Smollett is (obviously) a guy who goes to absurd extremes to get attention, but he used a strawman that was not of his making.
Smollett is not alone in knowing that the media has a narrative for 2019 America. He played right into their hands and they ran with it without hesitation. Identity politics is the charter and trade of mainstream media and they took this absurd narrative hook, line and sinker until it became impossible to defend. Now, the same mouthpieces are pretending to 'search for answers' while scattering like roaches.
The lesson from all of this is that America in 2019 is not perfect, but certainly isn't being reported accurately. There's a template the media uses enemies and there need to be enemies (real or imagined). The identity politics template uses terms like; 'racist', 'homophobe', 'misogynist' etc. When you throw these labels on someone, you don't need to have a dialog or a conversation with them. It's a license to spit vitriol and make absurd unfounded assertions. This used to be the stuff or opinion journalism, now it's foisted as 'real' news. Journalists are building an insulated brick wall that's playing to ignorance and hate; it plays out every day in what used to be know as news and is eroding the last shreds of civility.
IMHO, Smollett played his identity politics card and is a victim of his ignorance and an agenda-driven media.
Smollett is (obviously) a guy who goes to absurd extremes to get attention, but he used a strawman that was not of his making.
Smollett is not alone in knowing that the media has a narrative for 2019 America. He played right into their hands and they ran with it without hesitation. Identity politics is the charter and trade of mainstream media and they took this absurd narrative hook, line and sinker until it became impossible to defend. Now, the same mouthpieces are pretending to 'search for answers' while scattering like roaches.
The lesson from all of this is that America in 2019 is not perfect, but certainly isn't being reported accurately. There's a template the media uses enemies and there need to be enemies (real or imagined). The identity politics template uses terms like; 'racist', 'homophobe', 'misogynist' etc. When you throw these labels on someone, you don't need to have a dialog or a conversation with them. It's a license to spit vitriol and make absurd unfounded assertions. This used to be the stuff or opinion journalism, now it's foisted as 'real' news. Journalists are building an insulated brick wall that's playing to ignorance and hate; it plays out every day in what used to be know as news and is eroding the last shreds of civility.
IMHO, Smollett played his identity politics card and is a victim of his ignorance and an agenda-driven media.
this 100%
this genius paid the Nigerian brothers with a personal check Â
presidential tweets there are for the white nationalist U.S. coast guard guy vs. Smollett.
(I'm sure they'll be coming momentarily)
*rolls eyes*
Here is where confirmation bias and identity politics play a huge part in the division of this country.
Why can't both be wrong? This is not a binary choice where you can only pick one.
How about the fact MOST of the country supports neither of these two assholes and feels both should be beholden to what our legal system dictates for their transgressions. These two shouldn't have a "side".
One of them obviously could have been far more wrong and grievously so, but fortunately didn't carry out plans he fantasized about.
The other preyed on the emotions of the whole country and arguably did more tangible damage than the other.
If you're looking for politicians to tweet for your validation you are misguided.
presidential tweets there are for the white nationalist U.S. coast guard guy vs. Smollett.
(I'm sure they'll be coming momentarily)
*rolls eyes*
Here is where confirmation bias and identity politics play a huge part in the division of this country.
Why can't both be wrong? This is not a binary choice where you can only pick one.
How about the fact MOST of the country supports neither of these two assholes and feels both should be beholden to what our legal system dictates for their transgressions. These two shouldn't have a "side".
One of them obviously could have been far more wrong and grievously so, but fortunately didn't carry out plans he fantasized about.
The other preyed on the emotions of the whole country and arguably did more tangible damage than the other.
If you're looking for politicians to tweet for your validation you are misguided.
Trump condemned Smollett. Where's the tweet condemning Hasson??
That is my point. Can't believe that needed clarifying.
I am not going to get in a position where I need to defend the President, but he probably tweeted condemning Smollett because like many others he previously commented on how terrible the "attack" was on Smollett.
From politico:
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President Donald Trump on Thursday called the attack on “Empire” star Jussie Smollett “horrible,” condemning the assault by individuals who the actor alleged referenced the president’s campaign slogan as they attacked him.....
