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DanMetroMan : 2/6/2019 9:07 am
-If the Clippers can move Gallinari they will have even more cap room than the Knicks.
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Wiz should actually have a kind of interesting young...  
Italianju : 2/6/2019 7:47 pm : link
starting 5. Sato, Beal, Oubre, Portis, and bryant. That oubre for Ariza deal was so dumb for them.
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Anakim : 2/6/2019 7:57 pm : link
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Houston, Cleveland and Sacramento completing a three-way deal that will send Iman Shumpert to the Rockets, league sources tell ESPN.
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Anakim : 2/6/2019 8:01 pm : link
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Houston, Cleveland and Sacramento completing a three-way deal that will send Iman Shumpert to the Rockets, league sources tell ESPN.


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Cleveland is trading Alec Burks and a second round pick to Sacramento in exchange for Iman Shumpert as part of a 3-team package that includes Houston, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
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Cleveland will send Alec Burks to the Kings, and Rockets send Brandon Knight, Marquese Chriss and a protected first to Cavaliers, sources tell ESPN.
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Anakim : 2/6/2019 8:18 pm : link
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Cleveland will send Alec Burks to the Kings, and Rockets send Brandon Knight, Marquese Chriss and a protected first to Cavaliers, sources tell ESPN.



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Cleveland will send Nik Stauskas and Wade Baldwin to the Rockets in the three-way deal, league source tells ESPN. Cavaliers acquired those two guards in Sunday's trade with Portland that sent Rodney Hood to the Blazers.
From Berman:  
Anakim : 2/6/2019 8:20 pm : link
"If the Knicks can’t trade the large contracts of center Enes Kanter and swingman Wes Matthews for an expiring contract and a draft pick before the 3 p.m. deadline, the players are expected to be waived or bought out, according to a source.

They each make a difficult-to-move $18.6 million, but a league source said the Knicks still are still exploring trade options."
a bit of a miller here, but watching Bucks-Wizards I am struck by  
Del Shofner : 2/6/2019 9:37 pm : link
how may excellent 3-point shooters there are in the NBA, whereas there isn't really even one on the Knicks.
according to stein  
nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 9:53 pm : link
Anthony davis has the knicks on equal footing with lakers on his list of teams he wants to sign long term with
RE: according to stein  
Strahan91 : 2/6/2019 9:55 pm : link
In comment 14289429 nygiants16 said:
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Anthony davis has the knicks on equal footing with lakers on his list of teams he wants to sign long term with

But the Knicks are toxic and such 🤔
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bceagle05 : 2/6/2019 9:56 pm : link
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Anthony Davis has the Knicks on equal footing with the Lakers in terms of teams he is interested in signing with long-term, @NYTSports has learned. The Clippers and Bucks also remain preferred destinations on his list.

A guy desperate to win wants to join a 10-43 team that just traded it's best young player. Hmmmm...
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nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 9:58 pm : link
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Anthony Davis has the Knicks on equal footing with the Lakers in terms of teams he is interested in signing with long-term, @NYTSports has learned. The Clippers and Bucks also remain preferred destinations on his list.


A guy desperate to win wants to join a 10-43 team that just traded it's best young player. Hmmmm...


do you trade for him now, sign durant and a slightly lesser player rather than wait and try and sign durant and kyrie?

i think i trade for davis now if you can
I'd probably trade for him now too  
bceagle05 : 2/6/2019 10:04 pm : link
but I can't blame the Knicks either way. He'd make it a lot easier on us if he'd sign right away.
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nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 10:06 pm : link
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but I can't blame the Knicks either way. He'd make it a lot easier on us if he'd sign right away.


part of me feels like he is leaking this so knicks will make a trade now, but i could be reading to much into it...

feels weird that this is being leaked now when it has been lakers and really only lakers even though knicks were on his list...

even woj started mentioning the knicks...
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nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 10:11 pm : link
kanter, lance, hezonja, knox, frank, 2019 first, 2 mavs picks and another future first for davis and hill..

still would be roughly 55 million under
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DanMetroMan : 2/6/2019 10:17 pm : link
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The Kings are trading Justin Jackson and Zach Randolph to the Mavericks for Harrison Barnes, league sources tell ESPN.
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assuming Powell picks up his option, Dallas' pick conveys to Atlanta, and they keep FA holds for DFS, Kleber and Kristaps, i have the Mavs at $30.9 million in cap space this summer.

that's roughly one renouncement/Justin Jackson trade away from max-contract territory.
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DanMetroMan : 2/6/2019 10:24 pm : link
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The Mavs have the most exciting teenager since LeBron, a player friendly owner and now are also big game hunters.

