really have zero loyalty lol That Conley/Gasol move would have been crazy. Raptors are denying they made the offer, they 100% did per sources.
They really don't. Is that trade even an major upgrade for Toronto? Gasol is better than JV but Gasol has really fallen off. And Lowry and Conley are debatable...
Maybe I'm being naive but I just don't see Durant going there. Is he really going to gain any "legacy points" by making the Clippers a winner? They have been well run team recently, but they are still by far second fiddle in Los Angeles. If he wants to go to LA, why not just team up with Lebron and deliver the Lakers another title? He's close with Lebron. I could be wrong but I don't think he's close with Kawhi if they even get him.
I do love that trade for the Clippers though.
I think its Warriors or Knicks for Durant. But I also never would have thought Lebron would go the Heat in 2010...
declining Trier’s option, cutting Dotson (who is non guaranteed) and cutting Lance Thomas (others have mentioned). I like Trier and Dotson as players but if it becomes necessary they can get to $75M.
They can offer Miami's 2021 unprotected pick, Shamet, SGA, Sixers pick etc but that looks very light to me...
Lakers offer is much better than that. I don't think that 2021 Miami pick is a crown jewel. They are a very well run organization that rarely picks high in the draft...
They can offer Miami's 2021 unprotected pick, Shamet, SGA, Sixers pick etc but that looks very light to me...
I think they’d have to get to at least 3, likely 4 firsts with SGA to get a deal done. Just like the Knicks in addition to Knox, Robinson etc. Awfully big gambles unless you’re certain you’re getting your rumored superstar (Durant for the Knicks and Kawhi for the Clips)
don't think they can trade Shamet in a deal like that already; can only deal a guy in a 1 for trade immediately after acquiring him via trade. I very much could buy that their attack plan being Kawhi and Cousins. Seems very reasonable and attainable for them.
Reason to cut any off the Trier, Dot and Thomas trio. They make pennies in the grand scheme of things and you need some sort of bench around the top guys. This is the perfect scenario for anyone who wants to come here. Either you wanna be here or you don’t.
It’s funny to me that AD has the Clippers on his list Â
but not Boston and his dad says it’s because the Celtics have no loyalty citing IT. The Clippers moved their best player two years in a row. While comical, I’m pretty sure it has to do with A) he really only wants the Lakers and Paul came up with other teams that check boxes knowing it’s unlikely they have what it takes to trade for AD (or are willing to give that up) or B) knows Kyrie is a goner.A is most likely imo.
Reason to cut any off the Trier, Dot and Thomas trio. They make pennies in the grand scheme of things and you need some sort of bench around the top guys. This is the perfect scenario for anyone who wants to come here. Either you wanna be here or you don’t.
You want to keep Lance Thomas? Do you watch the Knicks? It’s basically a certainty he’s not on the team next year. He’s a borderline NBA player if that even and he makes $6M/yr. If he was a FA he wouldn’t get more than the vet min and wouldn’t be in high demand either
Reason to cut any off the Trier, Dot and Thomas trio. They make pennies in the grand scheme of things and you need some sort of bench around the top guys. This is the perfect scenario for anyone who wants to come here. Either you wanna be here or you don’t.
Thomas does not make pennies. He's gone 100% after the year. 7.6 million for Lance Thomas is not "pennies" he's garbage and they can dump him and save 6.6. Not a single team in the NBA gives hiM NEAR that.
How much of that money will go for two max contracts
I know that it is dependent upon the players but what would you anticipate ?
How much money will be left to fill out the team
don't think they can trade Shamet in a deal like that already; can only deal a guy in a 1 for trade immediately after acquiring him via trade. I very much could buy that their attack plan being Kawhi and Cousins. Seems very reasonable and attainable for them.
With the NBA who knows but there are claims Boogie has been open about his plans to join LAC even with his GS teammates.
declining Trier’s option, cutting Dotson (who is non guaranteed) and cutting Lance Thomas (others have mentioned). I like Trier and Dotson as players but if it becomes necessary they can get to $75M.
Lance Thomas salary only guaranteed for 1 million next year
declining Trier’s option, cutting Dotson (who is non guaranteed) and cutting Lance Thomas (others have mentioned). I like Trier and Dotson as players but if it becomes necessary they can get to $75M.
