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Kaepernick asked for $20 million to play in AAF

Jay on the Island : 2/15/2019 9:57 am
Alliance of American Football co-founder Bill Polian said Thursday that the startup league had talked to Colin Kaepernick. Now, comes word from Barry Wilner of the Associated Press that the former 49ers quarterback asked for $20 million to consider playing.

This helps support the argument that one of the main reasons he hasn't been signed is due to his contract demands.
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I've believed this all along.  
Britt in VA : 2/15/2019 10:00 am : link
Kaepernick is just as responsible, IMO, for his inability to sign with a team.

The rumors were that he was asking for starters money from the get go.

The truth is, once Kaepernick actually gets signed and shows to be the average (at best) player that he is, the fifteen minutes of fame are over.

Kaepernick is way more brand than player.
I think he prefers the notority of not playing, and holding the  
PatersonPlank : 2/15/2019 10:02 am : link
"I'm an activist and got screwed" card. Going back to playing ends that, and also means he has to go back to work.
RE: I've believed this all along.  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2019 10:05 am : link
In comment 14297239 Britt in VA said:
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Kaepernick is just as responsible, IMO, for his inability to sign with a team.

The rumors were that he was asking for starters money from the get go.

The truth is, once Kaepernick actually gets signed and shows to be the average (at best) player that he is, the fifteen minutes of fame are over.

Kaepernick is way more brand than player.

I've always thought there was more to the story. I believed that Kaepernicks absence from the NFL had more to do with him than being blackballed. He had a few workouts in the past with teams and was never signed which lead me to believe it was his contract demands. Now I genuinely believe that he doesn't want to play football but continues to act as if he is trying to get back in the league. He is making far more money and getting far more respect now than he would get playing as a backup. As you mentioned the minute he steps foot on a football field and plays like the guy who was benched for Blaine Gabbert he will prove that his ability was the reason for his status not his beliefs. Of course others will blame his poor performance on being out of football for too long.
RE: I think he prefers the notority of not playing, and holding the  
Rocky369 : 2/15/2019 10:08 am : link
In comment 14297242 PatersonPlank said:
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"I'm an activist and got screwed" card. Going back to playing ends that, and also means he has to go back to work.

this^
RE: I've believed this all along.  
bw in dc : 2/15/2019 10:11 am : link
In comment 14297239 Britt in VA said:
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Kaepernick is just as responsible, IMO, for his inability to sign with a team.

The rumors were that he was asking for starters money from the get go.

The truth is, once Kaepernick actually gets signed and shows to be the average (at best) player that he is, the fifteen minutes of fame are over.

Kaepernick is way more brand than player.


I agree with most of this, especially CK being more brand than player.

I've thought at times that CK didn't even want to play football anymore. He was relishing this new fame as this martyr. And from what I've read, he's not short on cash flow either. Apparently Nike paid him very handsomely for that ad campaign last fall.
Honestly, he probably would deserve more to play in the AAF  
Heisenberg : 2/15/2019 10:13 am : link
than the NFL. No one gives a shit about the AAF but the minute he put on a uniform, they would.
Nope  
mdthedream : 2/15/2019 10:15 am : link
maybe one game.
RE: Honestly, he probably would deserve more to play in the AAF  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2019 10:17 am : link
In comment 14297261 Heisenberg said:
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than the NFL. No one gives a shit about the AAF but the minute he put on a uniform, they would.

Yeah for about a half until they turn the channel after saying "this guy sucks"
his brand is worth more than 250  
Joey from GlenCove : 2/15/2019 10:20 am : link
so there is no point in playing
hmmm  
giantfan2000 : 2/15/2019 10:21 am : link
Colin Kaepernick could have started for a least 7 NFL teams last year
because their current starting QB sucks or there was injury to their starting QB

Panthers
Jaguars
Bucs
Dolphins
Broncos
Redskins
49ers

the fact he was never even brought in for a workout by one team shows that he was blacklisted .. to argue otherwise is just really delusional.
he could have signed with the Broncos  
Greg from LI : 2/15/2019 10:22 am : link
He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.
RE: RE: Honestly, he probably would deserve more to play in the AAF  
Heisenberg : 2/15/2019 10:22 am : link
In comment 14297266 Jay on the Island said:
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than the NFL. No one gives a shit about the AAF but the minute he put on a uniform, they would.


