Now that Kareem Hunt has signed with the Browns, he will be placed on the commissioner's exempt list until the league makes a final decision on discipline. The expectation, as the Browns' announcement indicates, is that he will be suspended for a portion of this season.
He's paid for an extremely ugly mistake by being fired and taking a lower level role with another company. That said, if there's another incident, he should have to find another career outside of the public eye.
Good move for both sides. It's actually a good spot, the Browns have a decent OL with a great interior. He can show out as the 1b in a committee and earn himself a nice, heavily incentivized, payday next year.
He's paid for an extremely ugly mistake by being fired and taking a lower level role with another company. That said, if there's another incident, he should have to find another career outside of the public eye.
Good move for both sides. It's actually a good spot, the Browns have a decent OL with a great interior. He can show out as the 1b in a committee and earn himself a nice, heavily incentivized, payday next year.
He's paid for an extremely ugly mistake by being fired and taking a lower level role with another company. That said, if there's another incident, he should have to find another career outside of the public eye.
Good move for both sides. It's actually a good spot, the Browns have a decent OL with a great interior. He can show out as the 1b in a committee and earn himself a nice, heavily incentivized, payday next year.
No one is entitled to a second chance.
Thank God you don't run the criminal justice system.
Dorsey certainly does not seem afraid of any sort of PR backlash.
I certainly do not condone Hunt's behavior and he deserves to deal with all of the backlash and suspension that will come along with it.
But, I think Dorsey's approach is necessary for that team. He has to be willing to sacrifice a little bit for talent to get them back on the map and stop people from using them as the butt end of every NFL joke when discussing anything associated with failure, hopelessness, etc.
You can be more deliberate about the type of guys you sign when you're a little more established. But for the Browns, beggars can't be choosers and Hunt is a very talented kid who, paired with Chubb, and Johnson's pass catching prowess, will give the Browns one of the best RB groups in football.
That it was a one time incident and he wasn't a chronic abuser, I think he does. There should be some critical thinking involved in these situations, there's a big difference between what Kareem Hunt did and what Greg Hardy did.
If a person should get a second chance, it should be from some demonstrated change. Maybe completing therapy or some metric like that. But just because a person is a good player doesn't mean they should be "entitled" just simply for the hell of it.
The Giants have taken chances on guys in the past. Christian Peter and Kerry Collins. Before either was signed, they had gone through counseling. But a guy like Jeremiah Parker shouldn't just get a second chance.
But then again, if a team could sign Greg Hardy, anything is likely open.
That it was a one time incident and he wasn't a chronic abuser, I think he does. There should be some critical thinking involved in these situations, there's a big difference between what Kareem Hunt did and what Greg Hardy did.
Well, it wasn't a one-time incident. Since the woman incident, there were 2 more non-women incidents I believe.
If a person should get a second chance, it should be from some demonstrated change. Maybe completing therapy or some metric like that. But just because a person is a good player doesn't mean they should be "entitled" just simply for the hell of it.
The Giants have taken chances on guys in the past. Christian Peter and Kerry Collins. Before either was signed, they had gone through counseling. But a guy like Jeremiah Parker shouldn't just get a second chance.
But then again, if a team could sign Greg Hardy, anything is likely open.
I'm sure he's gone through the counseling, I mean if he has an agent steering his career he definitely has. There's absolutely no way for us to know if his intentions were sincere or the therapy stuck. Another chance with zero tolerance is fair IMO.
Agree that nobody is "entitled" to a second chance
He's paid for an extremely ugly mistake by being fired and taking a lower level role with another company. That said, if there's another incident, he should have to find another career outside of the public eye.
Good move for both sides. It's actually a good spot, the Browns have a decent OL with a great interior. He can show out as the 1b in a committee and earn himself a nice, heavily incentivized, payday next year.
No one is entitled to a second chance.
He is entitled to jail time, not a second chance at the NFL
getting another chance in the NFL. Dorsey has an easier time justifying it because he drafted him to KC and can claim to "know his heart". Every other GM is saying "Damn" right now, because they could have gotten a Pro Bowl running back not yet in his prime, for a minimum contract. All it cost them is a little bit of bad publicity in Feb until the NFL Combines starts, and no one mentions it until his first carry in October or November of 2019.
