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Saos1n : 2/7/2019 3:32 pm
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RE: Speaks volumes that we couldn't get anything  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 5:03 pm : link
In comment 14290332 bceagle05 said:
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in exchange for all these expiring contracts - I guess there's a reason we're 10-43, and the league knows it. Oh well. Grind out these last 29 games and hope our fortunes change this summer.


might make you feel better, stephen a says hr has heard durant does intend to sign wiyh knicks
Would've been more sympathetic to  
Metnut : 2/7/2019 5:11 pm : link
Kanter is he was traded to NYK during a contract year and upset about not getting playing time during a tank. Much harder to be sympathetic when he voluntarily opts-in to an obvious rebuilding situation because the option is favorable to him and then gets upset when things don't go his way.
RE: Speaks volumes that we couldn't get anything  
robbieballs2003 : 2/7/2019 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14290332 bceagle05 said:
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in exchange for all these expiring contracts - I guess there's a reason we're 10-43, and the league knows it. Oh well. Grind out these last 29 games and hope our fortunes change this summer.


Eh, maybe. More likely that there just weren't many matches. We were giving up ezpiring deals but didn't want to take on salary. On top of that we wanted picks. How many teams out tuere have expiring players that have similar salaries as our expiring contracts and had picks to give? It probably wasn't many. As much as I was hoping for some second round picks it just didn't seem like we had many potential matches.
I watch almost all the games and...  
Svengali : 2/7/2019 5:42 pm : link
He always played hard, maybe his defense wasnít the best but it improved. He wanted to be here which is great but I think in todayís NBA a true low post center is not a full time position anymore. Good luck to him. I donít he ever quit on his team.
I like Kanter  
steve in ky : 2/7/2019 6:01 pm : link
Not a right fit for what this team is trying to do but the guy was more into and had more pride being a NY Knick than most players that have passed through this team.

Yes his defense was weak but then that's so for many players today; he isn't alone in that regard. But one thing nobody can't take away from him was his knack for getting a rebound. I wish him well.
KP & Kanter weíre both a pain in the ass..  
Sean : 2/7/2019 6:15 pm : link
Better off now.
RE: I like Kanter  
Enzo : 2/7/2019 6:45 pm : link
In comment 14290360 steve in ky said:
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Not a right fit for what this team is trying to do but the guy was more into and had more pride being a NY Knick than most players that have passed through this team.

eh, at the end of the day he was all about himself. Which is fine. I get it - he's in a contract year. But compare how he handled getting benched vs. how Lee handled it.
I agree he didn't handle himself well at the end.  
steve in ky : 2/7/2019 7:11 pm : link
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RE: who are replacing Kanter and Matthews on the Knicks roster?  
Anakim : 2/7/2019 7:11 pm : link
In comment 14290328 Del Shofner said:
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Ike Anigbogu!!!


John Jenkins probably will when his 10-day is up
alan hahn  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 7:20 pm : link
"There is a superstar coming to the east next year and something big is coming to the east next year"
RE: alan hahn  
steve in ky : 2/7/2019 7:23 pm : link
In comment 14290387 nygiants16 said:
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"There is a superstar coming to the east next year and something big is coming to the east next year"


Was it just odd phrasing about the net result, or did he mean something big other than the superstar?
RE: RE: alan hahn  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 7:28 pm : link
In comment 14290390 steve in ky said:
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In comment 14290387 nygiants16 said:


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"There is a superstar coming to the east next year and something big is coming to the east next year"



Was it just odd phrasing about the net result, or did he mean something big other than the superstar?


that is exactly what he said but did not elaborate on who or where
Then he just said  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 7:32 pm : link
"you thought 2010 was crazy, if you knew what i know you have not seen anything yet"

"and if knicks get 1st pick all hell will break loose and make july even crazier"
RE: As long as Jordan doesn't mess with the tank..  
Vanzetti : 2/7/2019 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14290282 moze1021 said:
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then I don't mind him sticking around.