Lance Thomas salary only guaranteed for 1 million next year
Irving is the only player who has a question on what hr is going to do..
most think kawhi to clips and durant to knicks..
harris and butler stay in philly..
klay stays with warriors
Everyone is assuming Klay stays in GS
He’s going to want the MAX
Can GS do that with KD possibly coming back
With Curry on the books for 40. With DG waiting for the MAX
I feel the one player out of those 4 that might leave is Klay. Especially if KD picks up his option
can ball but my worst nightmare is Klay/Kemba being our big haul. We already had Klay the first time (very good but not great player at huge coin) cough cough Allan Houston.
them trading Draymond if necessary or letting him walk as a FA next year. I’m also not sure what GS would do if faced with the decision to choose between Klay and KD. On the surface, it seems obvious. Durant is a much better player but unless he’s willing to sign a 4-5 year deal, you’re going to be afraid of him walking every single year and we know that the Warriors are on edge with KD as they don’t know when/if he’ll walk. Not to mention, I think it was Zach Lowe who said those close to KD have been saying they don’t think GS is his last stop since the day he signed there.
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can ball but my worst nightmare is Klay/Kemba being our big haul. We already had Klay the first time (very good but not great player at huge coin) cough cough Allan Houston.
It's eerie how similar their shooting form is. Carbon copy
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Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, Frank Ntilikina, Damyean Dotson (and Enes Kanter and Lance Thomas), and 2 first-round picks
for Anthony Davis (and Solomon Hill).
which side says no?
I think the Knicks need to go up to 3 or maybe even 4 first rounders to get NO to bite. Otherwise, is this really a better deal than the one the Pelicans are offering? Ingram is similar to Knox but he's further along in his development and likely has a little bit more upside, Frank meh, Mitch is raw and I love his upside but they can get a good asset for flipping Ball and Kuzma despite probably already being at his ceiling is a good player.
Similar caliber player. Klay/Kemba will both be 29 in year 1 of their next deals and would both represent the worst "best player" to win a title outside of the Pistons teams... since when? Seattle 40 years ago? That's a 3-4 seed. The Knicks would essentially be the Raptors. A very good regular season team that nobody really thinks is a contender. Would be even worse than missing out on "all" of the max guys this off-season.
Has anyone watched much of the Clippers this year? Â
If so, how does SGA look? I was impressed by him in summer league and he's being touted as a possible centerpiece in an AD deal by Zach Lowe and others. His numbers are decent for a rookie but it doesn't look like he's lighting the world on fire.
Zach Lowe in a column today mentioned they could put a package together centered around SGA and he Heat's pick but he, Woj and others have said the Knicks don't have what it takes to do a deal now. Is that really better than a deal centered around Knox + the Knicks unprotected 1 this year? Even still if you throw in Dallas unprotected 2021 pick and/or Robinson? Am I missing something or is it just anti-Knick media bias?
Player A 16.0, 3 and 2 on 47% from the field, 41% from 3, 104 Ortg, 107 Drtg, .90 WS/48
Player B 19.4, 3.5, 2 on 46% from the field, 42% from 3, 109 Ortg, 108 Drg, .110 WS/48
One is Allan Houston through age 28, the other is Klay. MASSIVE pass for the Knicks adding Klay Thompson (sans it being with a KD/Kawhi/AD centerpiece)
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Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, Frank Ntilikina, Damyean Dotson (and Enes Kanter and Lance Thomas), and 2 first-round picks
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Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, Frank Ntilikina, Damyean Dotson (and Enes Kanter and Lance Thomas), and 2 first-round picks
for Anthony Davis (and Solomon Hill).
which side says no?
I mean, I get it, but if you really think you can sign two max guys, they can just sign those guys and keep those assets. If you do this trade, there'd be only room for one max guy in July.
RE: RE: Klay is a far better defender than AH was Â
Similar caliber player. Klay/Kemba will both be 29 in year 1 of their next deals and would both represent the worst "best player" to win a title outside of the Pistons teams... since when? Seattle 40 years ago? That's a 3-4 seed. The Knicks would essentially be the Raptors. A very good regular season team that nobody really thinks is a contender. Would be even worse than missing out on "all" of the max guys this off-season.
