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Bench going crazy. Terrible culture, just terrible.

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figures out what he is doing. There's talent on this roster. It needs developing

In comment 14288453 bceagle05 said:

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Bench going crazy. Terrible culture, just terrible.

Culture only means something positive when it comes to the Nets, apparently. They’ve cornered the market on “culture”.

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I guess he's been good over the years but I can't recall having seen him play much. Right now he's our starting 2.

In comment 14288464 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 14288453 bceagle05 said: Quote: Bench going crazy. Terrible culture, just terrible. Culture only means something positive when it comes to the Nets, apparently. They’ve cornered the market on “culture”.

yup and all those superstars that want to go there

But Mitch with 13-5 and +6 in 8 minutes on 6-7 shooting.

Frank and Vonleh and Dallas protected pick for Bamba ( maybe that’s too much)

DeAndre Jordan to Bucks for Teletovic And Smith and Thon Maker

Matthews to 76ers for Chandler and Muscala and Zhaire Smith

Bamba and Franks salaries even out for next year so cap isn’t affected

Zaire Smith and Thon Maker add about 7 million to next years cap

In comment 14288487 Earl the goat said:

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Frank and Vonleh and Dallas protected pick for Bamba ( maybe that’s too much) DeAndre Jordan to Bucks for Teletovic And Smith and Thon Maker Matthews to 76ers for Chandler and Muscala and Zhaire Smith Bamba and Franks salaries even out for next year so cap isn’t affected Zaire Smith and Thon Maker add about 7 million to next years cap

Bamba has a stress fracture in his foot. Big guy + foot issues = be cautious.

In comment 14288423 Del Shofner said:

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the Knicks have no real answer for.

True, that.

In comment 14288488 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 14288487 Earl the goat said: Quote: Frank and Vonleh and Dallas protected pick for Bamba ( maybe that’s too much) DeAndre Jordan to Bucks for Teletovic And Smith and Thon Maker Matthews to 76ers for Chandler and Muscala and Zhaire Smith Bamba and Franks salaries even out for next year so cap isn’t affected Zaire Smith and Thon Maker add about 7 million to next years cap Bamba has a stress fracture in his foot. Big guy + foot issues = be cautious.

Yes. I saw that. But I think he’s worth the risk

Bamba and Robinson 25 minutes a night at the 5
Lots of defense and blocks and rebounds plus playing the pick and roll on both ends

In comment 14288492 Earl the goat said:

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In comment 14288488 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: In comment 14288487 Earl the goat said: Quote: Frank and Vonleh and Dallas protected pick for Bamba ( maybe that’s too much) DeAndre Jordan to Bucks for Teletovic And Smith and Thon Maker Matthews to 76ers for Chandler and Muscala and Zhaire Smith Bamba and Franks salaries even out for next year so cap isn’t affected Zaire Smith and Thon Maker add about 7 million to next years cap Bamba has a stress fracture in his foot. Big guy + foot issues = be cautious. Yes. I saw that. But I think he’s worth the risk Bamba and Robinson 25 minutes a night at the 5 Lots of defense and blocks and rebounds plus playing the pick and roll on both ends

No way am I giving up a first plus those players for him.

that's a horrible trade

In comment 14288497 adamg said:

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that's a horrible trade

Yep too much. Take out the pick

on both sides

I feel like we kind of fleeced DAL. KP was more trouble than he was worth.

that's not good.

In comment 14288503 Del Shofner said:

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that's not good.

Well, Mitch has to teach him something!

bad call.

In comment 14288502 adamg said:

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I feel like we kind of fleeced DAL. KP was more trouble than he was worth.

To be fair....hes Steve Francis II.

will bring out the best in Smith

In comment 14288515 chopperhatch said:

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In comment 14288502 adamg said: Quote: I feel like we kind of fleeced DAL. KP was more trouble than he was worth. To be fair....hes Steve Francis II.

He's only 21.

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In comment 14288502 adamg said: Quote: I feel like we kind of fleeced DAL. KP was more trouble than he was worth. To be fair....hes Steve Francis II.

steve francis was a hell of a player in his prime, if henis steve francis i will take it

pretty good early on

How the hell is that an offensive foul? Fuck you ref.

