...after all...
Hypothetically, IF Arizona takes Kyler Murray #1 overall, they’ll have to move Rosen. I would think this would have to take place after the draft. At that point, going into the summer and through the summer teams will be set at QB for the season, including the Giants. Why not, if this scenario plays out, trade for our QB of the future with a 2nd or 3rd round pick in the 2020 draft?
With this scenario, we can draft for our “infrastructure” and keep looking to win ASAP with Eli and company while landing his future replacement in Josh Rosen.
Just a thought. I’d like to hear what BBI thinks about this.
It's ONE year folks...one more year...than you go nuts on O and QB.
1. You are very critical of the idea that the Giants may bring Eli back. If you aren’t a believer in DG/PS, isn’t this a good thing? Give the regime another year to win with Eli, but a clean slate in 2020 going forward if they don’t. I’d rather start GM/HC/QB on the same timeline.
2. I don’t think the Giants will be thinking about rookie contracts with QB’s. I think they are debating who can give the another Eli like run in the position. If Rosen fits that, I think they’ll pursue.
Rd 2 - Choose among OC Garret Bradbury, OG Chris Lindstrom, OC/OG Elgton Jenkins
Rd 4 and beyond along with free agency; go defense heavy plus you have Sam Beal en route
1. You are very critical of the idea that the Giants may bring Eli back. If you aren’t a believer in DG/PS, isn’t this a good thing? Give the regime another year to win with Eli, but a clean slate in 2020 going forward if they don’t. I’d rather start GM/HC/QB on the same timeline.
2. I don’t think the Giants will be thinking about rookie contracts with QB’s. I think they are debating who can give the another Eli like run in the position. If Rosen fits that, I think they’ll pursue.
1. I'd agree if I thought they'd fire Gettleman and Shurmur after a poor 2019. I'm not sure they would. Maybe Shurmur, but I'd be shocked if Gettleman is replaced. Further, on a personal level I don't want to see another indignity done to Eli's career when he retires with a sub-.500 record.
2. I agree here as well, and that is what's so depressing about the current state of affairs.
If AZ would give him up for our #2 this year I'd pull the trigger. But I think it would be much more likely AZ would ask for a 2020 #1 and I'm not so sure I'd do that.
The Giants have some good players but also some MAJOR gaping holes as well, especially on defense and the OL. We could actually be better on offense but finish 4-12 and have a top 7 pick next year!
Rosen for a #2 and late round pick? I think DG would be stupid to pass that up. Acquiring Rosen would mean this is Eli's last season with the team. Or do you cut Eli? I'm just not sure.
Rd 2 - Choose among OC Garret Bradbury, OG Chris Lindstrom, OC/OG Elgton Jenkins
Rd 4 and beyond along with free agency; go defense heavy plus you have Sam Beal en route
Half of BBI doesn’t think we have a QB problem and won’t until Eli Manning retires from the NFL.
Not if they were higher on Barkley...much higher, which everybody else refuses to believe. Rosen was one of the guys that Mara flew out to meet with wasnt he?
That would be a huge score for the Giants if we were able to add a guy like Daryl(?) Williams, re-sign Brown to solidify the line, get Rosen for a pick they would use on a QB anyways amd still have the best player in probably the last several drafts on the team already.
I was never the hugest Rosen fan, but he throws a gorgeous ball and we have an alleged QB whisperer who can coach him up. I liked the poster's (I think Big Pete?) idea for FA moves that was posted last night that included Williams, Brown, re-signing Collins and going out to get Clinton-Dix or Mathieu at FS.
Rosen
Rd 2 Nasir Addrely
Rd 2a Garrett Bradbury
or
Haskins
Rd 2 Garrett Bradbury
don't get too locked into the draft picks, its only meant for color
If we could pull off getting their second round pick that would be quite a get. This draft has a ton of red chippers.
No they wouldnt of. They were giving Eli the chance to play out his contract. If Rosen comes he sits behind Eli (unless Eli stinks it up), I think there preferable route (Plan A) is a QB at #6 but if Haskins/Lock go before then and Rosen is still in play they could pull the trigger.
No, that's bad logic.
Does that mean the Giants weren't high on any player in the draft because they picked Barkley? That doesn't seem like a yes.
No because they had Barkley rated higher. As did everyone else. Think about it
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if Gettleman & Shurmur were high on Rosen they would have taken him over Barkley? Think about it.
No because they had Barkley rated higher. As did everyone else. Think about it
I'm sure they had Barkley rated higher. But if the Giants thought Rosen could be a franchise guy, they would have taken him.
Folks will see late April.