Alliance of American Football co-founder Bill Polian said Thursday that the startup league had talked to Colin Kaepernick. Now, comes word from Barry Wilner of the Associated Press that the former 49ers quarterback asked for $20 million to consider playing.
This helps support the argument that one of the main reasons he hasn't been signed is due to his contract demands.
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The rumors were that he was asking for starters money from the get go.
The truth is, once Kaepernick actually gets signed and shows to be the average (at best) player that he is, the fifteen minutes of fame are over.
Kaepernick is way more brand than player.
The rumors were that he was asking for starters money from the get go.
The truth is, once Kaepernick actually gets signed and shows to be the average (at best) player that he is, the fifteen minutes of fame are over.
Kaepernick is way more brand than player.
I've always thought there was more to the story. I believed that Kaepernicks absence from the NFL had more to do with him than being blackballed. He had a few workouts in the past with teams and was never signed which lead me to believe it was his contract demands. Now I genuinely believe that he doesn't want to play football but continues to act as if he is trying to get back in the league. He is making far more money and getting far more respect now than he would get playing as a backup. As you mentioned the minute he steps foot on a football field and plays like the guy who was benched for Blaine Gabbert he will prove that his ability was the reason for his status not his beliefs. Of course others will blame his poor performance on being out of football for too long.
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The rumors were that he was asking for starters money from the get go.
The truth is, once Kaepernick actually gets signed and shows to be the average (at best) player that he is, the fifteen minutes of fame are over.
Kaepernick is way more brand than player.
I agree with most of this, especially CK being more brand than player.
I've thought at times that CK didn't even want to play football anymore. He was relishing this new fame as this martyr. And from what I've read, he's not short on cash flow either. Apparently Nike paid him very handsomely for that ad campaign last fall.
Yeah for about a half until they turn the channel after saying "this guy sucks"
because their current starting QB sucks or there was injury to their starting QB
Panthers
Jaguars
Bucs
Dolphins
Broncos
Redskins
49ers
the fact he was never even brought in for a workout by one team shows that he was blacklisted .. to argue otherwise is just really delusional.
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than the NFL. No one gives a shit about the AAF but the minute he put on a uniform, they would.
Yeah for about a half until they turn the channel after saying "this guy sucks"
aside from the haters who want to watch him suck! but yeah.
because their current starting QB sucks or there was injury to their starting QB
Panthers
Jaguars
Bucs
Dolphins
Broncos
Redskins
49ers
the fact he was never even brought in for a workout by one team shows that he was blacklisted .. to argue otherwise is just really delusional.
Both the Broncos and the Redskins contacted his agent and Kaep turned them down. Straight from Elway's mouth:
"Colin had his chance to be here," Elway said. "We offered him a contract. He didn't take it."
This is the right take. Why shouldn’t he ask for huge money to play in this second rate nonsense?
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than the NFL. No one gives a shit about the AAF but the minute he put on a uniform, they would.
This is the right take. Why shouldn’t he ask for huge money to play in this second rate nonsense?
Yeah right. He's 31 years old and hasn't played in 3 years. He doesn't deserve anything more than anyone else and even if you wanted to argue that he did, $20 million is absurd.
It amazes me this gets overlooked. Of course because it doesn’t align with his agenda and how everyone wants to paint him as a victim.
Can we finally more on from this guy? He wasn’t very good anyway.
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He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.
It amazes me this gets overlooked. Of course because it doesn’t align with his agenda and how everyone wants to paint him as a victim.
Can we finally more on from this guy? He wasn’t very good anyway.
I am by no means a Kaepernick fan, but IIRC, the Broncos' offer came prior to 2016 and all the hooplah with his protests. Who cares what anyone offered him when he wasn't a liability?
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Kaepernick is just as responsible, IMO, for his inability to sign with a team.
The rumors were that he was asking for starters money from the get go.
The truth is, once Kaepernick actually gets signed and shows to be the average (at best) player that he is, the fifteen minutes of fame are over.