He's paid for an extremely ugly mistake by being fired and taking a lower level role with another company. That said, if there's another incident, he should have to find another career outside of the public eye.
Good move for both sides. It's actually a good spot, the Browns have a decent OL with a great interior. He can show out as the 1b in a committee and earn himself a nice, heavily incentivized, payday next year.
No one is entitled to a second chance.
I agree no one is entitled to anything but everyone deserves a 2nd chance. He has had issues in the past, this really makes it his 3rd or more. I believe like Josh Gordon this will be his last chance.
I didn't say that Hunt shouldn't get a second chance. I said he shouldn't be "entitled" to one. It looks like he's trying to do things needed to get that chance.
That it was a one time incident and he wasn't a chronic abuser, I think he does. There should be some critical thinking involved in these situations, there's a big difference between what Kareem Hunt did and what Greg Hardy did.
Well, it wasn't a one-time incident. Since the woman incident, there were 2 more non-women incidents I believe.
Marijuana? Not really relevant. There's 1 DV incident involving a stranger late night with alcoholo involved.
Absolutely ugly and disgusting but I think there's a difference between that and a Greg Hardy. Guys that are scumbag serial abusers have no place in the NFL, I'm in agreement there. I think there's a stronger argument that Reuben Foster should be out of the league than Kareem Hunt because there appears to a pattern there.
That it was a one time incident and he wasn't a chronic abuser, I think he does. There should be some critical thinking involved in these situations, there's a big difference between what Kareem Hunt did and what Greg Hardy did.
Well, it wasn't a one-time incident. Since the woman incident, there were 2 more non-women incidents I believe.
Marijuana? Not really relevant. There's 1 DV incident involving a stranger late night with alcoholo involved.
Absolutely ugly and disgusting but I think there's a difference between that and a Greg Hardy. Guys that are scumbag serial abusers have no place in the NFL, I'm in agreement there. I think there's a stronger argument that Reuben Foster should be out of the league than Kareem Hunt because there appears to a pattern there.
Not really sure of your point. He was involved in three incidents. Not sure why we are comparing him to other players. Where did I say there is a difference between him an other players or where did I get into the severity of the incidents. My comment was simple. He was involved in three incidents. You said it was a one-time incident. It wasn't. Link - ( New Window )
won't be any outrage. There's a flowery explanation by the GM rationalizing the move!!
Really is amazing how much stock people put into lip service and or bullshit.
If you come off as sincere you can literally get away with the worst things imaginable.
Well yeah, the general public is not very intelligent. And combine that with decades of losing and they will just about believe anything if it means they will be a better team.
That it was a one time incident and he wasn't a chronic abuser, I think he does. There should be some critical thinking involved in these situations, there's a big difference between what Kareem Hunt did and what Greg Hardy did.
Well, it wasn't a one-time incident. Since the woman incident, there were 2 more non-women incidents I believe.
Marijuana? Not really relevant. There's 1 DV incident involving a stranger late night with alcoholo involved.
Absolutely ugly and disgusting but I think there's a difference between that and a Greg Hardy. Guys that are scumbag serial abusers have no place in the NFL, I'm in agreement there. I think there's a stronger argument that Reuben Foster should be out of the league than Kareem Hunt because there appears to a pattern there.
Not really sure of your point. He was involved in three incidents. Not sure why we are comparing him to other players. Where did I say there is a difference between him an other players or where did I get into the severity of the incidents. My comment was simple. He was involved in three incidents. You said it was a one-time incident. It wasn't. Link - ( New Window )
You didn't provide a link and didn't state that they were violent incidents hence my replay. That changes things for sure.
It's kind of my point as well and why I brought up other players. Each case needs to be looked at individually instead a sweeping draconian response.
She was just as much at fault than Kareem. You could clearly see he wanted her to leave and she stepped up in his face all aggressive, he pushes her away, and then she steps back in his face and throws a punch at his head, and hits him.
Men who defend themselves from crazy bitches need to get an automatic pass.
