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NFT: Knicks Chat: More moves? Knicks done?

DanMetroMan : 2/5/2019 9:11 am

-58 mins ago – via Sporting News
Saric could find himself on the trade block by Thursday. The Wolves likely would prefer to wait until the offseason to make a trade involving what was supposed to be the most valuable piece they got in return for Butler, but according to one league executive, “He could be had for a decent offer, a first-rounder and a player.”

-58 mins ago – via ESPN
Brian Windhorst: Jeremy Lin is out there. I think there is a good chance Jeremy Lin is going to get traded to somebody who needs a quality guard.

(Linsanity aside, Jeremy Lin is a solid NBA guard. People often refuse to acknowledge this given his time here. Don't look now but the Hawks could be a team to watch quicker than we think. TONS of picks, Trae Young is legit, Collins is one of the most underrated young bigs in the league, Huerter is having a solid age 20 season. I'm not saying it happens overnight but they are a team to watch.

-Brian Windhorst mentioned that New York plans to keep the two-time NBA rebounding leader, though many have expected Jordan to end up as a buyout candidate (via ESPN):

“One thing I’ll say about the Knicks: they’re making it look like they intend to keep DeAndre Jordan. You can extrapolate this out: [He] has a relationship with Kevin Durant. Although I don’t know how [the Knicks can retain the big man]. I mean, they can’t keep him at any real number.”

But one more-modern legend says that Harden’s ball-dominant style during the streak, while impressive and perhaps even necessary, will not help the Rockets win an NBA title. Surprisingly that legend is Kobe Bryant “I’m not a fan of in terms of winning championships, I don’t think that style is ever going to win championships,” Bryant, the former Los Angeles Lakers star said in a clip released from an upcoming episode of ESPN’s “The Jump.” – via USA Today Sports

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DanMetroMan : 2/5/2019 4:21 pm : link

think best case is Frank turns into Beverley 2.0. We keep hearing about his age (21 in July) but he was a professional in France and simply doesn't have the skills/athletic tools to be a big time offensive talent. His best shot is improving on his 3 ball to the point that's a major weapon. He's a mediocre ball handler for the position, okay passer. It's hard to identify areas where he's ever going to be "strong" offensively. Beverley has had a nice career, I think that's the upside you're looking at with Frank (best realistic case).

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Strahan91 : 2/5/2019 4:25 pm : link

. More likely though is that some other team with more patience figures out how to develop Frank into a solid but unspectacular NBA player.

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DanMetroMan : 2/5/2019 4:33 pm : link

just very disappointing/strange how a guy like Fizdale, who seemingly would eat up a player like Frank seemingly has very little interest in developing him. Not sure if that's on Fizdale or Frank is that underwhelming?

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Dave on the UWS : 2/5/2019 4:33 pm : link

for 2 decades. However it’s becoming incredibly clear that this management team has a clue. And THAT is the reason they have a REAL shot at FA this summer. AND I can see them putting together a competitive package for Davis. It would have been great if Porzingas was the cornerstone we thought. But it’s obvious now that it wasn’t meant to be.

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Greg from LI : 2/5/2019 4:39 pm : link

Just horrific. Can't blame Fizdale for that. He was a wasted pick. Move on.

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Enzo : 2/5/2019 4:41 pm : link

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or Marcus Smart. Which would be less than ideal but ultimately fine.

I guess Bamba is staying put. Â

Strahan91 : 2/5/2019 4:41 pm : link

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Orlando Magic rookie center Mo Bamba will miss significant time with a stress fracture in his lower left leg, league sources tell ESPN. For now, there's no expectation that he will need surgery.

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Shecky : 2/5/2019 4:50 pm : link

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In the minds of Knicks fans, I think his value shot up if he can’t help win this season...

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DanMetroMan : 2/5/2019 4:58 pm : link

to be clear, Pat Bev has had a nice career, I'm not saying he sucks, he has value but that's the kind of player I think we have to realistically pray for. There is XYZ you look for in a player and Frank is missing key components. Obviously Pat Bev (in his prime) backup up Irving would be a great combo.

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DanMetroMan : 2/5/2019 5:08 pm : link

The Lakers haven’t made a satisfactory trade offer for Anthony Davis. It seems the Pelicans just don’t care much for Los Angeles’ young players.

Rather, New Orleans would probably rather wait for Celtics forward Jayson Tatum. Tatum went No. 3 in the 2017 NBA draft – one spot after the Lakers took Lonzo Ball.

How did the Lakers make that decision?
Stephen A. Smith of ESPN:

What I’m about to say, Magic Johnson would categorically probably deny. That’s my friend, my brother. I love him. If Magic Johnson was sitting next to me on national television and he said opposite or contrary to what I’m about to tell you, I’d tell him, “That’s a d— lie, and you know it.”

Magic Johnson would not have drafted Lonzo Ball if were not for Jeanie Buss.

Jeanie Buss needed a box-office draw. LaVar Ball, the marketing wizard that he is, put his son in our minds’ eye, had us thinking this brother out of Chino Hills starring for UCLA is going to be special in the pros.

Nate Jones:

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It’s 100% true that Magic wanted Fox, not Ball. I’ve said that several times.

The Lakers have been dysfunctional for quite awhile. Â

bceagle05 : 2/5/2019 5:15 pm : link

Dealing with Lebron's decline could get ugly.

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Oscar : 2/5/2019 6:39 pm : link

It makes no sense to sell low on a second year player who was always going to be a project. Particularly when the fucking team is 10-42. You can trade Frank for a bag of peanuts any time, it makes a lot more sense to see how he progresses at least into early next season.

Also the idea that Knicks fans in general are killing the kid is totally off the mark. People are frustrated but rooting for him, hell he seems like the most popular player on the team for a large chunk of the fanbase. There are Frank Stans everywhere. I am admittedly one of them, but even those of you who have given up fail to make even a remotely compelling case for trading him.

Frank, Knox, DSJ and Mitch are basically the only players who should be prioritized the rest of this season. Everyone else will be gone soon.

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nygiants16 : 2/5/2019 6:43 pm : link

blew off a pr event today

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DanMetroMan : 2/5/2019 7:22 pm : link

Is even the coach seems down on him. The coach lauded for his working with young players. Moved on to pending FA Mudiay with the quickness even with the season long over. Maybe Fizdale is wrong but hard to argue the organization doesn't seem all that excited by Frank's prospects and that's a bigger issue than what fans or detractors think. His season has gone as poorly as one could have possibly predicted. Nobody is saying just give him away for nothing but I get the feeling from their actions and comments from both Fizdale and Mills that Frank is not viewed as highly as maybe he once was.

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yatqb : 2/5/2019 7:32 pm : link

athlete I can ever recall. That's not a good prescription for a PG. Having a pretty awful and inconsistent shot doesn't help either.

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PhiPsi125 : 2/5/2019 8:08 pm : link

Another stellar move by Phil Jackson.

Jackson was so bad it’s almost like he came to NY to purposely screw the franchise. Jackson is the most overrated basketball figure of all time.

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DanMetroMan : 2/5/2019 8:23 pm : link

Says Davis wanted to come here but KP killed it by refusing to commit to NO

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nygiants16 : 2/5/2019 8:42 pm : link

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Says Davis wanted to come here but KP killed it by refusing to commit to NO

If true says alot about who davis thinks is coming

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In the minds of Knicks fans, I think his value shot up if he can’t help win this season...

Absolutely!! Was just about to post this.

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