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NGT: AAF Night 1 ratings, official team affiliates

DanBenton : 2/10/2019 12:49 pm
I've seen a lot of BBIers discuss the AAF over the past week and the game thread seemed relatively activate last night.

Anyway, ratings came in and they beat the NBA on ABC head-to-head last night (2.1 to 2.0). As far as former Giants go -- and I could be wrong here -- Damontre Moore recorded the first sack in the history of the new league and Will Hill played well.

The AAF also released a full list of team affiliates, which ranges from the NCAA to the CFL to the NFL. It's a long list, but here they are:

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Birmingham: Alabama, Auburn, New England Patriots, Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns and Pittsburgh Steelers, with Montreal Alouettes and the Ottawa Redblacks as the CFL affiliates. Birmingham was the only franchise to receive two feeder teams in the CFL.

Atlanta: Georgia, Clemson, Louisville, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Virginia, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Kennesaw State, Mercer, Savannah State, Albany State, Clark-Atlanta, Fort Valley State, Morehouse, Shorter, Valdosta State and West Georgia in college; the Jacksonville Jaguars, Carolina Panthers, Atlanta Falcons and Washington Redskins in the NFL and the Toronto Argonauts in the CFL.

Memphis: Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Memphis, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Middle Tennessee, Austin Peay, Chattanooga, East Tennessee State, Tennessee State, Tennessee Tech, Tennessee-Martin, Carson-Newman, Lane and Tusculum in college; the Tennessee Titans, New Orleans Saints, Indianapolis Colts and Cincinnati Bengals in the NFL and the Winnipeg Blue Bombers in the CFL.

Orlando: Florida, Florida State, Miami (Fla.), UCF, South Florida, Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Bethune-Cookman, Florida A& M, Jacksonville, Stetson, Florida Tech and West Florida in college; the Miami Dolphins, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, New York Jets and New York Giants in the NFL and the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in the CFL.

Phoenix: UCLA, Oregon State, Arizona, Arizona State, Illinois, Texas Tech, Washington State, Nevada, Northern Arizona, New Mexico, New Mexico State, Northwestern and UTEP in college; the Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, Chicago Bears and Baltimore Ravens in the NFL and the Edmonton Eskimos in the CFL.

Salt Lake City: California, Oregon, Utah, Oklahoma State, Utah State, Boise State, BYU, Wyoming, Air Force, Southern Utah, Weber State, Colorado State, Northern Colorado, Idaho, Idaho State and Dixie State in college; the Seattle Seahawks, Denver Broncos, Minnesota Vikings and Green Bay Packers in the NFL and the Calgary Stampeders in the CFL.

San Antonio: Texas, Texas A& M, Oklahoma, Baylor, Rice, Houston, SMU, TCU, North Texas, UTSA, Texas State, Abilene Christian, Houston Baptist, Incarnate Word, Lamar, Prairie View, Sam Houston State, Stephen F. Austin, Texas Southern, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Tarleton State, Texas A& M-Commerce, Texas A& M-Kingsville, Texas-Permian Basin and West Texas A& M in college; the Dallas Cowboys, Houston Texans, Kansas City Chiefs and Philadelphia Eagles in the NFL and the Saskatchewan Roughriders in the CFL.

San Diego: Southern Cal, Stanford, Washington, Colorado, San Diego State, Fresno State, San Jose State, UNLV, Hawaii, California Davis, Cal Poly, Sacramento State, San Diego, Azuza Pacific and Humboldt State in college; the Los Angeles Rams, Los Angeles Chargers, Oakland Raiders and Detroit Lions in the NFL and the British Columbia Lions in the CFL.


More details on what that means: AAF Team Affiliates

I thought it was a good launch for the league. Not a fan of no kickoffs or onside kicks, but I get why. I like the lack of TV timeouts, fewer commercials, shorts play clock and the transparency when it comes to officiating.

The crews need to work on their audio issues a bit (from broadcasters to in-helmet communications), but they'll get the bugs out.
there's warning signs in Atlanta  
ray in arlington : 2/10/2019 12:57 pm : link
- stadium (Georgia State University) seating only 25000
- head coach resigned before 1st game
- offensive coordinator (Mike Vick) changes to "advisor" due to "other commitments"
= lost first game 40-6

They are also an outlier in that they are the only AAF team in an NFL city. Wonder why they didn't do St. Louis.