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How the hell is that an offensive foul? Fuck you ref.

Not the first one either.

i would be pissed, holy shit are the refs blind

Feels like he wasn't out there long for that.

In comment 14288441 Earl the goat said:

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Smith is hands down so much better And with Mudiay and Trier and Dotson there won’t be enough minutes for Frank

He is on the trade block - but I don't think any team wants him. What was Phil Jackson thinking?

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Here is my take and this has nothing to do with his upside. It is just what I see now. He is a SG trying to play PG. He doesn't have the best handle and he is kind of clueless with what it takes to be a PG. Way too many times he is out of control with his dribble and then inexplicably leaves his feet like he is going to shoot but then passes it. I've never seen someone leave their feet so much and then pass it. This doesn't mean he cannot be a PG but he has a lot of work to do in that area.

In comment 14288531 GeofromNJ said:

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In comment 14288441 Earl the goat said: Quote: Smith is hands down so much better And with Mudiay and Trier and Dotson there won’t be enough minutes for Frank He is on the trade block - but I don't think any team wants him. What was Phil Jackson thinking?

I think Phil Jackson found out that what it feels like to work when he wasn’t gifted multiple HOFers on his team. And the realization that he’s not very good at what he does without them.

he is still learning how to be scorer and passer and run the offense all at the same time...

He makes some nice passes, probably should of had 10 or more assists tonight, but sometimes he gets into the lane and losses track of where his guys are...

He has great vision and he can get to the rim at will, just has to put it all together

In comment 14288528 adamg said:

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Feels like he wasn't out there long for that.

He had 5 fouls by early in the 3rd quarter.

Wonder what the roster will look like.

Smith should be in the gym just working on his jumper, he can start shooting the 3 his offensive game will be unstoppable but you saw in the 4th pistons just sagged off of him

In comment 14288539 bceagle05 said:

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Wonder what the roster will look like.

smith matthews dotson anthony davis jordan

fans chanted at Ingram "Lebron's gonna trade you" lol

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In comment 14288522 Dave on the UWS said:

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pretty good a pretty good scorer early on

Fixed...

Listen, you guys are far more tuned into the league these days than I am. But being fair, I still know the game and a player like Steve Franchise in his prime is not who you want on your squad if you are looking to woo a guy like KD or want Trier and Knox to progress as players.

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Dennis Smith Jr became the youngest Knick to post at least 25 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists

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In comment 14288580 chopperhatch said:

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In comment 14288522 Dave on the UWS said: Quote: pretty good a pretty good scorer early on Fixed... Listen, you guys are far more tuned into the league these days than I am. But being fair, I still know the game and a player like Steve Franchise in his prime is not who you want on your squad if you are looking to woo a guy like KD or want Trier and Knox to progress as players.

Francis was a 3 time All-Star, was top 10 in the league in Win Shares twice, and led the league in VORP once, all within the first 5 years of his career. He was a very good player, that was never the issue with him. The problem with Steve Francis was that he battled with injuries and fell off a cliff at age 26.

If Dennis Smith ends up as good as prime Steve Francis the Knicks made out like bandits in that trade.

... DSJ, can drive at will, but will need to create more to justify playing him with the two max guys, if we get them. We will need someone who can play within the offense.. don't know if he is that guy.

Or like 4-5 years away from what should be his prime.

In comment 14288531 GeofromNJ said:

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In comment 14288441 Earl the goat said: Quote: Smith is hands down so much better And with Mudiay and Trier and Dotson there won’t be enough minutes for Frank////////// He is on the trade block - but I don't think any team wants him. What was Phil Jackson thinking?

GeofromNJ has put his finger on classic BBI bifurcated thinking. Most of BBI NYK fans are done with Frank (send him to Development League)(me too, he can't shoot, period), but think by including him in a trade, Knicks will get value back, as if Frank had trade value. LOL

In comment 14288646 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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Or like 4-5 years away from what should be his prime.

Unfortunately the NBA doesn't work like that. The majority of good/very good players are showing real development/flashes as a rookie, and certainly years 2 or 3 regardless of "only being 21". It's very unusual for a player to suddenly become that 4-5 years into a career. It happens but unlike other sports you can usually "tell" .