Hoping Kanter out of locker room isn't addition by subtraction


I think Jordan might help the tank. Good big man for a previous era.íbut if you canít git threes you have no place in
Todayís NBA
RE: KP & Kanter weíre both a pain in the ass..  
Giantology : 2/7/2019 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14290368 Sean said:
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Better off now.


I'm sure it is going to be butterflies and rainbows if we end up with guys like Durant and Irving, too.
RE: Then he just said  
robbieballs2003 : 2/7/2019 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14290393 nygiants16 said:
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"you thought 2010 was crazy, if you knew what i know you have not seen anything yet"

"and if knicks get 1st pick all hell will break loose and make july even crazier"


Where did he say this? Thanks.
RE: RE: Then he just said  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2019 10:10 pm : link
In comment 14290456 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14290393 nygiants16 said:


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"you thought 2010 was crazy, if you knew what i know you have not seen anything yet"

"and if knicks get 1st pick all hell will break loose and make july even crazier"



Where did he say this? Thanks.


on his show tonight
Fuck Kanter  
Optimus-NY : 2/7/2019 11:28 pm : link
Losing player and sideshow me-first type of personality. Guys like him are terrible for teams. He's a guy straight out of that book ODDBALLS by Bruce Shlain.
Best of luck to him  
wigs in nyc : 2/8/2019 12:12 am : link
he played hard. He seemed to have a lot going on personally, the outgrowths of which Iíve become a lot more forgiving of over the years.

While I think that I probably wouldnt find it too terribly difficult to just keep quiet and ball for $18m/yr, I also understand that I dont really live in the same world as these overgrown-children-multi-millionaires.
Kanter was like an attractive girl with a questionable personality.  
JustaDiscussion : 2/8/2019 5:23 am : link
At first glance everything is amazing, but the more you get to know them the more you realize that there are deep seeded issues that just don't help the relationship.

Matthews was terrible for the 2 games he played for the Knicks. He was a combined 4-19. I know it was a small sample size, but I'm very glad the Knicks are deciding to stick with their plan to play the young guys.

This quote from Ian Begley on espn.com makes me very happy: "The Orlando Magic expressed interest in Frank Ntilikina prior to the trade deadline but the club was told that New York was not trading the second-year guard, per league sources."
If you want anthony davis  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2019 8:12 am : link
hope the clippers miss the playoffs, that takes away a pick for the celtics...

say knicks get 2 or 3..which would you rather have:

Tatum, brown, kings pick, memphis pick and another future pick

or

Knox, frank, kjicks pick, 2 future mavs picks and 1 more future first?
id prolly lean boston..  
Italianju : 2/8/2019 8:17 am : link
cause tatum is the safest asset there. But its really close. Thing is it would be up to Davis at that point. No way that BOS offers all of that without knowing he resigns. If AD would rather NY then the packages are close enough that NO prolly takes the knicks.
RE: id prolly lean boston..  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2019 8:24 am : link
In comment 14290536 Italianju said:
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cause tatum is the safest asset there. But its really close. Thing is it would be up to Davis at that point. No way that BOS offers all of that without knowing he resigns. If AD would rather NY then the packages are close enough that NO prolly takes the knicks.


i out the best assets on the table because not fair to take tatum off and not knicks 2019 pick...

I have no idea if boston would put tatum on the table...

RE: If you want anthony davis  
Mike in NJ : 2/8/2019 8:26 am : link
In comment 14290535 nygiants16 said:
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hope the clippers miss the playoffs, that takes away a pick for the celtics...

say knicks get 2 or 3..which would you rather have:

Tatum, brown, kings pick, memphis pick and another future pick

or

Knox, frank, kjicks pick, 2 future mavs picks and 1 more future first?


