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NFT: 7:30 @ MSG - Pistons vs. Knicks - woo hoo!

Del Shofner : 2/5/2019 7:19 pm
Well, might as well see what happens. Sounds like Mitch will be back tonight, but no Frank or Mudiay.
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Robinson with 10 points already  
adamg : 2/5/2019 8:13 pm : link
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Mitch!  
adamg : 2/5/2019 8:15 pm : link
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Mitch!  
bceagle05 : 2/5/2019 8:16 pm : link
Bench going crazy. Terrible culture, just terrible.
trier is so strong finishing at the rim  
nygiants16 : 2/5/2019 8:16 pm : link
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That was a nice shot by Trier  
adamg : 2/5/2019 8:16 pm : link
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Wait until Robinson  
Dave on the UWS : 2/5/2019 8:21 pm : link
figures out what he is doing. There's talent on this roster. It needs developing
RE: Mitch!  
PhiPsi125 : 2/5/2019 8:22 pm : link
In comment 14288453 bceagle05 said:
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Bench going crazy. Terrible culture, just terrible.


Culture only means something positive when it comes to the Nets, apparently. Theyve cornered the market on culture.
Lance helping the tank  
adamg : 2/5/2019 8:23 pm : link
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Wes Matthews not impressing me so far -  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2019 8:32 pm : link
I guess he's been good over the years but I can't recall having seen him play much. Right now he's our starting 2.
RE: RE: Mitch!  
nygiants16 : 2/5/2019 8:41 pm : link
In comment 14288464 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 14288453 bceagle05 said:


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Bench going crazy. Terrible culture, just terrible.



Culture only means something positive when it comes to the Nets, apparently. Theyve cornered the market on culture.


yup and all those superstars that want to go there
eh, down at the half.  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2019 8:41 pm : link
But Mitch with 13-5 and +6 in 8 minutes on 6-7 shooting.
Some mock trades for the Knicks  
Earl the goat : 2/5/2019 8:45 pm : link
Frank and Vonleh and Dallas protected pick for Bamba ( maybe thats too much)

DeAndre Jordan to Bucks for Teletovic And Smith and Thon Maker

Matthews to 76ers for Chandler and Muscala and Zhaire Smith

Bamba and Franks salaries even out for next year so cap isnt affected

Zaire Smith and Thon Maker add about 7 million to next years cap
RE: Some mock trades for the Knicks  
robbieballs2003 : 2/5/2019 8:46 pm : link
In comment 14288487 Earl the goat said:
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Frank and Vonleh and Dallas protected pick for Bamba ( maybe thats too much)

DeAndre Jordan to Bucks for Teletovic And Smith and Thon Maker

Matthews to 76ers for Chandler and Muscala and Zhaire Smith

Bamba and Franks salaries even out for next year so cap isnt affected

Zaire Smith and Thon Maker add about 7 million to next years cap


Bamba has a stress fracture in his foot. Big guy + foot issues = be cautious.
RE: Griffin and Drummond are both guys  
GeofromNJ : 2/5/2019 8:50 pm : link
In comment 14288423 Del Shofner said:
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the Knicks have no real answer for.

True, that.
RE: RE: Some mock trades for the Knicks  
Earl the goat : 2/5/2019 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14288488 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14288487 Earl the goat said:


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Frank and Vonleh and Dallas protected pick for Bamba ( maybe thats too much)

DeAndre Jordan to Bucks for Teletovic And Smith and Thon Maker

Matthews to 76ers for Chandler and Muscala and Zhaire Smith

Bamba and Franks salaries even out for next year so cap isnt affected

Zaire Smith and Thon Maker add about 7 million to next years cap



Bamba has a stress fracture in his foot. Big guy + foot issues = be cautious.


Yes. I saw that. But I think hes worth the risk

Bamba and Robinson 25 minutes a night at the 5
Lots of defense and blocks and rebounds plus playing the pick and roll on both ends
RE: RE: RE: Some mock trades for the Knicks  
robbieballs2003 : 2/5/2019 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14288492 Earl the goat said:
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In comment 14288487 Earl the goat said:


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Frank and Vonleh and Dallas protected pick for Bamba ( maybe thats too much)

DeAndre Jordan to Bucks for Teletovic And Smith and Thon Maker

Matthews to 76ers for Chandler and Muscala and Zhaire Smith

Bamba and Franks salaries even out for next year so cap isnt affected

Zaire Smith and Thon Maker add about 7 million to next years cap



Bamba has a stress fracture in his foot. Big guy + foot issues = be cautious.



