Super Bowl and thoughts of officiting and moving forward..

...if that were Brady on the sideline. LOL


The main reason I say no to instant replay on fouls: we'll be in the same predicament - and even worse - we are now with challenges: down to the microframe showing something or not something happening.

I think it would be a real mess.

Then the flow of game won't even be interrupted. And what the fuck are refs supposed to do anyway? Stand around and have the coaches call the infractions or fumbles?

On this one

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QBs running OOB on the sideline getting clocked its called in todays NFL...

I originally thought it was a hit out of bounds, but when they showed the replay he was actually just barely in bounds when he was hit. Since he was out of the pocket and still in bounds there shouldn't be any penalty.

But he also threw the ball, how many steps did he take? I haven't really seen the play again but theory as an official is if QB running OOB he needs to be protected.. It was close but the holding was flat out bad..

but I had to hang around for the commercials and Adam Lavigne.

In comment 14287343 MaineMike said:

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But he also threw the ball, how many steps did he take? I haven't really seen the play again but theory as an official is if QB running OOB he needs to be protected.. It was close but the holding was flat out bad..

If the QB is running as if they are going OOB, what is to stop him from cutting back and gaining extra yardage? He is out of the pocket and should be treated as a running back. People want to advocate to protect a QB? Then tell the player to stay in the pocket. Want to be a runner? Then don't expect special treatment.

This wasn't a big of call-no call as the holding call...I've seen PArry in person doing a game. last year in LA... I don't like his demeanor on field either.. I think he's bit cocky....

But the no call on Donald when he threw Brady to the ground should have been a Roughing the Passer. The ball had already been released and the deliberate effort by Donald was not just a continuation of action that began before the throw. That non-call would have continued the drive.

Reviewed upstairs.

Just keep it the way it is. 2 and a 3rd if u win your first two. Just add judgement calls. The most egregious are obvious. The fans know the refs absolutely suck so Its no longer a question of making them look bad. They do that week in as week out. A missed call is a missed call. Belichick has advocated This. But it’s too easy.

They’d rather let the refs fuck games up I guess

I agree with everything you have outlined. They can do it without slowing down the game. The NCAA reviews every play up stairs but it rarely slows down the game and when it does it is for a good reason.

They can easily agree to look at egregious non calls and call down to the field to stop play. This would not happen often but when it did they would get it right which is what everyone wants.

The Saints should have been playing. And would have had a better chance to win that game because their D is better against the run and their O is much more diverse. And I'm not a saints fan.

I threw the remote on the personal foul call in the 1st Q. What was he supposed to do, not tackle him? He caught the pass and got hit. He did not interfere. Let's play flag football.

close but it was a penalty (unless you were rooting for the Rams). NFL made the rule, officials enforce it. Sterratore just explains the rule. Besides it was helmet to helmet, they said defenseless player (by rule it was and yes a stupid rule IMHO) but even so, it was helmet to helmet.

Sullivan's hold is called by the umpire, not referee. Umpire's responsibility is the center. Again, close call, but the Rams were blatantly holding throughout the game and didn't get called at all. One play #91 came up the middle, beat Sullivan, and two steps from Goff was wrapped up - how that wasn't called is beyond me.

Goff running OOB. Sideline video shows he was clearly inbounds - it wasn't close. And in 1983 Perry Williams was called for hitting Montana near the sideline. Later Montana was running OB, Perry held up and Montana turned and ran past him for a huge gain. IMV, Montana should have been given an unsportsman penalty seeing as how he faked going OOB. That maybe the worst penalty in football. There needs to be a parameter - like the ball carrier is inside of the 1 yard stripe on the sideline.

If you want to nit-pick penalties it works both ways most of the time.

BTW, I like the NCAA video ref upstairs calling down to the field to review the plays.

the inconsistency is what hurts the game.

Look at the critical calls that the crew made. A personal foul where the runner lowers his head as he's being tackled by a defender in the upright position. You could call that on many tackles throughout the game.

The 3rd down defensive holding called on NE where the Rams receiver initiated contact awards a new first down instead of a punt.

I've been saying for years that they need to use common sense on a lot of these calls. If there is incidental contact or minor contact doesn't impact a play, let it go. Calling a bullshit touch of a receiver on 3rd and 14 impacts the game and by extension artificially inflates scoring.

Personal fouls should be if intent is used to hit a player illegally. Not a tackle where helmets collide because of body position. Call leading with the helmet, not having your helmet run into by the runner. That's why they were supposed to focus on calling the offensive player for lowering the head.

Honestly, officiating would be so much more effective if they called the offensive holds that materially impacted a pass rusher or a would be tackler and called defensive holding when it actually impacts a wide receiver from making his cut. Calling a DB for putting their hand on a player's shoulder on the opposite side of the field that causes no negative impact is complete horseshit.

And for fuck's sake - call only what you see, not what you think.

Just call the damn game.

or defensive PI on just about every play......some guys are good at getting away with it, and some are not....

What bugs me, are calls that are not even near the play, that result in first downs for the offense......

Also, penalties like, 3rd and 25, pass incomplete, but roughing the passer called? Automatic first down....should be a penalty, say 15 yards.....down over, 3rd and 10....not an automatic first down....

Challenge 3 is earmarked for a penalty. Called or uncalled you get one penalty challenge per game. So use it wisely.

In comment 14287595 seyhey said:

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I agree with everything you have outlined. They can do it without slowing down the game. The NCAA reviews every play up stairs but it rarely slows down the game and when it does it is for a good reason. They can easily agree to look at egregious non calls and call down to the field to stop play. This would not happen often but when it did they would get it right which is what everyone wants. The Saints should have been playing. And would have had a better chance to win that game because their D is better against the run and their O is much more diverse. And I'm not a saints fan.

Saints would have been run out of the building. They had been sputtering for 4-5 games before their last playoff game. I think there is credence to the rumor that Brees was injured after the big hit he took in the Dallas game. They were never the same. They reminded me of the 2008 Giants. Started off great and then became worn down and injured by the time the playoffs rolled around.

RIP Red Cashion.