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DanMetroMan : 2/6/2019 9:07 am
-If the Clippers can move Gallinari they will have even more cap room than the Knicks.
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And whos mike conley  
dep026 : 2/6/2019 6:03 pm : link
Other than a good, albeit massively overpaid PG. Guy hasnt done shit in the playoffs.
dep  
Mike from SI : 2/6/2019 6:13 pm : link
You wouldn't do the exact same thing if you were Mike Conley? I know I would.
Neither has jimmy butler.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2019 6:13 pm : link
It's a players' league.
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moze1021 : 2/6/2019 6:23 pm : link
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has made "everyone" available (at the right price)

Per Stein, Memphis wants 2 firsts in any Conley deal, Utah and Detroit in on him.


I wonder if its worth tossing around getting Jrue Holliday. He's a way better defender than Kyrie. He's not crazy expensive at around 25 mill per for the next 3 years. He's been really good the past 2 years. Not as dynamic offensively as Kyrie but still pretty damn good.


I mean..would the idea be to get Jrue, AD, and KD?? That could work...but no way if you are talking Jrue as the sidekick for KD alone...
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Anakim : 2/6/2019 6:35 pm : link
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As the Knicks run out of time to find a trade for center Enes Kanter and his $18.6M expiring deal, discussions on a contract buyout are expected to begin as soon as the deadline passes on Thursday at 3 PM ET, league sources tell ESPN.
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tbonfig : 2/6/2019 7:06 pm : link
In comment 14289297 Anakim said:
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As the Knicks run out of time to find a trade for center Enes Kanter and his $18.6M expiring deal, discussions on a contract buyout are expected to begin as soon as the deadline passes on Thursday at 3 PM ET, league sources tell ESPN.


Can someone advise why team's buyout players? I'm assuming to get their contracts off the books at a lower cost than they are currently owed, while also granting them the opportunity to go out to the market and sign with a contender, therefore opening a roster spot, but is that it?

Am I missing something here?

If that is it, then why do teams do it? Knicks do not owe Kanter shit if they didn't want to buy him out. What is the ultimate benefit for the team?
The benefit to the team is  
steve in ky : 2/6/2019 7:14 pm : link
paying out less money, clearing a roster spot, and ridding themselves and the locker room of a unwanted player.
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Ssanders9816 : 2/6/2019 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14289193 Anakim said:
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the Rat swaps Tyler Johnson for Ryan Anderson

Miami acquires the $20.4M and $21.3M contract of Ryan Anderson. The salary in 2019-20 is guaranteed $15.64M with the remaining amount becoming fully protected if he is not waived by July 10. The tax projection in Miami will increase from $9.7M to $11.8M. However, because Kelly Olynyk is likely to miss out on his $1M bonus for playing 1700 minutes this year, the trade projects to be tax neutral.





Suns also get Knicks great Wayne Ellington


Sixers and Celtics interested once he gets bought out
Wizards trade Otto Porter Jr. to the Bulls for Bobby Portis and Jabari  
Anakim : 2/6/2019 7:36 pm : link
Parker
Lead them to victories, Otto!  
bceagle05 : 2/6/2019 7:37 pm : link
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Knicks and pelicans both very quiet  
nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 7:39 pm : link
hmmm maybe they are talking?? hey one ca wish
what are the bulls doing?  
Italianju : 2/6/2019 7:42 pm : link
The Otto contract is one of the worst in the league. I might rather Portis over Otto even if they made the same amount. Otto is fine, but he is just that, fine. They basically have a version of Otto on the roster already in Denzel.
To be honest  
TommyWiseau : 2/6/2019 7:43 pm : link
I think Anthony Davis will stay put for now. Lebron will waste this year, he will bitch and complain (even though he chose to go to LA). Walton will get fired.
RE: what are the bulls doing?  
nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 7:43 pm : link
In comment 14289358 Italianju said:
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The Otto contract is one of the worst in the league. I might rather Portis over Otto even if they made the same amount. Otto is fine, but he is just that, fine. They basically have a version of Otto on the roster already in Denzel.


you know what is sad, wizards cleared a big contract and still over the cap
Wiz should actually have a kind of interesting young...  
Italianju : 2/6/2019 7:47 pm : link
starting 5. Sato, Beal, Oubre, Portis, and bryant. That oubre for Ariza deal was so dumb for them.
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Anakim : 2/6/2019 7:57 pm : link
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Houston, Cleveland and Sacramento completing a three-way deal that will send Iman Shumpert to the Rockets, league sources tell ESPN.
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Anakim : 2/6/2019 8:01 pm : link
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Houston, Cleveland and Sacramento completing a three-way deal that will send Iman Shumpert to the Rockets, league sources tell ESPN.