I can’t remember a summer in which this many desirable spots were legitimate max contract contenders.

This summer is about to blow 2000 and 2010 out of the water.
I don't  
Jon in NYC : 2/6/2019 10:26 pm : link
see any reason the Pelicans would trade AD now. Every offer they get will improve in the summer.

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TyreeHelmet : 2/6/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14289439 nygiants16 said:
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kanter, lance, hezonja, knox, frank, 2019 first, 2 mavs picks and another future first for davis and hill..

still would be roughly 55 million under


Take out Hill and this is a no brainer. You have 60-65 million in cap space heading into the summer with-

Davis
Robinson
Smith
Trier
Dotson

You add Durant and still have 20-25 mill in cap space. That team immediately becomes a title contender.
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steve in ky : 2/6/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14289439 nygiants16 said:
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kanter, lance, hezonja, knox, frank, 2019 first, 2 mavs picks and another future first for davis and hill..

still would be roughly 55 million under


Giving up Knox, Frank (last two #1's) and four 1st round picks is giving up too much IMO.
How does this make any sense?  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 10:29 pm : link
I want to sign long term but I won't.


Marc Stein: The Pelicans have not yet disclosed their intentions regarding Davis should they elect to keep him past Thursday’s 3 PM deadline. Davis wanted to play in both of New Orleans’ games this week but was understandably held out by the Pelicans

9 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine



Marc Stein: Davis, I’m told, prefers becoming a free agent in July 2020 to signing an extension with any team that acquires him

9 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine



Marc Stein: The Knicks could still try to trade for Davis before the deadline or wait until after the draft lottery in May, when the world will know how strong their top pick in June is. Either way, New York has ample encouragement to pursue a Davis trade before its big free-agent summer

9 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine



Marc Stein: Sources say Davis, meanwhile, remains adamant that he will not sign a long-term deal with Boston if the Celtics trade for him in July and that he would like to play out the rest of the season for the Pelicans if there’s no trade by tomorrow’s deadline

8 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine



Marc Stein: And whether he is traded before Thursday’s 3 PM trade deadline or in the offseason, league sources say, Davis intends to play out the remainder of his current contract and become a free agent in 2020 no matter where he lands.

8 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine



Marc Stein: Anthony Davis has the Knicks on equal footing with the Lakers in terms of teams he is interested in signing with long-term, @NYTSports has learned. The Clippers and Bucks also remain preferred destinations on his list

8 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine

This is great.  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 10:30 pm : link
Rachel Nichols: So I asked @WindhorstESPN if the Pels ever intended to seriously engage with LA on Anthony Davis, or if all the talks & leaks were instead designed to sabotage the young Lakers as revenge for what N.O. sees as tampering, & he said “it’s not just possible, it’s what happened.” 
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nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14289449 TyreeHelmet said:
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kanter, lance, hezonja, knox, frank, 2019 first, 2 mavs picks and another future first for davis and hill..

still would be roughly 55 million under



Take out Hill and this is a no brainer. You have 60-65 million in cap space heading into the summer with-

Davis
Robinson
Smith
Trier
Dotson

You add Durant and still have 20-25 mill in cap space. That team immediately becomes a title contender.


you can stretch hill to hive you more space..
RE: How does this make any sense?  
nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14289451 robbieballs2003 said:
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I want to sign long term but I won't.


Marc Stein: The Pelicans have not yet disclosed their intentions regarding Davis should they elect to keep him past Thursday’s 3 PM deadline. Davis wanted to play in both of New Orleans’ games this week but was understandably held out by the Pelicans

9 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine



Marc Stein: Davis, I’m told, prefers becoming a free agent in July 2020 to signing an extension with any team that acquires him

9 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine



Marc Stein: The Knicks could still try to trade for Davis before the deadline or wait until after the draft lottery in May, when the world will know how strong their top pick in June is. Either way, New York has ample encouragement to pursue a Davis trade before its big free-agent summer

9 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine



Marc Stein: Sources say Davis, meanwhile, remains adamant that he will not sign a long-term deal with Boston if the Celtics trade for him in July and that he would like to play out the rest of the season for the Pelicans if there’s no trade by tomorrow’s deadline

8 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine



Marc Stein: And whether he is traded before Thursday’s 3 PM trade deadline or in the offseason, league sources say, Davis intends to play out the remainder of his current contract and become a free agent in 2020 no matter where he lands.

