I heard radio guys talking about the AAF offer and one point made was that it would only hurt Kaep to take it because if he played well people would discount it because it’s an inferior product. And, more importantly, if he played poorly it would say he sucks and that it was lack of talent which kept him off an nfl roster.
The settlement allows him to save face but also grab cash from Vince.
I just have a hard time believing a total collusion against Kaep Â
I just have a hard time believing a total collusion against Kaep
well . in the labor agreement with NFLPA there was extremely high level of proof against collusion so this proves the NFL owners certainly believe they colluded against Kaep or they would not have settled .
Odd timing right on the heels of the revelation that he turned down the AAF - which would have been GREAT evidence for the NFL in any trial (tended to show this guy wasn't so serious about football after all).
Odd timing right on the heels of the revelation that he turned down the AAF - which would have been GREAT evidence for the NFL in any trial (tended to show this guy wasn't so serious about football after all).
You do realize the AAF offer was 75k a yr .... If so you are really reaching ... SMH
Next time, just commit a violent crime, Colin - you’ll get plenty of chances.
Or if he somehow becomes a good QB he will get a chance. Does anyone honestly believe that if Kaepernick was a franchise or even above average quarterback he wouldn't have gotten any offers? Teams wouldn't have hesitated to give him a big contract if he was in fact good.
To me, he should have been playing in the NFL. However, I do understand that teams might not want the bad pub/backlash that comes with what he was doing.
At the same time, if the teams all got together and said stay away from this guy, that's collusion.
And a settlement and ND tells ya the owners were worried.............
It really isn't. 32 teams some with 2 owners in the case of the Giants. Each owner kick in $2M and you easily get the big number. $2M for owners such as Jerry Jones, Shad Khan, Kroenke etc. is nothing.
you settle even when you have a good case: it saves legal fees and keeps your fate in your hands no matter how small the chance.
The terms of the settlement are confidential so any speculation about amounts is just that, speculation. You can pretty much figure there is a statement of no admission of wrongdoing and non-disparagement on behalf of both parties because those are pretty standard clauses. The rest is all speculation.
He doesn't need to play, I'm sure between this and the Nike deal, he'll have plenty of time to be a full blown "activist" now.
Lots of unclassy posts on BBI. This one is right up there.
Not everyone can be classy like Kaepernick. From wearing socks depicting the police as pigs during training camp or wearing a Fidel Castro shirt and praised him during an interview with Armando Salguero who grew up in Cuba under Castro's oppression.
That this was just a no-win situation for the owners and they paid to have it go away?
Not saying there wasn't collusion but the NFL might have felt that letting this drag on would, in the long run, cost them a lot more than 60M-80M from the bad PR, even if they "won".
That this was just a no-win situation for the owners and they paid to have it go away?
Not saying there wasn't collusion but the NFL might have felt that letting this drag on would, in the long run, cost them a lot more than 60M-80M from the bad PR, even if they "won".
This is very possible but it's easier for some to claim the NFL lost big time because someone speculated about the 60-80 million which we obviously don't know is true because of the disclosure agreement.
we can all speculate on what actually happened, but this is probably the best for all parties:
1. For the NFL, this finally goes away and Kaep will have to drop making this an issue.
2. For Kaep, he gets paid, and can still be an activist. His brand will stay high
Depending where you sit on your impression of Kaep, systemic racism, the NFL, all parties can maintain their original opinions of what actually happened.
That this was just a no-win situation for the owners and they paid to have it go away?
Not saying there wasn't collusion but the NFL might have felt that letting this drag on would, in the long run, cost them a lot more than 60M-80M from the bad PR, even if they "won".
This along with what Homer mentioned above. A settlement doesn't mean CK's team had any evidence. Just a matter that the cost to settle is less than cost to go to trial. With the NFL worth billions, all it would take is for a judgement to be handed down that is punitive that would eclipse whatever they settled for. With a settlement, they can keep everything private. It goes to trial and it is public record.
Odd timing right on the heels of the revelation that he turned down the AAF - which would have been GREAT evidence for the NFL in any trial (tended to show this guy wasn't so serious about football after all).
You do realize the AAF offer was 75k a yr .... If so you are really reaching ... SMH
Doesn't matter how much it was for - it was an opportunity for him to showcase his talents in the closest league to the NFL. If he crushed it in the AAF, it would strengthen his claim that he's a viable QB. That he turned it down is still very telling as to his confidence in his own abilities. It's absolutely relevant.
