Top 43:
1. DT Quennin Williams (6.70)
2. OLB Josh Allen (6.70)
3. DT Jeffery Simmons (6.62)
4. OLB Nick Bosa (6.52)
5. DT Rashan Gary (6.37)
6. TE T.J. Hockenson (6.35)
7. WR D.K. Metcalf (6.33)
8. OLB Montez Sweat (6.32)
9. RB Josh Jacobs (6.31)
10. LT Jonah Williams (6.30)
11. WR Marquise "Hollywood" Brown (6.29)
12. OLB Jochai Polite (6.27)
13. DT Ed Oliver (6.26)
14. QB Dwayne Haskins (6.25)
15. QB Kyler Murray (6.24)
16. CB Greedy Williams (6.21)
17. ILB Devin White (6.20)
18. LT Andre Dillard (6.19)
19. DT Dexter Lawrence (6.17)
20. CB DeAndre Baker (6.15)
21. RT Jawaan Taylor (6.14)
22. DE Clelin Ferrell (6.13)
23. DT Christian Wilkins (6.12)
24. DE Jaylon Ferguson (6.11)
25. RT/C Dalton Risner (6.10)
26. CB Julian Love (6.10)
27. RT/RG Cody Ford (6.09)
28. WR A.J. Brown (6.08)
29. RB Devin Singletary (6.07)
30. QB Drew Lock (6.05)
31. TE Irv Smith (6.04)
32. DT Jerry Tillery (6.03)
33. DT Dre'mont Jones (6.01)
34. ILB Devin Bush (5.99)
35. ILB Mack Wilson (5.98)
36. WR Deebo Samuel (5.96)
37. CB Byron Murphy (5.95)
38. LT Greg Little (5.95)
39. OLB Brian Burns (5.94)
40. SS Jonathan Abram (5.94)
41. SS Taylor Rapp (5.91)
42. RB David Montgomery (5.89)
43. QB Daniel Jones (5.88)
Key:
9.00-10 - Once-in-lifetime player
8.00-8.99 - Perennial All Pro
7.50-7.99 - Future All Pro
7.00-7.49 - Pro Bowl-calibre player
6.50-6.99 - Chance to become Pro Bowl-calibre player
6.00-6.49 - Should become instant starter
5.50-5.99 - Chance to become NFL starter
Given the key, doesn't seem like NFL.com thinks too highly of this draft class.
I must admit if Devin Bush lasts until the 2nd round.... the Giants should run to the podium. Him and Ogletree would be a great fit together.
Note where the QBs, Clemson DL, and Oliver are ranked. Not so special.
Lol, this is true.
https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects - ( New Window )
Note where the QBs, Clemson DL, and Oliver are ranked. Not so special.
So just asking for personal opinion.... would it be wiser to invest in the OL? Risk a QB? Or trade down?
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picking at #6.
Note where the QBs, Clemson DL, and Oliver are ranked. Not so special.
So just asking for personal opinion.... would it be wiser to invest in the OL? Risk a QB? Or trade down?
I really like Rashan Gary, provided the team can answer the questions on why he looked so good one season but not so much last season. I'd like one of the edge rushers to measure up at #6, otherwise, I'd look to trade down. Not liking the OL or QB options, so far.
9.00-10 Once in a lifetime player
8.00-8.99 Perennial All-Pro
7.50-7.99 Future All-Pro
7.00-7.49 Pro Bowl-caliber Player
6.50-6.99 Chance to become Pro Bowl-Caliber Player
6.00-6.49 Should become instant starter
5.50-5.99 Chance to become NFL Starter
5.20-5.49 NFL backup or special teams potential
5.01-5.19 Better-than-average chance to make NFL roster
5.00 50/50 chance to make NFL roster
4.75-4.99 Should be in an NFL training camp
4.50-4.74 Chance to be in an NFL training camp
No Grade Likely needs time in developmental league
[u]Select 2018 Grades
Barkley - 7.45
Darnold - 7.00
Rosen - 6.19
Mayfield - 6.04
Jackson - 5.91
Allen - 5.90
So NFL.com would have Haskins/Murray as the 2nd/3rd best QB prospects in last years draft. Drew Lock (6.05) would be about even with Mayfield and Daniel Jones (5.88) is roughly on par with Jackson/Allen.
Note where the QBs, Clemson DL, and Oliver are ranked. Not so special.
The top talent certainly doesn't match last years (Chubb = 7.32, Nelson = 7.34, etc), but NFL.com seems pretty conservative with their grades (see Barkley's).
