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Buccaneers cut DE Vinny Curry after 1 year

Vin_Cuccs : 2/12/2019 10:19 am
They will save 8 million against the cap.

Via Pro Football Talk on Twitter.
Curry’s 30  
The_Boss : 2/12/2019 10:22 am : link
Was a rotational guy mostly in Philly. He might not have the wear and tear as most edge rushers. The previous regime liked him back in the day. He might be a cheaper option to help us out rushing the passer?
RE: Curry’s 30  
Big Rick in FL : 2/12/2019 10:29 am : link
In comment 14294353 The_Boss said:
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Was a rotational guy mostly in Philly. He might not have the wear and tear as most edge rushers. The previous regime liked him back in the day. He might be a cheaper option to help us out rushing the passer?


No. He's not a good pass rusher. He's a good run stopper. Doesn't fit in a 3-4 and that's part of the reason the Bucs cut him. He's only had over 4 sacks once in his career and that was in 2014. I wouldn't touch him unless he'd sign for the vet minimum.
I remember the rumors a few years ago  
smshmth8690 : 2/12/2019 11:21 am : link
that the Giants were going to try and sign him, but Philthy resigned him before he got to free agency.
Apparently he wanted out of Tampa Bay  
Vin_Cuccs : 2/12/2019 11:51 am : link
Because they are moving to a 3-4 front, and he only wants to play in a 4-3.
Bucks D was garbage Last Year  
ZogZerg : 2/12/2019 11:56 am : link
Hard pass.
RE: I remember the rumors a few years ago  
Anakim : 2/12/2019 11:59 am : link
In comment 14294418 smshmth8690 said:
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that the Giants were going to try and sign him, but Philthy resigned him before he got to free agency.


I think that might've been Brandon Graham?
it was  
JonC : 2/12/2019 12:35 pm : link
Graham.
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Go Terps : 2/12/2019 12:38 pm : link
I think you're better off signing 2 or 3 guys of Curry's level and cost than you are signing one Vernon. Yeah, Curry isn't as good a player, but there's something to be said for having depth and the ability to rotate in fresh pass rushers in the fourth quarter.
RE: .  
Sean : 2/12/2019 12:58 pm : link
In comment 14294525 Go Terps said:
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I think you're better off signing 2 or 3 guys of Curry's level and cost than you are signing one Vernon. Yeah, Curry isn't as good a player, but there's something to be said for having depth and the ability to rotate in fresh pass rushers in the fourth quarter.


Yup & a much less top heavy roster with regards to the cap as well.
Kick the tires?  
SterlingArcher : 2/12/2019 3:23 pm : link
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RE: Kick the tires?  
Anakim : 2/12/2019 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14294679 SterlingArcher said:
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If he doesn't want to play for a 3-4...I mean...
RE: RE: I remember the rumors a few years ago  
smshmth8690 : 2/12/2019 4:38 pm : link
In comment 14294479 Anakim said:
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In comment 14294418 smshmth8690 said:


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that the Giants were going to try and sign him, but Philthy resigned him before he got to free agency.



I think that might've been Brandon Graham?



Could have been, but there was interest in Curry too.
Not sure having a lot of old mediocre players  
WillieYoung : 2/12/2019 4:44 pm : link
has ever been a winning strategy in the NFL.
I was..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/12/2019 4:52 pm : link
thinking the same thing!

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Not sure having a lot of old mediocre players
WillieYoung : 4:44 pm : link : reply
has ever been a winning strategy in the NFL.


People had a cow over Omameah and Stewart, yet would be fine with a strategy of overpaid, older mediocre players?

This place is brutally strange sometimes.
RE: Not sure having a lot of old mediocre players  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/12/2019 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14294767 WillieYoung said:
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has ever been a winning strategy in the NFL.


Nor is giving Cap crushing contracts to guys who haven never been at that level. Vernon had never played near the level of cash he got before. Then he got injured all the time. You win buy drafting great and fill in w FA judiciously. Neither of Reese’s talents
RE: .  
WillVAB : 2/12/2019 11:20 pm : link
In comment 14294525 Go Terps said:
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I think you're better off signing 2 or 3 guys of Curry's level and cost than you are signing one Vernon. Yeah, Curry isn't as good a player, but there's something to be said for having depth and the ability to rotate in fresh pass rushers in the fourth quarter.


Yes and no. If you’re adding mid range FA’s to round out an already talented unit then it can work out. But if you’re counting on those guys to be your pass rush then it’s just as bad as a Vernon deal.

I think it’s actually worse from a cap perspective when mid range FA’s don’t work out. There’s no value in a potential trade and they’re usually harder to cut given the minimal cap savings. Guys like Casillas, Thomas, Dwayne Harris, Ellison, etc were w the Giants longer than they should’ve been and cumulatively added up to big money.
Vinny Curry  
Big_Pete : 2/14/2019 5:50 am : link
I would be ok with kicking the tyres on Vinny Curry as an OLB if he is available for a reasonable contract. He could be a good solid veteran to add to our OLB rotation while we develop younger guys.

I don't think Curry is a quality starter or the saviour for our pass rush, but I think he can contribute as a solid rotation guy. I think Curry can provide the kind of role that we ideally wanted from Connor Barwin.

It is worth noting that our new OLB coach Mike Dawson coached Curry with the Eagles.
RE: RE: Curry’s 30  
Big_Pete : 2/14/2019 7:52 am : link
In comment 14294360 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 14294353 The_Boss said:


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Was a rotational guy mostly in Philly. He might not have the wear and tear as most edge rushers. The previous regime liked him back in the day. He might be a cheaper option to help us out rushing the passer?



No. He's not a good pass rusher. He's a good run stopper. Doesn't fit in a 3-4 and that's part of the reason the Bucs cut him. He's only had over 4 sacks once in his career and that was in 2014. I wouldn't touch him unless he'd sign for the vet minimum.


The Eagles played a 3-4 under Chip Kelly. Looking at Vinnie Curry's stats is interesting

2013: 14 GP, 23 tackles, 4 sacks, 7 QB hits
2014: 16 GP, 19 tackles, 9 sacks, 11 QB hits
2015: 16 GP, 12 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 15 QB hits

Curry is certainly a rotational player, but he has proven to be productive in a 3-4 scheme.

It is also worth mentioning that our new OLB coach Mike Dawson was the Eagles assistant Dline coach in 2014 and 2015, so he will have a very good idea of what Vinny Curry brings to the table and how well (or not) he fits into what Bettcher wants to do.
Maybe we can recapture the magic of the Connor Barwin signing.  
Big Blue Blogger : 2/16/2019 12:22 am : link
Different players, of course, but their career arcs are pretty similar. By most measures, Barwin was better - at least in a 3-4. I doubt 31-year-old Vinny Curry would be much of an improvement over the 2018 edition of 31-year-old Connor Barwin.
Signing three Vinny Currys is at least as bad as overpaying one  
widmerseyebrow : 2/16/2019 12:30 am : link
Olivier Vernon. How is that the inverse or a preferable solution?
RE: Signing three Vinny Currys is at least as bad as overpaying one  
Go Terps : 2/16/2019 4:23 am : link
In comment 14297958 widmerseyebrow said:
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Olivier Vernon. How is that the inverse or a preferable solution?


Because you're more protected against injury, you're asking each guy to do less, and you can get out of each contract much more quickly and cheaply.
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