Yes. I saw that. But I think hes worth the risk

Bamba and Robinson 25 minutes a night at the 5
Lots of defense and blocks and rebounds plus playing the pick and roll on both ends


No way am I giving up a first plus those players for him.
Yeah  
adamg : 2/5/2019 9:00 pm : link
that's a horrible trade
RE: Yeah  
Earl the goat : 2/5/2019 9:02 pm : link
In comment 14288497 adamg said:
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that's a horrible trade


Yep too much. Take out the pick
Knox looking heads up  
adamg : 2/5/2019 9:04 pm : link
on both sides
If Smith looks like this most nights  
adamg : 2/5/2019 9:06 pm : link
I feel like we kind of fleeced DAL. KP was more trouble than he was worth.
Jordan with 5 fouls -  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2019 9:07 pm : link
that's not good.
RE: Jordan with 5 fouls -  
Anakim : 2/5/2019 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14288503 Del Shofner said:
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that's not good.


Well, Mitch has to teach him something!
not an offensive foul on Knox -  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2019 9:09 pm : link
bad call.
RE: If Smith looks like this most nights  
chopperhatch : 2/5/2019 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14288502 adamg said:
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I feel like we kind of fleeced DAL. KP was more trouble than he was worth.


To be fair....hes Steve Francis II.
I think Fizdale  
Dave on the UWS : 2/5/2019 9:21 pm : link
will bring out the best in Smith
RE: RE: If Smith looks like this most nights  
adamg : 2/5/2019 9:24 pm : link
In comment 14288515 chopperhatch said:
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I feel like we kind of fleeced DAL. KP was more trouble than he was worth.



To be fair....hes Steve Francis II.


He's only 21.
RE: RE: If Smith looks like this most nights  
nygiants16 : 2/5/2019 9:24 pm : link
In comment 14288515 chopperhatch said:
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I feel like we kind of fleeced DAL. KP was more trouble than he was worth.



To be fair....hes Steve Francis II.


steve francis was a hell of a player in his prime, if henis steve francis i will take it
Umm Francis was  
Dave on the UWS : 2/5/2019 9:27 pm : link
pretty good early on
Allen got fucked  
adamg : 2/5/2019 9:29 pm : link
How the hell is that an offensive foul? Fuck you ref.
RE: Allen got fucked  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2019 9:31 pm : link
In comment 14288524 adamg said:
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How the hell is that an offensive foul? Fuck you ref.


Not the first one either.
if i cared about the knicks winning  
nygiants16 : 2/5/2019 9:42 pm : link
i would be pissed, holy shit are the refs blind
How many minutes did Jordan get?  
adamg : 2/5/2019 9:42 pm : link
Feels like he wasn't out there long for that.
RE: I hope Frank is on the trade block  
GeofromNJ : 2/5/2019 9:50 pm : link
In comment 14288441 Earl the goat said:
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Smith is hands down so much better
And with Mudiay and Trier and Dotson there wont be enough minutes for Frank

He is on the trade block - but I don't think any team wants him. What was Phil Jackson thinking?
10-43.  
bceagle05 : 2/5/2019 9:53 pm : link
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DSJ  
robbieballs2003 : 2/5/2019 9:56 pm : link
Here is my take and this has nothing to do with his upside. It is just what I see now. He is a SG trying to play PG. He doesn't have the best handle and he is kind of clueless with what it takes to be a PG. Way too many times he is out of control with his dribble and then inexplicably leaves his feet like he is going to shoot but then passes it. I've never seen someone leave their feet so much and then pass it. This doesn't mean he cannot be a PG but he has a lot of work to do in that area.
RE: RE: I hope Frank is on the trade block  
PhiPsi125 : 2/5/2019 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14288531 GeofromNJ said:
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Smith is hands down so much better
And with Mudiay and Trier and Dotson there wont be enough minutes for Frank


He is on the trade block - but I don't think any team wants him. What was Phil Jackson thinking?


