NFT: Knicks Chat: Theoretical 3 way blockbuster

don't think it's outlandish to think maybe they can land a Bolden or Patton (I think he's probably a bust but too soon to tell( I'd love Korkmaz but I find it hard to believe they would dump him.

If I'm reading that correctly, that would give the knicks an additional 16 million in cap space to sign someone? That is meaningful...

Even then it's probably not worth it for the Knicks. Do you really want Irving spending the rest of the season here on a bad team and helping win meaningless games? And do you really want to help Boston land Davis?

I would be focused on getting whatever value you can for Matthews and Jordan before the deadline....

presser at 2:30, expect some zings at the Knicks.

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In comment 14286660 moze1021 said: Quote: In comment 14286650 Italianju said: Quote: is going to be near impossible. Unless a team is willing to gut their depth to come up with the right amount of salaries. Its a shame cause Jordan/mathews should have value. Matthews to 76ers for Wilson Chandler, Justin Patton, 2nd rounder? Sounds fair

or Furkan Korkmaz

@ZachLowe_NBA says the Knicks talked to the Jazz about trading Courtney Lee for Alec Burks, but Utah said no. They learned it would probably take a 1st round pick to trade his contract

I wonder if Brooklyn has any interest in Matthews/ Jordan/ Kanter? They own the Knicks 2nd round pick which is currently 31st overall and have the expirings to get it done. Could be a nice trade for the Knicks.

Frank and Vonleh to Orlando for Mo Bamba

Rumors are Magic looking to move him and extend Vucevic

What about something along the lines of Kanter and Matthews to the Kings for Zach Randolph, Ben McLemore and a future first? And/or maybe they throw in one of their "prospects" like Giles, Jackson or Skal.

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In comment 14286663 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 14286660 moze1021 said: Quote: In comment 14286650 Italianju said: Quote: is going to be near impossible. Unless a team is willing to gut their depth to come up with the right amount of salaries. Its a shame cause Jordan/mathews should have value. Matthews to 76ers for Wilson Chandler, Justin Patton, 2nd rounder? Sounds fair or Furkan Korkmaz

I�d rather have Zaire Smith

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don't think it's outlandish to think maybe they can land a Bolden or Patton (I think he's probably a bust but too soon to tell( I'd love Korkmaz but I find it hard to believe they would dump him.

TBH i just put Patton in there to make the $$ line up and only take back an expiring deal...and he isn't even with the Sixers right now..

Chandler makes sense because he hasn't been what they hoped & he is out for 2-3 weeks.

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Frank and Vonleh to Orlando for Mo Bamba Rumors are Magic looking to move him and extend Vucevic

They'd move Bamba in his rookie season?

Bold strategy, Cotton. I would be on that like white on rice. Do we get the rights to his song too?

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What about something along the lines of Kanter and Matthews to the Kings for Zach Randolph, Ben McLemore and a future first? And/or maybe they throw in one of their "prospects" like Giles, Jackson or Skal.

If Perry gets a 1st round pick for Kanter he deserves exec of the year. I don't think they could get Giles but I would be in on Jackson or Skal. Both on cheap contracts. And maybe grab a 2019 2nd round pick too.

chance on Giles. Quietly flashing some really intriguing talent already. For all of the talk of Fizdale in regard to developing young players (remains to be seen) Joerger has the Kings "winning" and guys like Giles (20), Bagley (19), Fox (21), Jackson (23) giving some real quality minutes/flashing.

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In comment 14286863 Anakim said: Quote: What about something along the lines of Kanter and Matthews to the Kings for Zach Randolph, Ben McLemore and a future first? And/or maybe they throw in one of their "prospects" like Giles, Jackson or Skal. If Perry gets a 1st round pick for Kanter he deserves exec of the year. I don't think they could get Giles but I would be in on Jackson or Skal. Both on cheap contracts. And maybe grab a 2019 2nd round pick too.

Salaries arent even close though right??

And we have no leverage... best is one of Kanter/Jordan/Matthews for Randolph (+ McLemore if it's Jordan to balance salaries) and a 2nd maybe...