Not saying he did nothing wrong, because he lost his cool and you can't do that with a woman. The woman can lose hers and act like a fucking asshole and nobody bats an eyelash, she doesn't lose her job, her life isn't ruined. Only in the case of the man is he expected to get slapped, punched, and threatened and take it all in stride without retaliation or else he gets sued and loses everything. Female privilege.
but sure as shit, you can kick a woman and get another chance. Lame.
Pretty sure you can kneel. Players have been doing it and playing for a long time now. In fact, CK has been offered deals. But surely you can draw relevant distinctions to on-field behavior in company uniform on national television every week to a one-time screw up (in which the perpetrator was released from employment and now has to meet a bunch of criteria to get another chance.
RE: RE: Can't kneel in silent protest against violence.
but sure as shit, you can kick a woman and get another chance. Lame.
Pretty sure you can kneel. Players have been doing it and playing for a long time now. In fact, CK has been offered deals. But surely you can draw relevant distinctions to on-field behavior in company uniform on national television every week to a one-time screw up (in which the perpetrator was released from employment and now has to meet a bunch of criteria to get another chance.
"screw up" lol JFC The guy kicked a woman. You NEVER do that. Period. Who the hell brought you up. She's as much to blame as Hunt. Holy shit. GTFO.
She was just as much at fault than Kareem. You could clearly see he wanted her to leave and she stepped up in his face all aggressive, he pushes her away, and then she steps back in his face and throws a punch at his head, and hits him.
Men who defend themselves from crazy bitches need to get an automatic pass.
Not saying he did nothing wrong, because he lost his cool and you can't do that with a woman. The woman can lose hers and act like a fucking asshole and nobody bats an eyelash, she doesn't lose her job, her life isn't ruined. Only in the case of the man is he expected to get slapped, punched, and threatened and take it all in stride without retaliation or else he gets sued and loses everything. Female privilege.
I just watched a video of a woman in the snow in a Jeep in Seattle. Some kids throw a snowball at her car. She then proceeds to try to run them over. She than proceeds to get out of the car and tries to physically attack them.
Somehow I don't think this would have even been conceivable 40 years ago. I mean one of those kids could of dropped her with one punch and killed her. I have seen many women interject themselves into potentially drunken violent situations. We rightfully protect women against violence in society, but a systemic side effect seems to be that many women seem to think they can become aggressors or agitate situations with no repercussions. It is a strange conundrum.
She was just as much at fault than Kareem. You could clearly see he wanted her to leave and she stepped up in his face all aggressive, he pushes her away, and then she steps back in his face and throws a punch at his head, and hits him.
Men who defend themselves from crazy bitches need to get an automatic pass.
Not saying he did nothing wrong, because he lost his cool and you can't do that with a woman. The woman can lose hers and act like a fucking asshole and nobody bats an eyelash, she doesn't lose her job, her life isn't ruined. Only in the case of the man is he expected to get slapped, punched, and threatened and take it all in stride without retaliation or else he gets sued and loses everything. Female privilege.
I just watched a video of a woman in the snow in a Jeep in Seattle. Some kids throw a snowball at her car. She then proceeds to try to run them over. She than proceeds to get out of the car and tries to physically attack them.
Somehow I don't think this would have even been conceivable 40 years ago. I mean one of those kids could of dropped her with one punch and killed her. I have seen many women interject themselves into potentially drunken violent situations. We rightfully protect women against violence in society, but a systemic side effect seems to be that many women seem to think they can become aggressors or agitate situations with no repercussions. It is a strange conundrum.
Men are generally much stronger than women are. That's why you don't hit them back.
Even if a woman hit me, I wouldn't hit her back. I'd do only what I needed to remove myself from her path of destruction and that's that.
There's never any reason to do anything more than that. It has to be a literal matter of my own survival for me to physically strike a woman in any way. I understand she wasn't blameless in this situation, but Hunt still has to know better. He's an athlete. He's so much bigger and so much stronger than she is. It's not a fair fight and shouldn't be one that becomes physical at all.
She's absolutely at fault for this too. But Hunt made the bigger mistake and now he has to deal with the backlash and everything that comes along with it.
Men are generally much stronger than women are. That's why you don't hit them back.