Doesn't matter how much it was for - it was an opportunity for him to showcase his talents in the closest league to the NFL. If he crushed it in the AAF, it would strengthen his claim that he's a viable QB. That he turned it down is still very telling as to his confidence in his own abilities. It's absolutely relevant.
Only he knows, but I think it's silly to think the reason he turned it down was concern that his performance would make him look like he's lost his abilities.
My guess is they probably found some texts or emails Â
during the investigation that may not have been collusion, but something more damning to the image of the owners. By adding an ND clause they save some of the owners the damaged images they may have suffered. As well as possibly being forced to sell their teams.
Just a guess. Although if Kap was really down for his cause he would have turned down the money and blown the lid off the NFL. I guess we will never know.
I think the gag is about the terms of the agreement. I can't believe it would gag him from speaking his mind about vulnerabilities of young black men etc.
That this was just a no-win situation for the owners and they paid to have it go away?
Not saying there wasn't collusion but the NFL might have felt that letting this drag on would, in the long run, cost them a lot more than 60M-80M from the bad PR, even if they "won".
Probably. I'm sure the NFL did a cost-benefit analysis of multiple outcomes and decided this was the best way to bring this to an end, and try to keep it confidential. Take the one-time hit and hope Kaepernick fades away.
Only a matter of time before the details get leaked.
So what will happen if another player starts the whole Â
Next time, just commit a violent crime, Colin - you’ll get plenty of chances.
Or if he somehow becomes a good QB he will get a chance. Does anyone honestly believe that if Kaepernick was a franchise or even above average quarterback he wouldn't have gotten any offers? Teams wouldn't have hesitated to give him a big contract if he was in fact good.
You do realize that this man took a team to the Super Bowl and couldn't get a shake after the kneeling, yet Nate "freaking" Pederman threw 4 or 5 picks in his first game and got no better from there. Yet he still can get a backup gig. I didn't think he was a top tier QB, but he's much better than many that are holding clipboards and some that are starters.
I know many are fatigued by the racial issue, but imagine being on the other end of the spectrum where you are on the receiving end of racism. They get tired of it too!
Next time, just commit a violent crime, Colin - you’ll get plenty of chances.
Or if he somehow becomes a good QB he will get a chance. Does anyone honestly believe that if Kaepernick was a franchise or even above average quarterback he wouldn't have gotten any offers? Teams wouldn't have hesitated to give him a big contract if he was in fact good.
You do realize that this man took a team to the Super Bowl and couldn't get a shake after the kneeling, yet Nate "freaking" Pederman threw 4 or 5 picks in his first game and got no better from there. Yet he still can get a backup gig. I didn't think he was a top tier QB, but he's much better than many that are holding clipboards and some that are starters.
I know many are fatigued by the racial issue, but imagine being on the other end of the spectrum where you are on the receiving end of racism. They get tired of it too!
CK didn't want a back up job. At least not for back up money. That's a problem when he won't sign for Pederman money.
Next time, just commit a violent crime, Colin - you’ll get plenty of chances.
Or if he somehow becomes a good QB he will get a chance. Does anyone honestly believe that if Kaepernick was a franchise or even above average quarterback he wouldn't have gotten any offers? Teams wouldn't have hesitated to give him a big contract if he was in fact good.
You do realize that this man took a team to the Super Bowl and couldn't get a shake after the kneeling, yet Nate "freaking" Pederman threw 4 or 5 picks in his first game and got no better from there. Yet he still can get a backup gig. I didn't think he was a top tier QB, but he's much better than many that are holding clipboards and some that are starters.
I know many are fatigued by the racial issue, but imagine being on the other end of the spectrum where you are on the receiving end of racism. They get tired of it too!
race agitation is big business. There's another fake news/hoax breaking today.
Next time, just commit a violent crime, Colin - you’ll get plenty of chances.
Or if he somehow becomes a good QB he will get a chance. Does anyone honestly believe that if Kaepernick was a franchise or even above average quarterback he wouldn't have gotten any offers? Teams wouldn't have hesitated to give him a big contract if he was in fact good.
You do realize that this man took a team to the Super Bowl and couldn't get a shake after the kneeling, yet Nate "freaking" Pederman threw 4 or 5 picks in his first game and got no better from there. Yet he still can get a backup gig. I didn't think he was a top tier QB, but he's much better than many that are holding clipboards and some that are starters.
