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Boomer on quarterbacks........again

joeinpa : 2/12/2019 9:51 am
Ok, Let me get the preliminaries out of the way:

- Boomer hates the Giants
- Boomer is jealous of Eli
- Boomer is not connected that well in NFL circles
- Boomer has a track record of being wrong
- Boomer is a douch

Think that about covers the views of Boomer on this site, I m in the minority that pays attention to what he says........got it.

He believes Giants were proven right with the Barkley pick, even though he believes in last years qb class

He believes Haskins is everything those guys were and that the Giants will fall in love with him at the combine and pro day.

Believes much like Mayfield, this kid believes he can play in the NFL, is excited by the opportunity, and will not find the spotlight of New York to be too much.

His partner Gio added, if Giants could come out of this with Barkley and a quarterback, not bad.

Boomer though believe Giants will have to move up to get him.

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Haskins accuracy is amazing and his ball position as well.  
VinegarPeppers : 2/12/2019 4:03 pm : link
He's the perfect QB for a team loaded with playmakers. First, he's not 5'9, he's 6'3. He's also a life long Giants fan...a local kid.

The kid will need to learn the progressions of the pro game, but Eli will be a great experience for him.

I'll never understand mobility as a first priority, even though Haskins has plenty. He's not an athletic freak but he's a good athlete. His accuracy and ball placement is freakish though.

He sits behind Eli for a season and steps in for 12+ years.
'Boomer though believe Giants will have to move up to get him'...  
Torrag : 2/12/2019 4:04 pm : link
Boomer is right about that.
RE: RE: And the link above for reference he wasn't hit all that hard  
Zeke's Alibi : 2/12/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14294607 twostepgiants said:
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In comment 14294591 Zeke's Alibi said:


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but you have a 300 lb plus man coming down on him with all his weight it just seems like it's a shoulder injury waiting to happen.



That hit, which didn’t hurt him and would be a penalty in NFL (meaning no QB is supposed to take that hit) - was by a 295 lb DL Quinnen Williams who is projected to be at top of draft.

Thus proving he can take these types of hits in NFL.


One - he didn't hit him in a way that would separate his shoulder, the brunt of his weight fell on his helmet. The hits that do that tend to be when the qb falls with his shoulders perpendicular to the ground with weight falling on top. Two - a sample size of one (not that even is 1) doesn't prove anything.
RE: RE: RE: ehh  
Eman11 : 2/12/2019 4:35 pm : link
In comment 14294575 Gmen1982 said:
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In comment 14294302 UConn4523 said:


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he's batting the same average as most guys in his position. I don't care about the Eli/Giants/Jealous angle, doesn't mean much to me. I care about what he says about the QB's, their attributes, the process of being a rookie, etc. all of which he knows about more than any of us.

He loved Mayfield, he loved Darnold, and he loves Haskins. He's definitively correct on Mayfield and probably Darnold. I don't think he's far off on Haskins.



That's fine if you don't care about his angle but the fact is he does have a bias when it comes to the Giants/Eli and it makes it tough to take anything he says about them as being objective.

He can say he's objective all he wants but anyone who's listened to him enough knows that's not the case when it comes to the Giants/Eli.



I've heard him praise Eli just as much as attack him. Maybe some of you don't listen objectively.


Maybe you just haven't listened to him enough. His anti Eli bias is a running gag on his show even though he continues to insist he doesn't have one.

Eg, today when he started in on the Haskins thing his own board op dropped in one of his classic drops of a hammer being banged on a table with Boomer's voice saying Eli sucks played over it. Meaning here we go again with the Eli bashing, Everyone on the show got it and laughed except Boomer who went on his lame "NARP" call out of the guys in his show.
RE: RE: Haskins may be a twitch quicker than Eli.  
SHO'NUFF : 2/12/2019 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14294445 Giantology said:
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But looks slower than Stafford and Big Ben. If he's as quick as Big Ben, then that's something to talk about. But from what I've seen, it's painful. But then again, I'm shell shocked from watching Eli move in mud all these years.



Brilliant. Going to stop reading Sy's posts and stop going to other scouting websites, we got SHO'NUFFs eyes on the top prospects and that is all one needs.


Very funny, guy. At what point do I say MY observation is the ultimate analysis and my word is law?
RE: Dwayne Haskins isn't a statue....I don't know how many times  
Pan-handler : 2/12/2019 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14294405 Zeke's Alibi said:
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this has to be said. He is a pocket passer who always looks pass first. This can't be said enough. Watch the video in the link than tell me the guy is a statue. I keep seeing you say this like it's some sort of fact when there is plenty of video evidence to the contrary. Link - ( New Window )


Haskins is not an elite scrambler by any stretch but he's plenty more mobile than Eli.
Who?  
Paulie Walnuts : 2/12/2019 7:55 pm : link
via Imgflip Meme Generator
If Haskins is the Real Thing  
Samiam : 2/12/2019 8:01 pm : link
He won’t be there at 6. If he’s there at 6, he’s probably not the real thing. What I’m wondering is if some team will decide that Murray represents the next generation QB given his athletic ability & grabs him before Haskins
RE: If Haskins is the Real Thing  
Zeke's Alibi : 2/12/2019 8:05 pm : link
In comment 14294902 Samiam said:
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He won’t be there at 6. If he’s there at 6, he’s probably not the real thing. What I’m wondering is if some team will decide that Murray represents the next generation QB given his athletic ability & grabs him before Haskins


So Mahomes isn't the real thing. Desaun Watson isn't the real thing. This is very faulty thinking.
This thread screams to me why the opinions on BBI  
Jimmy Googs : 2/12/2019 10:08 pm : link
are so laughable relative to whether (fill in the blank name) will be good, bad or indifferent as the next NY Giant QB.

I am not stating that I know better than you all, but I also don't make some of these ridiculous assertions you all do based on a few video clips, isolated games watched and group-think posts you all rely upon in portraying your views.

With that said though, we sure as shit need a new QB so maybe one of you blind squirrels will find a nut out there too...

RE: If Haskins is the Real Thing  
Ssanders9816 : 2/12/2019 10:09 pm : link
In comment 14294902 Samiam said:
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He won’t be there at 6. If he’s there at 6, he’s probably not the real thing. What I’m wondering is if some team will decide that Murray represents the next generation QB given his athletic ability & grabs him before Haskins


This is some of the worst logic ever. Like in the history of mankind.
Paulie  
joeinpa : 2/13/2019 7:11 am : link
Same amount of rings as Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Phillip Rivers, and a host of other pretty fair quarterbacks
I wanted a QB last year at #2...  
bw in dc : 2/13/2019 7:24 am : link
and want one this year at #6.

I’ve tried very hard to convince myself someone is worth the stretch, but, alas, no one is worth the investment at #6 this year. Every damn one of these guys has a part of their game that is a major question mark.

Trade down or wait until the second round to take the risk.
make decisions on a guy based on a 5 minute youtube clip.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/13/2019 8:27 am : link
"I didn't like what I saw"

Ok, pro scout.
Wait, which QB last year didn't have  
Chris684 : 2/13/2019 9:49 am : link
a fairly large question mark?
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