I think Phil Jackson found out that what it feels like to work when he wasnt gifted multiple HOFers on his team. And the realization that hes not very good at what he does without them.
with smith  
nygiants16 : 2/5/2019 10:01 pm : link
he is still learning how to be scorer and passer and run the offense all at the same time...

He makes some nice passes, probably should of had 10 or more assists tonight, but sometimes he gets into the lane and losses track of where his guys are...

He has great vision and he can get to the rim at will, just has to put it all together
RE: How many minutes did Jordan get?  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2019 10:02 pm : link
In comment 14288528 adamg said:
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Feels like he wasn't out there long for that.


He had 5 fouls by early in the 3rd quarter.
Next game is Friday night.  
bceagle05 : 2/5/2019 10:04 pm : link
Wonder what the roster will look like.
also this summer  
nygiants16 : 2/5/2019 10:05 pm : link
Smith should be in the gym just working on his jumper, he can start shooting the 3 his offensive game will be unstoppable but you saw in the 4th pistons just sagged off of him
RE: Next game is Friday night.  
nygiants16 : 2/5/2019 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14288539 bceagle05 said:
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Wonder what the roster will look like.


smith matthews dotson anthony davis jordan
Pacers  
DanMetroMan : 2/5/2019 11:03 pm : link
fans chanted at Ingram "Lebron's gonna trade you" lol
.  
DanMetroMan : 2/5/2019 11:07 pm : link


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The Los Angles Lakers are poised to make a trade...just not that trade. According to a league source, Lakers are close to acquiring Reggie Bullock from the Pistons for Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk.
RE: Umm Francis was  
chopperhatch : 2/5/2019 11:11 pm : link
In comment 14288522 Dave on the UWS said:
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pretty good a pretty good scorer early on


Fixed...

Listen, you guys are far more tuned into the league these days than I am. But being fair, I still know the game and a player like Steve Franchise in his prime is not who you want on your squad if you are looking to woo a guy like KD or want Trier and Knox to progress as players.
.  
adamg : 2/5/2019 11:46 pm : link
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Dennis Smith Jr became the youngest Knick to post at least 25 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists

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RE: RE: Umm Francis was  
Mike in NJ : 2/5/2019 11:46 pm : link
In comment 14288580 chopperhatch said:
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pretty good a pretty good scorer early on



Fixed...

Listen, you guys are far more tuned into the league these days than I am. But being fair, I still know the game and a player like Steve Franchise in his prime is not who you want on your squad if you are looking to woo a guy like KD or want Trier and Knox to progress as players.


Francis was a 3 time All-Star, was top 10 in the league in Win Shares twice, and led the league in VORP once, all within the first 5 years of his career. He was a very good player, that was never the issue with him. The problem with Steve Francis was that he battled with injuries and fell off a cliff at age 26.

If Dennis Smith ends up as good as prime Steve Francis the Knicks made out like bandits in that trade.
The game changed around guys like Francis and Marbury  
RAIN : 2/6/2019 1:37 am : link
... DSJ, can drive at will, but will need to create more to justify playing him with the two max guys, if we get them. We will need someone who can play within the offense.. don't know if he is that guy.

He's 21  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2019 8:31 am : link
Or like 4-5 years away from what should be his prime.

RE: RE: I hope Frank is on the trade block  
ColHowPepper : 2/6/2019 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14288531 GeofromNJ said:
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In comment 14288441 Earl the goat said:
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Smith is hands down so much better And with Mudiay and Trier and Dotson there wont be enough minutes for Frank//////////

He is on the trade block - but I don't think any team wants him. What was Phil Jackson thinking?
GeofromNJ has put his finger on classic BBI bifurcated thinking. Most of BBI NYK fans are done with Frank (send him to Development League)(me too, he can't shoot, period), but think by including him in a trade, Knicks will get value back, as if Frank had trade value. LOL
RE: He's 21  
DanMetroMan : 2/6/2019 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14288646 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Or like 4-5 years away from what should be his prime.


Unfortunately the NBA doesn't work like that. The majority of good/very good players are showing real development/flashes as a rookie, and certainly years 2 or 3 regardless of "only being 21". It's very unusual for a player to suddenly become that 4-5 years into a career. It happens but unlike other sports you can usually "tell" .
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