Here's a quote from Pro Football Rumors probably a garbage site but the quote from Matt Lombardy seems accurate.
"Guard Jamon Brown has played well for the Giants since being claimed off waivers from the Rams earlier this year, but New York hasn’t tried to negotiate a new contract with him yet, a source told Matt Lombardo of NJ.com. Brown is set to be a free agent this offseason, and could land a decent sized payday. He’s been a solid starter in his career, but was waived by the Rams shortly after returning from a two game suspension."
Have no idea why this guy thinks Brown "could land a decent sized payday." His PFF grades for 2017 as the starting RG for the Rams and for 2018 are below average and he was considered the Rams' weak link in their starting OL. Maybe there were numerous claims for him after being cut?
Gettleman is playing a waiting game, it seems to me. He's letting Brown discover his presumably low market value, then will offer him a tick more to stay a Giant. Clearly he's in no rush to commit to Brown or talks with Brown's agent would have commenced.
I'm guessing he's going to get a prove it type deal at best, for 2 mil per year average, 2 years, with bonuses to make more, and easily jettisoned after 2019 if he doesn't meet expectations.
Looked but didn't find other projections for his possible next contract.
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Where my G-men at? We working, going to make 2019 a great year! We all in!!
Weak link among the starting 5 OL. Since when do starting guys with rookie 3rd round contracts get released after a 2 game suspension?
PFF article quote prior to the 2018 season:
The Rams have been aggressive this offseason, but they still have holes to fill on their roster. Their offensive line is solid across the board, with the exception of right guard where Jamon Brown struggled in 2017 and produced a PFF grade of 52.1 which ranked 38th among players at the position.
He didn't grade out well for us either at PFF with a below average score similar to his 2017 PFF grade.
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Why hasn't Gettleman approached him yet then? Again, it's PFF, but from the link I provided he graded out 38 among 32 starting RGs... That's not a starting caliber average player, by their score. I am not saying 2 mil is enough, I don't know the figures, but he's not gonna get a fat deal from the Giants that compares with a typical starting RG in this league, I don't think. Not in $$ value nor in years. He's a "prove it" due guy.
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is not true. He was the starter. Ended up serving a 2 game suspension that caused him to be sidelined. Their OL was working just fine so he never regained his starter role. The Rams ended up trading for Fowler and needed to create a roster spot waiving Brown.
Weak link among the starting 5 OL. Since when do starting guys with rookie 3rd round contracts get released after a 2 game suspension?
When the team needs a roster spot. They had a luxury of goods with OL. Jamon was not playing. Fowler was going to start.
I'm not going to get into a discussion on PFF grades.
Wow, some big offers teed up for Jamon
JonC : 12/11/2018 12:48 pm : link
I'd go $3M for one year. If things go well and to plan, he's a depth player.
Now that was a minority opinion, with several posters suggesting a solid starting RG contract of 5-6 mil per for a few years. But JonC wrote that just "shows our desperation" and put up the above # which is close to what I threw out above.
I think DG's behavior to this point suggests JonC and I are closer to the FO's view on Brown at this point.
I’d like to keep him and upgrade around him. I can live with him being the weakest link, which isn’t close to how bad it has been with Jerry and Omameh.
I concur. He's competent, healthy, and young enough he provides upside. Those three things will net him at least 4 million a year in FA.
I wasn't clear, I'm not sure the Giants will pay him 3/12, but some team will
I wasn't clear, I'm not sure the Giants will pay him 3/12, but some team will
You may well have hit the nail on the head.
Someone says you can't pay 'top dollar' for every position...wtf? We're hardly at top dollar, have to start with competence at most positions, so I'm with BigBlueDowntheShore
Someone says you can't pay 'top dollar' for every position...wtf? We're hardly at top dollar, have to start with competence at most positions, so I'm with BigBlueDowntheShore
DJ Fluker sucked. I hate that people come back to him. He wasn't retained since he couldn't pick up a pass stunt to save his life.
I'd much rather have Jamon then Fluker.