“It doesn’t get worse, as far as I’m concerned,” Trump said of the attack during an Oval Office exchange with the White House press pool on Thursday."...
So whether he comments on Hasson or not is irrelevant to Smollett. There are a lot of horrible acts committed or planned to be committed by horrible people I don't need commentary on them all.
presidential tweets there are for the white nationalist U.S. coast guard guy vs. Smollett.
(I'm sure they'll be coming momentarily)
*rolls eyes*
Here is where confirmation bias and identity politics play a huge part in the division of this country.
Why can't both be wrong? This is not a binary choice where you can only pick one.
How about the fact MOST of the country supports neither of these two assholes and feels both should be beholden to what our legal system dictates for their transgressions. These two shouldn't have a "side".
One of them obviously could have been far more wrong and grievously so, but fortunately didn't carry out plans he fantasized about.
The other preyed on the emotions of the whole country and arguably did more tangible damage than the other.
If you're looking for politicians to tweet for your validation you are misguided.
think for yourself.
"The other preyed on the emotions of the whole country and arguably did more tangible damage than the other."
Isn't this what POTUS does every single day?
I agree with your "think for yourself" argument but unfortunately this is not the case because most view political parties more fanatically than their sports teams and that is exactly what got us into this current mess.
As for my earlier post, I was not speaking generally and referring to our current accelerant in chief but you probably already figured that out.
on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Trump condemned Smollett. Where's the tweet condemning Hasson??
That is my point. Can't believe that needed clarifying.
He also said, "hat I can tell you is horrible, I’ve seen it. Last night. It’s horrible. Doesn’t get worse.” when word first broke that he'd been attacked. Why did you leave that out of your post?
on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
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As for my earlier post, I was not speaking generally and referring to our current accelerant in chief but you probably already figured that out.
Wake up sheeple. So does Adam "the liar" Schiff(only person to "see" collusion for two years and has yet to show proof), the Whiner Senate Minority Leader and babbling Speaker - all of whom use inflammatory language everyday. Even freakin Bernie Sanders has join the mudslinging...
They all do it, they all suck and if you don't see it you are blind.
Trump condemned Smollett. Where's the tweet condemning Hasson??
That is my point. Can't believe that needed clarifying.
He also said, "hat I can tell you is horrible, I’ve seen it. Last night. It’s horrible. Doesn’t get worse.” when word first broke that he'd been attacked. Why did you leave that out of your post?
Have not seen that tweet about specifically condemning Hasson yet. Let me know.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Should be interesting to see how many Â
As for my earlier post, I was not speaking generally and referring to our current accelerant in chief but you probably already figured that out.
Wake up sheeple. So does Adam "the liar" Schiff(only person to "see" collusion for two years and has yet to show proof), the Whiner Senate Minority Leader and babbling Speaker - all of whom use inflammatory language everyday. Even freakin Bernie Sanders has join the mudslinging...
They all do it, they all suck and if you don't see it you are blind.
on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
this thread is clearly off track, and likely headed for deletion, but.....
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"The riots in Charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division," Trump posted on Twitter Saturday morning. "We must come together as a nation. I condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. Peace to ALL Americans!"
on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
You don't get to make the rules about how it works. Do you think you're Trump?
Comparing 45's inflammatory language to the Speaker, Schiff, Bernie, & Schumer. Just LOL worthy. Come on.
They are all bad. Difference is you have been sucked in. 45 is terrible, no doubt. Take his doggone phone away, close the account, don't want to hear from him anymore. The others are just as bad, but because your bias is that way you overlook it. Have you heard of the big lie? Say something long enough and loud enough and it becomes the truth...Adam Schiff, for almost two years that ass has said he has seen evidence, funny he is the only one or haven't you noticed?
on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
Oh, and btw, from USA Today:
After two days of public pressure to renounce white supremacists at the root of street violence in Charlottesville, Va., President Trump declared Monday that "racism is evil" and announced that the Justice Department will open a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that left one woman dead.
