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widmerseyebrow : 2/16/2019 9:50 pm
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Just a ridiculous story and still confusing  
Ssanders9816 : 2/16/2019 9:57 pm : link
But the latest evidence points to him orchestrating the entire thing. Police have asked to speak with him and he’s already lawyered up.

Hope he’s charged.
It all seemed really weird and suspect  
bigblue12 : 2/16/2019 9:58 pm : link
From afar
I’ve never seen the show but from what I’ve read in the news  
The_Boss : 2/16/2019 9:58 pm : link
The writers were rumored to be considering writing him off the show? Maybe he orchestrated this whole thing to generate pity which might have swayed the writers to take a different direction with his character?
I said it was a hoax (based on what I read)  
pjcas18 : 2/16/2019 9:59 pm : link
in the initial thread on here about it and people came after me for it (like the pitchfork mafia usually does on here).

that thread was deleted, fortunately for many of the people who showed their asses on it.
It seemed off..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/16/2019 10:01 pm : link
when they mentioned they had two people in for questioning from Africa and I wondered why a foreigner would be spewing crap about MAGA
I’ll  
Eli owns all : 2/16/2019 10:27 pm : link
Wait for the outrage if he did do all of this. Which seems likely be did.
RE: It seemed off..  
Mad Mike : 2/16/2019 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14298593 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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when they mentioned they had two people in for questioning from Africa and I wondered why a foreigner would be spewing crap about MAGA

Yeah, that didn't make sense. When they made the arrests, there were reports that they were investigating him having some involvement, and the police department refuted that. But it certainly seemed weird that the suspects would have assaulted someone the way he'd described.
Reminded me of the Ray Donovan scene this year  
MetsAreBack : 2/16/2019 10:41 pm : link
. Wonder if one influenced the other
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Banks : 2/16/2019 10:41 pm : link
I haven't the followed the story and don't know the actor from anything i watch, but the story sounded odd. The attackers sounded like they used dialogue out of bad movie. It's also odd that a couple of racist would be so knowledgeable of Empire State that they recognize him and know his character's story.

On the other hand, who would be that insanely stupid to make this up.
He publicly supported an anti-lynching bill a  
madgiantscow009 : 2/16/2019 10:48 pm : link
week earlier. The weirdest thing was he kept the rope around his neck for an hour or so before he called the cops.
Reports from a reliable sourse  
madgiantscow009 : 2/16/2019 11:19 pm : link
so take that with a grain of salt. They were paid 4,000.

Twitter guy:

Charlie De Mar
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@CharlieDeMar


chicago.cbslocal
boy who cried wolf  
Mr. Nickels : 2/16/2019 11:35 pm : link
this keeps happening over and over and over
If I remember the original thread  
Zeke's Alibi : 2/16/2019 11:36 pm : link
There was a sizeable proportion of people that felt like this was real. If this story didn't raise your bullshit flag I don't know how you make it through life. Maybe you want to subconsciously believe it to be the case for "ammo" idk. But time and time again these far fetched attacks turn out to be hoaxs from the girl who etched B into her head to the kid with the noose on campus.
RE: If I remember the original thread  
widmerseyebrow : 2/16/2019 11:48 pm : link
In comment 14298619 Zeke's Alibi said:
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There was a sizeable proportion of people that felt like this was real. If this story didn't raise your bullshit flag I don't know how you make it through life. Maybe you want to subconsciously believe it to be the case for "ammo" idk. But time and time again these far fetched attacks turn out to be hoaxs from the girl who etched B into her head to the kid with the noose on campus.


Or Michael Bennett vs. Las Vegas Metro
RE: RE: If I remember the original thread  
PatersonPlank : 2/17/2019 12:22 am : link
In comment 14298620 widmerseyebrow said:
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In comment 14298619 Zeke's Alibi said:


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There was a sizeable proportion of people that felt like this was real. If this story didn't raise your bullshit flag I don't know how you make it through life. Maybe you want to subconsciously believe it to be the case for "ammo" idk. But time and time again these far fetched attacks turn out to be hoaxs from the girl who etched B into her head to the kid with the noose on campus.



