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NFT: Fangraphs Top 100 (Really Top 130)

ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 2/13/2019 9:42 am
Think this is the best of the bunch for prospect dealings. Some key players for some of the local teams:

Vlad Jr, Franco, and Tatis Jr. are 1-3, with Whitley and Robles rounding out the top 5.


Yankees
106- Estevan Florial

Mets
48- Peter Alonso
53- Andres Gimenez
68- Ronny Mauricio
92- Mark Vientos

Red Sox and Royals are the only 2 teams without a player in the top 130.

In the AL East, the Rays lead the way with 10 players in the top 130. Testament to a loaded system. Blue Jays have two players in the top 10 (Vlad Jr and Bo Bichette).

In the NL East, the Braves also have 10 players in the top 130, with 6 in the top 50, and the lowest at 72.

Regarding traded players from each system:
Justus Sheffield (Seattle)- #60
Jarred Kelenic (Seattle)- #84
Justin Dunn (Seattle)- #89
Taylor Widener (Arizona)- #102
Nick Solak (Tampa)- #111

Really great writeups in there.
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Happy and surprised to  
Metnut : 2/13/2019 9:48 am : link
see the Mets with 4 in the top 100. No one in the top 100 for the Yankees? I thought they had a good system?
Vlad Jr  
DanMetroMan : 2/13/2019 9:52 am : link
is the best pure hitting prospect I can remember since following the minors. Doesn't mean he will outpace guys like Mike Trout but pound for pound at the same stage, nobody has been more impressive. He's that good.
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ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 2/13/2019 9:53 am : link
In comment 14295196 Metnut said:
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see the Mets with 4 in the top 100. No one in the top 100 for the Yankees? I thought they had a good system?


Besides the recent graduations to the bigs (Torres, Andujar, Frazier). The Yanks system as described in the individual team write-up is more of what they are. High upside, but high variance guys, that are all extremely young.

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Because more and more teams have placed value on certainty and player proximity to the majors, the Yankees have been able to flip a bunch of relievers in their mid-20s for young, high-variance players who have sizable upside if things click. Our prospect asset values put big numbers on 50 FV or higher guys, and the Yankees only have one of those, so they won’t rank highly in our farm system rankings. But they definitely have the most of the high ceiling, high-variance sorts, including a few who, as we point out in the scouting reports, could be Top 100 caliber by midseason, giving the Yankees a high likelihood of moving into the top half of systems during 2019, barring trades.

When we spoke with scouts who were excited about talent from the low levels of this system, we asked why their team hadn’t traded for one of those players. The answer? The Yankees won’t discuss them


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This, combined with a strong international program and a willingness to acquire additional pool space in recent years, has helped lead to a whopping 58% of the players on this prospect list being teenagers. On average, this is the youngest farm system we’ve written up so far, with players in the 35+ FV or better tiers averaging 20.2 years old, two years younger than in most other systems.


Lot more variance in their system, so they might take some time to develop.
Dan  
Chris684 : 2/13/2019 9:57 am : link
Why would the Mets with Rosario + 2 top 100 SS prospects include Kelenic in the Diaz deal, or furthermore, pursue any deal with Kelenic as the centerpiece, when the organization is low on OF depth?

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DanMetroMan : 2/13/2019 10:00 am : link
In comment 14295206 Chris684 said:
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Why would the Mets with Rosario + 2 top 100 SS prospects include Kelenic in the Diaz deal, or furthermore, pursue any deal with Kelenic as the centerpiece, when the organization is low on OF depth?


The Mariners likely insisted on Kelenic being part of the deal. Likely simple as that. Mauricio has major boom or bust potential, far from a sure thing and some view Gimenez as having limited upside (not saying I agree or disagree) but if that's the Mariners view and the Mets didn't want to rob Peter to pay Paul (dealing Rosario = no big league SS). The Mariners also just traded for Crawford so my guess is they simply insisted on Kelenic vs. the Mets being so insistent it be Kelenic over say Mauricio.
RE: Dan  
Metnut : 2/13/2019 10:01 am : link
In comment 14295206 Chris684 said:
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Why would the Mets with Rosario + 2 top 100 SS prospects include Kelenic in the Diaz deal, or furthermore, pursue any deal with Kelenic as the centerpiece, when the organization is low on OF depth?