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Cleveland is trading Alec Burks and a second round pick to Sacramento in exchange for Iman Shumpert as part of a 3-team package that includes Houston, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
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Anakim : 2/6/2019 8:02 pm : link
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Cleveland will send Alec Burks to the Kings, and Rockets send Brandon Knight, Marquese Chriss and a protected first to Cavaliers, sources tell ESPN.
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Anakim : 2/6/2019 8:18 pm : link
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Cleveland will send Alec Burks to the Kings, and Rockets send Brandon Knight, Marquese Chriss and a protected first to Cavaliers, sources tell ESPN.



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Cleveland will send Nik Stauskas and Wade Baldwin to the Rockets in the three-way deal, league source tells ESPN. Cavaliers acquired those two guards in Sunday's trade with Portland that sent Rodney Hood to the Blazers.
From Berman:  
Anakim : 2/6/2019 8:20 pm : link
"If the Knicks cant trade the large contracts of center Enes Kanter and swingman Wes Matthews for an expiring contract and a draft pick before the 3 p.m. deadline, the players are expected to be waived or bought out, according to a source.

They each make a difficult-to-move $18.6 million, but a league source said the Knicks still are still exploring trade options."
a bit of a miller here, but watching Bucks-Wizards I am struck by  
Del Shofner : 2/6/2019 9:37 pm : link
how may excellent 3-point shooters there are in the NBA, whereas there isn't really even one on the Knicks.
according to stein  
nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 9:53 pm : link
Anthony davis has the knicks on equal footing with lakers on his list of teams he wants to sign long term with
RE: according to stein  
Strahan91 : 2/6/2019 9:55 pm : link
In comment 14289429 nygiants16 said:
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Anthony davis has the knicks on equal footing with lakers on his list of teams he wants to sign long term with

But the Knicks are toxic and such 🤔
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bceagle05 : 2/6/2019 9:56 pm : link
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Anthony Davis has the Knicks on equal footing with the Lakers in terms of teams he is interested in signing with long-term, @NYTSports has learned. The Clippers and Bucks also remain preferred destinations on his list.

A guy desperate to win wants to join a 10-43 team that just traded it's best young player. Hmmmm...
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nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 9:58 pm : link
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Anthony Davis has the Knicks on equal footing with the Lakers in terms of teams he is interested in signing with long-term, @NYTSports has learned. The Clippers and Bucks also remain preferred destinations on his list.


A guy desperate to win wants to join a 10-43 team that just traded it's best young player. Hmmmm...


do you trade for him now, sign durant and a slightly lesser player rather than wait and try and sign durant and kyrie?

i think i trade for davis now if you can
I'd probably trade for him now too  
bceagle05 : 2/6/2019 10:04 pm : link
but I can't blame the Knicks either way. He'd make it a lot easier on us if he'd sign right away.
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nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 10:06 pm : link
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but I can't blame the Knicks either way. He'd make it a lot easier on us if he'd sign right away.


part of me feels like he is leaking this so knicks will make a trade now, but i could be reading to much into it...

feels weird that this is being leaked now when it has been lakers and really only lakers even though knicks were on his list...

even woj started mentioning the knicks...
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nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 10:11 pm : link
kanter, lance, hezonja, knox, frank, 2019 first, 2 mavs picks and another future first for davis and hill..

still would be roughly 55 million under
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DanMetroMan : 2/6/2019 10:17 pm : link
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The Kings are trading Justin Jackson and Zach Randolph to the Mavericks for Harrison Barnes, league sources tell ESPN.
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DanMetroMan : 2/6/2019 10:24 pm : link
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assuming Powell picks up his option, Dallas' pick conveys to Atlanta, and they keep FA holds for DFS, Kleber and Kristaps, i have the Mavs at $30.9 million in cap space this summer.

that's roughly one renouncement/Justin Jackson trade away from max-contract territory.
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The Mavs have the most exciting teenager since LeBron, a player friendly owner and now are also big game hunters.

