-58 mins ago – via Sporting News
Saric could find himself on the trade block by Thursday. The Wolves likely would prefer to wait until the offseason to make a trade involving what was supposed to be the most valuable piece they got in return for Butler, but according to one league executive, “He could be had for a decent offer, a first-rounder and a player.”
-58 mins ago – via ESPN
Brian Windhorst: Jeremy Lin is out there. I think there is a good chance Jeremy Lin is going to get traded to somebody who needs a quality guard.
(Linsanity aside, Jeremy Lin is a solid NBA guard. People often refuse to acknowledge this given his time here. Don't look now but the Hawks could be a team to watch quicker than we think. TONS of picks, Trae Young is legit, Collins is one of the most underrated young bigs in the league, Huerter is having a solid age 20 season. I'm not saying it happens overnight but they are a team to watch.
-Brian Windhorst mentioned that New York plans to keep the two-time NBA rebounding leader, though many have expected Jordan to end up as a buyout candidate (via ESPN):
“One thing I’ll say about the Knicks: they’re making it look like they intend to keep DeAndre Jordan. You can extrapolate this out: [He] has a relationship with Kevin Durant. Although I don’t know how [the Knicks can retain the big man]. I mean, they can’t keep him at any real number.”
But one more-modern legend says that Harden’s ball-dominant style during the streak, while impressive and perhaps even necessary, will not help the Rockets win an NBA title. Surprisingly that legend is Kobe Bryant “I’m not a fan of in terms of winning championships, I don’t think that style is ever going to win championships,” Bryant, the former Los Angeles Lakers star said in a clip released from an upcoming episode of ESPN’s “The Jump.” – via USA Today Sports
you would hope he would take less to play with 2 stars like west did with warriors...
i am sure knicks asked him if he would be interested
I realize some guys have gone it to ring chase but that seems exceedingly low for Jordan. He's only 30 and still a good player. You never know but that would be pretty wild.
Just 2 trips to the finals in the last 45 years? For a New York team? They are the joke of the NBA, year after year.....
Caz, Bill, Earl, Walt, Willis.....distant memories....
Maybe getting Ewing was the kiss of death for this franchise?
Jordan/Robinson
KD
Knox/Thomas
Trier/Dotson
Kyrie/Frank/DSJ
We'd have a spot for our 1st round pick. That brings us to 11 players. We have a second round pick or vet mins after that. I think this is correct.
Zion would fit perfect in this lineup and allow KD to bounce back and forth between the 3 and 4 positions. One can only hope. This team definitely needs help though. I wonder what kind of vets we could get to come in on vet min deals to really help out.
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then I think someone posted that we get a "room" exception for $4.6 mil. I think that is the best we can offer.
I realize some guys have gone it to ring chase but that seems exceedingly low for Jordan. He's only 30 and still a good player. You never know but that would be pretty wild.
Oh, it is extremely low for him. Odds are it won't happen but I think that is the best we can offer. But I am no cap expert.
Check Trae Young over the past 20+ games. January he averaged 19 and 7, 4 boards on 34% from 3 (not great but creeping up) and now in Feb 22, 9 and 5 (3 games) on 39% from 3. Considering the kid is 2 months younger than Frank, I'm pretty confident at worst he's a good NBA player if not more. And for all this talk about his defensive issues.. his dRtg is 116... Frank career? 113...
Good, hope someone bites. DSJ for Bamba would be fantastic. Maybe sweeten the deal with some 2nd round picks if we acquire them
Wonder if they would take Frank instead of DSJ
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for Bamba really makes a lot of sense. Orlando reportedly wanted DSJ and have Bamba available so...
Wonder if they would take Frank instead of DSJ
I doubt it. They reportedly coveted DSJ which is why Bamba for DSJ (now that we have DSJ) actually makes sense for both sides.
Young's calling card coming into the league was supposed to be his shooting. The fact that he is playing as well as he as thus far, and only shooting low 30s from 3, should make Atlanta very optimistic about his future prospects. You figure at some point the shooting % is going to rise back to the mean making him even more dangerous.
Per the article he will be allowed to rejoin the team once the deadline passes.
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for Bamba really makes a lot of sense. Orlando reportedly wanted DSJ and have Bamba available so...
