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NFL Draft: WR's discussion

rasbutant : 2/10/2019 3:42 pm
I think this is a very sneaky strong draft for WR's? I don't see them discussed very much and I'm not talking just about Giants, but really i don't see much hype about these guys for any teams.

In fact if you look at the mock drafts on NFL.com, of the 4 mock drafts on there the highest selected WR's is Marquise Brown at the 15th pick. A 165 pound speedster.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/mock-drafts

This draft has every thing, tall guys, speed guys, slot guys, etc...

I'll start the discussion with my two favorites... N'Keal Harry - 6' 4" and 213 pounds, with Beckham's catch ability and run after the catch. And DK Metcalf a 6-foot-4, 220-plus pounder who reminds me of Josh Gordon. *He has been injured most his college career though.

I'm surprised these guys are not talked about as top 10 talent??

Harry Highlights link below...

(please try to resist turning the thread into yet another discussion about how the Giants need a QB or RT or DE more, this isn't about who the Giants select at #6 it's intended to be about the WR's in this draft..Thanks in advance)
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The Giants might draft a WR, but in 4th or later  
George from PA : 2/10/2019 3:49 pm : link
So who do think....might be a later round gem?

I would be shocked if they go in that direction with the first 2 rounds
RE: The Giants might draft a WR, but in 4th or later  
SGMen : 2/10/2019 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14292429 George from PA said:
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So who do think....might be a later round gem?

I would be shocked if they go in that direction with the first 2 rounds
I would be surprised if we went WR in the first two rounds as well. However, if the BPA is a WR in the 2nd round, someone DG truly loves, well why not?
Its difficult to say who'll be there and I haven't watched them all.  
rasbutant : 2/10/2019 4:08 pm : link
However, using http://nfldraftscout.com/position-rankings/ as a guide.

I'm surprised to see Keesean Johnson as a 6th round pick. Also, I've heard good things about the Johnson from Buffalo but i haven't watched him.

They have Andy Isabella as a 4th rounder, i bet he goes why higher. Hunter Renfrow is another slot guy that would be good value there i think.

Hakeem Butler at 6'-5" is interesting as a 4th rounder.

*Riley Ridley is listed as a 3rd rounder

They have 8 guys listed as 1st or 2nd Rounders, I've watched 7 of the 8 and wouldn't argue if the draftniks told me they were all 1st rounders.
Clemson WR Hunter Renfro  
Rjanyg : 2/10/2019 4:24 pm : link
He just seems very productive. Big plays and a chain mover
I agree that this draft looks pretty good at WR  
90.Cal : 2/10/2019 4:26 pm : link
There might not be any top 10 type guys but there looks to be a solid pool of good WRs.

N'Keal, Metcalf, AJ, Hollywood, Hakeem, JJ, Deebo, Paris, Ridley, Harmon, Isabella, Ursa, Renfrow... plus more..

I highly doubt a player like Hakeem Butler lasts until the 4th round.
Hakeem Bulter  
rasbutant : 2/10/2019 4:42 pm : link
Certainly looks like he'd be more the a 4th rounder to me as well. This whole class just seems to be under ranked.
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RE: Hakeem Bulter  
WillVAB : 2/10/2019 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14292468 rasbutant said:
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Certainly looks like he'd be more the a 4th rounder to me as well. This whole class just seems to be under ranked. Link - ( New Window )


Yea I like the kid out of Iowa State. There were times during the season he took over games.
Isabella is gonna skyrocket after combine  
Zeke's Alibi : 2/10/2019 5:02 pm : link
He looked like he was playing at different speed at senior bowl.
This WR class  
Sy'56 : 2/10/2019 5:27 pm : link
may be the best one I have seen, ever, when it comes to 1st and 2nd round caliber grades. So many guys with big time size and ball skills.
RE: Isabella is gonna skyrocket after combine  
Sy'56 : 2/10/2019 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14292493 Zeke's Alibi said:
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He looked like he was playing at different speed at senior bowl.


He's still gone be 5'7 with 29 inch arms and 8 inch hands.
I think wide receiver is another weak spot  
Giant John : 2/10/2019 5:32 pm : link
On the roster. Would no be surprised at all if we grabbed on in the third or so.
RE: RE: Isabella is gonna skyrocket after combine  
Zeke's Alibi : 2/10/2019 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14292508 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 14292493 Zeke's Alibi said:


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He looked like he was playing at different speed at senior bowl.



