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NJ high school proposal significantly limits tackling

Oscar : 2/13/2019 6:26 pm
In preseason and practices:

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The New Jersey State Interscholastic Athletic Association unanimously passed a historic mandate Wednesday at its monthly Executive Committee meeting regarding player-on-player practice contact -- i.e. tackling -- that will make New Jersey's year-round high school football regulations "the most restrictive" ever at any level of football.

The significant reduction includes limiting programs to just 15 minutes of full contact per week -- down from 90 minutes in 2018. That time, the NJSIAA said, does not include "thudding" periods - hitting without taking players to the ground.


Will be interesting to see the impact on the game in NJ if that goes through. Seems like it would matter a lot but I can’t really gauge it, I never played football at any level.
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Enough  
Devour the Day : 2/13/2019 6:31 pm : link
Just stop the charades and put a belt with flags dangling on them. Good lord.
Fucking  
kes722 : 2/13/2019 6:34 pm : link
Nanny state
why is football being singled out  
Chip : 2/13/2019 6:46 pm : link
All sports have there injuries. Downhill Skiers have worse medical records than football players. Gymnastics careers are over before 20 because the body cant compete anymore and with the falls come concussions. Boxers who have been hit to many times. It is ridiculous that it seems to center only around Football.
It’s a Jersey thing and  
jpetuch : 2/13/2019 6:47 pm : link
Especially a Jersey leachy lawyer thing
My daughter is a cheerleader in college  
Eli Wilson : 2/13/2019 6:53 pm : link
She's had multiple concussions, and yet no one gives a crap about protecting cheerleaders.
Just goes to show you can overdo just about anything  
JerseyCityJoe : 2/13/2019 7:30 pm : link
Why I played HS we hit every damm day but gameday. It was nuts just how barbaric our practices were. I'd come home pull off my shirt and my mother would cry seeing the mass of bruises I would normally have.

Do I like these limits? No. But I wish we had some limits or at least some sane coaches.
RE: why is football being singled out  
Matt M. : 2/13/2019 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14296036 Chip said:
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All sports have there injuries. Downhill Skiers have worse medical records than football players. Gymnastics careers are over before 20 because the body cant compete anymore and with the falls come concussions. Boxers who have been hit to many times. It is ridiculous that it seems to center only around Football.
Football players have the highest concussion rate of all professional sports, with NHL players next.
It probably..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/13/2019 7:44 pm : link
would be prudent to go to no tackling in games either.

If you aren't getting hit in practice, are you going to be prepared for it in games?

How will proper tackling technique be taught?

This almost seems like it will end up having the opposite effect as a result.
RE: It probably..  
Eman11 : 2/13/2019 7:55 pm : link
In comment 14296071 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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would be prudent to go to no tackling in games either.

If you aren't getting hit in practice, are you going to be prepared for it in games?

How will proper tackling technique be taught?

This almost seems like it will end up having the opposite effect as a result.


They can still hit in practice, just can't tackle to the ground for more than the 15 minutes a week.

I think they can work on proper tackling technique in those "thudding" periods, and then employ them in the 15 minutes of allowed tackling to the ground practice.
You probably are right..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/13/2019 7:58 pm : link
I misunderstood the part about thudding.

But it might be because it is the first I had heard of it!!
It'll be interesting to see the effects of this  
Eman11 : 2/13/2019 8:22 pm : link
On the quality of play.

N.J. has had some of the top football teams in the country, teams who play some National games. It's going to be interesting to see how they fare playing in those games going forward and if this helps or hurts their play.
Tackling isn’t the problem  
djm : 2/13/2019 8:26 pm : link
Bad form tackling is.
I see  
Dirt1 : 2/13/2019 10:11 pm : link
That the Giants are abiding to it as well!
Football is the new...  
bw in dc : 2/13/2019 10:13 pm : link
smoking.
Teach how to tackle  
uconngiant : 2/13/2019 11:41 pm : link
Properly and this wouldn't be a problem. Everyone tries to make the big hit instead of just wrapping up a player
HS Football Coaching  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 2/14/2019 7:32 am : link
Toward the end of my career as a HS football coach (in FL), we placed tremendous emphasis and considerable time on tackling technique, i.e. using the shoulder, seeing what you hit, etc. We could practice that every day during thud drills and even slow-motion technique drills.
So, if this plays out, espcially wrt FMIC's post  
Bill L : 2/14/2019 9:40 am : link
which is logical...if you don't practice something, you can't become proficient in it, then the logical outcome would be fewer (defense) players being recruited or becoming NFL players. So, class action restraint of trade suit?
RE: So, if this plays out, espcially wrt FMIC's post  
Eman11 : 2/14/2019 11:07 am : link
In comment 14296421 Bill L said:
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which is logical...if you don't practice something, you can't become proficient in it, then the logical outcome would be fewer (defense) players being recruited or becoming NFL players. So, class action restraint of trade suit?


Conversely if they're spending most of the time practicing proper technique and then implementing it in the to the ground time periods, they could become safer and even more proficient at it.

Logically that would result in fewer injuries, enabling more players to pursue a career in football, being recruited to college and maybe even making it to the NFL.
RE: Teach how to tackle  
Eli Wilson : 2/14/2019 11:51 am : link
In comment 14296272 uconngiant said:
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Properly and this wouldn't be a problem. Everyone tries to make the big hit instead of just wrapping up a player


Not to mention they try to tackle too high...up around the shoulders.
WTF does 15 minutes mean?  
ZogZerg : 2/14/2019 12:20 pm : link
per kid?

Sounds like nonsense that will confuse the hell of the coaches. Just Ban it already.
Given the current state of dialogue in America today,  
Metnut : 2/14/2019 12:59 pm : link
anything that reduces the likelihood of future brain damage is something that I support.
Mike Webster was a center  
Blue Racer : 2/14/2019 3:57 pm : link
His famous case of CTE, which ultimately killed him, was obviously not the result of tackling, but of tens of thousands of head whips and head blows while blocking.

While tackling will always be a factor, there are countless other "mini-concussions" that occur to players who are not involved in tackling.

Case in point: can anyone think of a quarterback who is suffering from CTE?

The key is to minimize sudden acceleration events to the head when tackling AND blocking.

Attenuating head acceleration is the reason why auto racers like me are required to wear a head and neck (HANS) restraint. (I'm not saying that's the answer for football.)

That's a tough one. Football has a huge challenge with this.
I'd like to add to my previous post...  
Blue Racer : 2/14/2019 4:00 pm : link
There are QBs who had some serious concussions, like Steve Young. But those were major, singular serious injuries. And most times they are forced to quit after three concussions.

As far as I can tell, Young still has all of his cognitive faculties as he approaches age 60.
RE: Given the current state of dialogue in America today,  
Eman11 : 2/14/2019 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14296690 Metnut said:
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anything that reduces the likelihood of future brain damage is something that I support.


That's my thinking as well. Plus the younger and earlier in their taking up the sport the better as far as learning proper technique. If this time limit accomplishes both of these things then I'm all for it.
anything men like to do  
Paulie Walnuts : 2/15/2019 10:27 am : link
is under attack
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