Down 23 points with under 9 minutes left in the game. Just a miraculous comeback in Duke History. 15 turnovers and 11 steals by Duke in that stretch. Just wow.
I agree. For the most part, great kids with the exception of Grayson Allen, great grad rate and their coach is a class act.
I don't like them because they are a bunch of floppers and the whole lot of them whine over every, single call when they get 99 percent of the calls in their favor. But noooo, if that 1 percent goes against them, you would think they are victims
I agree. For the most part, great kids with the exception of Grayson Allen, great grad rate and their coach is a class act.
Great grad rate? I mean, i have no doubt that the white kids on the end of the bench that only play in November against West App State do graduate.... but what an odd thing to say about a program that has fully embraced one-and-done for almost a decade now.
Classy stuff like lecturing a player from a team that just beat his, then lying publicly about what he said. Like petitioning the NCAA to have the 1994-95 games removed from his holy coaching record and making his low-paid longtime assistant the scapegoat. Like lying for years about Terry Holland playing Ralph Sampson all game in a 109-66 UVA blowout win over Duke in the 1983 ACC tournament, when in fact he played just 18 minutes due to foul trouble. Like subjecting the student sportswriters from the Duke newspaper to an angry, profane tirade because he was pissy about a critical story. Like blaming Roy Williams for Gerald Henderson cheap-shotting Tyler Hansbrough and breaking his nose, because he didn't take Hansbrough out of a game Carolina was going to win.
Great grad rate? I mean, i have no doubt that the white kids on the end of the bench that only play in November against West App State do graduate.... but what an odd thing to say about a program that has fully embraced one-and-done for almost a decade now.
And of the classes they do take, how many are at NC Central rather than Duke?
Great grad rate? I mean, i have no doubt that the white kids on the end of the bench that only play in November against West App State do graduate.... but what an odd thing to say about a program that has fully embraced one-and-done for almost a decade now.
And of the classes they do take, how many are at NC Central rather than Duke?
You guys are both wrong. Duke and Notre Dame both have an over 80% grad rate for black male athletes.
Try again Greg. You're a hater and your team still is the only one seed to get knocked out of the tournament on day one.
A great coach gets his players to play above their talent level
The players are amazing, and desrving. The school and conference are awesome. It really is just one guy making 25M/year as one of the biggest pretenders in college basketball.
A great coach transforms assistant coaches into good coaches
Coach K hasn't done that.
A great coach is an inspiration to everyone who plays the game.
Coach K just sucks at that.
I don't like K and think he's a phony fraud ... but this take is absurd.
Chopper - your 80%+ black male stat is basketball only or all Duke sports? What time horizon? Because ... again... Duke has embraced the one and done for a decade now. And does anyone really care if the end of team benches (guys 10th to 15th on the depth chart) graduate or not? They're on the team to mop up against terrible competition and play scout team in practice.
RE: RE: A great coach gets his players to play above their talent level
A great coach transforms assistant coaches into good coaches
Coach K hasn't done that.
A great coach is an inspiration to everyone who plays the game.
Coach K just sucks at that.
I don't like K and think he's a phony fraud ... but this take is absurd.
Chopper - your 80%+ black male stat is basketball only or all Duke sports? What time horizon? Because ... again... Duke has embraced the one and done for a decade now. And does anyone really care if the end of team benches (guys 10th to 15th on the depth chart) graduate or not? They're on the team to mop up against terrible competition and play scout team in practice.
Imean....it wasnt dialed down to specofic sport. However, I have zero problem with a player going one and done to pursue a basketball career and postpone finishing college later. I wouldnt begrudge anybody that.
basketball has a 100% "GSR Rate" from 2008 to 2011, but look at the disclaimer:
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Graduation Success Rates include student-athletes who are on scholarship their first year and who graduate from their respective university, or transfer to another school or leave to play professional sports while in good academic standing.
basketball has a 100% "GSR Rate" from 2008 to 2011, but look at the disclaimer:
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Graduation Success Rates include student-athletes who are on scholarship their first year and who graduate from their respective university, or transfer to another school or leave to play professional sports while in good academic standing.
Fatman, I understand your skepticism, but the same article had UNC as 14th in the ACC using the same metrics and FSU as dead last.
that if you have 5 guys leave for the pros, as long as they were in good standing, they count as "graduating".
Yea gotcha there. However I would think that those numbers should be affected by football and baseball programs too...both of which UNC and FSU are far superior than Duke. But I accept your point that it prob isnt all a result of Coach K's influence and guidance.
