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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/13/2019 7:06 pm
Just finished my 5 mile run. Picked up 2 4 packs of Freak of Nature IPAs.

I'm ready for another Knickerbockers lose. TANK BABY! TANK! Let's get 18 in a row tonight!

76ers coming off a tough loss last night to Celts.
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What is the reason for the all star break being so late  
robbieballs2003 : 2/13/2019 7:31 pm : link
in the season?
RE: What is the reason for the all star break being so late  
bceagle05 : 2/13/2019 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14296063 robbieballs2003 said:
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in the season?
Just a guess, but the long postseason tournament may be factored in.
NBA postseason  
TommyWiseau : 2/13/2019 7:44 pm : link
always seems like it is going on for 6 months
Not that it'll change much  
robbieballs2003 : 2/13/2019 7:47 pm : link
but I wonder if it has anything to do with Pop resting his starters all the time during the regular season.
Boban never fails to make me laugh.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/13/2019 8:00 pm : link
What a goofball.
Jordan isn't the rim protector he used to be  
shyster : 2/13/2019 8:00 pm : link
Not on the bandwagon to bring him back next year.
Man it's been a LONG time since we could say Knick Defense  
ChaChing : 2/13/2019 8:01 pm : link
and mean something

In the first 4:30 we see Hezonja run away from his man, team D leaves Reddick open for 3 while chasing Simmons outside, and also a sweet moment with 4 defenders back but STILL leave someone open on the opposite side for the easy layup like a fast break

I don't know when defense 101 stopped teaching "stop the ball first" regardless of whether it's your man or not. But I guess only a handful of teams manage solid D these days
Dotson has hit three  
adamg : 2/13/2019 8:02 pm : link
of those pull up jumpers
RE: Jordan isn't the rim protector he used to be  
ChaChing : 2/13/2019 8:08 pm : link
In comment 14296090 shyster said:
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Not on the bandwagon to bring him back next year.

Maybe he's regressing but to my eye he's put minimal effort on the floor since becoming a Knick. Looks like Kanter watching guys shoot over him, hand down & ignoring help vs anticipating ball movement & attacking the ball and shooter

W/ LAC even this year he was his usual high motor self the games I saw
RE: Dotson has hit three  
ChaChing : 2/13/2019 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14296093 adamg said:
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of those pull up jumpers

Dot on fire. 11 in the 1st
Pull Docson  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/13/2019 8:17 pm : link
WTF is he doing? He's killing the tank.
RE: Pull Docson  
adamg : 2/13/2019 8:18 pm : link
In comment 14296109 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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WTF is he doing? He's killing the tank.


He heard you and missed that open tre...
Dotson  
Jon in NYC : 2/13/2019 8:24 pm : link
is a player. He's a great fit as a 2 in a Kyrie-Durant lineup.
Robinskn needs to wake up when he is down low  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 8:25 pm : link
he never catches it unless it is a lob..
RE: Dotson  
adamg : 2/13/2019 8:26 pm : link
In comment 14296113 Jon in NYC said:
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is a player. He's a great fit as a 2 in a Kyrie-Durant lineup.


.512 eFG% over his two years... FT shooting could be better.
Bill Simmons was hinting on his podcast earlier  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/13/2019 8:29 pm : link
that there's a good chance dep's favorite player-Jimmy Buckets-leaves Philly this summer.
4 assists by Jordan  
adamg : 2/13/2019 8:30 pm : link
.
Knox needs to sit  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 8:30 pm : link
he plays so lazy when his shot is off, he needs to wake up
and as i say that  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 8:31 pm : link
wow
Knox posterizes  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/13/2019 8:31 pm : link
Simmons.
smith gets to the rim at will  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 8:33 pm : link
..
RE: Knox needs to sit  
ChaChing : 2/13/2019 8:33 pm : link
In comment 14296127 nygiants16 said:
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he plays so lazy when his shot is off, he needs to wake up

He heard you - what a dunk Knox

(tho I agree w/ you. And he goes to the bench w/ 3 fouls)
Bad call  
adamg : 2/13/2019 8:35 pm : link
Vonleh didn't foul there
"Precursor to Valentine's Day"  
adamg : 2/13/2019 8:37 pm : link
Clyde is the best...
I realize this team is in tank more.  
Beezer : 2/13/2019 8:37 pm : link
But if you’re paying attention, you can see some piecesoossibly falling into place. I’m an admitted optimist. But I really like Jordan and his presence.
refs blowing the sixers now  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 8:38 pm : link
sixers get every single call now
RE: refs blowing the sixers now  
adamg : 2/13/2019 8:39 pm : link
In comment 14296143 nygiants16 said:
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sixers get every single call now


FTs 24 for PHI vs. 8 for the NYK...
this fucking bullshit  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 8:40 pm : link
embiid flops geta a call, trier gets knocked to the floor refs swallow their whistles
Seems so odd rooting for your team to lose  
Rick in Dallas : 2/13/2019 8:45 pm : link
I was such a huge Knick fan in the 60’s and 70’s but have lost interest in pro basketball over the 20 years.
RE: I realize this team is in tank more.  
Jon in NYC : 2/13/2019 8:46 pm : link
In comment 14296140 Beezer said:
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But if you’re paying attention, you can see some piecesoossibly falling into place. I’m an admitted optimist. But I really like Jordan and his presence.