8 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine



Marc Stein: Anthony Davis has the Knicks on equal footing with the Lakers in terms of teams he is interested in signing with long-term, @NYTSports has learned. The Clippers and Bucks also remain preferred destinations on his list

8 mins ago – via Twitter TheSteinLine


because he can make more waiting
Stretching Hill  
Jon in NYC : 2/6/2019 10:35 pm : link
would give them about 9 more mil, which is still enough to get Durant and Irving.
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robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 10:36 pm : link
In comment 14289455 Jon in NYC said:
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would give them about 9 more mil, which is still enough to get Durant and Irving.


If true then I do that deal.
Lebron's crying to Windhorst again.  
bceagle05 : 2/6/2019 10:37 pm : link
Good for the Pelicans. Now if you REALLY want to stick it to LA, trade AD to the Knicks.
Is it just me or does it seem like the Mavs  
Strahan91 : 2/6/2019 10:38 pm : link
go big game hunting every summer with a max slot?
nygiants16  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 10:39 pm : link
I hope that is all it is. He wants to get traded but him really not being committal could be giving teams pause or not their best offer to get him now just in case.
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Jon in NYC : 2/6/2019 10:41 pm : link
In comment 14289458 Strahan91 said:
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go big game hunting every summer with a max slot?


Yeah and end up with Chandler Parsons, Harrison Barnes and Deandre Jordan.

I'm not worried about them.
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moze1021 : 2/6/2019 10:42 pm : link
In comment 14289459 robbieballs2003 said:
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I hope that is all it is. He wants to get traded but him really not being committal could be giving teams pause or not their best offer to get him now just in case.


If your AD and go to Knicks, you also probably want to make sure they actually land the other guys before you extend....
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robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14289461 moze1021 said:
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I hope that is all it is. He wants to get traded but him really not being committal could be giving teams pause or not their best offer to get him now just in case.



If your AD and go to Knicks, you also probably want to make sure they actually land the other guys before you extend....


I get that. Believe me I do. But I am not talking solely about them. I am talking about other teams. But I agree that it is very interesting that that he specifically mentions the Knicks when we have had the worst winning percentage in the league since like 2003 or some shit.
ESPN's  
MookGiants : 2/6/2019 11:00 pm : link
announcers and studio people have to be on the Lakers payroll at this point. Almost all of them are pushing the narrative that the Pelicans have to take the offer the Lakers made and how they're not sure the Lakers should even be offering that much.

The Lakers offer is hot garbage. It's just a lot of hot garbage. But hot garbage plus hot garbage still equals hot garbage.
Can we just appreciate the trolling job NO is doing to LA?  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 11:07 pm : link
I'm loving it.
The potential  
moespree : 2/6/2019 11:09 pm : link
Of a Knicks teams that has KD, Kyrie and AD is pure insanity. Is this real life?
they also  
MookGiants : 2/6/2019 11:13 pm : link
fail to even mention that there is zero reason for Pelicans to trade him right now. The Lakers offer is going to be on the table the entire off-season. They're not going to suddenly pull the offer, they know its total trash.

The Pelicans gained a lot of leverage if it is indeed true that Davis is willing to sign long term with more than just the Lakers. If that is indeed true I don't see any way he winds up with the Lakers. Multiple teams can beat their offer in their sleep.

If I'm the Pelicans even if he says he will only sign long term with the Lakers I wouldn't trade him to them and i'd make him play out his contract. Yeah, they'd be losing out on the Lakers offer, but the Lakers offer isn't making them anything but at the very best a fringe playoff team. It would be worth more to a smaller market team like that to stand up to a player like Davis and stop letting star players hold teams hostage that they dont want to resign with. One team has to do it soon, and if the best the Pelicans can do is that steaming pile of shit then they should make an example out of Davis and stand up to these assholes. He can do whatever he wants but teams need to start standing up to these guys and not letting them dictate everything. They wouldn't be giving up much if they turned down the Lakers package and made him play out his contract.
RE: Can we just appreciate the trolling job NO is doing to LA?  
bceagle05 : 2/6/2019 11:13 pm : link
In comment 14289468 robbieballs2003 said:
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I'm loving it.

