and the knicks should not be involved. If you want to give up assets for a guy who is top 3-5 in the league then fine (AD), but no reason to do it for a guy like Beal. I like Beal, but just try to sign Kyrie in the offseason and keep your assets. Lets just keep assets for once, unless we are getting a guy like AD.
I think they are definitely running a risk in waiting until the offseason. Lets look at the Boston godfather offer.
- The Clippers will now most likely keep their pick.
- Memphis is keeping their pick and it looks like is blowing things up. That means that pick isnt being conveyed until 2021.
- Sacramento got better and that pick will most likely be in the 17-20 range.
So you unless they are including Tatum, you are looking at a package of Jaylen Brown/ Smart or Hayward for cap purposes/ Sac pick estimated 17th overall/ Bostons own pick in the mid to late 20s. Along with the Clippers pick that could turn into 2nd round picks or a later 1st and the Memphis pick in 2021.
If Im New Orleans I need a guarantee that Tatum will be included otherwise Im not waiting. I take the Lakers for all they have and hope Lebron ages quickly and AD gets hurt one year down the line for those picks. And I do think Ingram and the other guys are being underrated....
who think that Kuzma, Ingram, and Ball is some great package.
Ball sucks
Kuzma is a chucker who does nothing else
Ingram has potential and I like him, but he is nowhere near a center piece. He's like the 2nd or third piece to a superstar.
I hope NO keeps AD and lets him rot on the bench. Let him sit this year and next year and get two high draft choices. Let him walk for nothing because any trade they get will ensure them wins that will ruin their draft position for players who arent going to make them contenders anyways.
who think that Kuzma, Ingram, and Ball is some great package.
Ball sucks
Kuzma is a chucker who does nothing else
Ingram has potential and I like him, but he is nowhere near a center piece. He's like the 2nd or third piece to a superstar.
I hope NO keeps AD and lets him rot on the bench. Let him sit this year and next year and get two high draft choices. Let him walk for nothing because any trade they get will ensure them wins that will ruin their draft position for players who arent going to make them contenders anyways.
Wouldn't the NBA players union have something to say about that?
I hope NO keeps AD and lets him rot on the bench. Let him sit this year and next year and get two high draft choices. Let him walk for nothing because any trade they get will ensure them wins that will ruin their draft position for players who arent going to make them contenders anyways.
Wouldn't the NBA players union have something to say about that?
Probably but AD forced it upon himself saying he doesnt want to play for the Pelicans anymore and wants to be traded/leave via of Free Agency. IMO, if a player doesnt want to play for the team - why should they play them? He made it publicly known and embarrassed the team. Fuck him. Sit you ass on the bench for the next 18 months. Tell him not even to come to the arena for practices. He will still get paid, just go away.
Players in the NBA have way too much power. The owners are eventually going to take a stand. Its too bad the gutless commissioner blows Lebron and the boys so he lets them do whatever he wants.
Is going to stay put and Lebron will not be happy about it
I dont understand why. He has to understand they dont have good assets. And he knew this when he made his choice. I really dont think this is some some of shocker to him to be honest. If Lebron really wanted another super team he would have planned better.
I hope NO keeps AD and lets him rot on the bench. Let him sit this year and next year and get two high draft choices. Let him walk for nothing because any trade they get will ensure them wins that will ruin their draft position for players who arent going to make them contenders anyways.
Wouldn't the NBA players union have something to say about that?
Probably but AD forced it upon himself saying he doesnt want to play for the Pelicans anymore and wants to be traded/leave via of Free Agency. IMO, if a player doesnt want to play for the team - why should they play them? He made it publicly known and embarrassed the team. Fuck him. Sit you ass on the bench for the next 18 months. Tell him not even to come to the arena for practices. He will still get paid, just go away.
Players in the NBA have way too much power. The owners are eventually going to take a stand. Its too bad the gutless commissioner blows Lebron and the boys so he lets them do whatever he wants.
I do not disagree with any of this.
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So I asked @WindhorstESPN if the Pels ever intended to seriously engage with LA on Anthony Davis, or if all the talks & leaks were instead designed to sabotage the young Lakers as revenge for what N.O. sees as tampering, & he said "it's not just possible, it's what happened."