Or Michael Bennett vs. Las Vegas Metro


Duke LaCross
Twana Braley (ie Al Sharpton)
etc
If this did not scream complete bullshit  
SomeFan : 2/17/2019 3:59 am : link
to you, then you are stupid.
Really sad story to think  
section125 : 2/17/2019 7:08 am : link
somebody would shoot his career in the foot by staging a fake racist/homophobic attack. When I saw the picture of the two guys that supposedly attacked him, the bullshit meter went full tilt. Those two guys would have ripped him apart, big dudes. The rope around the neck thing was double weird. I think anyone in that position would have pulled that off immediately, not let it linger there.

Just WTF was he thinking this would accomplish.
RE: .  
spike : 2/17/2019 7:10 am : link
In comment 14298606 Banks said:
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I haven't the followed the story and don't know the actor from anything i watch, but the story sounded odd. The attackers sounded like they used dialogue out of bad movie. It's also odd that a couple of racist would be so knowledgeable of Empire State that they recognize him and know his character's story.

On the other hand, who would be that insanely stupid to make this up.


It is called acting
If faked,  
XBRONX : 2/17/2019 7:22 am : link
its very popular nowadays to just make shit up.
I thought it very odd, that he did not remove rope around his neck  
George from PA : 2/17/2019 7:46 am : link
....immediately thought it was for show.

Sad, sad mental state of many people
Very plausible,  
GiantsUA : 2/17/2019 8:30 am : link
if true, he needs a lot of help.
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arcarsenal : 2/17/2019 8:43 am : link
The story sounded suspect from the start - but I absolutely hate to call BS on something that could have been a horrible experience for someone unless I'm sure it's BS.

That said, if it's true that he orchestrated this and actually had a hand in it, he should be tried for the exact crimes he's accused his attackers of.

This is how we erase progress. With stunts like these.

Again, I am going to reserve judgement until we have more facts because I'd hate to really go in on criticizing the guy if he really was attacked. But, it's not sounding good for him right now and if he had anything to do with fabricating/making this entire thing up, shame on him. Really despicable and could have had innocent people dealing with legal pitfalls.
Story  
TyreeHelmet : 2/17/2019 8:50 am : link
Was complete bullshit from the beginning. It just wasn’t plausible and his actions revealed it was false.

This guy should be made an example of to stop these false claims. It’s hurt police and the real victims of crime. Deserves to be charged to the full extent of the law.
The really sad part about all of this is that it  
Ryan in Albany : 2/17/2019 8:50 am : link
made it harder for every victim of a hate crime to report.
RE: Really sad story to think  
mfsd : 2/17/2019 8:51 am : link
In comment 14298651 section125 said:
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somebody would shoot his career in the foot by staging a fake racist/homophobic attack. When I saw the picture of the two guys that supposedly attacked him, the bullshit meter went full tilt. Those two guys would have ripped him apart, big dudes. The rope around the neck thing was double weird. I think anyone in that position would have pulled that off immediately, not let it linger there.

Just WTF was he thinking this would accomplish.


I read a rumor somewhere that he was going to be written off the show, and hinted that may have been the motive.

The show runners quickly denied that, but who knows.

Forget the source so can’t link.

Weird story, either way
RE: Really sad story to think  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 2/17/2019 8:55 am : link
In comment 14298651 section125 said:
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somebody would shoot his career in the foot by staging a fake racist/homophobic attack. When I saw the picture of the two guys that supposedly attacked him, the bullshit meter went full tilt. Those two guys would have ripped him apart, big dudes. The rope around the neck thing was double weird. I think anyone in that position would have pulled that off immediately, not let it linger there.