It really is fantastic, though it does keep the Celtics in play. The Laker locker room must be pretty toxic right now.
Strange one...  
bceagle05 : 2/6/2019 11:22 pm : link
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The Wizards are trading Markieff Morris to the Pelicans, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium.
the Celtics  
MookGiants : 2/6/2019 11:32 pm : link
in play would be purely as a rental it seems so who cares. He seems totally against signing there long term
RE: Strange one...  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 11:39 pm : link
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Shams Charania
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The Wizards are trading Markieff Morris to the Pelicans, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium.



I looked it up. This saves money for Washington and NO got a second round pick out of it.
RE: ESPN's  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/7/2019 12:49 am : link
In comment 14289466 MookGiants said:
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announcers and studio people have to be on the Lakers payroll at this point. Almost all of them are pushing the narrative that the Pelicans have to take the offer the Lakers made and how they're not sure the Lakers should even be offering that much.

The Lakers offer is hot garbage. It's just a lot of hot garbage. But hot garbage plus hot garbage still equals hot garbage.


To be fair, it's not just them. Fox Sports is no better. The NBA media is full of Laker and LeBron Stans (not to mention Magic and Kobe Stans). KD may be a lot of things, but he wasn't wrong about the media having their heads up LeBron's ass and the toxic environments around his teams.
i loved the otto trade...  
Italianju : 2/7/2019 6:30 am : link
but dont like the morris trade. Morris is an expiring and a descent player, the wiz couldnt get a pick back?

I put the chances that AD gets traded today at like 1%, there is just no benefit for NO. Might as well wait. Personally id like to trade for him now cause then i dont have to stress on draft lottery day, lol
anyone see durant flip out?  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 6:32 am : link
watching it i dont know if it hurt the knicks or helped lol
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/7/2019 7:12 am : link
In comment 14289508 nygiants16 said:
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watching it i dont know if it hurt the knicks or helped lol


I don't think it did either hurt or help. I get why he's pissed. If anything, it reinforced the idea that KD wouldn't be able to handle the NY media.
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nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 7:17 am : link
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watching it i dont know if it hurt the knicks or helped lol



I don't think it did either hurt or help. I get why he's pissed. If anything, it reinforced the idea that KD wouldn't be able to handle the NY media.


do you know the backstory?
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/7/2019 7:20 am : link
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watching it i dont know if it hurt the knicks or helped lol



I don't think it did either hurt or help. I get why he's pissed. If anything, it reinforced the idea that KD wouldn't be able to handle the NY media.



do you know the backstory?


Yeah. He was going after Ethan Strauss. Even called him by name. Ethan who is butthurt over not getting a story from Durant. If there's anything more than that, I don't know.
I think KD is frustrated  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/7/2019 7:21 am : link
Because people are presuming, probably correctly, that the Dubs are going to win a 3rd straight ring & then it's, 'Well, where are you going this summer?'
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nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 7:41 am : link
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watching it i dont know if it hurt the knicks or helped lol



I don't think it did either hurt or help. I get why he's pissed. If anything, it reinforced the idea that KD wouldn't be able to handle the NY media.



do you know the backstory?



Yeah. He was going after Ethan Strauss. Even called him by name. Ethan who is butthurt over not getting a story from Durant. If there's anything more than that, I don't know.


yeah and basically he has been wroting every day how kd is irgnoring the media because he doesnt want to talk about the kp trade and it means hr is going to the knicks
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christian : 2/7/2019 7:48 am : link
In comment 14289520 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Because people are presuming, probably correctly, that the Dubs are going to win a 3rd straight ring & then it's, 'Well, where are you going this summer?'


I love Durant, but he can STFU.

He purposefully orchestrates his contracts to give himself annual flexibility to assess where he wants to play virtually every offseason.

That's totally his right, and extremely smart.

But don't shit a small sedan when the media and fans then go speculate where you're going to play.

If keeping it on the court and not having it analyzed to death is so important, sign a max.

If he can't commit to a veritable all star team, that he sought out, in a brand new arena, in the most desirable area of the country, in arguably the most relevant city in the world right now, maybe he's just kinda asking for it?
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arcarsenal : 2/7/2019 10:32 am : link
In comment 14289508 nygiants16 said:
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watching it i dont know if it hurt the knicks or helped lol


I'm not sure he can handle NY and being THE guy. I have serious reservations about how he handles adversity because it seems to be not well at all.

He won't have guys like Harden, Russ, Steph or Draymond to pass the buck off to when things get rough here. If he comes here, even WITH Kyrie, he is going to be the no-doubt Alpha dog here and the guy expected to carry the Knicks.

The spotlight is going to be directly on him more than it has ever been before and I think he's a bitch who won't handle it well.
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