I know many are fatigued by the racial issue, but imagine being on the other end of the spectrum where you are on the receiving end of racism. They get tired of it too!
Ah yes he is clearly a victim. A victim who received millions more from Nike than he would have received as a journeyman backup. Alex Smith nearly took the 49ers to the SB the year before and had much better numbers in Harbaugh's scheme.
for the NFL. This doesn't mean anything in terms of admission of guilt. The NFL is a billion dollar business. 60-80 million dollars is nothing to get this guy to go away.
There was probably no collusion going on. These are billion dollar business men. They didn't get to where they are by making careless decisions. signing Kaepernick to be a backup makes no sense for their business. Very little reward for the risk
Odd timing right on the heels of the revelation that he turned down the AAF - which would have been GREAT evidence for the NFL in any trial (tended to show this guy wasn't so serious about football after all).
You do realize the AAF offer was 75k a yr .... If so you are really reaching ... SMH
Doesn't matter how much it was for - it was an opportunity for him to showcase his talents in the closest league to the NFL. If he crushed it in the AAF, it would strengthen his claim that he's a viable QB. That he turned it down is still very telling as to his confidence in his own abilities. It's absolutely relevant.
I don't think it's relevant. Kaepernick has been gone from the game long enough to where skill erosion is a definite possibility and legitimate reason not to sign him. Has no bearing on when he was blackballed.
Question but why couldn’t Tebow sue the nfl? It was made clear Tebow wasn’t worth the circus media that he brings. I would argue Tebow at his time was worth a top 64 qb slot. I think both kapernick and Tebow both suck by the way.
That this was just a no-win situation for the owners and they paid to have it go away?
Not saying there wasn't collusion but the NFL might have felt that letting this drag on would, in the long run, cost them a lot more than 60M-80M from the bad PR, even if they "won".
Probably. I'm sure the NFL did a cost-benefit analysis of multiple outcomes and decided this was the best way to bring this to an end, and try to keep it confidential. Take the one-time hit and hope Kaepernick fades away.
Only a matter of time before the details get leaked.
When you look at the motley crew of absolutely assholes who own NFL teams, and the closed loop culture that allowed someone to literally record and release their closed door sessions, good chance someone said something abhorrent on record and the NFL didn't want this released.
Personally I don't like either side very much... Â
The NFL owners are idiots for not being appropriately sensitive to the situation and letting it get out of control.
My opinion of Kaep is that he is not a starting quality QB, and he knows it. He started the kneel down thing because it was something he believed in and it is a valid concern for society. But, I also believe that he sensed that it had morphed into something else, and he moved to take advantage of it. He has now gotten a payday beyond anything he could have expected playing in the NFL, and he hasn't had to sacrifice his body. He can now sit back and live a life of luxury that he didn't really earn. Gotta give him credit for a smart move. I doubt that ever even attempts to play another down of professional football.
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The NFL owners are idiots for not being appropriately sensitive to the situation and letting it get out of control.
My opinion of Kaep is that he is not a starting quality QB, and he knows it. He started the kneel down thing because it was something he believed in and it is a valid concern for society. But, I also believe that he sensed that it had morphed into something else, and he moved to take advantage of it. He has now gotten a payday beyond anything he could have expected playing in the NFL, and he hasn't had to sacrifice his body. He can now sit back and live a life of luxury that he didn't really earn. Gotta give him credit for a smart move. I doubt that ever even attempts to play another down of professional football.
To your last point, I wouldn't be surprised if part of the condition of the settlement is that CK does not pursue employment with an NFL team. He could very well attempt to catch on with the CFL or the XFL, but he'll never be paid what he thinks he is worth.
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To your last point, I wouldn't be surprised if part of the condition of the settlement is that CK does not pursue employment with an NFL team. He could very well attempt to catch on with the CFL or the XFL, but he'll never be paid what he thinks he is worth.
You may be right about the NFL stipulation... But then playing in any other league is a huge risk to his brand if it turns out he sucks. Not worth it. Better to take the advertising contracts, and play the SJW... More $$$ in that.
Opted out of 9ers contract looking for a big pay day before he kneeled.