Objective of any trade, IMO should be:

1) Do not take anything but expiring deals back
2) Pick up a 2nd rounder
3) Do not acquire any players who help you win a game this season

is really beyond lame due to Dolan. "You have 7 1st rounders over the next 5 years!" as if that's such a staggering figure. KP seems like a bitch but did they have to put on the screen that he didn't show up to the exit interview? how many games he's missed?

Just casually scrolling the Hawks for example have 9 firsts over the next 5 seasons + 8 2nd's, Celtics have 8 1sts, Sixers have 7, Suns have 6

having 7 firsts in 5 years is like a normal team having 15. Usually we would have 2 firsts in 5 years!

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is really beyond lame due to Dolan. "You have 7 1st rounders over the next 5 years!" as if that's such a staggering figure. KP seems like a bitch but did they have to put on the screen that he didn't show up to the exit interview? how many games he's missed? Just casually scrolling the Hawks for example have 9 firsts over the next 5 seasons + 8 2nd's, Celtics have 8 1sts, Sixers have 7, Suns have 6

Haha, I noticed that too. Kenny and Rebecca were pointing that out ad nauseum.

Oooooooooh, 7 first rounders in 5 years! Suddenly this organization isn't the inept shithole that we've all grown accustomed to observing.

Earlier this year. I know it�s usually the last day but even rumors are not getting out for any NBA team. On NBA radio they also said more buyers than sellers. I was a little surprised at that.

I'll be honest, when they put it up during the game I didn't even notice the pettiness of it all, but Twitter was all over it.

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What about something along the lines of Kanter and Matthews to the Kings for Zach Randolph, Ben McLemore and a future first? And/or maybe they throw in one of their "prospects" like Giles, Jackson or Skal.

The Kings were the first team that came to mind for me as well. They are a game back from the 8th seed and may be interested in improving.

A trade of Matthews for Koufos and Shumpert works salarywise. Koufos isn't getting much PT from them, and Matthews would be an upgrade over Shump. Would just be a matter of figuring out fair compensation on the Knicks side, maybe a 2nd round pick or take a flier on a guy like Frank Mason or Skal.

There center situation is a disaster and they are fighting for a playoff spot.

This was the first MSG broadcast since the trade - it would've been nice to have the regular play-by-play guy chiming in.

a brief chat with an NBA writer I know about the draft. Kid I had never heard of (Charles Bassey) apparently has a lot of buzz, Ibaka comps, teams are souring on Reddish a bit, some teams like Fernando as high as 5-10, thinks Garland could go pretty high if his health checks out. "Weak" top of the draft.

The comments from Harlow were absurd. �7 picks the next 5 years�. You mean 2 extra picks 3 and 5 years from now( protected). The garbage she was spewing was embarrassing. And how about trading for �3 first round picks�? Because DSJ is considered a pick?

What a joke. You would have thought it was the Hershel Walker trade....

with Spencer Pearlman of The Stepien, an NBA draft website. Regarding prospects, he said Zion is the only one who'd make his first tier in last year's draft (Jaren Jackson and Luka) - none of the other prospects would make second tier in last year's draft. He said Texas PF Jaxson Hayes may rise into the top five discussion by season's end (maybe a KP replacement if we drop?). Also praised Garland.
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is Pearlman has two sources - one from Golden State and one from New York - telling him that KD is signing with the Knicks. Neither works in the organizations, but both have given him good info in the past. More smoke I guess - we'll see.

isn't a great fit with Mitch. He's all dunks and layups. In fairness, was focused on trying to become an NFL player (his dad is an NFL coach). Monster athlete but almost an old-school 4/5 at this point.

philosophy regarding Ja with DSJ on board and these Kyrie rumors?

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philosophy regarding Ja with DSJ on board and these Kyrie rumors?

DSJ should have ZERO impact unless he's very impressive down the stretch. The pursuit of Kyrie may/may not but you don't pass on Morant because you're hopeful you land Kyrie if you really view Morant as the clear #2 best prospect in this draft.

Not sure how anyone can deny that Mills is still in charge...That alone still worries me.