Agree with this... If they fail to get 2 of KD/Kyrie/Kawhi/AD, maybe even if they fail to get 1 of..then IMO they need to adopt the 76ers model and tank again..and again..and again.. until you get the 2 superstars you need through the draft and THEN make your splash for the Klay/Kemba level player to supplement
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50s
Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, Frank Ntilikina, Damyean Dotson (and Enes Kanter and Lance Thomas), and 2 first-round picks
for Anthony Davis (and Solomon Hill).
which side says no?
I mean, I get it, but if you really think you can sign two max guys, they can just sign those guys and keep those assets. If you do this trade, there'd be only room for one max guy in July.
Agreed... unless you REALLY thought Durant/Kyrie were going to pull a LeBron/Bosh and take less.. but can't expect that...
I cannot see him leaving. Unless the Warriors really botch it, he's staying. Pay him the max and forget about it. The guy has more than earned it for them.
-Anyone read Berman's latest article on Janis? He's reporting that Phil had a chance to trade KP to the Suns at the 2017 trade deadline for Booker and "draft pick that could have been Lauri Markannen"?
Tommy Beer just tweeted they would. The Knicks have 71, LAC "more than 70 million" so if it's 71 also, then the same, big whoop.
"If the Clippers trade Danilo Gallinari this week, they will enter 2019 feee agency with 70+ million in cap space."-Tommy Beer
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they will not have more room
Tommy Beer just tweeted they would. The Knicks have 71, LAC "more than 70 million" so if it's 71 also, then the same, big whoop.
beer is wrong they would have 64 roughly if they renounce bradley, they have 37 after harris trade
Take it up with him, he tweeted it. He seems to know his shit.
He becomes a free agent after next season, so maybe someone looking to clear space in 2020 will make a deal for him.
He's guaranteed only 1 million if he's gone by 1/10
They really don't. Is that trade even an major upgrade for Toronto? Gasol is better than JV but Gasol has really fallen off. And Lowry and Conley are debatable...
They can offer Miami's 2021 unprotected pick, Shamet, SGA, Sixers pick etc but that looks very light to me...
I do love that trade for the Clippers though.
I think its Warriors or Knicks for Durant. But I also never would have thought Lebron would go the Heat in 2010...
They can offer Miami's 2021 unprotected pick, Shamet, SGA, Sixers pick etc but that looks very light to me...
Lakers offer is much better than that. I don't think that 2021 Miami pick is a crown jewel. They are a very well run organization that rarely picks high in the draft...
They can offer Miami's 2021 unprotected pick, Shamet, SGA, Sixers pick etc but that looks very light to me...
I think they’d have to get to at least 3, likely 4 firsts with SGA to get a deal done. Just like the Knicks in addition to Knox, Robinson etc. Awfully big gambles unless you’re certain you’re getting your rumored superstar (Durant for the Knicks and Kawhi for the Clips)
You want to keep Lance Thomas? Do you watch the Knicks? It’s basically a certainty he’s not on the team next year. He’s a borderline NBA player if that even and he makes $6M/yr. If he was a FA he wouldn’t get more than the vet min and wouldn’t be in high demand either
Thomas does not make pennies. He's gone 100% after the year. 7.6 million for Lance Thomas is not "pennies" he's garbage and they can dump him and save 6.6. Not a single team in the NBA gives hiM NEAR that.
$73 M in cap space
How much of that money will go for two max contracts
I know that it is dependent upon the players but what would you anticipate ?
How much money will be left to fill out the team
With the NBA who knows but there are claims Boogie has been open about his plans to join LAC even with his GS teammates.
He is either going to stay in Golden State or go to the Knicks.
Lance Thomas salary only guaranteed for 1 million next year
most think kawhi to clips and durant to knicks..
harris and butler stay in philly..
klay stays with warriors
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declining Trier’s option, cutting Dotson (who is non guaranteed) and cutting Lance Thomas (others have mentioned). I like Trier and Dotson as players but if it becomes necessary they can get to $75M.