Yea NFL payed him off$$$$ big time if he was truly a man of the people would donate all his money to socialist agendas
Opted out of 9ers contract looking for a big pay day before he kneeled.
Yea NFL payed him off$$$$ big time if he was truly a man of the people would donate all his money to socialist agendas
Yes Comrade! Workers of the world unite and overthrow your bourgeoisie oppressors!
that’s right! unless he donates all of the money to which he is entitled (and much of which he may have earned outright if he received a contract on merit) he’s a fraud and a hypocrite!
Google QB Rating during the last year Kapernick was QB. Solidly middle of the pack of NFL Starters. He’s a Starting NFL QB.
Is Jason Campbell a starting NFL QB? Their QB ratings are very similar which is proof that QB rating isn't a great barometer in evaluating QB's.
"No. No. I use many stats. Let me tell you...You have stats that are far worse than the ones that I use, but I use many stats."
A simple google search shows (via Pro Football Reference) Campbell with a career rating of 81.7 and Kaepernick with 88.9. Not sure how that’s similar unless we’re going in 10-level increments. Then we can play all kinds of games with numbers! I can make claims too without backing them up.
Your name, btw Motley, checks out in line with your comment.
Despite the fact that the NFL paid out what was likely tens of millions of dollars to Kaep for this debacle, what this really proves is that there was no collusion or blackballing and it's really a big loss for Kaepernick.
As we all know, NFL owners are famously generous and are happy to hand out eight figure settlements for no reason at all.
64.6 completion percentage on 164 attempts1,093 passing yards for 9 TD, 2 INT and passer rating of 96.927 rushes for 188 yards and 1 TD
Blake Bortles 2015 4428 yards 35 tds 18 int's
Any QB can look good for a small stretch when their team sucks and they are compiling stats in garbage time.
64.6 completion percentage on 164 attempts1,093 passing yards for 9 TD, 2 INT and passer rating of 96.927 rushes for 188 yards and 1 TD
Blake Bortles 2015 4428 yards 35 tds 18 int's
Any QB can look good for a small stretch when their team sucks and they are compiling stats in garbage time.
He led them to a Super Bowl. And don’t fool yourself. He did lead them. It wasn’t a case of Brad Johnson or Trent Dilfer or old Peyton Manning. Kaep has belonged in the NFL. This isn’t cherry picking stats.
He doesn't need to play, I'm sure between this and the Nike deal, he'll have plenty of time to be a full blown "activist" now.
Lots of unclassy posts on BBI. This one is right up there.
Not everyone can be classy like Kaepernick. From wearing socks depicting the police as pigs during training camp or wearing a Fidel Castro shirt and praised him during an interview with Armando Salguero who grew up in Cuba under Castro's oppression.
Visiting a friend today and his dad is recovering from
A car accident. 82. We were talking abou His dad at lunch. Cuban who was put before a firing squad by CAstro and by the grace of God spared. His family had to flea like criminals But hey. Classy Colin admires their literacy rate.
Despite the fact that the NFL paid out what was likely tens of millions of dollars to Kaep for this debacle, what this really proves is that there was no collusion or blackballing and it's really a big loss for Kaepernick.
As we all know, NFL owners are famously generous and are happy to hand out eight figure settlements for no reason at all.
I don't think one person here has said 'this proves the NFL didn't collude'
The point of a settlement is that we'll never know what happened. We also have no idea whaf Kaep actually got paid. Maybe it was $80 mil... maybe it was a quarter of that.
He doesn't need to play, I'm sure between this and the Nike deal, he'll have plenty of time to be a full blown "activist" now.
Lots of unclassy posts on BBI. This one is right up there.
Not everyone can be classy like Kaepernick. From wearing socks depicting the police as pigs during training camp or wearing a Fidel Castro shirt and praised him during an interview with Armando Salguero who grew up in Cuba under Castro's oppression.
Visiting a friend today and his dad is recovering from
A car accident. 82. We were talking abou His dad at lunch. Cuban who was put before a firing squad by CAstro and by the grace of God spared. His family had to flea like criminals But hey. Classy Colin admires their literacy rate.
Kal is an pile of shit. His defenders are worse.
I’m not going to argue Castro and Cubans.
But to point out an article of clothing and judge a person’a worth on that alone seems somewhat narrow. But feel free to point to tiny gestures for your confirmation of who he is.