Just WTF was he thinking this would accomplish.
The two guys were extras on the show he is on.
RE: The really sad part about all of this is that it  
arcarsenal : 2/17/2019 8:58 am : link
In comment 14298677 Ryan in Albany said:
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made it harder for every victim of a hate crime to report.


Yes - that's why this is truly terrible if he really did orchestrate this. Because now it has a trickle down effect where hate crime victims are going to be more apprehensive about coming forward in fear they'll be doubted, or even chastised.

Smollet did a really terrible disservice to progress in this country if he made this up. Disgusting.
RE: Very plausible,  
fivehead : 2/17/2019 9:00 am : link
In comment 14298666 GiantsUA said:
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if true, he needs a lot of help.


He needs to be thrown in jail.

This is the type of bullshit that fuels real racial attacks.
Love It!  
Percy : 2/17/2019 9:13 am : link
Now, as for the politicians who made so much of it, well, they were fools to begin with.
The chasm in the reporting od  
joeinpa : 2/17/2019 9:17 am : link
“News” in the country today, I find it increasingly difficult to discern the truth on most controversial stories.
RE: Love It!  
Ssanders9816 : 2/17/2019 9:18 am : link
In comment 14298690 Percy said:
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Now, as for the politicians who made so much of it, well, they were fools to begin with.


🙄
RE: Love It!  
arcarsenal : 2/17/2019 9:19 am : link
In comment 14298690 Percy said:
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Now, as for the politicians who made so much of it, well, they were fools to begin with.


There's nothing to love about this. Whether he made it up or it really happened, it's terrible either way.

It's incredible the way people value being right or feeling validated over things that actually matter.
Perry  
XBRONX : 2/17/2019 9:27 am : link
better a fool than the people making up lies.
People who invent phony emergencies where there are none  
Mr. Bungle : 2/17/2019 9:50 am : link
should be in jail. Looks like we may all agree on that.
Tawana and that xxx Sharpton ...omg  
Spider56 : 2/17/2019 9:55 am : link
I almost forgot about that one ... I lived in Wappingers at that time and what that crud did was criminal ... but he was and still is an untouchable ...
I was about  
Big Al : 2/17/2019 10:05 am : link
to post on the previous thread when it was deleted while I was typing. Sad to see so many people here and in general were stupid enough or agenda driven to uncritically believe that story. The story was full of holes. At the very least suspend judgement until more facts come in was what I was going to say.
The biggest problem  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2019 10:20 am : link
with something like this is now when it really happens (and there will be shit like this that happens) it will get scrutinized more and people will push the real victim for proof and they'll be questioned perhaps unfairly.

the damage done by this and acts like it, regardless of the particulars, is far-reaching.

everything will be a hoax now, until it's not.

this guy should be prosecuted - in a massive way - if they do in fact prove it was a hoax like many people suspected from the beginning and I'm pretty sure the attacks on people who suspected it was a hoax won't be apologized for or retracted.
RE: The biggest problem  
Big Al : 2/17/2019 10:23 am : link
In comment 14298738 pjcas18 said:
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with something like this is now when it really happens (and there will be shit like this that happens) it will get scrutinized more and people will push the real victim for proof and they'll be questioned perhaps unfairly.

the damage done by this and acts like it, regardless of the particulars, is far-reaching.

everything will be a hoax now, until it's not.

this guy should be prosecuted - in a massive way - if they do in fact prove it was a hoax like many people suspected from the beginning and I'm pretty sure the attacks on people who suspected it was a hoax won't be apologized for or retracted.
I am really anxious to see if there are on consequences to him and the extent of the consequences.
We weren't divided enough to begin with as a country....  
Britt in VA : 2/17/2019 10:23 am : link
so we need to make stuff up to drive the divide further.
RE: RE: Really sad story to think  
section125 : 2/17/2019 10:23 am : link
In comment 14298681 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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In comment 14298651 section125 said:


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somebody would shoot his career in the foot by staging a fake racist/homophobic attack. When I saw the picture of the two guys that supposedly attacked him, the bullshit meter went full tilt. Those two guys would have ripped him apart, big dudes. The rope around the neck thing was double weird. I think anyone in that position would have pulled that off immediately, not let it linger there.