I cant remember a summer in which this many desirable spots were legitimate max contract contenders.

This summer is about to blow 2000 and 2010 out of the water.
I don't  
Jon in NYC : 2/6/2019 10:26 pm : link
see any reason the Pelicans would trade AD now. Every offer they get will improve in the summer.

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TyreeHelmet : 2/6/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14289439 nygiants16 said:
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kanter, lance, hezonja, knox, frank, 2019 first, 2 mavs picks and another future first for davis and hill..

still would be roughly 55 million under


Take out Hill and this is a no brainer. You have 60-65 million in cap space heading into the summer with-

Davis
Robinson
Smith
Trier
Dotson

You add Durant and still have 20-25 mill in cap space. That team immediately becomes a title contender.
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steve in ky : 2/6/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14289439 nygiants16 said:
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kanter, lance, hezonja, knox, frank, 2019 first, 2 mavs picks and another future first for davis and hill..

still would be roughly 55 million under


Giving up Knox, Frank (last two #1's) and four 1st round picks is giving up too much IMO.
How does this make any sense?  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 10:29 pm : link
I want to sign long term but I won't.


Marc Stein:The Pelicans have not yet disclosed their intentions regarding Davis should they elect to keep him past Thursdays 3 PM deadline. Davis wanted to play in both of New Orleans games this week but was understandably held out by the Pelicans

9 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine



Marc Stein:Davis, Im told, prefers becoming a free agent in July 2020 to signing an extension with any team that acquires him

9 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine



Marc Stein:The Knicks could still try to trade for Davis before the deadline or wait until after the draft lottery in May, when the world will know how strong their top pick in June is. Either way, New York has ample encouragement to pursue a Davis trade before its big free-agent summer

9 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine



Marc Stein:Sources say Davis, meanwhile, remains adamant that he will not sign a long-term deal with Boston if the Celtics trade for him in July and that he would like to play out the rest of the season for the Pelicans if theres no trade by tomorrows deadline

8 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine



Marc Stein:And whether he is traded before Thursdays 3 PM trade deadline or in the offseason, league sources say, Davis intends to play out the remainder of his current contract and become a free agent in 2020 no matter where he lands.

8 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine



Marc Stein:Anthony Davis has the Knicks on equal footing with the Lakers in terms of teams he is interested in signing with long-term, @NYTSports has learned. The Clippers and Bucks also remain preferred destinations on his list

8 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine

This is great.  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 10:30 pm : link
Rachel Nichols:So I asked @WindhorstESPN if the Pels ever intended to seriously engage with LA on Anthony Davis, or if all the talks & leaks were instead designed to sabotage the young Lakers as revenge for what N.O. sees as tampering, & he said its not just possible, its what happened.
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nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14289449 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 14289439 nygiants16 said:


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kanter, lance, hezonja, knox, frank, 2019 first, 2 mavs picks and another future first for davis and hill..

still would be roughly 55 million under



Take out Hill and this is a no brainer. You have 60-65 million in cap space heading into the summer with-

Davis
Robinson
Smith
Trier
Dotson

You add Durant and still have 20-25 mill in cap space. That team immediately becomes a title contender.


you can stretch hill to hive you more space..
RE: How does this make any sense?  
nygiants16 : 2/6/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14289451 robbieballs2003 said:
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I want to sign long term but I won't.


Marc Stein:The Pelicans have not yet disclosed their intentions regarding Davis should they elect to keep him past Thursdays 3 PM deadline. Davis wanted to play in both of New Orleans games this week but was understandably held out by the Pelicans

9 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine



Marc Stein:Davis, Im told, prefers becoming a free agent in July 2020 to signing an extension with any team that acquires him

9 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine



Marc Stein:The Knicks could still try to trade for Davis before the deadline or wait until after the draft lottery in May, when the world will know how strong their top pick in June is. Either way, New York has ample encouragement to pursue a Davis trade before its big free-agent summer

9 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine



Marc Stein:Sources say Davis, meanwhile, remains adamant that he will not sign a long-term deal with Boston if the Celtics trade for him in July and that he would like to play out the rest of the season for the Pelicans if theres no trade by tomorrows deadline

8 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine



Marc Stein:And whether he is traded before Thursdays 3 PM trade deadline or in the offseason, league sources say, Davis intends to play out the remainder of his current contract and become a free agent in 2020 no matter where he lands.