If there's any truth to this then bravo to the Pelicans.
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RE: Can't see New Orleans sitting Davis for the rest of the year
They should sit him. Or play him off the bench. Show the players that teams still hold some power. Will it be bad for ratings and the NBA? Probably but maybe Silver will finally do something about players demanding trades if a team is benching a top 5 talent in the league.
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So let me guess this is cool cause they had to do what was best for the franchise right??? Traded this man while he was literally playing in the game and had ZERO idea. Im not knocking who traded him because its a business and you have to do what you feel whats best but I just want this narrative to start to get REAL/CHANGE and not when a player wants to be traded or leaves a Franchise that hes a selfish/ungrateful player but when they trade you, release , waive, cut etc etc its best for them! Im ok with both honestly, truly am. Just call a ♠️ a ♠️!!
I think they are taking on a risk here. I would be buying low on Ingram. Simply, I view Ingram as a better prospect than Jaylen Brown. And I would use the leverage I have over the Lakers right now to get 3 or 4 unprotected 1sts from them. That package is better than what Boston can offer if they dont include Tatum.
If the Knicks win the lottery, are they really trading that for AD if they know they have 2 max FAs coming? On top of Knox picks etc? I could see them passing.
And what other team that wins the lottery is trading the top pick for Davis? I just dont see it. I could actually see a scenario where the Lakers move on to other options, the Knicks go a different route and Boston loses Kyrie and is scared of making a big offer because Davis will walk in a year. Where are these other monster trade packages coming from?
Lakers are desperate now. Take all their young guys, spin Lonzo for another pick or young player,get the Lakers to cough up 3 or 4 1st unprotected. Its not a perfect packer, but their is a scenario where it gets worse for them in the offseason.
I think they are taking on a risk here. I would be buying low on Ingram. Simply, I view Ingram as a better prospect than Jaylen Brown. And I would use the leverage I have over the Lakers right now to get 3 or 4 unprotected 1sts from them. That package is better than what Boston can offer if they dont include Tatum.
If the Knicks win the lottery, are they really trading that for AD if they know they have 2 max FAs coming? On top of Knox picks etc? I could see them passing.
And what other team that wins the lottery is trading the top pick for Davis? I just dont see it. I could actually see a scenario where the Lakers move on to other options, the Knicks go a different route and Boston loses Kyrie and is scared of making a big offer because Davis will walk in a year. Where are these other monster trade packages coming from?
Lakers are desperate now. Take all their young guys, spin Lonzo for another pick or young player,get the Lakers to cough up 3 or 4 1st unprotected. Its not a perfect packer, but their is a scenario where it gets worse for them in the offseason.
They tried to gauge the Lakers for 3 or 4 picks but the Lakers have held firm on 2. I agree on Ingram vs Brown but for the Pelicans its likely its Tatum vs Ingram which isnt even close in terms of upside.
LeBron, who would get rid of any teammate to help his own cause is mad the Mavs traded Barnes before the game ended? KD, who signs 1 year deals is mad about FA speculation? I like both guys but when did playing in the NBA become this terrible burden for the player?
Not a bad bench player. Philly needs all the depth it can get. Just wasn't the best fit on the Rockets, especially with a better wing defender in Shump being added. Hopefully Wes Matthews is added as well.
Those are 4 players who have played quality minutes. So matching two of them up with 3 starters should be more than adequate. And dont sleep on Korkmaz. I think he is going to benefit with more PT.
Good. Fuck em.
The Wiz honestly should trade Beal and just blow this up, but they wont.
Im sure we see a few small deals, but i dont think any of the big guys (gasol, conley, AD, etc...) get dealt.
This could theoretically pave a path towards something like this:
PG: Dennis Smith, Cory Joseph
SG: Bradley Beal, Allonzo Trier
SF: RJ Barrett (conservatively assuming #3), Dameun Dotson
PF: Kevin Durant, Noah Vonleh
C: Mitchell Robinson, Luke Kornet
The fans chanting "LeBron will trade you!" when the Lakers were going to the free throw line the other night in Indiana was hysterical.
