Amazing 2 great players on Offense and somehow the Giants struggle to score points
I’m of the opinion that if the Giants can get a top young QB they will be 1 of the best Offense in the NFL .. I’m sure QBs will be very interested in playing with these 2 super stars not to mention Engram and Shep as more than capable supporting players
You can dump Eli and that ridiculous cap # and spend that money on other areas of the team, this franchise can set themselves up for sustained success...... makes to much sense
After a very week first half of the season, the offense was fine down the stretch. The defense, however, sucked.
So, I don't think it's fair to say that the offense was bad this season. The first half? Yes. But after the bye, they did pretty darn well. Plenty well enough for the team to win some games. Problem is the defense couldn't stop anyone.
It’s amazing how people don’t realize how bad Omameh and Flowers were. Once the line stabilized to at least average... our offense scored a lot of points.
But for those who are curious... this post is to take a shot at specific player(s) instead of the entire unit.
After a very week first half of the season, the offense was fine down the stretch. The defense, however, sucked.
So, I don't think it's fair to say that the offense was bad this season. The first half? Yes. But after the bye, they did pretty darn well. Plenty well enough for the team to win some games. Problem is the defense couldn't stop anyone.
They did better after starting 1-7 or whatever it was..
As will a couple more major play-makers on D.
I'd be perfectly happy to see us use the #1 on a future QB, but Eli will still be more productive next year.
Sure the Giants scored a lot of points but somehow won 5 games, I bet you that defense and OL would look a lot better with some of the valuable cap dollars you save by ridding yourself of Manning
How soon will Dwayne Haskins be a better NFL QB then Eli Manning ..... Hmmm I’m guessing year 2 ..... latest
Sure the Giants scored a lot of points but somehow won 5 games, I bet you that defense and OL would look a lot better with some of the valuable cap dollars you save by ridding yourself of Manning
How soon will Dwayne Haskins be a better NFL QB then Eli Manning ..... Hmmm I’m guessing year 2 ..... latest
Year two is perfectly reasonable. In which case it makes sense to play Eli in year 1. This issue is not will Eli be better? He is what he has been for years. It is will the offense be better? QB play was far down the list of Giants' problems this year, which were the OL and every level of the D.
When will you guys learn?
When will you guys learn?
Who the hell are you? The mommy of the message board? These people are grown they don’t need you to tell them what topic they want to discuss.. Either add something or beat it chump
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This threads sole purpose is to shit on Eli.
When will you guys learn?
Who the hell are you?
I am dep026. How are you? Care to share all your dupes? Or too much of a wuss to admit you have been banned many times over?
This logic the OP can’t, won’t, and refuses to understand. But 100 more of these topics. YAY!!!!
Says who? Where is this written in stone? I would cut Eli and sign Ryan Fitzpatrick as a stopgap.. With Odell and Saquon I’m sure he can win you 5 games too at a fraction of the cost
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This threads sole purpose is to shit on Eli.
When will you guys learn?
Who the hell are you?
I am dep026. How are you? Care to share all your dupes? Or too much of a wuss to admit you have been banned many times over?
IDK WTF you’re talking about. You think I’m here to banter back and forth with you? I’m here to talk Giants football with other fanatics. Add something or get the hell out of here
It’s better to move along. Happy now?
Saquon at 27...OV at 70? these rankings are as legitimate as Pro Bowl voting.
Sure the Giants scored a lot of points but somehow won 5 games, I bet you that defense and OL would look a lot better with some of the valuable cap dollars you save by ridding yourself of Manning
How soon will Dwayne Haskins be a better NFL QB then Eli Manning ..... Hmmm I’m guessing year 2 ..... latest
Take a walk asshole.
It’s better to move along. Happy now?
6599... probably a birthday. 19 years old, brain hasn't fully formed yet...not his fault, dep.
This continues to be a misleading stat.
The Cowboys offense was constipated all year.
The Eagles started Foles, then rushed Wentz back when Foles wasn't playing well enough, who also didn't play great.
The Redskins never got out of the gate.
It wasn't a great year for offense in the division.
As will a couple more major play-makers on D.
I'd be perfectly happy to see us use the #1 on a future QB, but Eli will still be more productive next year.
It's amazing they start a thread on offense but only mention skill players...It's the O-line, stupid!!!!
Don in DC : 2/6/2019 5:55 pm : link : reply
the NFC East this year. Look it up.
After a very week first half of the season, the offense was fine down the stretch. The defense, however, sucked.
The schedule was much harder in the first half than the second, and playing against a run of b/u qb's in the second half helped....Wash and Philly lost their QB's, and Dallas's OL struggled this year....
DG completely misjudged Flowers and Omameh......you could see it in preseason.....yet they trotted those guys out there anyways....when you replace crap with less crap, you will be better, and we didn't do it at the start of the season....