Yeah for about a half until they turn the channel after saying "this guy sucks"


aside from the haters who want to watch him suck! but yeah.
What??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/15/2019 10:33 am : link
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Colin Kaepernick could have started for a least 7 NFL teams last year
because their current starting QB sucks or there was injury to their starting QB

Panthers
Jaguars
Bucs
Dolphins
Broncos
Redskins
49ers

the fact he was never even brought in for a workout by one team shows that he was blacklisted .. to argue otherwise is just really delusional.


Both the Broncos and the Redskins contacted his agent and Kaep turned them down. Straight from Elway's mouth:

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John Elway, the team's general manager, told reporters Thursday that he tried to sign Kaepernick and it didn't work out.
"Colin had his chance to be here," Elway said. "We offered him a contract. He didn't take it."
RE: Honestly, he probably would deserve more to play in the AAF  
Chris in Philly : 2/15/2019 10:36 am : link
In comment 14297261 Heisenberg said:
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than the NFL. No one gives a shit about the AAF but the minute he put on a uniform, they would.


This is the right take. Why shouldn’t he ask for huge money to play in this second rate nonsense?
The Seahawks also worked him out during the 2017 season  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2019 10:40 am : link
and he didn't sign with them and the belief was that it was mainly due to his contract requests. Does anyone honestly think that he wants to play football when he is receiving more attention and money by playing the victim? If he really wanted to play as badly as he claimed he would have joined the CFL.
he's a clown with awful judgment  
GiantNatty : 2/15/2019 10:42 am : link
and he wonders why no team wants him to be its leader. what a joke.
RE: he could have signed with the Broncos  
HomerJones45 : 2/15/2019 10:43 am : link
In comment 14297276 Greg from LI said:
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He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.
+1
RE: he could have signed with the Broncos  
Jints in Carolina : 2/15/2019 10:43 am : link
In comment 14297276 Greg from LI said:
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He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.


this
The Question is  
BIG FRED 1973 : 2/15/2019 10:50 am : link
will all these celebrities and Athletes keep praising this guy ???
RE: RE: Honestly, he probably would deserve more to play in the AAF  
Brown Recluse : 2/15/2019 10:51 am : link
In comment 14297296 Chris in Philly said:
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than the NFL. No one gives a shit about the AAF but the minute he put on a uniform, they would.



This is the right take. Why shouldn’t he ask for huge money to play in this second rate nonsense?


Yeah right. He's 31 years old and hasn't played in 3 years. He doesn't deserve anything more than anyone else and even if you wanted to argue that he did, $20 million is absurd.
RE: he could have signed with the Broncos  
Ssanders9816 : 2/15/2019 10:52 am : link
In comment 14297276 Greg from LI said:
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He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.


It amazes me this gets overlooked. Of course because it doesn’t align with his agenda and how everyone wants to paint him as a victim.

Can we finally more on from this guy? He wasn’t very good anyway.
What bothers me about Kaepernick  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2019 11:01 am : link
besides his ignorant statements on Fidel Castro, is that he didn't become an activist until he was benched. Why didn't he have anything to say when he was the hot young QB in the NFL? He was on the biggest stage in the superbowl where he could have used that platform to share his beliefs on social injustice but he has nothing to say until he is benched and destined for 2-3 years of being a journeyman backup making close to the league minimum.
RE: RE: he could have signed with the Broncos  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/15/2019 11:03 am : link
In comment 14297311 Ssanders9816 said:
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He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.



It amazes me this gets overlooked. Of course because it doesn’t align with his agenda and how everyone wants to paint him as a victim.

Can we finally more on from this guy? He wasn’t very good anyway.


I am by no means a Kaepernick fan, but IIRC, the Broncos' offer came prior to 2016 and all the hooplah with his protests. Who cares what anyone offered him when he wasn't a liability?
RE: RE: I've believed this all along.  
giants#1 : 2/15/2019 11:04 am : link
In comment 14297260 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14297239 Britt in VA said:


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Kaepernick is just as responsible, IMO, for his inability to sign with a team.

The rumors were that he was asking for starters money from the get go.

The truth is, once Kaepernick actually gets signed and shows to be the average (at best) player that he is, the fifteen minutes of fame are over.

Kaepernick is way more brand than player.