But to point out an article of clothing and judge a person’a worth on that alone seems somewhat narrow. But feel free to point to tiny gestures for your confirmation of who he is.
Ironically, what is all the rage nowadays arguing against your point.
But to point out an article of clothing and judge a person’a worth on that alone seems somewhat narrow. But feel free to point to tiny gestures for your confirmation of who he is.
Ironically, what is all the rage nowadays arguing against your point.
Then it serves to dilute the message. It becomes fashion, not messaging on him supporting castro.
The settlement allows him to save face but also grab cash from Vince.
Kaepernick is just as responsible for not having a job in the NFL as the owners & NFL are.
really? Damn...
I wonder how much was at risk if it went to trial?
well . in the labor agreement with NFLPA there was extremely high level of proof against collusion so this proves the NFL owners certainly believe they colluded against Kaep or they would not have settled .
thats probably what they are really paying for, and to keep the details exposed in the trial out of the public eye.
LOL....exactly.
You do realize the AAF offer was 75k a yr .... If so you are really reaching ... SMH
Or if he somehow becomes a good QB he will get a chance. Does anyone honestly believe that if Kaepernick was a franchise or even above average quarterback he wouldn't have gotten any offers? Teams wouldn't have hesitated to give him a big contract if he was in fact good.
To me, he should have been playing in the NFL. However, I do understand that teams might not want the bad pub/backlash that comes with what he was doing.
At the same time, if the teams all got together and said stay away from this guy, that's collusion.
And a settlement and ND tells ya the owners were worried.............
It really isn't. 32 teams some with 2 owners in the case of the Giants. Each owner kick in $2M and you easily get the big number. $2M for owners such as Jerry Jones, Shad Khan, Kroenke etc. is nothing.
Nostrovia for the veiled comment... I would not surprise me if all the owners did blackball Kap..
The terms of the settlement are confidential so any speculation about amounts is just that, speculation. You can pretty much figure there is a statement of no admission of wrongdoing and non-disparagement on behalf of both parties because those are pretty standard clauses. The rest is all speculation.
Lots of unclassy posts on BBI. This one is right up there.
You know the Mara want no part of this controversy....
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He doesn't need to play, I'm sure between this and the Nike deal, he'll have plenty of time to be a full blown "activist" now.
Lots of unclassy posts on BBI. This one is right up there.
Not everyone can be classy like Kaepernick. From wearing socks depicting the police as pigs during training camp or wearing a Fidel Castro shirt and praised him during an interview with Armando Salguero who grew up in Cuba under Castro's oppression.
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Thought it was collusion from the beginning, it's clear that was true
really? Damn...
I wonder how much was at risk if it went to trial?
I would think Kaep's lawyers must have some solid collusion evidence if he got this windfall.
Not saying there wasn't collusion but the NFL might have felt that letting this drag on would, in the long run, cost them a lot more than 60M-80M from the bad PR, even if they "won".
Not saying there wasn't collusion but the NFL might have felt that letting this drag on would, in the long run, cost them a lot more than 60M-80M from the bad PR, even if they "won".
This is very possible but it's easier for some to claim the NFL lost big time because someone speculated about the 60-80 million which we obviously don't know is true because of the disclosure agreement.
1. For the NFL, this finally goes away and Kaep will have to drop making this an issue.
2. For Kaep, he gets paid, and can still be an activist. His brand will stay high
Depending where you sit on your impression of Kaep, systemic racism, the NFL, all parties can maintain their original opinions of what actually happened.
Not saying there wasn't collusion but the NFL might have felt that letting this drag on would, in the long run, cost them a lot more than 60M-80M from the bad PR, even if they "won".
This along with what Homer mentioned above. A settlement doesn't mean CK's team had any evidence. Just a matter that the cost to settle is less than cost to go to trial. With the NFL worth billions, all it would take is for a judgement to be handed down that is punitive that would eclipse whatever they settled for. With a settlement, they can keep everything private. It goes to trial and it is public record.
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Odd timing right on the heels of the revelation that he turned down the AAF - which would have been GREAT evidence for the NFL in any trial (tended to show this guy wasn't so serious about football after all).
You do realize the AAF offer was 75k a yr .... If so you are really reaching ... SMH
Doesn't matter how much it was for - it was an opportunity for him to showcase his talents in the closest league to the NFL. If he crushed it in the AAF, it would strengthen his claim that he's a viable QB. That he turned it down is still very telling as to his confidence in his own abilities. It's absolutely relevant.