8 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine



Marc Stein:Anthony Davis has the Knicks on equal footing with the Lakers in terms of teams he is interested in signing with long-term, @NYTSports has learned. The Clippers and Bucks also remain preferred destinations on his list

8 mins agoviaTwitterTheSteinLine


because he can make more waiting
Stretching Hill  
Jon in NYC : 2/6/2019 10:35 pm : link
would give them about 9 more mil, which is still enough to get Durant and Irving.
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robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 10:36 pm : link
In comment 14289455 Jon in NYC said:
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would give them about 9 more mil, which is still enough to get Durant and Irving.


If true then I do that deal.
Lebron's crying to Windhorst again.  
bceagle05 : 2/6/2019 10:37 pm : link
Good for the Pelicans. Now if you REALLY want to stick it to LA, trade AD to the Knicks.
Is it just me or does it seem like the Mavs  
Strahan91 : 2/6/2019 10:38 pm : link
go big game hunting every summer with a max slot?
nygiants16  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 10:39 pm : link
I hope that is all it is. He wants to get traded but him really not being committal could be giving teams pause or not their best offer to get him now just in case.
RE: Is it just me or does it seem like the Mavs  
Jon in NYC : 2/6/2019 10:41 pm : link
In comment 14289458 Strahan91 said:
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go big game hunting every summer with a max slot?


Yeah and end up with Chandler Parsons, Harrison Barnes and Deandre Jordan.

I'm not worried about them.
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moze1021 : 2/6/2019 10:42 pm : link
In comment 14289459 robbieballs2003 said:
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I hope that is all it is. He wants to get traded but him really not being committal could be giving teams pause or not their best offer to get him now just in case.


If your AD and go to Knicks, you also probably want to make sure they actually land the other guys before you extend....
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robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14289461 moze1021 said:
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In comment 14289459 robbieballs2003 said:


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I hope that is all it is. He wants to get traded but him really not being committal could be giving teams pause or not their best offer to get him now just in case.



If your AD and go to Knicks, you also probably want to make sure they actually land the other guys before you extend....


I get that. Believe me I do. But I am not talking solely about them. I am talking about other teams. But I agree that it is very interesting that that he specifically mentions the Knicks when we have had the worst winning percentage in the league since like 2003 or some shit.
ESPN's  
MookGiants : 2/6/2019 11:00 pm : link
announcers and studio people have to be on the Lakers payroll at this point. Almost all of them are pushing the narrative that the Pelicans have to take the offer the Lakers made and how they're not sure the Lakers should even be offering that much.

The Lakers offer is hot garbage. It's just a lot of hot garbage. But hot garbage plus hot garbage still equals hot garbage.
Can we just appreciate the trolling job NO is doing to LA?  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2019 11:07 pm : link
I'm loving it.
The potential  
moespree : 2/6/2019 11:09 pm : link
Of a Knicks teams that has KD, Kyrie and AD is pure insanity. Is this real life?
they also  
MookGiants : 2/6/2019 11:13 pm : link
fail to even mention that there is zero reason for Pelicans to trade him right now. The Lakers offer is going to be on the table the entire off-season. They're not going to suddenly pull the offer, they know its total trash.

The Pelicans gained a lot of leverage if it is indeed true that Davis is willing to sign long term with more than just the Lakers. If that is indeed true I don't see any way he winds up with the Lakers. Multiple teams can beat their offer in their sleep.

If I'm the Pelicans even if he says he will only sign long term with the Lakers I wouldn't trade him to them and i'd make him play out his contract. Yeah, they'd be losing out on the Lakers offer, but the Lakers offer isn't making them anything but at the very best a fringe playoff team. It would be worth more to a smaller market team like that to stand up to a player like Davis and stop letting star players hold teams hostage that they dont want to resign with. One team has to do it soon, and if the best the Pelicans can do is that steaming pile of shit then they should make an example out of Davis and stand up to these assholes. He can do whatever he wants but teams need to start standing up to these guys and not letting them dictate everything. They wouldn't be giving up much if they turned down the Lakers package and made him play out his contract.
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