They probably really wanted Diaz and the Mariners insisted on Kelenic.

Mets absolutely need OF depth but should be set in the corner OFs for a few years with Nimmo and Conforto.
Shit  
DanMetroMan : 2/13/2019 10:02 am : link
or get off the pot time for Dez Lindsay this year. Either he hits or he's just not a prospect at all. He's barely one as it is.
I'm glad that the Braves didn't trade two top 5 prospects  
Jay on the Island : 2/13/2019 10:05 am : link
for Realmuto. While it sucks that he went to the Phillies it'll be better for the long term especially since most of the Braves top prospects are in either AAA or AA.
RE: Shit  
Metnut : 2/13/2019 10:06 am : link
In comment 14295216 DanMetroMan said:
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or get off the pot time for Dez Lindsay this year. Either he hits or he's just not a prospect at all. He's barely one as it is.


LOL, I think you said something similar last year. Disappointing. I remember really liking the pick at the time too.
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Named Later : 2/13/2019 10:08 am : link
I don't recall the Mariners having any other teams interested in Cano's Contract......they had very little leverage. They wanted Gimenez. Give them Gimenez -- Keep Kelenec. Brody should have played hardball on that deal.

The friggin' Braves with 10 in the top 100 -- including a couple of pitchers. And this after promoting Acuna Junia. Heaven help us !!
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DanMetroMan : 2/13/2019 10:08 am : link
In comment 14295222 Metnut said:
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or get off the pot time for Dez Lindsay this year. Either he hits or he's just not a prospect at all. He's barely one as it is.



LOL, I think you said something similar last year. Disappointing. I remember really liking the pick at the time too.


Well after the season he would have to be added to the 40 man. That's simply not happening without him finally hitting. He changed his swing, well see if it means anything. He's been a total bust. Career .718 OPS. Hit .223 in 2018, .220 in 2017
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Jay on the Island : 2/13/2019 10:16 am : link
In comment 14295227 Named Later said:
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I don't recall the Mariners having any other teams interested in Cano's Contract......they had very little leverage. They wanted Gimenez. Give them Gimenez -- Keep Kelenec. Brody should have played hardball on that deal.

The friggin' Braves with 10 in the top 100 -- including a couple of pitchers. And this after promoting Acuna Junia. Heaven help us !!

After promoting Acuna Jr., Ozzie Albies, Sean Newcomb, and AJ Minter recently.
Braves  
DanMetroMan : 2/13/2019 10:18 am : link
reportedly offered up Riley in multiple deals and teams weren't that hot for him. I wonder why?
RE: Braves  
Jay on the Island : 2/13/2019 10:22 am : link
In comment 14295248 DanMetroMan said:
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reportedly offered up Riley in multiple deals and teams weren't that hot for him. I wonder why?

He was the centerpiece in the Realmuto deal. The Braves were willing to offer him but not another top prospect which the Marlins wanted which is why the deal fell through. I think they are willing to trade him because of the emergence of Camargo. The Braves will play him in a corner OF spot in spring training because of Donaldson and Camargo.
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DanMetroMan : 2/13/2019 10:24 am : link
In comment 14295254 Jay on the Island said:
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reportedly offered up Riley in multiple deals and teams weren't that hot for him. I wonder why?


He was the centerpiece in the Realmuto deal. The Braves were willing to offer him but not another top prospect which the Marlins wanted which is why the deal fell through. I think they are willing to trade him because of the emergence of Camargo. The Braves will play him in a corner OF spot in spring training because of Donaldson and Camargo.


One of the guys over at FG (I'm blanking which one) suggested he was shopped a bit and the interest/value was lower than anticipated. Not saying he won't be good but I found it interesting considering he's a consensus top 50 guy.
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Jay on the Island : 2/13/2019 10:28 am : link
In comment 14295257 DanMetroMan said:
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reportedly offered up Riley in multiple deals and teams weren't that hot for him. I wonder why?