This could theoretically pave a path towards something like this:
PG: Dennis Smith, Cory Joseph
SG: Bradley Beal, Allonzo Trier
SF: RJ Barrett (conservatively assuming #3), Dameun Dotson
PF: Kevin Durant, Noah Vonleh
C: Mitchell Robinson, Luke Kornet
Yeah but does Durant come to play wiyh Beal?
I think he gets dealt. To Charlotte? We'll see. I could see Toronto.
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I think he gets dealt. To Charlotte? We'll see. I could see Toronto.
Word is Charlotte.
Wouldn't be too sure about that. Great as he is, Father Time gets everyone eventually, and Lebron is no kid.
- The Clippers will now most likely keep their pick.
- Memphis is keeping their pick and it looks like is blowing things up. That means that pick isnt being conveyed until 2021.
- Sacramento got better and that pick will most likely be in the 17-20 range.
So you unless they are including Tatum, you are looking at a package of Jaylen Brown/ Smart or Hayward for cap purposes/ Sac pick estimated 17th overall/ Bostons own pick in the mid to late 20s. Along with the Clippers pick that could turn into 2nd round picks or a later 1st and the Memphis pick in 2021.
If Im New Orleans I need a guarantee that Tatum will be included otherwise Im not waiting. I take the Lakers for all they have and hope Lebron ages quickly and AD gets hurt one year down the line for those picks. And I do think Ingram and the other guys are being underrated....
Ball sucks
Kuzma is a chucker who does nothing else
Ingram has potential and I like him, but he is nowhere near a center piece. He's like the 2nd or third piece to a superstar.
I hope NO keeps AD and lets him rot on the bench. Let him sit this year and next year and get two high draft choices. Let him walk for nothing because any trade they get will ensure them wins that will ruin their draft position for players who arent going to make them contenders anyways.
Ball sucks
Kuzma is a chucker who does nothing else
Ingram has potential and I like him, but he is nowhere near a center piece. He's like the 2nd or third piece to a superstar.
I hope NO keeps AD and lets him rot on the bench. Let him sit this year and next year and get two high draft choices. Let him walk for nothing because any trade they get will ensure them wins that will ruin their draft position for players who arent going to make them contenders anyways.
Wouldn't the NBA players union have something to say about that?
I hope NO keeps AD and lets him rot on the bench. Let him sit this year and next year and get two high draft choices. Let him walk for nothing because any trade they get will ensure them wins that will ruin their draft position for players who arent going to make them contenders anyways.
Wouldn't the NBA players union have something to say about that?
Probably but AD forced it upon himself saying he doesnt want to play for the Pelicans anymore and wants to be traded/leave via of Free Agency. IMO, if a player doesnt want to play for the team - why should they play them? He made it publicly known and embarrassed the team. Fuck him. Sit you ass on the bench for the next 18 months. Tell him not even to come to the arena for practices. He will still get paid, just go away.
Players in the NBA have way too much power. The owners are eventually going to take a stand. Its too bad the gutless commissioner blows Lebron and the boys so he lets them do whatever he wants.
I dont understand why. He has to understand they dont have good assets. And he knew this when he made his choice. I really dont think this is some some of shocker to him to be honest. If Lebron really wanted another super team he would have planned better.
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I hope NO keeps AD and lets him rot on the bench. Let him sit this year and next year and get two high draft choices. Let him walk for nothing because any trade they get will ensure them wins that will ruin their draft position for players who arent going to make them contenders anyways.
Wouldn't the NBA players union have something to say about that?
Probably but AD forced it upon himself saying he doesnt want to play for the Pelicans anymore and wants to be traded/leave via of Free Agency. IMO, if a player doesnt want to play for the team - why should they play them? He made it publicly known and embarrassed the team. Fuck him. Sit you ass on the bench for the next 18 months. Tell him not even to come to the arena for practices. He will still get paid, just go away.
Players in the NBA have way too much power. The owners are eventually going to take a stand. Its too bad the gutless commissioner blows Lebron and the boys so he lets them do whatever he wants.