Even if a woman hit me, I wouldn't hit her back. I'd do only what I needed to remove myself from her path of destruction and that's that.
There's never any reason to do anything more than that. It has to be a literal matter of my own survival for me to physically strike a woman in any way. I understand she wasn't blameless in this situation, but Hunt still has to know better. He's an athlete. He's so much bigger and so much stronger than she is. It's not a fair fight and shouldn't be one that becomes physical at all.
She's absolutely at fault for this too. But Hunt made the bigger mistake and now he has to deal with the backlash and everything that comes along with it.
Hunt clearly made a mistake here. An older, more mature man learns just to walk away from these situations. When you decide to do that you don't even give her the chance to work you up into a frenzy. Hopefully this serves as a wake up call.
He was 22 years old at the time of the incident. Your brain doesn't even stop maturing until it is 25. 18 is the age we have decided to consider one an adult probably because the vast majority of people are done growing by than, however your brain is still maturing. For me personally, I know there was a distinct difference in my maturity in decision making from about 23 on.
Dorsey certainly does not seem afraid of any sort of PR backlash.
I certainly do not condone Hunt's behavior and he deserves to deal with all of the backlash and suspension that will come along with it.
But, I think Dorsey's approach is necessary for that team. He has to be willing to sacrifice a little bit for talent to get them back on the map and stop people from using them as the butt end of every NFL joke when discussing anything associated with failure, hopelessness, etc.
You can be more deliberate about the type of guys you sign when you're a little more established. But for the Browns, beggars can't be choosers and Hunt is a very talented kid who, paired with Chubb, and Johnson's pass catching prowess, will give the Browns one of the best RB groups in football.
arc, the rueful reply I have to your post is that I think the Browns have a shitload more talented roster than the Giants
Look at all of the early first round picks and picks they've had in general lately.
Winning 4 total games in 3 entire football seasons will afford you the ability to draft some top flight talent out of college and rebuild your roster.
Cleveland had tons of picks and cap space which allowed Dorsey to do some serious shopping for talent.
Mayfield, Ward, Chubb, Callaway, and Harrison all came through the 2018 draft.
Garrett, Peppers, and Njoku all came last year.
They spent money on Jarvis Landry and Carlos Hyde (who they eventually dealt to JAX to make room for Chubb to play)
Funny thing is, for all the credit they get... the Giants scored more points than they did and our defense was basically right on par with theirs.
But it's what I keep saying about a turnaround needing more than one season. Obviously going from 0 wins to 7 is a major improvement and a necessary stepping stone. But the Browns still have work to do.
I think they took a major step in the right direction this year and finally have their QB.
But I'd hope they'd have been able to accumulate talent after 4 wins in 48 tries. It's almost hard to stay THAT bad for more than a few years.
smashed a girl's head in and was still drafted in the 2nd round by the Bengals and led the AFC in rushing this year. Yet the NFL still claims to care about women. They only care about $$$$$.
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Now that Kareem Hunt has signed with the Browns, he will be placed on the commissioner's exempt list until the league makes a final decision on discipline. The expectation, as the Browns' announcement indicates, is that he will be suspended for a portion of this season.
Good move for both sides. It's actually a good spot, the Browns have a decent OL with a great interior. He can show out as the 1b in a committee and earn himself a nice, heavily incentivized, payday next year.
Good move for both sides. It's actually a good spot, the Browns have a decent OL with a great interior. He can show out as the 1b in a committee and earn himself a nice, heavily incentivized, payday next year.
No one is entitled to a second chance.
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He's paid for an extremely ugly mistake by being fired and taking a lower level role with another company. That said, if there's another incident, he should have to find another career outside of the public eye.
Good move for both sides. It's actually a good spot, the Browns have a decent OL with a great interior. He can show out as the 1b in a committee and earn himself a nice, heavily incentivized, payday next year.
No one is entitled to a second chance.
I certainly do not condone Hunt's behavior and he deserves to deal with all of the backlash and suspension that will come along with it.
But, I think Dorsey's approach is necessary for that team. He has to be willing to sacrifice a little bit for talent to get them back on the map and stop people from using them as the butt end of every NFL joke when discussing anything associated with failure, hopelessness, etc.