"To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence: You will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered," Trump said after returning to the White House to meet with top federal law enforcement officials.
Denouncing racism, Trump said in a prepared speech that "those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans." Link - ( New Window )
on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
Oh, and btw, from USA Today:
After two days of public pressure to renounce white supremacists at the root of street violence in Charlottesville, Va., President Trump declared Monday that "racism is evil" and announced that the Justice Department will open a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that left one woman dead.
"To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence: You will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered," Trump said after returning to the White House to meet with top federal law enforcement officials.
Denouncing racism, Trump said in a prepared speech that "those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans." Link - ( New Window )
lol exactly, after being pressured, he read from a prepared speech. "very fine people on both sides" was his first reaction.
on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
And it's obvious to all that what Smollett did was wrong to make a false report of a hate crime, but if you're not just as concerned about a radicalized domestic terrorist who amasses an arsenal & plans to kill people in government & the media, then I don't know what to tell you.
on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
Oh, and btw, from USA Today:
After two days of public pressure to renounce white supremacists at the root of street violence in Charlottesville, Va., President Trump declared Monday that "racism is evil" and announced that the Justice Department will open a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that left one woman dead.
"To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence: You will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered," Trump said after returning to the White House to meet with top federal law enforcement officials.
Denouncing racism, Trump said in a prepared speech that "those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans." Link - ( New Window )
lol exactly, after being pressured, he read from a prepared speech. "very fine people on both sides" was his first reaction.
Doesn't matter when or why he said it. Your statement isn't that he never condemned them is false. Period
on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
Oh, and btw, from USA Today:
After two days of public pressure to renounce white supremacists at the root of street violence in Charlottesville, Va., President Trump declared Monday that "racism is evil" and announced that the Justice Department will open a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that left one woman dead.
"To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence: You will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered," Trump said after returning to the White House to meet with top federal law enforcement officials.
Denouncing racism, Trump said in a prepared speech that "those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans." Link - ( New Window )
lol exactly, after being pressured, he read from a prepared speech. "very fine people on both sides" was his first reaction.
Again, you seem to be looking for the President to comment on something for your own validation.
why?
he should not be your moral compass, I don't care who the president is.
and you should not need any validation or expectation from him to comment to make you feel like things are "even".
His first comment on Smollett was one of condemnation.
which is probably why he felt compelled to comment on the hoax, but who knows (or cares).
There are certain atrocities that are horrific enough (like Hasson) that reasonable people don't need anyone to comment.
on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
Oh, and btw, from USA Today:
After two days of public pressure to renounce white supremacists at the root of street violence in Charlottesville, Va., President Trump declared Monday that "racism is evil" and announced that the Justice Department will open a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that left one woman dead.
"To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence: You will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered," Trump said after returning to the White House to meet with top federal law enforcement officials.
Denouncing racism, Trump said in a prepared speech that "those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans." Link - ( New Window )
lol exactly, after being pressured, he read from a prepared speech. "very fine people on both sides" was his first reaction.
you think he was referring to antifa and the white nationalists as the both sides? Can you think of any other both sides?
were large and diverse. The left had scumbags like Antifa plus a lot of decent people, the right had scumbags like the White Supremacists plus a lot of decent people. What Trump said wasn't wrong, it was just insensitive and dumb, because he should know that when he says anything it'll be taken out of context and spun. The man is a victim of many self-inflicted wounds. As to the big picture, people in general need to keeps their mouths shut until the facts come out on any story. Obama was often just as bad as
Trump as far as publicly rushing to judgement.
There are certain atrocities that are horrific enough (like Hasson) that reasonable people don't need anyone to comment.
Easy on the hyperbole, pj :) Atrocities are defined as acts, not thoughts. Collecting weapons is not an atrocity, using them certainly is.
I was speaking generally, not specifically, but mentioned Hasson to show why the hit list put together by Hasson needs no commentary.
The fake bombs sent to liberal media was met with strong condemnation (though perhaps not ironically, the media only focused on the "but..." after the condemnation).
it goes back to where I started on this thread, people need to stop getting their information from echo chambers.