A lot of BBI thinks Bettcher did a good job, with what he had....I don't...
The Bucs put up 35
The 49ers put up 23
The Bears put up 27
We put up 27 against Luck and the Colts away when they were battling for a playoff spot.
We put up 35 against Dallas when they played their entire defense.
So one game against the Skins, where they were healthy defensively - where we could put up over 50 if we wanted too.
GoBlue6599 : 2/6/2019 6:19 pm : link : reply
They told us that after the 2017 season Eli will be better next year it was all Mcadoo fault blah blah
So eli was worse in 2018 than the year before? By what metric?
"PFF comes up on player rankings, and I shake my head. I have a hard time with people grading my players who don't know what they're doing and don't know what my players are supposed to be doing"
The Giants can get similar QB play for a fraction of the cost and then make smart signings all over the roster they’d be in a lot better shape, it’s clear as day to almost everyone
The Giants can get similar QB play for a fraction of the cost and then make smart signings all over the roster they’d be in a lot better shape, it’s clear as day to almost everyone
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Eli will be better next year is fools gold
GoBlue6599 : 2/6/2019 6:19 pm : link : reply
They told us that after the 2017 season Eli will be better next year it was all Mcadoo fault blah blah
So eli was worse in 2018 than the year before? By what metric?
No no he was fine in 2018 really 19 TD passes and a middle of the pack scoring offense that features 2 of the best weapons in the NFL.. how many games did they win, how about the division? When was the last time they won that and Eli’s cap hit next season is what? Pure Insanity
To paraphrase, "blah, blah, blah"
Awesomeness
After a very week first half of the season, the offense was fine down the stretch. The defense, however, sucked.
So, I don't think it's fair to say that the offense was bad this season. The first half? Yes. But after the bye, they did pretty darn well. Plenty well enough for the team to win some games. Problem is the defense couldn't stop anyone.
Lol bbi the official Eli h8ers forum. Having said that could we get a better ROI considering salary versus production? Possible I guess, but can I also get Elizabeth Hurley dancing in a bikini in my living room?
I agree with this.
It's borderline mind-boggling to me that some want to create more holes and needs by letting guys like, Vernon, Jenkins and Collins go. As if DG doesnt have enough holes to fill.
The Giants can get similar QB play for a fraction of the cost and then make smart signings all over the roster they’d be in a lot better shape, it’s clear as day to almost everyone
The 49ers scored 23 from their backup QB einstein. How about getting some facts straight before spouting incoherent nonsense.
They got gifts from backup QBs. Oh ok. Gotcha. Great insight. Woodshop stats soon buddy. Dont be late for class.
I keep reading that but I don't remember any of those QBs playing D.
I keep reading that but I don't remember any of those QBs playing D.
Was about to post the same thing. So that was the Bears offense that our offense was moving up and down the field on I suppose.
I keep reading that but I don't remember any of those QBs playing D.
The Giants beat teams who were playing the backup that gave them gift turnovers.. it helped out the Offense immensely, Here is Eli’s stat line for the Bears game, a game the Giants scored 30 points 54%completion rate 170 yards a TD and a INT thoroughly mediocre.. Would the Giants be foolish enough to pay a huge price for that.. Pay for BMW and end up with a kia
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does playing against backup QBs have to do with how many points the offense scored?
I keep reading that but I don't remember any of those QBs playing D.
The Giants beat teams who were playing the backup that gave them gift turnovers.. it helped out the Offense immensely, Here is Eli’s stat line for the Bears game, a game the Giants scored 30 points 54%completion rate 170 yards a TD and a INT thoroughly mediocre.. Would the Giants be foolish enough to pay a huge price for that.. Pay for BMW and end up with a kia
Goff was 20-44 with 0 TDs and 4 INTs.... throw in the shitbowl SB. Rams need a QB. Thanks for your analysis! So in-depth!
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does playing against backup QBs have to do with how many points the offense scored?
I keep reading that but I don't remember any of those QBs playing D.
The Giants beat teams who were playing the backup that gave them gift turnovers.. it helped out the Offense immensely, Here is Eli’s stat line for the Bears game, a game the Giants scored 30 points 54%completion rate 170 yards a TD and a INT thoroughly mediocre.. Would the Giants be foolish enough to pay a huge price for that.. Pay for BMW and end up with a kia
Goff was 20-44 with 0 TDs and 4 INTs.... throw in the shitbowl SB. Rams need a QB. Thanks for your analysis! So in-depth!
Brilliant..let’s compare a 25 year old QB who just had a 30 TD season and led his team to a SB to a 40 year old guy who threw 19 tds and led his team to 5 wins... If anything you’re making my point for me even Goff in year 3 can throw 30 tds in today’s NFL.. Our guy can barely crack 20 on a offense with OBJ and Saquon..
Recess is over kid. Time to go back to class.