You can be more deliberate about the type of guys you sign when you're a little more established. But for the Browns, beggars can't be choosers and Hunt is a very talented kid who, paired with Chubb, and Johnson's pass catching prowess, will give the Browns one of the best RB groups in football.
If a person should get a second chance, it should be from some demonstrated change. Maybe completing therapy or some metric like that. But just because a person is a good player doesn't mean they should be "entitled" just simply for the hell of it.
The Giants have taken chances on guys in the past. Christian Peter and Kerry Collins. Before either was signed, they had gone through counseling. But a guy like Jeremiah Parker shouldn't just get a second chance.
But then again, if a team could sign Greg Hardy, anything is likely open.
Well, it wasn't a one-time incident. Since the woman incident, there were 2 more non-women incidents I believe.
If a person should get a second chance, it should be from some demonstrated change. Maybe completing therapy or some metric like that. But just because a person is a good player doesn't mean they should be "entitled" just simply for the hell of it.
The Giants have taken chances on guys in the past. Christian Peter and Kerry Collins. Before either was signed, they had gone through counseling. But a guy like Jeremiah Parker shouldn't just get a second chance.
But then again, if a team could sign Greg Hardy, anything is likely open.
He's still useful to the league, so someone was going to take a chance on him.
He'll be suspended - not sure how long but the NFL could at least make a statement by making it significant.
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He's paid for an extremely ugly mistake by being fired and taking a lower level role with another company. That said, if there's another incident, he should have to find another career outside of the public eye.
Good move for both sides. It's actually a good spot, the Browns have a decent OL with a great interior. He can show out as the 1b in a committee and earn himself a nice, heavily incentivized, payday next year.
No one is entitled to a second chance.
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He's paid for an extremely ugly mistake by being fired and taking a lower level role with another company. That said, if there's another incident, he should have to find another career outside of the public eye.
Good move for both sides. It's actually a good spot, the Browns have a decent OL with a great interior. He can show out as the 1b in a committee and earn himself a nice, heavily incentivized, payday next year.
No one is entitled to a second chance.
I agree no one is entitled to anything but everyone deserves a 2nd chance. He has had issues in the past, this really makes it his 3rd or more. I believe like Josh Gordon this will be his last chance.
I didn't say that Hunt shouldn't get a second chance. I said he shouldn't be "entitled" to one. It looks like he's trying to do things needed to get that chance.
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That it was a one time incident and he wasn't a chronic abuser, I think he does. There should be some critical thinking involved in these situations, there's a big difference between what Kareem Hunt did and what Greg Hardy did.
Well, it wasn't a one-time incident. Since the woman incident, there were 2 more non-women incidents I believe.
Marijuana? Not really relevant. There's 1 DV incident involving a stranger late night with alcoholo involved.
Absolutely ugly and disgusting but I think there's a difference between that and a Greg Hardy. Guys that are scumbag serial abusers have no place in the NFL, I'm in agreement there. I think there's a stronger argument that Reuben Foster should be out of the league than Kareem Hunt because there appears to a pattern there.
Really is amazing how much stock people put into lip service and or bullshit.
If you come off as sincere you can literally get away with the worst things imaginable.
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That it was a one time incident and he wasn't a chronic abuser, I think he does. There should be some critical thinking involved in these situations, there's a big difference between what Kareem Hunt did and what Greg Hardy did.
Well, it wasn't a one-time incident. Since the woman incident, there were 2 more non-women incidents I believe.
Marijuana? Not really relevant. There's 1 DV incident involving a stranger late night with alcoholo involved.
Absolutely ugly and disgusting but I think there's a difference between that and a Greg Hardy. Guys that are scumbag serial abusers have no place in the NFL, I'm in agreement there. I think there's a stronger argument that Reuben Foster should be out of the league than Kareem Hunt because there appears to a pattern there.
Not really sure of your point. He was involved in three incidents. Not sure why we are comparing him to other players. Where did I say there is a difference between him an other players or where did I get into the severity of the incidents. My comment was simple. He was involved in three incidents. You said it was a one-time incident. It wasn't.
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won't be any outrage. There's a flowery explanation by the GM rationalizing the move!!