My stance is hes a good coach, a good guy and have no problem giving him the credit.
Plus, my alma mater didnt have to deal with them year after year. Now Nova on the other hand.....lol.
Good coach - yes, of course. Hall of Famer obviously.
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They are a great basketball program.
I wonder how many Duke haters are Yankee fans...
I agree. For the most part, great kids with the exception of Grayson Allen, great grad rate and their coach is a class act.
I don't like them because they are a bunch of floppers and the whole lot of them whine over every, single call when they get 99 percent of the calls in their favor. But noooo, if that 1 percent goes against them, you would think they are victims
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They are a great basketball program.
I wonder how many Duke haters are Yankee fans...
I agree. For the most part, great kids with the exception of Grayson Allen, great grad rate and their coach is a class act.
Great grad rate? I mean, i have no doubt that the white kids on the end of the bench that only play in November against West App State do graduate.... but what an odd thing to say about a program that has fully embraced one-and-done for almost a decade now.
Great grad rate? I mean, i have no doubt that the white kids on the end of the bench that only play in November against West App State do graduate.... but what an odd thing to say about a program that has fully embraced one-and-done for almost a decade now.
And of the classes they do take, how many are at NC Central rather than Duke?
Did you go to MKA?
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Kyrie irving went to my HS. I was so conflicted. At least it was only for one season
You go to MKA or St Pats?
jester's, my sister went to MKA while Kyrie attended for that year.
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Great grad rate? I mean, i have no doubt that the white kids on the end of the bench that only play in November against West App State do graduate.... but what an odd thing to say about a program that has fully embraced one-and-done for almost a decade now.
And of the classes they do take, how many are at NC Central rather than Duke?
You guys are both wrong. Duke and Notre Dame both have an over 80% grad rate for black male athletes.
Try again Greg. You're a hater and your team still is the only one seed to get knocked out of the tournament on day one.
Coach K doesn't do that. Not even close.
A great coach transforms assistant coaches into good coaches
Coach K hasn't done that.
A great coach is an inspiration to everyone who plays the game.
Coach K just sucks at that.
The players are amazing, and desrving. The school and conference are awesome. It really is just one guy making 25M/year as one of the biggest pretenders in college basketball.
The sustained excellence is really a thing of beauty.
His program is a helluva lot cleaner than Woonden's at UCLA, the other comparable program in the sport's history...
Coach K doesn't do that. Not even close.
A great coach transforms assistant coaches into good coaches
Coach K hasn't done that.
A great coach is an inspiration to everyone who plays the game.
Coach K just sucks at that.
I don't like K and think he's a phony fraud ... but this take is absurd.
Chopper - your 80%+ black male stat is basketball only or all Duke sports? What time horizon? Because ... again... Duke has embraced the one and done for a decade now. And does anyone really care if the end of team benches (guys 10th to 15th on the depth chart) graduate or not? They're on the team to mop up against terrible competition and play scout team in practice.
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Coach K doesn't do that. Not even close.
A great coach transforms assistant coaches into good coaches
Coach K hasn't done that.
A great coach is an inspiration to everyone who plays the game.
Coach K just sucks at that.
I don't like K and think he's a phony fraud ... but this take is absurd.
Chopper - your 80%+ black male stat is basketball only or all Duke sports? What time horizon? Because ... again... Duke has embraced the one and done for a decade now. And does anyone really care if the end of team benches (guys 10th to 15th on the depth chart) graduate or not? They're on the team to mop up against terrible competition and play scout team in practice.
Imean....it wasnt dialed down to specofic sport. However, I have zero problem with a player going one and done to pursue a basketball career and postpone finishing college later. I wouldnt begrudge anybody that.
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Graduation Success Rates include student-athletes who are on scholarship their first year and who graduate from their respective university, or transfer to another school or leave to play professional sports while in good academic standing.
Fatman, I understand your skepticism, but the same article had UNC as 14th in the ACC using the same metrics and FSU as dead last.
Yea gotcha there. However I would think that those numbers should be affected by football and baseball programs too...both of which UNC and FSU are far superior than Duke. But I accept your point that it prob isnt all a result of Coach K's influence and guidance.
My stance is hes a good coach, a good guy and have no problem giving him the credit.
Plus, my alma mater didnt have to deal with them year after year. Now Nova on the other hand.....lol.