Just WTF was he thinking this would accomplish.

The two guys were extras on the show he is on.


Not only extras, but he worked out with those guys at the gym....
Lets see .  
Crispino : 2/17/2019 10:27 am : link
2:00 am, in Chicago. It's -20 degrees out. I think I'll go to Subway for a sandwich. I get my sandwich, and I'll be attacked by two racist guys who recognize me, and who also just happen to be out walking around. Carrying rope. And bleach. And they'll beat me for awhile, yell racist stuff, you know like "This is MAGA country!!",

Then, I'll go back to my place, with the little piece of rope still around my neck, and still holding my Subway sandwich. Then I'll report it to the cops, who probably will believe me and won't do any further investigation. Yeah. It'll work.
It didn't smell right from the start  
Beer Man : 2/17/2019 10:32 am : link
If it is true that this was all fabricated, then he and his accomplices need to spend a little time behind bars for recklessly endangering others. We live in a time where real events like this enrage people to the point that they riot, loot, destroy property, and in some cases harm others.

This could have ended very badly because someone was looking for attention, and doing so by trying to demonize others who's political view differ from their's.
Crispino  
joeinpa : 2/17/2019 10:42 am : link
Well , when you put it that way!

But today if you are in the public eye you are forced to tread lightly on certain positions, just the way it is.
RE: Lets see .  
Beer Man : 2/17/2019 10:46 am : link
In comment 14298749 Crispino said:
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2:00 am, in Chicago. It's -20 degrees out. I think I'll go to Subway for a sandwich. I get my sandwich, and I'll be attacked by two racist guys who recognize me, and who also just happen to be out walking around. Carrying rope. And bleach. And they'll beat me for awhile, yell racist stuff, you know like "This is MAGA country!!",

Then, I'll go back to my place, with the little piece of rope still around my neck, and still holding my Subway sandwich. Then I'll report it to the cops, who probably will believe me and won't do any further investigation. Yeah. It'll work.
I bet he had sprouts on that sandwich ;>
The message here is not to future victims of hate crimes. The  
wgenesis123 : 2/17/2019 12:32 pm : link
message is to those who would come forward with a bogus story. Your story will be checked out so stick to the truth.
Not only was it essentially a false racial accusation...  
EricJ : 2/17/2019 1:06 pm : link
but of course the media was so quick to jump on it because of the MAGA aspect of it. No fact checking at all. I saw some of the sympathetic and leading interviews that were conducted with him.

He should absolutely be charged with a crime. No doubt he will get off without a severe penalty.

Meanwhile, I am just laughing at how anyone could have believed his story. He claimed to have gotten his ass kicked but he never dropped his Subway sandwich to defend himself.

Then, he keeps the noose around his neck the way Flav wears a clock. Who would not take that noose off the moment the attackers fled? That is probably the first thing anyone would do. Totally ridiculous...

Finally.. HE is obviously the racist.
Any report  
Big Al : 2/17/2019 1:32 pm : link
on which Subway sandwich he bought? I prefer Spicy Italian but he strikes me as a tuna man (worth dying for).
Story made no sense  
GiantGrit : 2/17/2019 1:43 pm : link
Since when does Subway have 24 hour locations?
RE: Any report  
GiantGrit : 2/17/2019 1:44 pm : link
In comment 14298819 Big Al said:
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on which Subway sandwich he bought? I prefer Spicy Italian but he strikes me as a tuna man (worth dying for).


Spicy Italian good call, big fan of the cheesesteak with creamy sriracha sauce. My bathroom isn't though.
RE: Story made no sense  
Big Al : 2/17/2019 1:48 pm : link
In comment 14298825 GiantGrit said:
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Since when does Subway have 24 hour locations?
They do. Two within a couple of miles of me. That one in Chicago is 24 hours.
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