Confirmation bias is real, and it's human nature, but it doesn't help heal division.
Some people don't want to heal division they want to seize on it and many people are useful idiots in that endeavor.
There are certain atrocities that are horrific enough (like Hasson) that reasonable people don't need anyone to comment.
Easy on the hyperbole, pj :) Atrocities are defined as acts, not thoughts. Collecting weapons is not an atrocity, using them certainly is.
I was speaking generally, not specifically, but mentioned Hasson to show why the hit list put together by Hasson needs no commentary.
The fake bombs sent to liberal media was met with strong condemnation (though perhaps not ironically, the media only focused on the "but..." after the condemnation).
it goes back to where I started on this thread, people need to stop getting their information from echo chambers.
Confirmation bias is real, and it's human nature, but it doesn't help heal division.
Some people don't want to heal division they want to seize on it and many people are useful idiots in that endeavor.
Maybe non-functioning would be a better term than fake Link - ( New Window )
Yes, my apologies, the bombs were real explosive materials, but from what I read according to explosive experts, not capable of detonating because they were poorly made.
Trump? Whatever you think of me, and there's plenty of negatives to jump on so have fun, there's oodles of evidence that the President's guiding principle is "how does this help me or how can I twist it to my benefit?" Unlike most inhabitants of the office, it's pretty obvious he has no core beliefs at all. It's all kabuki theater for his own benefit.
I think Trump has been truer to his core beliefs Â
than anyone since Jimmy Carter. Everyone since Carter, including Reagan, were basically establishment politicians into expediency. If Obama was true, he would have stuck with the single payer healthcare he believed in. Instead he compromised with what he had the votes for. Really, what has Trump proposed that you think was meant to ingratiate himself to the majority of Americans? You can't say that he plays to his minority base and that at the same time he puts his finger to the wind and does what's better for him politically.
Smollett is not alone in knowing that the media has a narrative for 2019 America. He played right into their hands and they ran with it without hesitation. Identity politics is the charter and trade of mainstream media and they took this absurd narrative hook, line and sinker until it became impossible to defend. Now, the same mouthpieces are pretending to 'search for answers' while scattering like roaches.
The lesson from all of this is that America in 2019 is not perfect, but certainly isn't being reported accurately. There's a template the media uses enemies and there need to be enemies (real or imagined). The identity politics template uses terms like; 'racist', 'homophobe', 'misogynist' etc. When you throw these labels on someone, you don't need to have a dialog or a conversation with them. It's a license to spit vitriol and make absurd unfounded assertions. This used to be the stuff or opinion journalism, now it's foisted as 'real' news. Journalists are building an insulated brick wall that's playing to ignorance and hate; it plays out every day in what used to be know as news and is eroding the last shreds of civility.
IMHO, Smollett played his identity politics card and is a victim of his ignorance and an agenda-driven media.
Smollett is not alone in knowing that the media has a narrative for 2019 America. He played right into their hands and they ran with it without hesitation. Identity politics is the charter and trade of mainstream media and they took this absurd narrative hook, line and sinker until it became impossible to defend. Now, the same mouthpieces are pretending to 'search for answers' while scattering like roaches.
The lesson from all of this is that America in 2019 is not perfect, but certainly isn't being reported accurately. There's a template the media uses enemies and there need to be enemies (real or imagined). The identity politics template uses terms like; 'racist', 'homophobe', 'misogynist' etc. When you throw these labels on someone, you don't need to have a dialog or a conversation with them. It's a license to spit vitriol and make absurd unfounded assertions. This used to be the stuff or opinion journalism, now it's foisted as 'real' news. Journalists are building an insulated brick wall that's playing to ignorance and hate; it plays out every day in what used to be know as news and is eroding the last shreds of civility.
IMHO, Smollett played his identity politics card and is a victim of his ignorance and an agenda-driven media.
this 100%
Think about that.
Wow. There's dumb and there's DUMB.
Think about that.
Yep...not a tweet to be seen on this but there sure is one on the subject of this thread.