Really is amazing how much stock people put into lip service and or bullshit.
If you come off as sincere you can literally get away with the worst things imaginable.
Well yeah, the general public is not very intelligent. And combine that with decades of losing and they will just about believe anything if it means they will be a better team.
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That it was a one time incident and he wasn't a chronic abuser, I think he does. There should be some critical thinking involved in these situations, there's a big difference between what Kareem Hunt did and what Greg Hardy did.
Well, it wasn't a one-time incident. Since the woman incident, there were 2 more non-women incidents I believe.
Marijuana? Not really relevant. There's 1 DV incident involving a stranger late night with alcoholo involved.
Absolutely ugly and disgusting but I think there's a difference between that and a Greg Hardy. Guys that are scumbag serial abusers have no place in the NFL, I'm in agreement there. I think there's a stronger argument that Reuben Foster should be out of the league than Kareem Hunt because there appears to a pattern there.
Not really sure of your point. He was involved in three incidents. Not sure why we are comparing him to other players. Where did I say there is a difference between him an other players or where did I get into the severity of the incidents. My comment was simple. He was involved in three incidents. You said it was a one-time incident. It wasn't. Link - ( New Window )
You didn't provide a link and didn't state that they were violent incidents hence my replay. That changes things for sure.
It's kind of my point as well and why I brought up other players. Each case needs to be looked at individually instead a sweeping draconian response.
Men who defend themselves from crazy bitches need to get an automatic pass.
Not saying he did nothing wrong, because he lost his cool and you can't do that with a woman. The woman can lose hers and act like a fucking asshole and nobody bats an eyelash, she doesn't lose her job, her life isn't ruined. Only in the case of the man is he expected to get slapped, punched, and threatened and take it all in stride without retaliation or else he gets sued and loses everything. Female privilege.
Pretty sure you can kneel. Players have been doing it and playing for a long time now. In fact, CK has been offered deals. But surely you can draw relevant distinctions to on-field behavior in company uniform on national television every week to a one-time screw up (in which the perpetrator was released from employment and now has to meet a bunch of criteria to get another chance.
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but sure as shit, you can kick a woman and get another chance. Lame.
Pretty sure you can kneel. Players have been doing it and playing for a long time now. In fact, CK has been offered deals. But surely you can draw relevant distinctions to on-field behavior in company uniform on national television every week to a one-time screw up (in which the perpetrator was released from employment and now has to meet a bunch of criteria to get another chance.
"screw up" lol JFC The guy kicked a woman. You NEVER do that. Period. Who the hell brought you up. She's as much to blame as Hunt. Holy shit. GTFO.
Men who defend themselves from crazy bitches need to get an automatic pass.
Not saying he did nothing wrong, because he lost his cool and you can't do that with a woman. The woman can lose hers and act like a fucking asshole and nobody bats an eyelash, she doesn't lose her job, her life isn't ruined. Only in the case of the man is he expected to get slapped, punched, and threatened and take it all in stride without retaliation or else he gets sued and loses everything. Female privilege.
I just watched a video of a woman in the snow in a Jeep in Seattle. Some kids throw a snowball at her car. She then proceeds to try to run them over. She than proceeds to get out of the car and tries to physically attack them.
Somehow I don't think this would have even been conceivable 40 years ago. I mean one of those kids could of dropped her with one punch and killed her. I have seen many women interject themselves into potentially drunken violent situations. We rightfully protect women against violence in society, but a systemic side effect seems to be that many women seem to think they can become aggressors or agitate situations with no repercussions. It is a strange conundrum.
Yep, he is a bad dude. But he is pretty special on offense.
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She was just as much at fault than Kareem. You could clearly see he wanted her to leave and she stepped up in his face all aggressive, he pushes her away, and then she steps back in his face and throws a punch at his head, and hits him.
Men who defend themselves from crazy bitches need to get an automatic pass.
Not saying he did nothing wrong, because he lost his cool and you can't do that with a woman. The woman can lose hers and act like a fucking asshole and nobody bats an eyelash, she doesn't lose her job, her life isn't ruined. Only in the case of the man is he expected to get slapped, punched, and threatened and take it all in stride without retaliation or else he gets sued and loses everything. Female privilege.
