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NFT: Knicks Chat: Durant has had enough

DanMetroMan : 2/7/2019 7:31 am
Deapite the headline...1. Doesn't at all deny interest in the Knicks so the headline is misleading 2. He's not wrong but this would not play in NY. The pitchforks would be out with the way the Knicks are covered. I like KD and always have but I do think he's handling this poorly.
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The media is relentless  
djm : 2/7/2019 7:35 am : link
they never stop. Durant can’t win. He can’t say anything.
Another misleading title.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/7/2019 7:36 am : link
Been doing a great job around here lately.
FYI  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/7/2019 7:38 am : link
I was being sarcastic. I don't think it came across that way.
And like I said in the other thread.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/7/2019 7:40 am : link
Durant clearly wouldn't be able to handle the NY media god forbid they lose 2 in a row.

Frank Isola is somewhere smiling looking at his potential prey.
RE: The media is relentless  
DanMetroMan : 2/7/2019 7:45 am : link
In comment 14289523 djm said:
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they never stop. Durant can’t win. He can’t say anything.


He really needs to learn to say the bare minimum like Eli. I mean as great as Durant is (and he is) he's the megastar with this "sensitive" reputation. Lebron is his own "thing" but guys like Westbrook, AD etc don't get it like this. I'm not even putting this on him but he has to proactively change the narrative. What's the old saying.. never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrel?
Lastbyear he did not have to deal with it  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 8:07 am : link
because he said right away he was not going anywhere...

he is not saying that this year...
Yeah you cant go like 9 days..  
Italianju : 2/7/2019 8:07 am : link
without talking to the media then get annoyed when the flood you with the free agency questions they have wanted to ask for the last week. I think your right, he should just watch video of Eli interviews, lol.

And also maybe sign a deal thats not for one year if you dont want to constantly be asked FA stuff.
all he is asking/saying is to stay focused on basketball  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 2/7/2019 8:13 am : link
not sure there is anything wrong with that.
there is nothing wrong with it...  
Italianju : 2/7/2019 8:17 am : link
but thats not how media works. Im sure 90% of athletes would just like to talk/play the sport they play, but the media comes with that.
Just saw the media session on espn  
The_Boss : 2/7/2019 8:38 am : link
Durant and the NY (if it happens) media might be an issue.
should  
Steve in Greenwich : 2/7/2019 8:41 am : link
have gone the Ben McAdoo route of continuously answering every question the media throws at him with "I have to go back and watch the tape"; even if the question has nothing to do with watching the tape. The media always loves that reply.
Eli/Jeter  
giants#1 : 2/7/2019 8:42 am : link
seriously need to start a consulting firm teaching athletes how to handle the media.
The Knicks are really good about isolating their players  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/7/2019 8:43 am : link
from the media. So, they'll rip him from a distance, but I bet KD would only ever get in front of a camera by choice if he was here.
Is it possible icing  
Really : 2/7/2019 8:46 am : link
out Bondy could actually work in our favor?
Honestly..  
Jan in DC : 2/7/2019 8:46 am : link
I don't think he was even being disrespectful. He just said "I didn't have anything to do with the trade. I don't know anything about the Knicks. I don't want to talk about it. I want to play basketball."

I don't think he handled that poorly. He wasn't shouting. He was obviously annoyed, but he didn't say anything disrespectful. He seemed more tired of answering the same stuff rather than he had soft skin or whatever.
the problem for kd  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 8:46 am : link
It only goes away if durant comes out and says he is staying with warriors or he is going to a different team...

Last year there was zero noise
The whole "NY media monster" thing is overblown  
Stu11 : 2/7/2019 8:55 am : link
especially for the players. With all the national competition and the demise of the print media you don't have as many shit stirrers like Dick Young, Bob Klapisch etc...around any more. Sure Isola pulls his woe is me whiny boy blast the garden routine but he doesn't get near the players any more any way. Durant would be fine here. The media can give coaches hard times in pressers, but even when they handle it the wrong way it dissipates much quicker these days. As long as the team wins games consistently nobody gives a crap, and if Durant comes here with another superstar that will take care of itself. Was Mcadoo having fights with the media weekly when we were 11-5?
Man I love his attitude in that clip..  
moze1021 : 2/7/2019 8:59 am : link
I wish OBJ gave that same message... because it's right.

Show up, work hard, play hard. Can't ask for more.
RE: Man I love his attitude in that clip..  
DanMetroMan : 2/7/2019 9:03 am : link
In comment 14289583 moze1021 said:
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I wish OBJ gave that same message... because it's right.

Show up, work hard, play hard. Can't ask for more.


