.
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The leagues goal was to reward players operating under rookie-scale contracts who had signed a maximum salary extension but had outperformed the Tier 1 (25 percent) maximum salary slot.
If a player on his rookie contract accomplishes one of the following (1) earns All-NBA first-, second- or third-team honors twice, (2) is voted an NBA All-Star starter by the fans twice, or (3) named NBA MVP his salary slot will be eligible for the Tier 2 maximum salary (30 percent) when the extension begins in his fifth season.
Teams do have the right to negotiate the percentage of a max salary slot as long as it falls between 25 percent and 30 percent in the first year of the extension if the player reaches the criteria set forth above.
I didn't understand why people kept saying that either. All of these little "unknown" rules make it so complicated.
I get the feeling even the Knicks expect Davis to end up signing with the Lakers. His dad is clearly trying to push him to LAL.
Just have to be careful they don't do anything that can positively impact the clubhouse culture and therefore on-court performance.
The Suns mean business right now. Can't let our foot touch the gas here at all.
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on the Davis stuff, i couldnt remember why that was the case.
I didn't understand why people kept saying that either. All of these little "unknown" rules make it so complicated.
The other issue is that Kyrie and Davis both changed one of the clauses in their "Rose rule". If they didn't, then they'd be able to be on the same team
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dump Kanter the day after the deadline if he's not moved. He's getting more and more lippy.
Just have to be careful they don't do anything that can positively impact the clubhouse culture and therefore on-court performance.
The Suns mean business right now. Can't let our foot touch the gas here at all.
haha. Sadly they added 2 well regarded professionals plus DSJ who seems kind of shy/to himself in the KP deal.. damn you positive clubhouse additions!!
We cannot tradd for AD right now and have enough space for 2 max players. It would need to be after we sign 2 max players and 30 days after our first round pick if I am not mistaken.
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A SG who can't shoot. Sounds good.
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What am I missing? If there's interest, of course we'd trade him. Why not get something instead of nothing?
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If there are so many teams interested they SHOULD be able to get a 2nd or a young player who isn't playing much from one of these squads.
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What am I missing? If there's interest, of course we'd trade him. Why not get something instead of nothing?
Teams might only be offering salary swaps or worse, players with more years.
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What am I missing? If there's interest, of course we'd trade him. Why not get something instead of nothing?
Teams might only be offering salary swaps or worse, players with more years.
Well, yeah, but if teams want him, the Knicks have the leverage. They're the ones in the driver's seat. They can ask for draft picks or whatever they want.
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revisiting the Melo deal. Trading assets for a player that can sign in the offseason. They need to keep some of these younger players to develop. Can't just hope that vets will come and play for cheap.
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Or use those younger players/assets to add a player like Davis after the 2 max players are signed...
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That sounds so dumb. We give up assets for what exactly?
"Of course, there is the possibility that Irving might sign in New York this summer anyway, which is fair, but there are a number of advantages the Knicks would gain by acquiring him immediately. The primary reason is the value of owning Irvings Bird Rights, which they can only acquire via trade. That would allow New York to go over the salary cap when re-signing him this summer, allows them to offer him the most long-term money, and most importantly, puts their first superstar in play before free agency even begins."
Ok thats fair, but you cant help Boston get Davis. Thats just counter productive even if the Knicks did gain ground while doing so.
Im sure the Knicks are shopping everyone.
Matthews to 76ers for Wilson Chandler, Justin Patton, 2nd rounder?
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is going to be near impossible. Unless a team is willing to gut their depth to come up with the right amount of salaries. Its a shame cause Jordan/mathews should have value.
Matthews to 76ers for Wilson Chandler, Justin Patton, 2nd rounder?
Sounds fair
This hot take may be the dumbest yet. What exactly do you think you are going to get for a player with an $18M cap hit? No one is giving up 1st rounders for a guy who will be on the waiver wire in a week. If a team gives up a 2nd rounder or two for the right to avoid a fight to sign the player, that's a win.
"Brutal" when you get an asset for a player you are either going to buy out or renounce rights to at the end of the season?! Lack of common sense by poster is more like it.
The only thing "brutal" about your hot take is the failure to recognize the need to gather future assets for disposable assets.