I just watched a video of a woman in the snow in a Jeep in Seattle. Some kids throw a snowball at her car. She then proceeds to try to run them over. She than proceeds to get out of the car and tries to physically attack them.
Somehow I don't think this would have even been conceivable 40 years ago. I mean one of those kids could of dropped her with one punch and killed her. I have seen many women interject themselves into potentially drunken violent situations. We rightfully protect women against violence in society, but a systemic side effect seems to be that many women seem to think they can become aggressors or agitate situations with no repercussions. It is a strange conundrum.
That woman got arrested
Even if a woman hit me, I wouldn't hit her back. I'd do only what I needed to remove myself from her path of destruction and that's that.
There's never any reason to do anything more than that. It has to be a literal matter of my own survival for me to physically strike a woman in any way. I understand she wasn't blameless in this situation, but Hunt still has to know better. He's an athlete. He's so much bigger and so much stronger than she is. It's not a fair fight and shouldn't be one that becomes physical at all.
She's absolutely at fault for this too. But Hunt made the bigger mistake and now he has to deal with the backlash and everything that comes along with it.
Yep, he is a bad dude. But he is pretty special on offense.
That makes no sense. Was Goodell going to remove him from the Commissioners exempt list so he could play in the super bowl?
Even if a woman hit me, I wouldn't hit her back. I'd do only what I needed to remove myself from her path of destruction and that's that.
There's never any reason to do anything more than that. It has to be a literal matter of my own survival for me to physically strike a woman in any way. I understand she wasn't blameless in this situation, but Hunt still has to know better. He's an athlete. He's so much bigger and so much stronger than she is. It's not a fair fight and shouldn't be one that becomes physical at all.
She's absolutely at fault for this too. But Hunt made the bigger mistake and now he has to deal with the backlash and everything that comes along with it.
Hunt clearly made a mistake here. An older, more mature man learns just to walk away from these situations. When you decide to do that you don't even give her the chance to work you up into a frenzy. Hopefully this serves as a wake up call.
He was 22 years old at the time of the incident. Your brain doesn't even stop maturing until it is 25. 18 is the age we have decided to consider one an adult probably because the vast majority of people are done growing by than, however your brain is still maturing. For me personally, I know there was a distinct difference in my maturity in decision making from about 23 on.
I certainly do not condone Hunt's behavior and he deserves to deal with all of the backlash and suspension that will come along with it.
But, I think Dorsey's approach is necessary for that team. He has to be willing to sacrifice a little bit for talent to get them back on the map and stop people from using them as the butt end of every NFL joke when discussing anything associated with failure, hopelessness, etc.
You can be more deliberate about the type of guys you sign when you're a little more established. But for the Browns, beggars can't be choosers and Hunt is a very talented kid who, paired with Chubb, and Johnson's pass catching prowess, will give the Browns one of the best RB groups in football.
Look at all of the early first round picks and picks they've had in general lately.
Winning 4 total games in 3 entire football seasons will afford you the ability to draft some top flight talent out of college and rebuild your roster.
Cleveland had tons of picks and cap space which allowed Dorsey to do some serious shopping for talent.
Mayfield, Ward, Chubb, Callaway, and Harrison all came through the 2018 draft.
Garrett, Peppers, and Njoku all came last year.
They spent money on Jarvis Landry and Carlos Hyde (who they eventually dealt to JAX to make room for Chubb to play)
Funny thing is, for all the credit they get... the Giants scored more points than they did and our defense was basically right on par with theirs.
But it's what I keep saying about a turnaround needing more than one season. Obviously going from 0 wins to 7 is a major improvement and a necessary stepping stone. But the Browns still have work to do.
I think they took a major step in the right direction this year and finally have their QB.
But I'd hope they'd have been able to accumulate talent after 4 wins in 48 tries. It's almost hard to stay THAT bad for more than a few years.
Unless you can play at a high level, of course. Funny, is someone who defrauds a company entitled to a second chance to work there?
If not, then fraud is worst than hitting a woman?
Oh, and here's the official NFL Video. I guess it had an expiration date.
NFL players say 'No more' to domestic violence - ( New Window )