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but Christopher Paul Hasson isn't.
Think about that.
Yep...not a tweet to be seen on this but there sure is one on the subject of this thread.
It's trending on my twitter feed and in the headline banner of just about every news site.
not sure what you mean, "not a tweet to be seen" unless you only follow movie stars and athletes on twitter.
(I'm sure they'll be coming momentarily)
*rolls eyes*
(I'm sure they'll be coming momentarily)
*rolls eyes*
??????
(I'm sure they'll be coming momentarily)
*rolls eyes*
Why would there be any tweets/comments supporting the white nationalist?
I fully expect to see tweets from most candidates condoning his intended actions though.
Lock him up and throw away the key, at least after reading the details of the indictment against him (the white supremacist coast guard officer)
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presidential tweets there are for the white nationalist U.S. coast guard guy vs. Smollett.
(I'm sure they'll be coming momentarily)
*rolls eyes*
Why would there be any tweets/comments supporting the white nationalist?
I fully expect to see tweets from most candidates condoning his intended actions though.
Did I say condoning? How about condemning it/him.
(I'm sure they'll be coming momentarily)
*rolls eyes*
Here is where confirmation bias and identity politics play a huge part in the division of this country.
Why can't both be wrong? This is not a binary choice where you can only pick one.
How about the fact MOST of the country supports neither of these two assholes and feels both should be beholden to what our legal system dictates for their transgressions. These two shouldn't have a "side".
One of them obviously could have been far more wrong and grievously so, but fortunately didn't carry out plans he fantasized about.
The other preyed on the emotions of the whole country and arguably did more tangible damage than the other.
If you're looking for politicians to tweet for your validation you are misguided.
think for yourself.
Quote:
presidential tweets there are for the white nationalist U.S. coast guard guy vs. Smollett.
(I'm sure they'll be coming momentarily)
*rolls eyes*
Here is where confirmation bias and identity politics play a huge part in the division of this country.
Why can't both be wrong? This is not a binary choice where you can only pick one.
How about the fact MOST of the country supports neither of these two assholes and feels both should be beholden to what our legal system dictates for their transgressions. These two shouldn't have a "side".
One of them obviously could have been far more wrong and grievously so, but fortunately didn't carry out plans he fantasized about.
The other preyed on the emotions of the whole country and arguably did more tangible damage than the other.
If you're looking for politicians to tweet for your validation you are misguided.
think for yourself.
Voice or reason says what? Good post.
That is my point. Can't believe that needed clarifying.
That is my point. Can't believe that needed clarifying.
I am not going to get in a position where I need to defend the President, but he probably tweeted condemning Smollett because like many others he previously commented on how terrible the "attack" was on Smollett.
From politico:
“It doesn’t get worse, as far as I’m concerned,” Trump said of the attack during an Oval Office exchange with the White House press pool on Thursday."...
So whether he comments on Hasson or not is irrelevant to Smollett. There are a lot of horrible acts committed or planned to be committed by horrible people I don't need commentary on them all.
Quote:
presidential tweets there are for the white nationalist U.S. coast guard guy vs. Smollett.
(I'm sure they'll be coming momentarily)
*rolls eyes*
Here is where confirmation bias and identity politics play a huge part in the division of this country.
Why can't both be wrong? This is not a binary choice where you can only pick one.
How about the fact MOST of the country supports neither of these two assholes and feels both should be beholden to what our legal system dictates for their transgressions. These two shouldn't have a "side".
One of them obviously could have been far more wrong and grievously so, but fortunately didn't carry out plans he fantasized about.
The other preyed on the emotions of the whole country and arguably did more tangible damage than the other.
If you're looking for politicians to tweet for your validation you are misguided.
think for yourself.
"The other preyed on the emotions of the whole country and arguably did more tangible damage than the other."
Isn't this what POTUS does every single day?
I agree with your "think for yourself" argument but unfortunately this is not the case because most view political parties more fanatically than their sports teams and that is exactly what got us into this current mess.
As for my earlier post, I was not speaking generally and referring to our current accelerant in chief but you probably already figured that out.