Iím not very high on Tatum or Brown. Yeah Tatum will probably be an all star at some point, but the way the media talks about him youíd think heís a future MVP candidate and I just donít think heíll be anywhere close to that.
The crazy thing  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2019 8:33 am : link
didnt we hear that irving was recruiting davis to boston at one point? now he will not resign there? weird to me
BOS would have to put....  
Italianju : 2/8/2019 8:38 am : link
tatum on the table if they actually want to get him. Without him their package would be worse then the Lakers.
16, I'll give you credit  
aimrocky : 2/8/2019 8:43 am : link
you're the best at spinning minor nuggets into your preferred narrative... You should apply for a job with the Daily News.

That's not meant to be a knock. Every post of yours creates excitement, even though it's much more likely that the Knicks strike out again.
RE: 16, I'll give you credit  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2019 8:45 am : link
In comment 14290547 aimrocky said:
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you're the best at spinning minor nuggets into your preferred narrative... You should apply for a job with the Daily News.

That's not meant to be a knock. Every post of yours creates excitement, even though it's much more likely that the Knicks strike out again.


what have i spun?
RE: If you want anthony davis  
Vanzetti : 2/8/2019 9:02 am : link
In comment 14290535 nygiants16 said:
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hope the clippers miss the playoffs, that takes away a pick for the celtics...

say knicks get 2 or 3..which would you rather have:

Tatum, brown, kings pick, memphis pick and another future pick

or

Knox, frank, kjicks pick, 2 future mavs picks and 1 more future first?


DSJR and Robinson have to be part of the trade as well to fit AD's salary of 27 million (assuming Knicks sign two max FAs).

The real clincher for the Knicks is their pick this year if it's a top 3.
RE: 16, I'll give you credit  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/8/2019 9:03 am : link
In comment 14290547 aimrocky said:
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even though it's much more likely that the Knicks strike out again.


Isn't this kind of a narrative too?

You're basing this on past failures of people who aren't running things. I don't blame you for feeling that way, but the reality is it's not the same scenario as aged Donnie Walsh getting wheeled into a meeting with Lebron in 2010.
RE: RE: If you want anthony davis  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2019 9:06 am : link
In comment 14290558 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 14290535 nygiants16 said:


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hope the clippers miss the playoffs, that takes away a pick for the celtics...

say knicks get 2 or 3..which would you rather have:

Tatum, brown, kings pick, memphis pick and another future pick

or

Knox, frank, kjicks pick, 2 future mavs picks and 1 more future first?



DSJR and Robinson have to be part of the trade as well to fit AD's salary of 27 million (assuming Knicks sign two max FAs).

The real clincher for the Knicks is their pick this year if it's a top 3.


davis 27
durant 38
dsjr 4
mitch 1
noah 6
=
74

still 36 million under
16...  
Italianju : 2/8/2019 9:14 am : link
thats 76 mill, plus dont we owe lance like a mill or something? And then a few cap holds? I think it would be hard to keep DSJ unless KD or Irving were willing to throw us back a few mill.
RE: 16...  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14290581 Italianju said:
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thats 76 mill, plus dont we owe lance like a mill or something? And then a few cap holds? I think it would be hard to keep DSJ unless KD or Irving were willing to throw us back a few mill.


yiu could make it work irvings max is 31...

that is around 5 million to work with, fill out the roster with vet minmums...

you can make it work
RE: RE: 16...  
robbieballs2003 : 2/8/2019 10:16 am : link
In comment 14290594 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14290581 Italianju said:


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thats 76 mill, plus dont we owe lance like a mill or something? And then a few cap holds? I think it would be hard to keep DSJ unless KD or Irving were willing to throw us back a few mill.



yiu could make it work irvings max is 31...

that is around 5 million to work with, fill out the roster with vet minmums...

you can make it work


nyg16, you cannot just eyeball the NBA cap with players. Who are we trading for AD? Does it fit in that 125% rule or whatever it is? Keeping DSJ doesn't work if we are going to trade for him. Then you have to add up all the vet min contracts. Also, the cap is 109 I think not 110.
125 rule wont apply to us...  
Italianju : 2/8/2019 10:18 am : link
if we are under the cap.
RE: RE: RE: 16...  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2019 10:33 am : link
In comment 14290696 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14290581 Italianju said:


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thats 76 mill, plus dont we owe lance like a mill or something? And then a few cap holds? I think it would be hard to keep DSJ unless KD or Irving were willing to throw us back a few mill.



yiu could make it work irvings max is 31...

that is around 5 million to work with, fill out the roster with vet minmums...

you can make it work



nyg16, you cannot just eyeball the NBA cap with players. Who are we trading for AD? Does it fit in that 125% rule or whatever it is? Keeping DSJ doesn't work if we are going to trade for him. Then you have to add up all the vet min contracts. Also, the cap is 109 I think not 110.


if you are under cap you can absorb part of his contract..

also you can sign vet minimums and go over the cap
RE: 125 rule wont apply to us...  
robbieballs2003 : 2/8/2019 10:38 am : link
In comment 14290699 Italianju said:
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if we are under the cap.


So you are saying we trade for AD before FA? When are we first allowed to trade?
RE: RE: 125 rule wont apply to us...  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2019 10:48 am : link
In comment 14290741 robbieballs2003 said:
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if we are under the cap.



So you are saying we trade for AD before FA? When are we first allowed to trade?


what would probably happen..

it would be agreed to around draft time...

knicks would sign draft pick wait 30 days to make trade official...

sign kd and irving july 1st
RE: RE: RE: 125 rule wont apply to us...  
robbieballs2003 : 2/8/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14290753 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14290699 Italianju said:


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if we are under the cap.



So you are saying we trade for AD before FA? When are we first allowed to trade?



what would probably happen..

it would be agreed to around draft time...

knicks would sign draft pick wait 30 days to make trade official...

sign kd and irving july 1st


Um, the draft is June 20th. How are we waiting 30 days but then sign KD and KI July 1st? That doesn't make sense.
Or is that okay if we are under the cap?  
robbieballs2003 : 2/8/2019 10:53 am : link
What if we take back AD and he puts us over the cap? Does the 125 rule apply then?
a couple of notes from Begley:  
Del Shofner : 2/8/2019 10:55 am : link
The Knicks have 3 open roster spots and will likely look to reward some of their G League players with a 10-day deal. Some to keep an eye on: Billy Garrett (21 PPG in last 5 G), Jameel Warney (18 PPG in 11 G) & Zak Irvin (10 PPG, 8 RPG). The Knicks also have interest in ex-Westchester guard John Jenkins, as the New York Post noted.

The Orlando Magic expressed interest in Frank Ntilikina prior to the trade deadline but the club was told that New York was not trading the second-year guard, per league sources.
RE: RE: RE: RE: 125 rule wont apply to us...  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2019 10:56 am : link
In comment 14290757 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14290741 robbieballs2003 said:


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if we are under the cap.



So you are saying we trade for AD before FA? When are we first allowed to trade?



what would probably happen..

it would be agreed to around draft time...

knicks would sign draft pick wait 30 days to make trade official...

sign kd and irving july 1st



Um, the draft is June 20th. How are we waiting 30 days but then sign KD and KI July 1st? That doesn't make sense.


you have to wait 30 days after signing your draft pick you then can use that as salary in the deal
RE: Who knew I could sympathize with the Turkish government?  
giantsFC : 2/8/2019 11:02 am : link
In comment 14290284 jcn56 said:
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😂
RE: a couple of notes from Begley:  
Enzo : 2/8/2019 11:05 am : link
In comment 14290763 Del Shofner said:
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The Knicks have 3 open roster spots and will likely look to reward some of their G League players with a 10-day deal. Some to keep an eye on: Billy Garrett (21 PPG in last 5 G), Jameel Warney (18 PPG in 11 G) & Zak Irvin (10 PPG, 8 RPG). The Knicks also have interest in ex-Westchester guard John Jenkins, as the New York Post noted.

The Orlando Magic expressed interest in Frank Ntilikina prior to the trade deadline but the club was told that New York was not trading the second-year guard, per league sources.

maybe we can bring Mills' buddy Ron Baker back.
Can we sign guys right now  
GMEN46 : 2/8/2019 2:15 pm : link
And give them not guranteed second year deals for next year. Then use that for space next year to trade for Davis and save Robinson trier Dotson and frank.