I agree with most of this, especially CK being more brand than player.

I've thought at times that CK didn't even want to play football anymore. He was relishing this new fame as this martyr. And from what I've read, he's not short on cash flow either. Apparently Nike paid him very handsomely for that ad campaign last fall.


Probably a lot more than they would've if he was playing somewhere and proving (again) to be a mediocre QB.

lmao  
Paulie Walnuts : 2/15/2019 11:09 am : link
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RE: he could have signed with the Broncos  
bluepepper : 2/15/2019 11:09 am : link
In comment 14297276 Greg from LI said:
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He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.

The Broncos thing was before any of the kneeling stuff. He chose to stay with the Niners. Has nothing to do with later being blacklisted which of course he was and not only do most people on this thread know that but they actually AGREE with it and think it's good thing that he was blacklisted.

As far as turning down the AAF, it's like a black-listed actor in the 1950's turning down dinner theater. Of course he doesn't want to do that.
RE: RE: RE: he could have signed with the Broncos  
BIG FRED 1973 : 2/15/2019 11:11 am : link
In comment 14297319 Mike in Long Beach said:
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In comment 14297276 Greg from LI said:


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He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.



It amazes me this gets overlooked. Of course because it doesn’t align with his agenda and how everyone wants to paint him as a victim.

Can we finally more on from this guy? He wasn’t very good anyway.



I am by no means a Kaepernick fan, but IIRC, the Broncos' offer came prior to 2016 and all the hooplah with his protests. Who cares what anyone offered him when he wasn't a liability?
Mike didnt he play in 2016 ? I could have sworn the kneeling nonsense started in the 2016 pre season
Yup, exactly.  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/15/2019 11:15 am : link
The Broncos offered him a contract in a sign-and-trade with the 49ers. Kaep turned down the offer as it required a pay cut. I don't blame him one bit for that. I'm just challenging the narrative that Kaepernick "had his chance." It's a completely inaccurate way to think about as he came with no baggage at that time.
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RE: hmmm  
giants#1 : 2/15/2019 11:16 am : link
In comment 14297275 giantfan2000 said:
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Colin Kaepernick could have started for a least 7 NFL teams last year
because their current starting QB sucks or there was injury to their starting QB

Panthers
Jaguars
Bucs
Dolphins
Broncos
Redskins
49ers

the fact he was never even brought in for a workout by one team shows that he was blacklisted .. to argue otherwise is just really delusional.


Newton played in 14 games last year. There was zero value bringing in CK at that point.

Winston has far more (arm) talent that CK ever did and has proven a hell of a lot more than CK. And I'm far from a Winston fan.

Keenum's 2017 is better than any season CK's ever had.

Redskins - depends what kind of football shape CK was in at that point and how much he wanted.

49ers - makes no sense being the last team he played for and the fact he lost his job to Blaine Gabbert.

Dolphins - Tannehill is a better QB than CK, though I'd take CK at $5M per over Tannehill for $18-20M or whatever he was making. No idea if CK was willing to do that and with a coach on the hot seat, no point in bringing in CK.

I'll give you the Jags. Bortles is trash and never should've been re-signed.

So of your 7, really only 1-3 (Jags + Skins + Fins) made sense. Problem for CK is that he's a backup level QB and not exactly young anymore. So while he might be better than the QBs for some teams (e.g. Dolphins), they are far better off trying to bring in a young QB with the potential to be a long term starter, than signing CK. And at the other end of the spectrum, most teams in the playoff hunt (Jags the primary exception) have established starters making serious money and aren't going to want to pay a backup significant money too.

RE: hmmm  
DonQuixote : 2/15/2019 11:18 am : link
In comment 14297275 giantfan2000 said:
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Colin Kaepernick could have started for a least 7 NFL teams last year
because their current starting QB sucks or there was injury to their starting QB

Panthers
Jaguars
Bucs
Dolphins
Broncos
Redskins
49ers

the fact he was never even brought in for a workout by one team shows that he was blacklisted .. to argue otherwise is just really delusional.


Washingron was particularly desperate, but I might have paid good money to see Kapernick sign with the Redskins
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giants#1 : 2/15/2019 11:19 am : link
In comment 14297319 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I am by no means a Kaepernick fan, but IIRC, the Broncos' offer came prior to 2016 and all the hooplah with his protests. Who cares what anyone offered him when he wasn't a liability?