In theory yes. To not speak to the media for over a week MAKES it a story whether it's fair or not. Being available but boring is the way you need to go see Eli, Jeter, David Wright.
For  
DanMetroMan : 2/7/2019 9:05 am : link
as Isola Jr. as Bondy is... he's been very pro-KD, would be funny to see his tone change if he came here.

"Stefan Bondy
Stefan Bondy
@SBondyNYDN
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17m
Kevin Durant’s decision in free agency 3 years ago changed the entire NBA landscape. Franchises altered plans because they knew they couldn’t beat the Warriors in a certain window. He doesn’t have to talk about it but I hope he understands why people are interested in this stuff."
Not sure who was quoted or if it really means anything but ...  
robbieballs2003 : 2/7/2019 9:16 am : link
Nevertheless, league sources believe the Pelicans don’t see the Knicks as having a strong enough package to offer for Davis, unless they win either the first or second pick in May’s lottery.

 

46 mins ago – via New York Post

nobody...  
Italianju : 2/7/2019 9:20 am : link
has a package that NO is willing to accept so..but yeah this makes sense for NO, why not see where the knicks pick is before you acquire it.
RE: Not sure who was quoted or if it really means anything but ...  
DanMetroMan : 2/7/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14289606 robbieballs2003 said:
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Nevertheless, league sources believe the Pelicans don’t see the Knicks as having a strong enough package to offer for Davis, unless they win either the first or second pick in May’s lottery.

 

46 mins ago – via New York Post


Seems valid to me. After Morant there seems to be a significant drop off and the young Knicks are all good but are "good" not great prospects.
The media are scum  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2019 9:24 am : link
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RE: RE: Not sure who was quoted or if it really means anything but ...  
robbieballs2003 : 2/7/2019 9:25 am : link
In comment 14289612 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14289606 robbieballs2003 said:


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Nevertheless, league sources believe the Pelicans don’t see the Knicks as having a strong enough package to offer for Davis, unless they win either the first or second pick in May’s lottery.

 

46 mins ago – via New York Post




Seems valid to me. After Morant there seems to be a significant drop off and the young Knicks are all good but are "good" not great prospects.


I agree with you. I am just saying reading "league sources believe" means it isn't the Pelicans so who knows what the Pelicans are really thinking.
Heavy  
DanMetroMan : 2/7/2019 9:28 am : link
interest in Vonleh (as there should be). I think he's the most likely player to be moved.
"Zero"  
DanMetroMan : 2/7/2019 9:38 am : link
interest in Kanter per a source
RE:  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 9:40 am : link
In comment 14289629 DanMetroMan said:
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interest in Kanter per a source


i will laugh if no one picks him up when he is cut
RE:  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2019 9:41 am : link
In comment 14289629 DanMetroMan said:
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interest in Kanter per a source


How shocking. And by "shocking", I mean incredibly predictable.
RE: RE:  
DanMetroMan : 2/7/2019 9:42 am : link
In comment 14289630 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14289629 DanMetroMan said:


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interest in Kanter per a source



i will laugh if no one picks him up when he is cut


I'm sure someone will. He can still provide offense down low but damn is his stock down. I'm assuming he lands (next season) with a bad team desperate to spend their money.
I actually  
TommyWiseau : 2/7/2019 9:42 am : link
Like Vonleh but if we can get some assets for him then so be it.
RE: And like I said in the other thread.  
UConn4523 : 2/7/2019 9:43 am : link
In comment 14289526 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Durant clearly wouldn't be able to handle the NY media god forbid they lose 2 in a row.

Frank Isola is somewhere smiling looking at his potential prey.


I don't really think this is true. If he was a POS criminal, sure. But the guy gets annoyed a dumb questions, who cares. He'd be fine.
RE: RE: Man I love his attitude in that clip..  
moze1021 : 2/7/2019 10:11 am : link
In comment 14289590 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14289583 moze1021 said:


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I wish OBJ gave that same message... because it's right.

Show up, work hard, play hard. Can't ask for more.



In theory yes. To not speak to the media for over a week MAKES it a story whether it's fair or not. Being available but boring is the way you need to go see Eli, Jeter, David Wright.


Agreed. Good point.

...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/7/2019 10:16 am : link
This is my greatest worry with KD. He is very sensitive to media/public perception, though he claims he's not. He clearly is.
Should take this as a sign  
ghost718 : 2/7/2019 10:42 am : link
like the fact the other half of that Durant Billboard has now gone missing.

Probably a lot of bird shit on there too.
RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 10:45 am : link
In comment 14289687 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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This is my greatest worry with KD. He is very sensitive to media/public perception, though he claims he's not. He clearly is.


he was not mad at the line of questioning he was mad at the reporter for saying he talked to kd and put words in his mouth...