9.00-10 Once in a lifetime player
8.00-8.99 Perennial All-Pro
7.50-7.99 Future All-Pro
7.00-7.49 Pro Bowl-caliber Player
6.50-6.99 Chance to become Pro Bowl-Caliber Player
6.00-6.49 Should become instant starter
5.50-5.99 Chance to become NFL Starter
5.20-5.49 NFL backup or special teams potential
5.01-5.19 Better-than-average chance to make NFL roster
5.00 50/50 chance to make NFL roster
4.75-4.99 Should be in an NFL training camp
4.50-4.74 Chance to be in an NFL training camp
No Grade Likely needs time in developmental league
Select 2018 Grades
Barkley - 7.45
Darnold - 7.00
Rosen - 6.19
Mayfield - 6.04
Jackson - 5.91
Allen - 5.90
So NFL.com would have Haskins/Murray as the 2nd/3rd best QB prospects in last years draft. Drew Lock (6.05) would be about even with Mayfield and Daniel Jones (5.88) is roughly on par with Jackson/Allen.
I really like Rashan Gary, provided the team can answer the questions on why he looked so good one season but not so much last season. I'd like one of the edge rushers to measure up at #6, otherwise, I'd look to trade down. Not liking the OL or QB options, so far.
Here's the thing with Gary that people dont see if they dont watch Michigan each week.
The defense wasnt built aroudn individual success. It never has been with Mattison and Dom Brown. Garys job was to occupy gaps and blockers to let the blitzers and other defenders get 1 on 1 situations. Thats why Bush and Mike McCrary were so good at getting to the QB.
When you throw in the shoulder injury he sustained pre-season.... you can see why his "stats" arent out of this world. But the Michigan defense had multitude of guys who racked up sacks and tackles.
Winovich, Dwamofour, Ugobe, and Pane all had success during the year.
And Ill stand by that I think Gary is the best run defender in the draft which is going to help his cause. If his shoulder chekcs out, I am afraid he may go 2nd overall.
And the homer in me has him better than Bosa too.
Interesting that he has my 'dark horses' Deal and Van Ginkel rated.
Disagree of his rating (lack of) on LB T.J Edwards. Not sure of his ceiling (compared to Van Ginkel) but has a nice NFL calibre floor.
I think Jones grade is pretty accurate, but someone like the Giants May trade into the bottom of Round 1 to gain the extra contract year.
If you are going to gamble on a guy, you might as well gamble that you will keep him around for 5 years.
I know TE is not considered a need position for the Giants. But I believe Gettleman will go BPA at number 6. Sure position is always a consideration. Obviously, a RB at 6 doesn't make a lot of sense.
But a potential All Pro true inline TE?
Is he a real possibility at #6?
I haven't seen Hockenson mentioned at all here in BBI Land, in regards to the #6 pick.
Maybe I'm nuts, but I'm thinking this guy at #6 might be a winning pick.
Note where the QBs, Clemson DL, and Oliver are ranked. Not so special.
Well, the players listed ahead of them aren't much more special according these grades, either. I'd think that would put the QBs in play as its not some huge reach to take a player like Haskins at 6.
Note where the QBs, Clemson DL, and Oliver are ranked. Not so special.
Well here's hoping if the Giants aren't sold on one of the QBs, two teams are and trade up to get them before the Giants pick at 6. Pre combine, it's the only way I see one of the top 4 dropping to them.
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picking at #6.
Note where the QBs, Clemson DL, and Oliver are ranked. Not so special.
Well, the players listed ahead of them aren't much more special according these grades, either. I'd think that would put the QBs in play as its not some huge reach to take a player like Haskins at 6.
My point was to those banging the drum here for those players as no-brainer picks. There's really no blue chip options this year, unlike last year. All drafts are not created equal, and this #6 value is weaker, imv.
Grabbing the best QB available doesn't inspire me.
If the QB position is the most important, why would you want one who isnt ranked that high? If the Giants brass see the best QB as nothing more than an average starter- you still want to take him? Makes no sense.
If you swing and miss on a QB, the overall effect on the team than missing out on a DL or OT is massive.
38. LT Greg Little (5.95)
39. OLB Brian Burns (5.94)
These three should be a lot higher. Burns is my third best ER behind Bosa and Allen, Little has the POTENTIAL and TOOLS to be a top OT in the NFL and Murphy is my #1 CB in the Draft.
Note where the QBs, Clemson DL, and Oliver are ranked. Not so special.
Colin from GBN was on here yesterday saying many NFL people would have ranked Haskins over all the QBs in last year’s draft. Yes, it might not compare with next year’s crop, but even then Colin said Haskins would fall squarely within the top ten.
And Boss: you could analyze it your way. You could also say that Haskins is ranked about a tenth of a point from the 5th best player in the draft - a marginal difference - meaning the Giants should likely lean that way.
I guess its a sucky draft year this year.
This grading system is absolutely ridiculous!
Trying to distinguish college players between Future and Perennial All Pro and "once in a lifetime" using full points is moronic.
Instead, they separate guys by .01 of a point. LOL.
The workout warriors will move up but they aren't playing football at the Combine.
I find their grades in general to be wildly inconsistent from one year to the next.
I find their grades in general to be wildly inconsistent from one year to the next.
That is the problem with these grades. I want to know why they knocked Mayfield. What were the knocks on him other knocks and his size and "character" issues? How they grade Murray higher than Mayfield is strange to me, especially with the limited interviews I've seen him do I would not be surprised if his Wonderlic isn't up to par.