Kaepernick is way more brand than player.
I agree with most of this, especially CK being more brand than player.
I've thought at times that CK didn't even want to play football anymore. He was relishing this new fame as this martyr. And from what I've read, he's not short on cash flow either. Apparently Nike paid him very handsomely for that ad campaign last fall.
Probably a lot more than they would've if he was playing somewhere and proving (again) to be a mediocre QB.
The Broncos thing was before any of the kneeling stuff. He chose to stay with the Niners. Has nothing to do with later being blacklisted which of course he was and not only do most people on this thread know that but they actually AGREE with it and think it's good thing that he was blacklisted.
As far as turning down the AAF, it's like a black-listed actor in the 1950's turning down dinner theater. Of course he doesn't want to do that.
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He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.
It amazes me this gets overlooked. Of course because it doesn’t align with his agenda and how everyone wants to paint him as a victim.
Can we finally more on from this guy? He wasn’t very good anyway.
I am by no means a Kaepernick fan, but IIRC, the Broncos' offer came prior to 2016 and all the hooplah with his protests. Who cares what anyone offered him when he wasn't a liability?
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because their current starting QB sucks or there was injury to their starting QB
Panthers
Jaguars
Bucs
Dolphins
Broncos
Redskins
49ers
the fact he was never even brought in for a workout by one team shows that he was blacklisted .. to argue otherwise is just really delusional.
Newton played in 14 games last year. There was zero value bringing in CK at that point.
Winston has far more (arm) talent that CK ever did and has proven a hell of a lot more than CK. And I'm far from a Winston fan.
Keenum's 2017 is better than any season CK's ever had.
Redskins - depends what kind of football shape CK was in at that point and how much he wanted.
49ers - makes no sense being the last team he played for and the fact he lost his job to Blaine Gabbert.
Dolphins - Tannehill is a better QB than CK, though I'd take CK at $5M per over Tannehill for $18-20M or whatever he was making. No idea if CK was willing to do that and with a coach on the hot seat, no point in bringing in CK.
I'll give you the Jags. Bortles is trash and never should've been re-signed.
So of your 7, really only 1-3 (Jags + Skins + Fins) made sense. Problem for CK is that he's a backup level QB and not exactly young anymore. So while he might be better than the QBs for some teams (e.g. Dolphins), they are far better off trying to bring in a young QB with the potential to be a long term starter, than signing CK. And at the other end of the spectrum, most teams in the playoff hunt (Jags the primary exception) have established starters making serious money and aren't going to want to pay a backup significant money too.
because their current starting QB sucks or there was injury to their starting QB
Panthers
Jaguars
Bucs
Dolphins
Broncos
Redskins
49ers
the fact he was never even brought in for a workout by one team shows that he was blacklisted .. to argue otherwise is just really delusional.
Washingron was particularly desperate, but I might have paid good money to see Kapernick sign with the Redskins
I am by no means a Kaepernick fan, but IIRC, the Broncos' offer came prior to 2016 and all the hooplah with his protests. Who cares what anyone offered him when he wasn't a liability?
He was still on the 49ers as of 2016.
I did not know that. Thanks for the post.
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He chose not to. I'm no longer interested in this kabuki nonsense.
The Broncos thing was before any of the kneeling stuff. He chose to stay with the Niners. Has nothing to do with later being blacklisted which of course he was and not only do most people on this thread know that but they actually AGREE with it and think it's good thing that he was blacklisted.
As far as turning down the AAF, it's like a black-listed actor in the 1950's turning down dinner theater. Of course he doesn't want to do that.
I didn’t know that. I can’t say whether Kapernick would be competitive if the field, but I support his stance on kneeling during the anthem. It’s an important issue that is being hijacked by jingoism.
There's no way a QB with his talent and track record doesn't get a long look and offers from other teams unless something else is going on. It really isn't all that hard to understand. He pissed off a lot of people and NFL owners wanted no part of him or the blow-back from signing him. To keep pretending that all these teams just made football-only decisions about him is ludicrous.