Yeah I agree  
Jints in Carolina : 2/10/2019 12:58 pm : link
I have no clue why Atlanta was chosen.
I  
DanMetroMan : 2/10/2019 12:59 pm : link
enjoyed it and will tune in if I'm home when games are on
.  
arcarsenal : 2/10/2019 1:08 pm : link
I really thought it was better than I expected. I was thinking I was going to see really sloppy, shitty football and too much fluff/trying to be "different" for the sake of not being the NFL, etc. but really it was a pretty smooth ride for the beginning.

Loved the pace and speed of the game. Think it is true to the sport enough to keep me interested - I knew the XFL wasn't for me right away the first time they tried it. It was way too gimmicky.

I know they're going to use an entirely different model this time, but I think AAF has staying power and room to grow. I think the plan to be a developmental league that pairs with the NFL will probably be their best chance to continue growing and building the brand.

I hope this works out. It's nice to have some football to watch between the Super Bowl and the start of baseball season + the draft.
Agreed  
DanMetroMan : 2/10/2019 1:11 pm : link
and it really behooves the NFL to "support" this in the sense it's basically free scouting opportunities to find talent. You know there will be some success stories that come from this league. Maybe guys who just needed exposure or development.
great place to dry-run rules changes  
bluepepper : 2/10/2019 1:16 pm : link
like the kickoff elimination and no XP. Kicking is the least interesting part of football so I think eventually the NFL will go this route.
If it truly..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/10/2019 1:19 pm : link
becomes a minor league that gets subsidized by the NFL it could stick, but it is unlikely.

The WNBA would have folded years ago if based solely on attendance. Drawing less than 8,000 fans is unsustainable in those markets.

If the attendance of the AAF stays what it was like in an inaugural game - that is going to be nearly impossible to sustain. I think Orlando had less than 9,000 in attendance last night, and I wonder how many tickets were free.
30,000 in San Antonio  
Jints in Carolina : 2/10/2019 1:25 pm : link
which was good to see.

Official attendance in Orlando was listed at 21,000....no way where there that many people there. The weather did suck so maybe that played a role.
Didnít watch, but I always felt San Antonio, regardless  
Big Blue '56 : 2/10/2019 1:43 pm : link
of population, could sustain an NFL franchise. The Spurs do well, albeit a smaller venue
whoops I'm in error  
ray in arlington : 2/10/2019 2:04 pm : link
There's a Phoenix team in the aaf, also an NFL city.
Loved last night  
jpkmets : 2/10/2019 2:30 pm : link
My Apollos looked fantastic. Glad to see randomizer got me to the NYG affiliate!
RE: 30,000 in San Antonio  
Deejboy : 2/10/2019 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14292357 Jints in Carolina said:
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which was good to see.

Official attendance in Orlando was listed at 21,000....no way where there that many people there. The weather did suck so maybe that played a role.

Apparently the San Antonio crowd was heavily papered meaning they gave away a lot of tickets cause of the fear of how a 5-10k crowd would look in the Alamodome. Interesting to see what these crowds look like next week.
The tv ratings were apparently good.  
Mike from SI : 2/10/2019 3:27 pm : link
Whether those can remain strong will be a good indication if the league can stick. If the tv ratings are good, but attendance is soft in certain cities, those teams could perhaps move....
Im rooting for the AAF  
uther99 : 2/10/2019 3:54 pm : link
to be like a minor league for the NFL. Send guys down, bring them up,etc.
A guy that  
Gman11 : 2/10/2019 3:54 pm : link
I play pickup soccer with plays for Atlanta. Didn't watch the game, but might watch Atlanta in the future to see how he does.
Regarding San Antonio  
pizbo : 2/10/2019 3:58 pm : link
I don't know about giving away the tickets...

However I was looking at season tickets the other day. It was surprisingly hard to find 2 seats next to each other when I was exploring. I wasn't surprised at all by the attendance when watching the game.

SA tends to really enjoy their sports teams, especially when the price is right. The SA scorpions would routinely get 12,000 fans at a high school stadium their first year.
What's this basketball shit on CBSSN?  
Jints in Carolina : 2/10/2019 4:04 pm : link
I want my Memphis Express dammit!
I'm here....  
OBJRoyal : 2/10/2019 4:10 pm : link
To watch football!!
Should we do a game thread for both of today's games?  
Jints in Carolina : 2/10/2019 4:15 pm : link
.
I was bored with it  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/10/2019 4:15 pm : link
The pace as good, thatís the only thing I liked about it.