He's still gone be 5'7 with 29 inch arms and 8 inch hands.


Did not realize he was that small. I know he is listed at 5 10 but at first glance I figured he was around 5 9 which for what he brings to the table I think is enough.

Are you sure his hands are only 8 inches? If his hand measures close to 9 it shouldn't be a problem, from what I've read he has good hands and Antonio Brown has no issues with 9 inch hands. Smaller than that catching NFL level fast balls that aren't perfect spirals could prove difficult.

The only time I saw him play outside of senior bowl was against USF and he is the only reason the game was competitive.
This is a very interesting WR class...  
bw in dc : 2/10/2019 5:41 pm : link
I think there is going to be a lot of quality in the mid rounds.

I’ve been hawking Isabella for a few months.

McLaurin and Samuel were dynamite at the Senior Bowl. I think McLaurin and Campbell should go round two - latest. Supporting my point Haskins was playing with outstanding skill players.

Xavier Ubosi intrigues me as a later round prospect with upside. Big kid who helped revitalize the UAB football program. Saw him in their bowl game against Northen Illinois and he went nuts showcasing his big play ability.





Gettleman did a nice job in Carolina  
Chris L. : 2/10/2019 5:45 pm : link
drafting/collecting DL, LB, DB, OL. Not such a great job drafting receivers.
Not before the 5th round please.  
BlueLou'sBack : 2/10/2019 5:52 pm : link
If at all. Maybe a 2 way in line TE.
I am looking forward  
santacruzom : 2/11/2019 2:38 am : link
To seeing how Keelan Doss does at the combine. He really reminded me of Keenan Allen.
The Giants have enough guys to catch the ball IMO  
GoBlue6599 : 2/11/2019 9:00 am : link
They need a QB Defense and a OL before they spend any picks on a guy who’s there to catch the ball.. With OBJ, Saquon Sheppard and Engram how many balls will there be left to catch
RE: The Giants have enough guys to catch the ball IMO  
santacruzom : 2/11/2019 1:42 pm : link
In comment 14292949 GoBlue6599 said:
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They need a QB Defense and a OL before they spend any picks on a guy who’s there to catch the ball.. With OBJ, Saquon Sheppard and Engram how many balls will there be left to catch


Thing is, you just can't pencil in anything in the NFL. You can't simply look at a name and count on production. OBJ could easily miss a bunch of games. Engram could underperform (for whatever reason) for half of them again. He and/or Sheppard could regress. Etc.
This is a good class  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 2/11/2019 2:09 pm : link
and the Giants are thin at WR. I'm surprised drafting a WR isn't getting more play around here.
RE: This is a good class  
BlueLou'sBack : 2/12/2019 2:11 am : link
In comment 14293432 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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and the Giants are thin at WR. I'm surprised drafting a WR isn't getting more play around here.


Why surprised? They have a great #1. They have a solid #2, who's an awesome asset in the running game vis a vis his blocking. They have a solid pass catching specialist type of TE with WR deep speed and good RAC who's just beginning to tap his potential. They have a great pass catching RB and a 2nd RB or two (if Perkins gets healthy) who are both solid receivers out of the backfield. Heck, their FB Penny can catch. They need to re-sign one or two of their FA WRs, but whom among them is going to receive a huge offer? Lattimer - nope, can't stay in the field. Coleman- nope bust at WR to this point, mostly, certainly relative to his draft position. Shepard II, Fowler?
Yeah in a deep WR class they will find someone to nab in the fifth round that has upside, at least.

Right now I'm betting Emmanuel Hall out of Mizzou won't go in the first 4 rounds - he hasn't produced much in terms of quantity in college, missed a bunch of time as a true JR last year, and skipped out on the Senior bowl (apparently without offering any excuse or reason) where his buddy and teammate QB Lock was shining.

He's got as many or more red flags than Stephon Diggs did coming out, and he maybe a faster, quicker version of Diggs if someone screws his head on straight. Watch him blow up the combine...

But with all the other dreadful needs the giants have - pass rush, LBs, free safety, another corner, OL, OL, OL, why would people focus on a 3rd WR who would be the team's 5th receiving option?
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