Here are four free agent signings that I would try and sign
RT Daryl Williams - 5 year/$40m
(contract similar to Bobbie Massie)
2019 $3.8m
2020 $8.3m
2021 $9.3m
2022 $9.3m
2023 $9.3m
RG Jamon Brown - 3 year/$15.5m
(contract similar to Patrick Omameh)
2019 $2.5m
2020 $6.5m
2021 $6.5m
SS Landon Collins - 6 year/$78m
(contract similar to Eric Berry)
2019 $5m
2020 $13m
2021 $16.5m
2022 $13.5m
2023 $16m
2024 $14m
FS Ha-Ha Clinton Dix - 5 year/$46m
(contract similar to Devin McCourty)
2019 $6m
2020 $8m
2021 $9.5m
2022 $10.5m
2023 $12m
It would require a $17.3m investment against the 2019 salary cap to sign these guys, but it solidifies key positions with younger veterans. These contracts do increase after 2019, but there will be sizeable contracts that will likely come off the books as well as an annual increase in the salary cap.
These signings enable us to look at using draft resources to address premium positions which would otherwise require significant salary cap investments (such as edge rusher)
At this stage I expect we will retain Olivier Vernon and Janoris Jenkins for 2019 and try to be in a position to be able to move on from them in 2020. Ideally I would like to move on from the contracts of Olivier Vernon, Janoris Jenkins and Alec Ogeltree. I think all three are being over paid (as is the nature of free agency), but I don't think we are in a position to do so this year as we would need to find veteran replacements in free agency.
I used the Eric Berry deal which while top of the market, if we want to lock up Collins, it could be what it will take to sign him long term.
The key with the deal is how it is structured. Collins will have to perform to warrant the back end of the contract.
Unlike the franchise tag, with these contracts we can sign Landon Collins and Ha-Ha Clinton Dix for a shade less than what it would cost to franchise Landon Collins for the 2019 season. The safety franchise tag will be a little under $12m, but it will increase over coming years.
Landon Collins is the type of player you can build the defence around. Getting a veteran FS will allow him to play more aggressively which plays to his strengths imho.
williams imo is a must have. sure up the OL in FA and then go edge rusher and LB in the draft
I went with Dix because he is solid, very experienced and durable plus he played with Collins in college. I am pretty sure he will be available. But realistically there are a number of ways we can go in free agency including Mathieu, Amos, Thomas, Tre Boston, Joyner etc.
Mathieu is an option and is a playmaker, but he does tend to get banged up. I am not sure Houston let him go.
Thomas is over 30 and you aren't going to be able to back load a long term contract. I would prefer a younger guy we can pair with Collins and lock up our safeties for the next few years (while we overhaul CB, OLB etc.)
Tre Boston is a wild card imho, he was drafted by Gettleman in the 4th round of the 2014 draft.
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I used the Eric Berry deal which while top of the market, if we want to lock up Collins, it could be what it will take to sign him long term.
The key with the deal is how it is structured. Collins will have to perform to warrant the back end of the contract.
Unlike the franchise tag, with these contracts we can sign Landon Collins and Ha-Ha Clinton Dix for a shade less than what it would cost to franchise Landon Collins for the 2019 season. The safety franchise tag will be a little under $12m, but it will increase over coming years.
Landon Collins is the type of player you can build the defence around. Getting a veteran FS will allow him to play more aggressively which plays to his strengths imho.
All valid points, and it really comes down to guaranteed money. Playing Collins to his strength is really my concern, Bettcher didn’t do it well before he got hurt. But to your point that was heavily due to personnel
But I did not see your guarantee money or bonus money(the real numbers.
Take Williams:
Would give him 5/$40 with 20 mill bonus $$ and then lower the salary.
Today's FA deals are all about the guarantee $$.
Enough with people saying that they're going to stop rooting for the Giants if the team does something they don't agree with.
1. No you won't.
2. If I'm wrong and you do stop rooting for the Giants... Who Cares?
Williams is a tricky one. If he's healthy he's a much better player than Massie, the health is the if so you run the risk you get nothing. Being back to Wheeler would be an issue.
Clinton-Dix is solid but I don't feel he's worth that kind of money. I'd look to get a veteran but maybe at a cheaper price.
I like Landon Collins but we should be looking at $9m p.a as the high water mark for him. Otherwise I'd just transition tag him.
Realistically if we come away with Collins, Williams and Brown or an equivalent player; that would and should be the extent of our free agency. The rest would be lower level signings like Michael Thomas types and I don't mean to diminish his skill sets because he is a valuable contributor.
I say should because we would have chosen to go with some of our own higher priced veterans - Vernon and Eli and to a lesser extent Jenkins that easily could have been cut. We should not have delusions that we are a Super Bowl contender so the focus should be on giving younger guys a chance.
I would rather draft a RT and bring in FA guards
Both should be *relatively* inexpensive, and ascending young players.
Williams just makes so much sense. I hope that happens for a reasonable deal.
As always, the veteran cuts are going to be very interesting. Plenty of serviceable vets will unexpectedly hit the market.
2. Daryl Williams had a very serious injury in 2018 and not 1 BBI poster has been able to say the guy has made a full recovery. I cannot find any info on his rehab.
Agreed but one aspect you didn't mention - Taylor Moton.
2nd round pick out of Western Michigan who played at a high level once Williams went down. I'm sure they prefer the healthy, cheaper option.
Moton's success makes me even more confident Gettleman knows what he is doing with offensive linemen.