Wonder if they would take Frank instead of DSJ
I doubt it. They reportedly coveted DSJ which is why Bamba for DSJ (now that we have DSJ) actually makes sense for both sides.
Sounds fair. I'd do that.
Harder to find, perfect complimentary player to two max contract stars. Same with keeping Frank over DSJ, if that’s what it would take to get him.
Just 2 trips to the finals in the last 45 years? For a New York team? They are the joke of the NBA, year after year.....
Caz, Bill, Earl, Walt, Willis.....distant memories....
Maybe getting Ewing was the kiss of death for this franchise?
Fresh take.
Bamba has quietly been very good all things considered. WS/48 .098. Frank has been awful and DSJ is extremely flawed. Odds are very low either is the starting PG for a title contender. Bamba very possibly could be that given his defense and rebounding
...and I like Dotson.
You're not wrong, but if Irving comes here, he'll be expendable
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I don't love Smith but he's got more upside at a high value position and he's insanely young. We quit far too early on players in the NBA for unknown reasons. He's nowhere near a finished product.
You're not wrong, but if Irving comes here, he'll be expendable
you know you will need a backup point...
i also thjnk frank becomes more valuable on a winning team
1) Pick up draft picks (2nd rounder all can hope for)
2) Do not take back any guaranteed money for 2019-20
3) Do not add any players that will contribute positive on-court performance this year
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I don’t know if I agree that Young is “legit”. He’s getting better as the season goes on but he’s shooting 30% from 3 and he’s such a net negative on defense that he’s got to be one hell of an offensive player to justify that. Most rookies struggle on defense but he just doesn’t have the size, length or athleticism to ever become a serviceable defender imo.
Check Trae Young over the past 20+ games. January he averaged 19 and 7, 4 boards on 34% from 3 (not great but creeping up) and now in Feb 22, 9 and 5 (3 games) on 39% from 3. Considering the kid is 2 months younger than Frank, I'm pretty confident at worst he's a good NBA player if not more. And for all this talk about his defensive issues.. his dRtg is 116... Frank career? 113...
He's hot right now but so was Knox a few months ago. Maybe he keeps it up, maybe he doesn't. I guess that's to say, I'm not ready to say either way what Young is. Regarding his defense, dRtg is a flawed stat. Not criticizing your use of it because there isn't really a great way to measure defensive impact but iirc, dRtg measures defensive impact using steals/blocks/defensive rebounds and your team's total points allowed when you're on the floor. Frank has spent two years playing with atrocious defensive players.
I pay $5 for Cleaning The Glass, looking quickly at Frank vs Young, the opposing team's eFG% is higher with Young on the floor vs off whereas both this year and last it's lower when Frank's in the game. Ditto for transition points. Further, last year the Knicks allowed 2.5 less pts/possesion with Frank on the floor, Atl allows 2.1 more with Young on the floor, Frank 1.1 this year.
I won't argue Frank has been nearly as good on defense this year as he was last year. He's mostly average to poor out there. Personally I think it's mental due to his struggles on offense but that's another conversation. Anyways, I don't mean to be argumentative and hope it's not received as such. I just enjoy geeking out over this stuff.
There are two reasons I think. The first is that Vucevic has been fantastic and they would like to resign him. The second is that the Magic have been an abomination when Isaac and Bamba are on the floor at the same time which wasn't expected at least on defense given the length of both guys. Since Bamba was a more recent pick, my guess is they feel like they can get more for him than Isaac at this point. Either that or they prefer Isaac.
Well I read a lot of folks here talking about adding young assets... so not everyone agrees.
Also a bit worried about the reports out there saying Knicks will just hold on to Matthews and Jordan. Hoping that's just trying to get leverage... but if they really do, just gotta hope Fizdale gives them the Kanter treatment.
I'm not sure how many wins the Knicks can afford. The Suns are not playing around...
- If I’m the Lakers I would offer all the young guys and 4 1sts. But if I’m trading 4 1sts I’m not taking back Solomon Hill. Lakers would be very dangerous this summer with Lebron and AD with cap space. And there is risk for the Pelicans in waiting.
"AD is good!" Ball said. "But he's not a winner. How many playoff games has he won? He's been in the league a long time, there's a difference between players and winners."