Convenient that you left out the fact that he went on IR for a toe injury. A toe that didn't need surgical treatment sidelined a mountain of a man. No wonder he had to sign another prove-it deal.
People are clamoring to sign Daryl Williams who spent last season on IR with a busted knee. We aren't the ambulatory squad.
Yet, in the case of Brown, he is a young, healthy, starter who people want to relegate to the trash heap.
However, if Gettleman feels he can improve the roster at that position, all the better.
How has that worked out the past few years?
I hope they bring him back let him compete .
How has that worked out the past few years?
Worked out great last year with Hernandez on the board early round 2, and a similarly good OL prospect will be on the board at 37 this year, almost surely.
2M? In your dreams......He might get a better contract than Omameh got from the Giants....
Omameh, got cut, and actually got a raise, because he got paid full by the Giants for 2018, and then got a contract from the Jaguars, where he sucked there.....playing next to Flowers of all people....
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How has that worked out the past few years?
Worked out great last year with Hernandez on the board early round 2, and a similarly good OL prospect will be on the board at 37 this year, almost surely.
I’m sure we are going to fix the line via draft and FA.
Hernandez worked out great. I expect us to take at least one started on the Oline, the other bodies have to come from somewhere. I’d rather not rotate through 4 players at RG again.
We need 3 starts on offense. Center to RT. We aren't fixing the entire thing in one offense. Brown is serviceable and could get better with better talent around him.
Someone says you can't pay 'top dollar' for every position...wtf? We're hardly at top dollar, have to start with competence at most positions, so I'm with BigBlueDowntheShore
He did not play with Halapio.
Example, how does he compare to John Miller from the Bills? I'm guessing most don't even know who John Miller is, i don't really, but he had a better year (PFF) than Brown and is 26 years old and i haven't heard anyone talk about him getting big bucks.
I think everyone will agree that the entire right side including center needs to be upgraded. It is a matter of prioritizing what cap dollars should be spent and what draft collateral should be used to do it. If Brown is the weakest link of the upgraded line, I think we will be all right.
There is no comparison between the two. Pugh, prior to his big signing as an UFA had back to back years at left guard grading out over 80 (or "good") by PFF. Jamon Brown has had back to back years grading out at about 50, or "below average."
Lots of folks here don't like PFF's grades, but for the most part they pass the smell test and league wide GMs seem to respect them, for better or worse.
What do I mean re the smell test? Well do most of us here agree Chad Wheeler was the worst starting OL for the Giants this year? Guess what, he also had the lowest PFF grade of about 45.
That would be a good sign for that unit finally.
GM's seem to respect them? You can find takes from a lot of GM's, coaches and player's who directly challenge how players can be graded without knowing their assignments. From Belicheck:
You think a player did something that he shouldn’t have done but maybe he got a call, a line call or a call from a linebacker or he thought the quarterback said something so he did what he thought was the right thing or maybe it was the right thing but that call shouldn’t have been made or should have been on the other side. That's the additional detail we discuss when evaluating the film and when we assess how our players have performed”
An outsider has no idea what the playcall was or what the assignment is and you have many reviewers with no football experience making these judgements. It has been shown time and again that even as a directional tool it is far off. You can look to the absurd low grade Rodgers had in a 4TD game as one end of the spectrum, but those type of examples exist week in and week out.
Same deal as Omameh.
Can’t make that mistake again.
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5 years/45 million . Someone is paying Brown
There is no comparison between the two. Pugh, prior to his big signing as an UFA had back to back years at left guard grading out over 80 (or "good") by PFF. Jamon Brown has had back to back years grading out at about 50, or "below average."
Lots of folks here don't like PFF's grades, but for the most part they pass the smell test and league wide GMs seem to respect them, for better or worse.
What do I mean re the smell test? Well do most of us here agree Chad Wheeler was the worst starting OL for the Giants this year? Guess what, he also had the lowest PFF grade of about 45.
I didn't mean Brown would get Pugh's contract. I meant that if Pugh can get 5/45 the Brown can get 3/12.