I do not disagree with any of this.
The fans chanting "LeBron will trade you!" when the Lakers were going to the free throw line the other night in Indiana was hysterical.
Did you see his comment about Barnes getting traded in the middle of the game?
So I asked @WindhorstESPN if the Pels ever intended to seriously engage with LA on Anthony Davis, or if all the talks & leaks were instead designed to sabotage the young Lakers as revenge for what N.O. sees as tampering, & he said "it's not just possible, it's what happened."
If there's any truth to this then bravo to the Pelicans.
Id be stunned if Harry Potter is still a Wizard after tomorrows trade deadline.
Hes older, hes in the West, hes not winning anything this year and his plans all seem to be easier said than done for the moment.
I wish him, the Lakers and Magic Johnson nothing but basketball misfortune.
Please stand firm Pelicans. Lakers offer is not even worthy of a counter.
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I know he'll have the last laugh eventually, but I am quite amused at the moment.
The fans chanting "LeBron will trade you!" when the Lakers were going to the free throw line the other night in Indiana was hysterical.
Did you see his comment about Barnes getting traded in the middle of the game?
I missed that.
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They should sit him. Or play him off the bench. Show the players that teams still hold some power. Will it be bad for ratings and the NBA? Probably but maybe Silver will finally do something about players demanding trades if a team is benching a top 5 talent in the league.
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Good for the Pels. F the Lakers.
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If the Knicks win the lottery, are they really trading that for AD if they know they have 2 max FAs coming? On top of Knox picks etc? I could see them passing.
And what other team that wins the lottery is trading the top pick for Davis? I just dont see it. I could actually see a scenario where the Lakers move on to other options, the Knicks go a different route and Boston loses Kyrie and is scared of making a big offer because Davis will walk in a year. Where are these other monster trade packages coming from?
Lakers are desperate now. Take all their young guys, spin Lonzo for another pick or young player,get the Lakers to cough up 3 or 4 1st unprotected. Its not a perfect packer, but their is a scenario where it gets worse for them in the offseason.
If the Knicks win the lottery, are they really trading that for AD if they know they have 2 max FAs coming? On top of Knox picks etc? I could see them passing.
And what other team that wins the lottery is trading the top pick for Davis? I just dont see it. I could actually see a scenario where the Lakers move on to other options, the Knicks go a different route and Boston loses Kyrie and is scared of making a big offer because Davis will walk in a year. Where are these other monster trade packages coming from?
Lakers are desperate now. Take all their young guys, spin Lonzo for another pick or young player,get the Lakers to cough up 3 or 4 1st unprotected. Its not a perfect packer, but their is a scenario where it gets worse for them in the offseason.
They tried to gauge the Lakers for 3 or 4 picks but the Lakers have held firm on 2. I agree on Ingram vs Brown but for the Pelicans its likely its Tatum vs Ingram which isnt even close in terms of upside.
LeBron, who would get rid of any teammate to help his own cause is mad the Mavs traded Barnes before the game ended? KD, who signs 1 year deals is mad about FA speculation? I like both guys but when did playing in the NBA become this terrible burden for the player?
"Lonzo without LeBron isn't getting to the playoffs. I guarantee that." I fixed it.
Not a bad bench player. Philly needs all the depth it can get. Just wasn't the best fit on the Rockets, especially with a better wing defender in Shump being added. Hopefully Wes Matthews is added as well.
And in the playoffs, the benches aren't nearly as important.
I think 76ers have legit chance of winning East.
And in the playoffs, the benches aren't nearly as important.
I think 76ers have legit chance of winning East.
Oh absolutely, they're a scary team. I'd say they have the 2nd best title odds in the league right now, but depth is something they could still use.
Did Lebron's hush money run out or is this him getting Lonzo out of LA by intentionally speaking up again.
mcConnell
Ennis
Scott
Boban/Amir Johnson
Those are 4 players who have played quality minutes. So matching two of them up with 3 starters should be more than adequate. And dont sleep on Korkmaz. I think he is going to benefit with more PT.