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Beyond the Lakers and Knicks, the Pelicans have been made aware of "a handful" of teams that Anthony Davis would be willing to sign long-term with upon a trade, league sources tell ESPN. Boston isn't included on that list.

Don't know why the NBA has the rush into that two weeks after the season ends.

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Don't know why the NBA has the rush into that two weeks after the season ends.

I mean I kind of disagree with this... makes sense to draft first.

In the draft you get what you get... in free agency you target what you want...

You'd always want to get the one you have less control of out of the way first...

is that the Knicks package centered around Zion Williamson (if we get the 1st pick) is the preferred package overwhelmingly for AD. I know someone said earlier that we would need to sign the 2 free agents first to potentially add Davis as a 3rd piece. That would be pretty insane if the Knicks potentially had Irving, Durant, and AD.

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with Spencer Pearlman of The Stepien, an NBA draft website. Regarding prospects, he said Zion is the only one who'd make his first tier in last year's draft (Jaren Jackson and Luka) - none of the other prospects would make second tier in last year's draft. He said Texas PF Jaxson Hayes may rise into the top five discussion by season's end (maybe a KP replacement if we drop?). Also praised Garland. KnicksFilmSchool - ( New Window )

Spencer's one of my closest friends

say matthews, knox, frank, this years 1st, 2 mavs 1sts you could still have room for 2 max slots...

i forgot matthews can not be traded with another player

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Would be better if it was only 2 teams on the list... but just happy the Knicks are on it.

May 14th is the most important day in Knicks history since The Decision.

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is that the Knicks package centered around Zion Williamson (if we get the 1st pick) is the preferred package overwhelmingly for AD. I know someone said earlier that we would need to sign the 2 free agents first to potentially add Davis as a 3rd piece. That would be pretty insane if the Knicks potentially had Irving, Durant, and AD.

I mean it's pretty obvious the #1 overall pick as the centerpiece is more valuable than anything else NO could possibly want. Zion is a huge prospect and a guy you can market.

Love it. Now let's pry Kyrie out of there.

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i forgot matthews can not be traded with another player

Then never mind my offer.


So yeah, I can't imagine we get anything more than a second rounder and maybe a young player for him.

between New Orleans and Rob Pelinka (Lakers GM), back when he was an agent. They had a beef over Eric Gordon's contract or something. I'm thrilled that Boston and LA may come away empty-handed, at least for the time being (in LA's case).

AD has talked to kyrie? Why would he not want to go there if kyrie is staying long term?

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Enjoyed listening to him on that podcast - sounds like he's got his finger on the pulse of these draft prospects. He wasn't all that high on Ja Morant, which I found interesting.

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New Orleans rejected the Knicks on a Porzingis offer recently, and likely don't have the assets to gain the Pelicans' interest unless they defy the odds on a 12 percent chance in the draft lottery to get the No. 1 overall pick in the June draft.

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Quote: Spencer's one of my closest friends Enjoyed listening to him on that podcast - sounds like he's got his finger on the pulse of these draft prospects. He wasn't all that high on Ja Morant, which I found interesting.

He likes Morant, but he thinks Garland is the MUCH better PG prospect.

And yeah, Spence is the real deal. I haven't seen him in months because he's always watching film and scouting, but I talk to him regularly.

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Anthony Davis� representatives have informed the Pelicans that he would sign long-term with the Lakers, Knicks, Bucks and Clippers if he is traded, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA.

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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ Verified account @wojespn New Orleans rejected the Knicks on a Porzingis offer recently, and likely don't have the assets to gain the Pelicans' interest unless they defy the odds on a 12 percent chance in the draft lottery to get the No. 1 overall pick in the June draft.

Its b/c they know through back-channels or just plain obvious KP wasnt going to re-up with them. Further they might have been more concerned with the injury history than Dal.

They now have alot more tradeable assets in picks and young players to make the deal with NO.

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Anthony Davis� representatives have informed the Pelicans that he would sign long-term with the Lakers, Knicks, Bucks and Clippers if he is traded, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA.

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Also, everyone questioning the Knicks as a destination has their head in the sand. The most obvious thing happening there is the worst kept secret in the league. But no one wants to say it/can�t say it.