Would also be a great fit, but unless he's willing to take a huge paycut, he isn't going to stick around.
RE: RE: I realize this team is in tank more.  
adamg : 2/13/2019 8:48 pm : link
In comment 14296152 Jon in NYC said:
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But if you’re paying attention, you can see some piecesoossibly falling into place. I’m an admitted optimist. But I really like Jordan and his presence.



Would also be a great fit, but unless he's willing to take a huge paycut, he isn't going to stick around.


Even if he could play on the MLE with Durant, Kyrie, and Zion?
RE: RE: RE: I realize this team is in tank more.  
Jon in NYC : 2/13/2019 8:50 pm : link
In comment 14296154 adamg said:
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But if you’re paying attention, you can see some piecesoossibly falling into place. I’m an admitted optimist. But I really like Jordan and his presence.



Would also be a great fit, but unless he's willing to take a huge paycut, he isn't going to stick around.



Even if he could play on the MLE with Durant, Kyrie, and Zion?


Hey may chose to do that. But that's a 13 mil paycut for him.

On the flipside, who is about to give him a big deal at 30?
RE: RE: RE: RE: I realize this team is in tank more.  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14296159 Jon in NYC said:
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But if you’re paying attention, you can see some piecesoossibly falling into place. I’m an admitted optimist. But I really like Jordan and his presence.



Would also be a great fit, but unless he's willing to take a huge paycut, he isn't going to stick around.



Even if he could play on the MLE with Durant, Kyrie, and Zion?



Hey may chose to do that. But that's a 13 mil paycut for him.

On the flipside, who is about to give him a big deal at 30?


you would think it has been discussed with him, otherwise why keep him and play him? seems like if he was not a part of the future it would be better to let him go
Jordan's stat line looks good at a glance  
shyster : 2/13/2019 8:55 pm : link
but the Sixers have 71 points and he has had zero defensive presence. And tied for worst plus/minus.

Beginning in 2013, Jordan ranked second, third, second, sixth in number of blocks per year. Since then, nowhere.

He's not the guy people remember.
RE: Jordan's stat line looks good at a glance  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 8:59 pm : link
In comment 14296164 shyster said:
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but the Sixers have 71 points and he has had zero defensive presence. And tied for worst plus/minus.

Beginning in 2013, Jordan ranked second, third, second, sixth in number of blocks per year. Since then, nowhere.

He's not the guy people remember.


he cant guard everyone, what do you want him to do?

he has to guard his man and help on everything
nygiants16  
robbieballs2003 : 2/13/2019 8:59 pm : link
I get what you are saying but who else is going to play center? Robinson has shown he cannot handle heavy minutes. So, I think he is here because we need someone to play center and to help mentor Robinson. I think those are the main reasons. Anything after that is nice and may have been discussed but I doubt it at this point in time. That is something that probably happens after he shows his worth toward the end of the year. If he is part of the team next year then great. If not, it didn't hurt anybody on this team by taking minutes away.
RE: nygiants16  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14296167 robbieballs2003 said:
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I get what you are saying but who else is going to play center? Robinson has shown he cannot handle heavy minutes. So, I think he is here because we need someone to play center and to help mentor Robinson. I think those are the main reasons. Anything after that is nice and may have been discussed but I doubt it at this point in time. That is something that probably happens after he shows his worth toward the end of the year. If he is part of the team next year then great. If not, it didn't hurt anybody on this team by taking minutes away.


kornet and robinson cant handle the minutes?

and you dont think jordan wants to play for a winning team?
Simmons & Smith Jr.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/13/2019 9:03 pm : link
jawing @ each other.
why is it  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 9:07 pm : link
everytime sixers drive the refs blow the whistle and knicks drive refs magically swallow their whistle
RE: RE: nygiants16  
robbieballs2003 : 2/13/2019 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14296170 nygiants16 said:
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I get what you are saying but who else is going to play center? Robinson has shown he cannot handle heavy minutes. So, I think he is here because we need someone to play center and to help mentor Robinson. I think those are the main reasons. Anything after that is nice and may have been discussed but I doubt it at this point in time. That is something that probably happens after he shows his worth toward the end of the year. If he is part of the team next year then great. If not, it didn't hurt anybody on this team by taking minutes away.



kornet and robinson cant handle the minutes?

and you dont think jordan wants to play for a winning team?