Send the following for Davis:

Lance Thomas opt in so thatís $7 mil
Top 3 pick - figure another $7 mil
Smith JR - $4.4 mil
Knox - $4.4 mil
One of the mavs 1st rounders
Thatís 22.4 mil and if needed some non guaranteed expirings that we could sign now.

If the 2019 pick is top 3 how can Boston or lakers beat that deal. I understand Tatum upside is great, but knicks would literally be trading 2 former top 10 picks over the past few years that NOla would have control over for a few years, potential top 3 pick and another first rounder.

I guess if Boston includes brown and tatum with the 4 crappy 1st rounders they have. I guess horrtfird expiring would be included as wel.

Lakers offer isnít even close to knicks offer. I do not like the the upside if any of the Lakers players.

It sucked they stretched Noah that extra $6 mil would be huge. Imagine they could keep Knox or smith jr and send one of them with the lottery pick and 3 other draft picks.

I donít want Mitchell Robinson included in the deal under any circumstances. He will be so valuable at $1 mil for the next 3 years. He can play center or PF.
hahahaha  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2019 2:31 pm : link
RE: RE: a couple of notes from Begley:  
Anakim : 2/8/2019 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14290788 Enzo said:
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In comment 14290763 Del Shofner said:


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The Knicks have 3 open roster spots and will likely look to reward some of their G League players with a 10-day deal. Some to keep an eye on: Billy Garrett (21 PPG in last 5 G), Jameel Warney (18 PPG in 11 G) & Zak Irvin (10 PPG, 8 RPG). The Knicks also have interest in ex-Westchester guard John Jenkins, as the New York Post noted.

The Orlando Magic expressed interest in Frank Ntilikina prior to the trade deadline but the club was told that New York was not trading the second-year guard, per league sources.


maybe we can bring Mills' buddy Ron Baker back.



Henry Ellenson!
RE: Can we sign guys right now  
Strahan91 : 2/8/2019 3:17 pm : link
In comment 14291046 GMEN46 said:
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And give them not guranteed second year deals for next year. Then use that for space next year to trade for Davis and save Robinson trier Dotson and frank.

Send the following for Davis:

Lance Thomas opt in so thatís $7 mil
Top 3 pick - figure another $7 mil
Smith JR - $4.4 mil
Knox - $4.4 mil
One of the mavs 1st rounders
Thatís 22.4 mil and if needed some non guaranteed expirings that we could sign now.

If the 2019 pick is top 3 how can Boston or lakers beat that deal. I understand Tatum upside is great, but knicks would literally be trading 2 former top 10 picks over the past few years that NOla would have control over for a few years, potential top 3 pick and another first rounder.

I guess if Boston includes brown and tatum with the 4 crappy 1st rounders they have. I guess horrtfird expiring would be included as wel.

Lakers offer isnít even close to knicks offer. I do not like the the upside if any of the Lakers players.

It sucked they stretched Noah that extra $6 mil would be huge. Imagine they could keep Knox or smith jr and send one of them with the lottery pick and 3 other draft picks.

I donít want Mitchell Robinson included in the deal under any circumstances. He will be so valuable at $1 mil for the next 3 years. He can play center or PF.

How can Mitchell Robinson play power forward? The Knicks offer would likely need to include Knox, maybe Smith and possibly not just our pick in 2019 but two others unless they win the lottery this year. If they wind up at 3, itíd cost a lot imo to win the AD sweepstakes.
i read that proposal real quick and my mind....  
Italianju : 2/8/2019 3:29 pm : link
went "Wait how did we get JR Smith back" And why?!?!
Everybody on the roster + 4 first round picks are a lot for  
Jim in Hoboken : 2/8/2019 4:18 pm : link
AD. Iíd roll the dice with KD, Kyrie, Zion/Morant, and what we have now.
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