Jeff George was out of football just two years after a very good season in Minnesota because teams just didn't want to deal with him, and he was a much more talented QB than Kaepernick ever was. How is this any different?
There's no way a QB with his talent and track record doesn't get a long look and offers from other teams unless something else is going on. It really isn't all that hard to understand. He pissed off a lot of people and NFL owners wanted no part of him or the blow-back from signing him. To keep pretending that all these teams just made football-only decisions about him is ludicrous.
Is Tebow being blackballed as well? Why didn't he get another chance? It's simple as both Tebow and Kaepernick aren't good enough to be starting QB's in the NFL and they create too much of a distraction, and in Kaep' case wants too much money, which isn't worth it for a backup QB that may never see the field.
Jeff George was out of football just two years after a very good season in Minnesota because teams just didn't want to deal with him, and he was a much more talented QB than Kaepernick ever was. How is this any different?
Well said Greg.
This is ridiculous. These owners cannot agree on anything unanimously
The owners individually evaluated Kaepernick and came to their own conclusion
Kaepernick over played his hand
He has some talent but his baggage along with his requested compensation made him undesirable
If Kaepernick was a top 10 QB one owner would have signed him regardless of his off the field issues
Ability trumps all
Jeff George was out of football just two years after a very good season in Minnesota because teams just didn't want to deal with him, and he was a much more talented QB than Kaepernick ever was. How is this any different?
Stop being rational!
Ability trumps all
Yes. Michael Vick got another chance despite baggage much worse than Kaepernick's because he was a much better QB.
Why would any team want the bad press and attention associated with a backup QB? It's a position that might not see playing time the entire season. He lost his starting job with the 49ers and also opted out of his contract.
Dude hasn't been in the league for 3 years and we still perseverate on the anthem. His presence on any team is only going to continue said perseveration.
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If Kaepernick was a top 10 QB one owner would have signed him regardless of his off the field issues
Ability trumps all
Yes. Michael Vick got another chance despite baggage much worse than Kaepernick's because he was a much better QB.
No, Vick got another chance because his offense didn't trigger NFL owners and fans as much as Kaepernick's.
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If Kaepernick was a top 10 QB one owner would have signed him regardless of his off the field issues
Ability trumps all
Yes. Michael Vick got another chance despite baggage much worse than Kaepernick's because he was a much better QB.
No, Vick got another chance because his offense didn't trigger NFL owners and fans as much as Kaepernick's.
I guess you missed all the protests lead by PETA and the fans. There was a lot of outrage when Vick was signed.
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My recollection was tha Kaepernick chose to leave San Fransico
He opted out of his contract
It is within Kaepernick’s intersest to propergate the concept that there was collusion
If he can prove collusion and fraud against the owners he can win an enormous amount of money in thx courts
That is Kaepernick’s end game
He cannot accept less than a certain amount of compensation as it would hurt his case
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I am by no means a Kaepernick fan, but IIRC, the Broncos' offer came prior to 2016 and all the hooplah with his protests. Who cares what anyone offered him when he wasn't a liability?
He was still on the 49ers as of 2016.
Please read my other post. You got the situation wrong, sir.
Kaep was playing poorly during the '15 season and was benched by the 49ers in Nov of '15.
Broncos were willing to trade for him in spring of '16 and let him compete for starting job, but wanted to restructure his contract (based on his current status).
Kaep didn't want his contract redone, i.e., paycut to go to Denver
Kaep started his protests early in '16 season (began sitting during anthem in preseason and then kneeling during regular season) as a non-starter for 49ers.
Bottom line, collusion isn't necessary for individual owners to decide on their own that he's not worth starter money, especially considering the distraction and financial damage (loss of revenue) he could bring to a franchise.
they postpone it indefinitely
NFL teams have workouts every week during the season .. for many positions even those they have depth in .. .. the fact is Kaepernick has never gotten a workout from one NFL team since he was released from SF .. this is the very definition of collusion.
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