Only he knows, but I think it's silly to think the reason he turned it down was concern that his performance would make him look like he's lost his abilities.
Just a guess. Although if Kap was really down for his cause he would have turned down the money and blown the lid off the NFL. I guess we will never know.
Not saying there wasn't collusion but the NFL might have felt that letting this drag on would, in the long run, cost them a lot more than 60M-80M from the bad PR, even if they "won".
Probably. I'm sure the NFL did a cost-benefit analysis of multiple outcomes and decided this was the best way to bring this to an end, and try to keep it confidential. Take the one-time hit and hope Kaepernick fades away.
Only a matter of time before the details get leaked.
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Next time, just commit a violent crime, Colin - you’ll get plenty of chances.
Or if he somehow becomes a good QB he will get a chance. Does anyone honestly believe that if Kaepernick was a franchise or even above average quarterback he wouldn't have gotten any offers? Teams wouldn't have hesitated to give him a big contract if he was in fact good.
You do realize that this man took a team to the Super Bowl and couldn't get a shake after the kneeling, yet Nate "freaking" Pederman threw 4 or 5 picks in his first game and got no better from there. Yet he still can get a backup gig. I didn't think he was a top tier QB, but he's much better than many that are holding clipboards and some that are starters.
I know many are fatigued by the racial issue, but imagine being on the other end of the spectrum where you are on the receiving end of racism. They get tired of it too!
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Next time, just commit a violent crime, Colin - you’ll get plenty of chances.
Or if he somehow becomes a good QB he will get a chance. Does anyone honestly believe that if Kaepernick was a franchise or even above average quarterback he wouldn't have gotten any offers? Teams wouldn't have hesitated to give him a big contract if he was in fact good.
You do realize that this man took a team to the Super Bowl and couldn't get a shake after the kneeling, yet Nate "freaking" Pederman threw 4 or 5 picks in his first game and got no better from there. Yet he still can get a backup gig. I didn't think he was a top tier QB, but he's much better than many that are holding clipboards and some that are starters.
I know many are fatigued by the racial issue, but imagine being on the other end of the spectrum where you are on the receiving end of racism. They get tired of it too!
CK didn't want a back up job. At least not for back up money. That's a problem when he won't sign for Pederman money.
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Next time, just commit a violent crime, Colin - you’ll get plenty of chances.
Or if he somehow becomes a good QB he will get a chance. Does anyone honestly believe that if Kaepernick was a franchise or even above average quarterback he wouldn't have gotten any offers? Teams wouldn't have hesitated to give him a big contract if he was in fact good.
You do realize that this man took a team to the Super Bowl and couldn't get a shake after the kneeling, yet Nate "freaking" Pederman threw 4 or 5 picks in his first game and got no better from there. Yet he still can get a backup gig. I didn't think he was a top tier QB, but he's much better than many that are holding clipboards and some that are starters.
I know many are fatigued by the racial issue, but imagine being on the other end of the spectrum where you are on the receiving end of racism. They get tired of it too!
race agitation is big business. There's another fake news/hoax breaking today.
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Next time, just commit a violent crime, Colin - you’ll get plenty of chances.
Or if he somehow becomes a good QB he will get a chance. Does anyone honestly believe that if Kaepernick was a franchise or even above average quarterback he wouldn't have gotten any offers? Teams wouldn't have hesitated to give him a big contract if he was in fact good.
You do realize that this man took a team to the Super Bowl and couldn't get a shake after the kneeling, yet Nate "freaking" Pederman threw 4 or 5 picks in his first game and got no better from there. Yet he still can get a backup gig. I didn't think he was a top tier QB, but he's much better than many that are holding clipboards and some that are starters.
I know many are fatigued by the racial issue, but imagine being on the other end of the spectrum where you are on the receiving end of racism. They get tired of it too!
Ah yes he is clearly a victim. A victim who received millions more from Nike than he would have received as a journeyman backup. Alex Smith nearly took the 49ers to the SB the year before and had much better numbers in Harbaugh's scheme.
There was probably no collusion going on. These are billion dollar business men. They didn't get to where they are by making careless decisions. signing Kaepernick to be a backup makes no sense for their business. Very little reward for the risk
Is Jason Campbell a starting NFL QB? Their QB ratings are very similar which is proof that QB rating isn't a great barometer in evaluating QB's.