That is my point. Can't believe that needed clarifying.
He also said, "hat I can tell you is horrible, I’ve seen it. Last night. It’s horrible. Doesn’t get worse.” when word first broke that he'd been attacked. Why did you leave that out of your post?
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
Isn't this what POTUS does every single day?
As for my earlier post, I was not speaking generally and referring to our current accelerant in chief but you probably already figured that out.
Wake up sheeple. So does Adam "the liar" Schiff(only person to "see" collusion for two years and has yet to show proof), the Whiner Senate Minority Leader and babbling Speaker - all of whom use inflammatory language everyday. Even freakin Bernie Sanders has join the mudslinging...
They all do it, they all suck and if you don't see it you are blind.
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Trump condemned Smollett. Where's the tweet condemning Hasson??
That is my point. Can't believe that needed clarifying.
He also said, "hat I can tell you is horrible, I’ve seen it. Last night. It’s horrible. Doesn’t get worse.” when word first broke that he'd been attacked. Why did you leave that out of your post?
Have not seen that tweet about specifically condemning Hasson yet. Let me know.
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Isn't this what POTUS does every single day?
As for my earlier post, I was not speaking generally and referring to our current accelerant in chief but you probably already figured that out.
Wake up sheeple. So does Adam "the liar" Schiff(only person to "see" collusion for two years and has yet to show proof), the Whiner Senate Minority Leader and babbling Speaker - all of whom use inflammatory language everyday. Even freakin Bernie Sanders has join the mudslinging...
They all do it, they all suck and if you don't see it you are blind.
haha....sorry I brought it up
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on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
this thread is clearly off track, and likely headed for deletion, but.....
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on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
You don't get to make the rules about how it works. Do you think you're Trump?
They are all bad. Difference is you have been sucked in. 45 is terrible, no doubt. Take his doggone phone away, close the account, don't want to hear from him anymore. The others are just as bad, but because your bias is that way you overlook it. Have you heard of the big lie? Say something long enough and loud enough and it becomes the truth...Adam Schiff, for almost two years that ass has said he has seen evidence, funny he is the only one or haven't you noticed?
We have already exceeded what is allowable
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on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
Oh, and btw, from USA Today:
After two days of public pressure to renounce white supremacists at the root of street violence in Charlottesville, Va., President Trump declared Monday that "racism is evil" and announced that the Justice Department will open a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that left one woman dead.
"To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence: You will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered," Trump said after returning to the White House to meet with top federal law enforcement officials.
Denouncing racism, Trump said in a prepared speech that "those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans."
Link - ( New Window )
eh. It's in the archive.
https://archive.fo/cqHOO
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In comment 14302344 Bill in UT said:
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on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
Oh, and btw, from USA Today:
After two days of public pressure to renounce white supremacists at the root of street violence in Charlottesville, Va., President Trump declared Monday that "racism is evil" and announced that the Justice Department will open a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that left one woman dead.
"To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence: You will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered," Trump said after returning to the White House to meet with top federal law enforcement officials.
Denouncing racism, Trump said in a prepared speech that "those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans." Link - ( New Window )
lol exactly, after being pressured, he read from a prepared speech. "very fine people on both sides" was his first reaction.
And it's obvious to all that what Smollett did was wrong to make a false report of a hate crime, but if you're not just as concerned about a radicalized domestic terrorist who amasses an arsenal & plans to kill people in government & the media, then I don't know what to tell you.
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on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
Oh, and btw, from USA Today:
After two days of public pressure to renounce white supremacists at the root of street violence in Charlottesville, Va., President Trump declared Monday that "racism is evil" and announced that the Justice Department will open a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that left one woman dead.
"To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence: You will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered," Trump said after returning to the White House to meet with top federal law enforcement officials.
Denouncing racism, Trump said in a prepared speech that "those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans." Link - ( New Window )
lol exactly, after being pressured, he read from a prepared speech. "very fine people on both sides" was his first reaction.