He was still on the 49ers as of 2016.
RE: he could have signed with the Broncos  
DonQuixote : 2/15/2019 11:19 am : link
In comment 14297276 Greg from LI said:
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He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.


I did not know that. Thanks for the post.
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DonQuixote : 2/15/2019 11:24 am : link
In comment 14297331 bluepepper said:
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He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.


The Broncos thing was before any of the kneeling stuff. He chose to stay with the Niners. Has nothing to do with later being blacklisted which of course he was and not only do most people on this thread know that but they actually AGREE with it and think it's good thing that he was blacklisted.

As far as turning down the AAF, it's like a black-listed actor in the 1950's turning down dinner theater. Of course he doesn't want to do that.


I didn’t know that. I can’t say whether Kapernick would be competitive if the field, but I support his stance on kneeling during the anthem. It’s an important issue that is being hijacked by jingoism.
he played for Niners in 2016  
bluepepper : 2/15/2019 11:30 am : link
and they moved on. Understandable for the Niners to dump him because once a guy's been your franchise QB and you bench him it makes sense to let him go. Any other team in the league looking for a QB in the next year or so be it a back up or whatever should have had some interest in him. They didn't.

There's no way a QB with his talent and track record doesn't get a long look and offers from other teams unless something else is going on. It really isn't all that hard to understand. He pissed off a lot of people and NFL owners wanted no part of him or the blow-back from signing him. To keep pretending that all these teams just made football-only decisions about him is ludicrous.
OK, so he's a mediocre QB and wants starter money  
Greg from LI : 2/15/2019 11:35 am : link
AND on top of it will almost certainly bring controversy and headaches to the organization that signs him. Gee, I can't imagine why teams aren't interested.

Jeff George was out of football just two years after a very good season in Minnesota because teams just didn't want to deal with him, and he was a much more talented QB than Kaepernick ever was. How is this any different?
Whoever said that it was football only?  
Greg from LI : 2/15/2019 11:37 am : link
It was clearly a combination of factors, football reason and off the field reasons.
RE: he played for Niners in 2016  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2019 11:38 am : link
In comment 14297358 bluepepper said:
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and they moved on. Understandable for the Niners to dump him because once a guy's been your franchise QB and you bench him it makes sense to let him go. Any other team in the league looking for a QB in the next year or so be it a back up or whatever should have had some interest in him. They didn't.

There's no way a QB with his talent and track record doesn't get a long look and offers from other teams unless something else is going on. It really isn't all that hard to understand. He pissed off a lot of people and NFL owners wanted no part of him or the blow-back from signing him. To keep pretending that all these teams just made football-only decisions about him is ludicrous.

Is Tebow being blackballed as well? Why didn't he get another chance? It's simple as both Tebow and Kaepernick aren't good enough to be starting QB's in the NFL and they create too much of a distraction, and in Kaep' case wants too much money, which isn't worth it for a backup QB that may never see the field.
RE: OK, so he's a mediocre QB and wants starter money  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2019 11:39 am : link
In comment 14297365 Greg from LI said:
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AND on top of it will almost certainly bring controversy and headaches to the organization that signs him. Gee, I can't imagine why teams aren't interested.

Jeff George was out of football just two years after a very good season in Minnesota because teams just didn't want to deal with him, and he was a much more talented QB than Kaepernick ever was. How is this any different?

Well said Greg.
Kaepernick  
Archer : 2/15/2019 11:42 am : link
Collusion suggests that all of teams in the NFL got together and decided that none of them would offer a contract to Kaepernick

This is ridiculous. These owners cannot agree on anything unanimously

The owners individually evaluated Kaepernick and came to their own conclusion

Kaepernick over played his hand
He has some talent but his baggage along with his requested compensation made him undesirable

If Kaepernick was a top 10 QB one owner would have signed him regardless of his off the field issues
Ability trumps all

RE: OK, so he's a mediocre QB and wants starter money  
weeg in the bronx : 2/15/2019 11:44 am : link
In comment 14297365 Greg from LI said:
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AND on top of it will almost certainly bring controversy and headaches to the organization that signs him. Gee, I can't imagine why teams aren't interested.