Lance Thomas salary only guaranteed for 1 million next year
That’s my point :)
most think kawhi to clips and durant to knicks..
harris and butler stay in philly..
klay stays with warriors
Everyone is assuming Klay stays in GS
He’s going to want the MAX
Can GS do that with KD possibly coming back
With Curry on the books for 40. With DG waiting for the MAX
I feel the one player out of those 4 that might leave is Klay. Especially if KD picks up his option
There are teams that will give Klay the MAX
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50s
Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, Frank Ntilikina, Damyean Dotson (and Enes Kanter and Lance Thomas), and 2 first-round picks
for Anthony Davis (and Solomon Hill).
which side says no?
It's eerie how similar their shooting form is. Carbon copy
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50s
Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, Frank Ntilikina, Damyean Dotson (and Enes Kanter and Lance Thomas), and 2 first-round picks
for Anthony Davis (and Solomon Hill).
which side says no?
I think the Knicks need to go up to 3 or maybe even 4 first rounders to get NO to bite. Otherwise, is this really a better deal than the one the Pelicans are offering? Ingram is similar to Knox but he's further along in his development and likely has a little bit more upside, Frank meh, Mitch is raw and I love his upside but they can get a good asset for flipping Ball and Kuzma despite probably already being at his ceiling is a good player.
Similar caliber player. Klay/Kemba will both be 29 in year 1 of their next deals and would both represent the worst "best player" to win a title outside of the Pistons teams... since when? Seattle 40 years ago? That's a 3-4 seed. The Knicks would essentially be the Raptors. A very good regular season team that nobody really thinks is a contender. Would be even worse than missing out on "all" of the max guys this off-season.
Zach Lowe in a column today mentioned they could put a package together centered around SGA and he Heat's pick but he, Woj and others have said the Knicks don't have what it takes to do a deal now. Is that really better than a deal centered around Knox + the Knicks unprotected 1 this year? Even still if you throw in Dallas unprotected 2021 pick and/or Robinson? Am I missing something or is it just anti-Knick media bias?
Player B 19.4, 3.5, 2 on 46% from the field, 42% from 3, 109 Ortg, 108 Drg, .110 WS/48
One is Allan Houston through age 28, the other is Klay. MASSIVE pass for the Knicks adding Klay Thompson (sans it being with a KD/Kawhi/AD centerpiece)
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50s
Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, Frank Ntilikina, Damyean Dotson (and Enes Kanter and Lance Thomas), and 2 first-round picks
for Anthony Davis (and Solomon Hill).
which side says no?
The Pelicans.
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50s
Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, Frank Ntilikina, Damyean Dotson (and Enes Kanter and Lance Thomas), and 2 first-round picks
for Anthony Davis (and Solomon Hill).
which side says no?
I mean, I get it, but if you really think you can sign two max guys, they can just sign those guys and keep those assets. If you do this trade, there'd be only room for one max guy in July.
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probably moves better off the ball as well
Similar caliber player. Klay/Kemba will both be 29 in year 1 of their next deals and would both represent the worst "best player" to win a title outside of the Pistons teams... since when? Seattle 40 years ago? That's a 3-4 seed. The Knicks would essentially be the Raptors. A very good regular season team that nobody really thinks is a contender. Would be even worse than missing out on "all" of the max guys this off-season.
Agree with this... If they fail to get 2 of KD/Kyrie/Kawhi/AD, maybe even if they fail to get 1 of..then IMO they need to adopt the 76ers model and tank again..and again..and again.. until you get the 2 superstars you need through the draft and THEN make your splash for the Klay/Kemba level player to supplement
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Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, Frank Ntilikina, Damyean Dotson (and Enes Kanter and Lance Thomas), and 2 first-round picks
for Anthony Davis (and Solomon Hill).
which side says no?
I mean, I get it, but if you really think you can sign two max guys, they can just sign those guys and keep those assets. If you do this trade, there'd be only room for one max guy in July.
Agreed... unless you REALLY thought Durant/Kyrie were going to pull a LeBron/Bosh and take less.. but can't expect that...
Kawhi is a Clipper
Durant is a Knick
No idea about Kyrie, Boogie, Kemba or most importantly, AD.
-Anyone read Berman's latest article on Janis? He's reporting that Phil had a chance to trade KP to the Suns at the 2017 trade deadline for Booker and "draft pick that could have been Lauri Markannen"?
SG: Klay, Trier
SF: Knox, Dotson
PF: Zion, Vonleh
C: Robinson, Kornet
...if KD didn't come here.