Doesn't matter when or why he said it. Your statement isn't that he never condemned them is false. Period
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In comment 14302373 Ryan in Albany said:
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In comment 14302344 Bill in UT said:
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on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
Oh, and btw, from USA Today:
After two days of public pressure to renounce white supremacists at the root of street violence in Charlottesville, Va., President Trump declared Monday that "racism is evil" and announced that the Justice Department will open a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that left one woman dead.
"To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence: You will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered," Trump said after returning to the White House to meet with top federal law enforcement officials.
Denouncing racism, Trump said in a prepared speech that "those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans." Link - ( New Window )
lol exactly, after being pressured, he read from a prepared speech. "very fine people on both sides" was his first reaction.
Again, you seem to be looking for the President to comment on something for your own validation.
why?
he should not be your moral compass, I don't care who the president is.
and you should not need any validation or expectation from him to comment to make you feel like things are "even".
His first comment on Smollett was one of condemnation.
which is probably why he felt compelled to comment on the hoax, but who knows (or cares).
There are certain atrocities that are horrific enough (like Hasson) that reasonable people don't need anyone to comment.
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In comment 14302373 Ryan in Albany said:
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In comment 14302344 Bill in UT said:
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on behalf of all conservatives, including the President, I hereby condemn the Hasson's stated intentions as well as his thought processes. I am certain that if any of his plans had been carried out he would be leading the news over Smollett
Sorry, doesn't work that way.
He never condemned the white supremacists who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville either.
Oh, and btw, from USA Today:
After two days of public pressure to renounce white supremacists at the root of street violence in Charlottesville, Va., President Trump declared Monday that "racism is evil" and announced that the Justice Department will open a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that left one woman dead.
"To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence: You will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered," Trump said after returning to the White House to meet with top federal law enforcement officials.
Denouncing racism, Trump said in a prepared speech that "those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans." Link - ( New Window )
lol exactly, after being pressured, he read from a prepared speech. "very fine people on both sides" was his first reaction.
you think he was referring to antifa and the white nationalists as the both sides? Can you think of any other both sides?
Trump as far as publicly rushing to judgement.
There are certain atrocities that are horrific enough (like Hasson) that reasonable people don't need anyone to comment.
Easy on the hyperbole, pj :) Atrocities are defined as acts, not thoughts. Collecting weapons is not an atrocity, using them certainly is.
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There are certain atrocities that are horrific enough (like Hasson) that reasonable people don't need anyone to comment.
Easy on the hyperbole, pj :) Atrocities are defined as acts, not thoughts. Collecting weapons is not an atrocity, using them certainly is.
I was speaking generally, not specifically, but mentioned Hasson to show why the hit list put together by Hasson needs no commentary.
The fake bombs sent to liberal media was met with strong condemnation (though perhaps not ironically, the media only focused on the "but..." after the condemnation).
it goes back to where I started on this thread, people need to stop getting their information from echo chambers.
Confirmation bias is real, and it's human nature, but it doesn't help heal division.
Some people don't want to heal division they want to seize on it and many people are useful idiots in that endeavor.
Maybe non-functioning would be a better term than fake
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There are certain atrocities that are horrific enough (like Hasson) that reasonable people don't need anyone to comment.
Easy on the hyperbole, pj :) Atrocities are defined as acts, not thoughts. Collecting weapons is not an atrocity, using them certainly is.
I was speaking generally, not specifically, but mentioned Hasson to show why the hit list put together by Hasson needs no commentary.
The fake bombs sent to liberal media was met with strong condemnation (though perhaps not ironically, the media only focused on the "but..." after the condemnation).
it goes back to where I started on this thread, people need to stop getting their information from echo chambers.
Confirmation bias is real, and it's human nature, but it doesn't help heal division.
Some people don't want to heal division they want to seize on it and many people are useful idiots in that endeavor.
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Maybe non-functioning would be a better term than fake Link - ( New Window )
Yes, my apologies, the bombs were real explosive materials, but from what I read according to explosive experts, not capable of detonating because they were poorly made.
Feel the same about you.
(With as much or little reason to)