Jeff George was out of football just two years after a very good season in Minnesota because teams just didn't want to deal with him, and he was a much more talented QB than Kaepernick ever was. How is this any different?



Stop being rational!
RE: Kaepernick  
Greg from LI : 2/15/2019 11:46 am : link
In comment 14297385 Archer said:
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If Kaepernick was a top 10 QB one owner would have signed him regardless of his off the field issues
Ability trumps all


Yes. Michael Vick got another chance despite baggage much worse than Kaepernick's because he was a much better QB.
I love this whole notion of Kaepernick  
Knineteen : 2/15/2019 11:50 am : link
being "black-balled" by the league.

Why would any team want the bad press and attention associated with a backup QB? It's a position that might not see playing time the entire season. He lost his starting job with the 49ers and also opted out of his contract.

Dude hasn't been in the league for 3 years and we still perseverate on the anthem. His presence on any team is only going to continue said perseveration.
RE: RE: Kaepernick  
bluepepper : 2/15/2019 11:52 am : link
In comment 14297405 Greg from LI said:
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If Kaepernick was a top 10 QB one owner would have signed him regardless of his off the field issues
Ability trumps all




Yes. Michael Vick got another chance despite baggage much worse than Kaepernick's because he was a much better QB.

No, Vick got another chance because his offense didn't trigger NFL owners and fans as much as Kaepernick's.
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Jay on the Island : 2/15/2019 11:58 am : link
In comment 14297427 bluepepper said:
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If Kaepernick was a top 10 QB one owner would have signed him regardless of his off the field issues
Ability trumps all




Yes. Michael Vick got another chance despite baggage much worse than Kaepernick's because he was a much better QB.


No, Vick got another chance because his offense didn't trigger NFL owners and fans as much as Kaepernick's.

I guess you missed all the protests lead by PETA and the fans. There was a lot of outrage when Vick was signed.
Here is an article  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2019 12:00 pm : link
of a protest by Steelers fans after they signed Vick years after he was back in the league.
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Kaepernick  
Archer : 2/15/2019 12:01 pm : link
I think that Kaepernick really does not want to play football any longer
My recollection was tha Kaepernick chose to leave San Fransico
He opted out of his contract


It is within Kaepernick’s intersest to propergate the concept that there was collusion
If he can prove collusion and fraud against the owners he can win an enormous amount of money in thx courts

That is Kaepernick’s end game
He cannot accept less than a certain amount of compensation as it would hurt his case
RE: RE: RE: RE: he could have signed with the Broncos  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/15/2019 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14297341 giants#1 said:
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I am by no means a Kaepernick fan, but IIRC, the Broncos' offer came prior to 2016 and all the hooplah with his protests. Who cares what anyone offered him when he wasn't a liability?



He was still on the 49ers as of 2016.


Please read my other post. You got the situation wrong, sir.
He's not that good  
AcesUp : 2/15/2019 12:16 pm : link
That's mainly what it boils down to. Sure, he's better than other guys playing in the league, other guys starting. However it's not a big enough difference to deal with the distractions of signing him. If Ryan Tannehill started talking about building a wall, he'd be in the same situation at Kaepernick is right now. Owners don't want to alienate customers and coaches don't want their players answering questions about things other than football. It's not that difficult to figure out.
i was curious about the Elway/Bronco offer  
Dr. D : 2/15/2019 12:18 pm : link
this seems to be the timeline:

Kaep was playing poorly during the '15 season and was benched by the 49ers in Nov of '15.
Broncos were willing to trade for him in spring of '16 and let him compete for starting job, but wanted to restructure his contract (based on his current status).
Kaep didn't want his contract redone, i.e., paycut to go to Denver
Kaep started his protests early in '16 season (began sitting during anthem in preseason and then kneeling during regular season) as a non-starter for 49ers.

Bottom line, collusion isn't necessary for individual owners to decide on their own that he's not worth starter money, especially considering the distraction and financial damage (loss of revenue) he could bring to a franchise.
Seattle  
giantfan2000 : 2/15/2019 12:28 pm : link
Seattle never brought Kaepernick in for workout

they postpone it indefinitely

NFL teams have workouts every week during the season .. for many positions even those they have depth in .. .. the fact is Kaepernick has never gotten a workout from one NFL team since he was released from SF .. this is the very definition of collusion.
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