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Google QB Rating during the last year Kapernick was QB. Solidly middle of the pack of NFL Starters. He’s a Starting NFL QB.
Is Jason Campbell a starting NFL QB? Their QB ratings are very similar which is proof that QB rating isn't a great barometer in evaluating QB's.
"No. No. I use many stats. Let me tell you...You have stats that are far worse than the ones that I use, but I use many stats."
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Odd timing right on the heels of the revelation that he turned down the AAF - which would have been GREAT evidence for the NFL in any trial (tended to show this guy wasn't so serious about football after all).
You do realize the AAF offer was 75k a yr .... If so you are really reaching ... SMH
Doesn't matter how much it was for - it was an opportunity for him to showcase his talents in the closest league to the NFL. If he crushed it in the AAF, it would strengthen his claim that he's a viable QB. That he turned it down is still very telling as to his confidence in his own abilities. It's absolutely relevant.
I don't think it's relevant. Kaepernick has been gone from the game long enough to where skill erosion is a definite possibility and legitimate reason not to sign him. Has no bearing on when he was blackballed.
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That this was just a no-win situation for the owners and they paid to have it go away?
Not saying there wasn't collusion but the NFL might have felt that letting this drag on would, in the long run, cost them a lot more than 60M-80M from the bad PR, even if they "won".
Probably. I'm sure the NFL did a cost-benefit analysis of multiple outcomes and decided this was the best way to bring this to an end, and try to keep it confidential. Take the one-time hit and hope Kaepernick fades away.
Only a matter of time before the details get leaked.
When you look at the motley crew of absolutely assholes who own NFL teams, and the closed loop culture that allowed someone to literally record and release their closed door sessions, good chance someone said something abhorrent on record and the NFL didn't want this released.
My opinion of Kaep is that he is not a starting quality QB, and he knows it. He started the kneel down thing because it was something he believed in and it is a valid concern for society. But, I also believe that he sensed that it had morphed into something else, and he moved to take advantage of it. He has now gotten a payday beyond anything he could have expected playing in the NFL, and he hasn't had to sacrifice his body. He can now sit back and live a life of luxury that he didn't really earn. Gotta give him credit for a smart move. I doubt that ever even attempts to play another down of professional football.
My opinion of Kaep is that he is not a starting quality QB, and he knows it. He started the kneel down thing because it was something he believed in and it is a valid concern for society. But, I also believe that he sensed that it had morphed into something else, and he moved to take advantage of it. He has now gotten a payday beyond anything he could have expected playing in the NFL, and he hasn't had to sacrifice his body. He can now sit back and live a life of luxury that he didn't really earn. Gotta give him credit for a smart move. I doubt that ever even attempts to play another down of professional football.
To your last point, I wouldn't be surprised if part of the condition of the settlement is that CK does not pursue employment with an NFL team. He could very well attempt to catch on with the CFL or the XFL, but he'll never be paid what he thinks he is worth.
To your last point, I wouldn't be surprised if part of the condition of the settlement is that CK does not pursue employment with an NFL team. He could very well attempt to catch on with the CFL or the XFL, but he'll never be paid what he thinks he is worth.
You may be right about the NFL stipulation... But then playing in any other league is a huge risk to his brand if it turns out he sucks. Not worth it. Better to take the advertising contracts, and play the SJW... More $$$ in that.
Yea NFL payed him off$$$$ big time if he was truly a man of the people would donate all his money to socialist agendas
Yea NFL payed him off$$$$ big time if he was truly a man of the people would donate all his money to socialist agendas
Yes Comrade! Workers of the world unite and overthrow your bourgeoisie oppressors!
that’s right! unless he donates all of the money to which he is entitled (and much of which he may have earned outright if he received a contract on merit) he’s a fraud and a hypocrite!
And now you understand why NFL teams blackballed him.
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Google QB Rating during the last year Kapernick was QB. Solidly middle of the pack of NFL Starters. He’s a Starting NFL QB.
Is Jason Campbell a starting NFL QB? Their QB ratings are very similar which is proof that QB rating isn't a great barometer in evaluating QB's.
"No. No. I use many stats. Let me tell you...You have stats that are far worse than the ones that I use, but I use many stats."