He was the centerpiece in the Realmuto deal. The Braves were willing to offer him but not another top prospect which the Marlins wanted which is why the deal fell through. I think they are willing to trade him because of the emergence of Camargo. The Braves will play him in a corner OF spot in spring training because of Donaldson and Camargo.



One of the guys over at FG (I'm blanking which one) suggested he was shopped a bit and the interest/value was lower than anticipated. Not saying he won't be good but I found it interesting considering he's a consensus top 50 guy.

I wasn't suggesting you're wrong as everyone except Law is high on him. There were questions about his bat speed and defensive ability when he first arrived. He has become a very solid defender but we will see when he arrives.
I like what the Yankees did  
Dnew15 : 2/13/2019 10:33 am : link
to replenish their farm system. They had a nice young core all come up together (Torres, Sanchez, Andujar, Seve, Judge) so it would stand to reason that their young talent would all be teenagers (as far as positional players are concerned). They even went as far as to trade some of their upper-level talent in the farm system knowing they couldn't utilize them (Dustin Fowler) b/c their paths to playing time at the MLB level was blocked.
They are stacked with young arms that serve as lottery tickets for the rotation and the bullpen knowing that you can never have enough pitching.
If anything - the current status of the Yankees farm system and MLB roster proves one thing...it worked.
The Yanks' farm may be the youngest in baseball...  
Dunedin81 : 2/13/2019 10:35 am : link
per FG, the average age of their 35+ FV guys is 20.2, which is a full two years younger than most of the field.
It's not surprising that the Yankees have fallen  
Jay on the Island : 2/13/2019 10:37 am : link
because of all their promotions. In 2-3 years the Braves will likely be a bottom 10 farm system after the promotions and sanctions unless they continue to draft well which I am concerned about with a brand new director of scouting.
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Dunedin81 : 2/13/2019 10:39 am : link
In comment 14295274 Jay on the Island said:
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because of all their promotions. In 2-3 years the Braves will likely be a bottom 10 farm system after the promotions and sanctions unless they continue to draft well which I am concerned about with a brand new director of scouting.


Yeah I was thumbing through their BA list and while they have a remarkable number of high-end pitching prospects the quality really drops off in the teens, getting into guys with potential big league chops but clearly modest ceilings.
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Jay on the Island : 2/13/2019 11:17 am : link
In comment 14295276 Dunedin81 said:
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because of all their promotions. In 2-3 years the Braves will likely be a bottom 10 farm system after the promotions and sanctions unless they continue to draft well which I am concerned about with a brand new director of scouting.



Yeah I was thumbing through their BA list and while they have a remarkable number of high-end pitching prospects the quality really drops off in the teens, getting into guys with potential big league chops but clearly modest ceilings.

They have some high upside guys in the teens. Freddie Tarnok has great stuff, he's been compared to Degrom as he is a recent SS turned pitcher. Huascar Ynoa, Jaseel De La Cruz, Isranel Wilson, Trey Riley, Patrick Weigel, and Greyson Jenista have good upsides. The lower levels will likely be barren soon as they are all but out of this years IFA market and only have half their slot amount the following year.
And the Carter Stewart thing certainly didn't help in the short-term..  
Dunedin81 : 2/13/2019 11:23 am : link
though you'll have a good influx of talent from this year's draft.
RE: And the Carter Stewart thing certainly didn't help in the short-term..  
Jay on the Island : 2/13/2019 2:06 pm : link
In comment 14295376 Dunedin81 said:
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though you'll have a good influx of talent from this year's draft.

Not signing him really sucked because I was thrilled when they got Stewart. At least they have the 9th overall pick this year as consolation.
Eloy Jimenez  
Dave in PA : 2/13/2019 2:40 pm : link
I have no basis for staying this, other than his top status ranking, but I think he’s going to be a perennial all-star for the ChiSox. Interesting that he’s “only” 8th on that list.
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