The football didnít feel competitive last night. Thatís my biggest problem with it.
Rooting for Orlando as the Giants affiliate  
NYG27 : 2/10/2019 4:22 pm : link
It will be fun to follow them this year.
RE: Rooting for Orlando as the Giants affiliate  
Simms11 : 2/10/2019 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14292448 NYG27 said:
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It will be fun to follow them this year.


Some rooting interest, yes.
RE: I was bored with it  
OBJRoyal : 2/10/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14292443 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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The pace as good, thatís the only thing I liked about it.

The football didnít feel competitive last night. Thatís my biggest problem with it.


Kinda like the SB
Have some former players  
SuperRonJohnson : 2/10/2019 7:11 pm : link
I coached or coached against playing for Orlando and Atlanta. So definitely going to follow it. I can say that I have been a fan of the Apollo's since before their first game. Time flies. Seems like there first game was just yesterday, which it was.
RE: Have some former players  
madgiantscow009 : 2/10/2019 8:58 pm : link
In comment 14292580 SuperRonJohnson said:
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I coached or coached against playing for Orlando and Atlanta. So definitely going to follow it. I can say that I have been a fan of the Apollo's since before their first game. Time flies. Seems like there first game was just yesterday, which it was.


I am late to the party, haven't even heard of the league. Been a die-hard hotshot fan for about 4 minutes now. Only missed one game. Or maybe no games, I have no idea.

RE: RE: Have some former players  
madgiantscow009 : 2/10/2019 9:01 pm : link
In comment 14292706 madgiantscow009 said:
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In comment 14292580 SuperRonJohnson said:


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I coached or coached against playing for Orlando and Atlanta. So definitely going to follow it. I can say that I have been a fan of the Apollo's since before their first game. Time flies. Seems like there first game was just yesterday, which it was.



I am late to the party, haven't even heard of the league. Been a die-hard hotshot fan for about 4 minutes now. Only missed one game. Or maybe no games, I have no idea.


well, it is against my morals because I am very loyal man, but I have turned my back on the hotshots and am now an Appollos fan. It was a nice run. I literally ate ice cream the entire time.
Ratings were good  
Ben in Tampa : 2/11/2019 6:33 pm : link
But they are no longer on CBS until the championship game. They are on CBSSN and B/R Streaming for the remainder of the season. They may have 1 or 2 games on TNT as well.

So the exposure is way way down. Remember the XFL had near record ratings on its first night and then it completely tanked. It will be hard for them to keep the audience.
RE: Ratings were good  
arcarsenal : 2/11/2019 7:16 pm : link
In comment 14293733 Ben in Tampa said:
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But they are no longer on CBS until the championship game. They are on CBSSN and B/R Streaming for the remainder of the season. They may have 1 or 2 games on TNT as well.

So the exposure is way way down. Remember the XFL had near record ratings on its first night and then it completely tanked. It will be hard for them to keep the audience.


You're missing the NFLN part - they are broadcasting tons of these games. Most of them will be easily viewable.

Only one game a week is on B/R Live - some weeks don't have that at all and are all TNT/CBSSN/NFLN
.  
arcarsenal : 2/11/2019 7:18 pm : link
I.e... Week 2. None of these will be hard to watch..

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Salt Lake at Birmingham - Saturday, Feb. 16 - 2 p.m. - TNT

Arizona at Memphis - Saturday, Feb. 16 - 8 p.m. - NFL Network

Orlando at San Antonio - Sunday, Feb. 17 - 4 p.m. - CBS Sports Network

Atlanta at San Diego - Sunday, Feb. 17 - 8 p.m. - NFL Network
RE: RE: Ratings were good  
Ben in Tampa : 2/11/2019 7:49 pm : link
In comment 14293767 arcarsenal said:
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You're missing the NFLN part - they are broadcasting tons of these games. Most of them will be easily viewable.

Only one game a week is on B/R Live - some weeks don't have that at all and are all TNT/CBSSN/NFLN


They are only on TNT once, the week 2 Saturday early game, and then the Saturday afternoon games are exclusively on B/R Live the rest of the year. B/R is owned by Turner, thatís why they putting it on TNT next week.

You are right that they are on NFLN every weekend for the prime time games.
I kinda hope  
BlackLight : 2/11/2019 8:22 pm : link
the AAF and the XFL form a rivalry, where they face off in a championship game at the end of their seasons.
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