He would be coming to NY under very  
Dave on the UWS : 2/7/2019 10:45 am : link
different circumstances than when he went to GS. Different expectations, different pressures. I think he would know what he's getting himself in for.
Durant has annoyed the media  
widmerseyebrow : 2/7/2019 10:47 am : link
A grievous sin.

I hope pro athletes band together and boycott this shit. Do fans actually care about this crap? I want to watch games and hear about actual trades and signings.
Durant  
Csonka : 2/7/2019 10:48 am : link
He'd have a very long honeymoon period in NY if he signs here long term. Total lovefest.
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arcarsenal : 2/7/2019 10:49 am : link
I posted this in another thread - but it's probably better here.

I'm not sure Durant can handle NY and being THE guy. I have serious reservations about how he handles adversity because it seems to be not well at all.

He won't have guys like Harden, Russ, Steph or Draymond to pass the buck off to when things get rough here. If he comes here, even WITH Kyrie, he is going to be the no-doubt Alpha dog here and the guy expected to carry the Knicks.

I don't like the media either - but they're relentless here and when there's blood in the water, forget it. How is Durant going to respond when times get rough? I have serious pause.
He'd get along real well with Isola  
moespree : 2/7/2019 10:53 am : link
I can't even begin to imagine the type of back and forth those two would have.
If Durant comes here with the likes of a Kyrie, AD,  
Chris684 : 2/7/2019 10:55 am : link
Klay, etc. that Knicks team is going to do so much more winning than what NYC has grown accustomed to in the last two decades, it should be fine.
RE: .  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 10:56 am : link
In comment 14289745 arcarsenal said:
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I posted this in another thread - but it's probably better here.

I'm not sure Durant can handle NY and being THE guy. I have serious reservations about how he handles adversity because it seems to be not well at all.

He won't have guys like Harden, Russ, Steph or Draymond to pass the buck off to when things get rough here. If he comes here, even WITH Kyrie, he is going to be the no-doubt Alpha dog here and the guy expected to carry the Knicks.

I don't like the media either - but they're relentless here and when there's blood in the water, forget it. How is Durant going to respond when times get rough? I have serious pause.


i will say it again, he did not go off because of the line of questioning...

He went off on 1 specific writer who put words in kds mouth and spun it and acted like he talked to kd...

This had nothing to do with getting criticized, a month earlier he sat there and talked free agency with the knicks writers..
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arcarsenal : 2/7/2019 11:04 am : link
Yeah, but he also had that whole rift with Draymond earlier in the year and all of that drama where he was like "I'm out of here" or whatever he was all bent out of shape about.

Even the biggest KD fan has to admit that the Knicks would be a unique situation for him. This would be the largest market he's played in, and he'd have to carry more weight here than he's ever carried before (barring the very beginning of his career)

He just doesn't seem like a guy who handles adversity well to me.

When OKC lost to GSW a couple years ago after being up 3-1, Durant seemed to vanish when the moment was biggest.

Westbrook's lightning-rod persona took a lot of heat off him. And in Golden State, there is no adversity. All they've done since hes been there is win and they were an established winner before he arrived - not a franchise that has been in peril for decades and desperately seeking a savior

This is going to be a MUCH different animal for him.
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arcarsenal : 2/7/2019 11:05 am : link
And if you ask me, I would bet money that he won't come here.
Knicks chat: Fans have had enough  
GiantsUA : 2/7/2019 11:12 am : link
I fixed it
The way that MSG bans negative reporters has to be a big plus for KD  
Heisenberg : 2/7/2019 11:19 am : link
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I will say this. The way that the shit has gone down for the Lakers  
Heisenberg : 2/7/2019 11:22 am : link
and it being a total public relations disaster and messing with the team has given me a new appreciation for the way the Knicks stealth sold KP. We could have had a TON of front page drama but Perry sent him packing with no leaks until it was a done deal.
Durant  
TyreeHelmet : 2/7/2019 11:52 am : link
I actually agree with Durant here. Strauss put words in his mouth and clearly has no relationship with him. And what do you want him to say? He’s screwed either way. Look what’s happening to Irving.

I think his plan is to go to the Knicks if things line up right. I also think that plan can change very quickly.
Kind  
DanMetroMan : 2/7/2019 12:13 pm : link
of off-topic but given the new Forbes report the Knicks are worth 4 billion... the valuation is so high it almost has to be a corporation that would buy the Knicks, Rangers, MSG and Radio City... I have concerns a corporation would be less free with their checkbook than Dolan. How many private citizens have 10ish billion to spend?
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