A simple google search shows (via Pro Football Reference) Campbell with a career rating of 81.7 and Kaepernick with 88.9. Not sure how that’s similar unless we’re going in 10-level increments. Then we can play all kinds of games with numbers! I can make claims too without backing them up.
Your name, btw Motley, checks out in line with your comment.
No one gives a flying fuck what you do as long as you are good at your job
LT, ray Lewis, Ray rice, Sue, TO , Plax, Stallworth, no one gives a shit about how awful these guys were because they were good at what they did.
what is also obvious is that people care a great deal if you suggest that maybe some police are a piece of shit.
64.6 completion percentage on 164 attempts1,093 passing yards for 9 TD, 2 INT and passer rating of 96.927 rushes for 188 yards and 1 TD
67.1 completion percentage on 176 attempts1,542 passing yards for 6 TD, 5 INT and passer rating of 94.014 rushes for 7 yards and 1 TD
As we all know, NFL owners are famously generous and are happy to hand out eight figure settlements for no reason at all.
64.6 completion percentage on 164 attempts1,093 passing yards for 9 TD, 2 INT and passer rating of 96.927 rushes for 188 yards and 1 TD
Blake Bortles 2015 4428 yards 35 tds 18 int's
Any QB can look good for a small stretch when their team sucks and they are compiling stats in garbage time.
You have no case because you are talentless.
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Colin Kaepernick last five full games in 2016:
64.6 completion percentage on 164 attempts1,093 passing yards for 9 TD, 2 INT and passer rating of 96.927 rushes for 188 yards and 1 TD
Blake Bortles 2015 4428 yards 35 tds 18 int's
Any QB can look good for a small stretch when their team sucks and they are compiling stats in garbage time.
He led them to a Super Bowl. And don’t fool yourself. He did lead them. It wasn’t a case of Brad Johnson or Trent Dilfer or old Peyton Manning. Kaep has belonged in the NFL. This isn’t cherry picking stats.
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He doesn't need to play, I'm sure between this and the Nike deal, he'll have plenty of time to be a full blown "activist" now.
Lots of unclassy posts on BBI. This one is right up there.
Not everyone can be classy like Kaepernick. From wearing socks depicting the police as pigs during training camp or wearing a Fidel Castro shirt and praised him during an interview with Armando Salguero who grew up in Cuba under Castro's oppression.
Visiting a friend today and his dad is recovering from
A car accident. 82. We were talking abou His dad at lunch. Cuban who was put before a firing squad by CAstro and by the grace of God spared. His family had to flea like criminals But hey. Classy Colin admires their literacy rate.
Kal is an pile of shit. His defenders are worse.
As we all know, NFL owners are famously generous and are happy to hand out eight figure settlements for no reason at all.
I don't think one person here has said 'this proves the NFL didn't collude'
The point of a settlement is that we'll never know what happened. We also have no idea whaf Kaep actually got paid. Maybe it was $80 mil... maybe it was a quarter of that.
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He doesn't need to play, I'm sure between this and the Nike deal, he'll have plenty of time to be a full blown "activist" now.
Lots of unclassy posts on BBI. This one is right up there.
Not everyone can be classy like Kaepernick. From wearing socks depicting the police as pigs during training camp or wearing a Fidel Castro shirt and praised him during an interview with Armando Salguero who grew up in Cuba under Castro's oppression.
Visiting a friend today and his dad is recovering from
A car accident. 82. We were talking abou His dad at lunch. Cuban who was put before a firing squad by CAstro and by the grace of God spared. His family had to flea like criminals But hey. Classy Colin admires their literacy rate.
Kal is an pile of shit. His defenders are worse.
I’m not going to argue Castro and Cubans.
But to point out an article of clothing and judge a person’a worth on that alone seems somewhat narrow. But feel free to point to tiny gestures for your confirmation of who he is.
I’m not going to argue Castro and Cubans.
But to point out an article of clothing and judge a person’a worth on that alone seems somewhat narrow. But feel free to point to tiny gestures for your confirmation of who he is.
Ironically, what is all the rage nowadays arguing against your point.
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I’m not going to argue Castro and Cubans.
But to point out an article of clothing and judge a person’a worth on that alone seems somewhat narrow. But feel free to point to tiny gestures for your confirmation of who he is.
Ironically, what is all the rage nowadays arguing against your point.
Then it serves to dilute the message. It becomes fashion, not messaging on him supporting castro.