Robinson has proven he cannot. He gets gassed quickly. He has also prove to be very foul prone. Him and Kornet really aren't enough alone.

What does Jordan wanting to play for another team have to do with anything? He is under contract with the Knicks. The Knicks only obligation is to do what is in the best interest of the Knicks. Jordan seems lke a great dude and it is obvious why he is still here.
RE: RE: Jordan's stat line looks good at a glance  
shyster : 2/13/2019 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14296166 nygiants16 said:
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he cant guard everyone, what do you want him to do?

he has to guard his man and help on everything


If he were helping the way he did in his prime, he'd be contesting/blocking a lot more shots.

I don't mean to be gratuitous or single him out unnecessarily but the talk about bringing him back is based on the name on the uniform.
RE: RE: RE: Jordan's stat line looks good at a glance  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14296176 shyster said:
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he cant guard everyone, what do you want him to do?

he has to guard his man and help on everything



If he were helping the way he did in his prime, he'd be contesting/blocking a lot more shots.

I don't mean to be gratuitous or single him out unnecessarily but the talk about bringing him back is based on the name on the uniform.


no it is not, people said the same thing about tyson chandler, oh whybis he not helping more oh why is he not doing this...

If the guards could keep their men out of the paint hr wouldnt look as bad, he can not go and contest eveything...

the job of the center is not just to block shots..

Mitchell Robinson blocks everything but he is a horrible defender, id much rather deandre back there than robinson when the team is good
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nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14296175 robbieballs2003 said:
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I get what you are saying but who else is going to play center? Robinson has shown he cannot handle heavy minutes. So, I think he is here because we need someone to play center and to help mentor Robinson. I think those are the main reasons. Anything after that is nice and may have been discussed but I doubt it at this point in time. That is something that probably happens after he shows his worth toward the end of the year. If he is part of the team next year then great. If not, it didn't hurt anybody on this team by taking minutes away.



kornet and robinson cant handle the minutes?

and you dont think jordan wants to play for a winning team?



Robinson has proven he cannot. He gets gassed quickly. He has also prove to be very foul prone. Him and Kornet really aren't enough alone.

What does Jordan wanting to play for another team have to do with anything? He is under contract with the Knicks. The Knicks only obligation is to do what is in the best interest of the Knicks. Jordan seems lke a great dude and it is obvious why he is still here.


so was matthews and kanter..

If jordan said i would like a buyout you dont thin the knicks would oblige?
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robbieballs2003 : 2/13/2019 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14296178 nygiants16 said:
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I get what you are saying but who else is going to play center? Robinson has shown he cannot handle heavy minutes. So, I think he is here because we need someone to play center and to help mentor Robinson. I think those are the main reasons. Anything after that is nice and may have been discussed but I doubt it at this point in time. That is something that probably happens after he shows his worth toward the end of the year. If he is part of the team next year then great. If not, it didn't hurt anybody on this team by taking minutes away.



kornet and robinson cant handle the minutes?

and you dont think jordan wants to play for a winning team?



Robinson has proven he cannot. He gets gassed quickly. He has also prove to be very foul prone. Him and Kornet really aren't enough alone.

What does Jordan wanting to play for another team have to do with anything? He is under contract with the Knicks. The Knicks only obligation is to do what is in the best interest of the Knicks. Jordan seems lke a great dude and it is obvious why he is still here.



so was matthews and kanter..

If jordan said i would like a buyout you dont thin the knicks would oblige?


Maybe, maybe not. Jordan doesn't seem like that type of player. We also have many more options at the 2/3 positions that Matthews was expendable. Kanter was a different animal. Again, the Knicks have been very vocal why Jordan is here.
we all know why jordan is here  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 9:19 pm : link
knicks jjst cant say it
Knicks within 9 @ the end of 3rd.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/13/2019 9:30 pm : link
Fitz needs to find the drunkest five near him & have them throw on jerseys to play the 4th.
RE: Knicks within 9 @ the end of 3rd.  
ChaChing : 2/13/2019 9:34 pm : link
In comment 14296186 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Fitz needs to find the drunkest five near him & have them throw on jerseys to play the 4th.

17 straight on the down side. They can manage by themselves lol

I just like the consistent fight and generally decent effort. All season
RE: Bill Simmons was hinting on his podcast earlier  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/13/2019 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14296124 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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that there's a good chance dep's favorite player-Jimmy Buckets-leaves Philly this summer.


I would be shocked if he didn't. Harris is a better, low maintenance fit with the somewhat selfish Embiid. Jimmy talks a good game, but he wants the ball even more than he cares about a winning situation. I saw someone talking about him and the Lakers last week.
the refs are ridiculous  
nygiants16 : 2/13/2019 9:39 pm : link
..
Yeah, I don't see  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/13/2019 9:40 pm : link
Jimmy being a second, third, or fourth option anywhere. He wants to be The Man.

I could see him as a Net.
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