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RE: Some rambling.  
Strip-Sack : 2/23/2019 12:24 pm : link
In comment 14304298 Big Al said:
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I think the base cares about guns and abortion. I am pro choice but the extremes on both ends of the abortion issue are scary. My guess is Trump is actually pro choice but must pretend to be anti abortion.

I don’t think most of the “base” hate ethnic groups (although probably more for Muslims than other groups). As far as gays go, most don’t care (live and let live) but get annoyed with those always shoving this in their face. I would get annoyed if I heard a constant stream of I am proud to be left handed and we get discriminated against. Trump sometimes says stupid stuff and many wish he did not.

Many in the Democratic Party are going too far left. I am just hoping that the Democratic Party nominates someone moderate who I and many others could consider voting for. Otherwise I think they are giving Trump an easy rum to a second term. We could do better.


The problem is that it’s really much more than “...sometimes says stupid stuff” but this is how he’s rationalized by most Republicans. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own annoyances and grievances but if one truly takes a hard, honest look I find it impossible to sanction what’s going on with this regime. They are consistently undermining the rule of law and demonstrating a strong affinity for authoritarianism while turning a blind eye to clearly bigoted, misogynistic and xenophobic rhetoric and actions. We are ceding our democracy in plain sight and we really need to see the gravity of this IMO.
RE: Some rambling.  
PatersonPlank : 2/23/2019 12:41 pm : link
In comment 14304298 Big Al said:
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I think the base cares about guns and abortion. I am pro choice but the extremes on both ends of the abortion issue are scary. My guess is Trump is actually pro choice but must pretend to be anti abortion.

I don’t think most of the “base” hate ethnic groups (although probably more for Muslims than other groups). As far as gays go, most don’t care (live and let live) but get annoyed with those always shoving this in their face. I would get annoyed if I heard a constant stream of I am proud to be left handed and we get discriminated against. Trump sometimes says stupid stuff and many wish he did not.

Many in the Democratic Party are going too far left. I am just hoping that the Democratic Party nominates someone moderate who I and many others could consider voting for. Otherwise I think they are giving Trump an easy rum to a second term. We could do better.


This is exactly where I am too, and most of the republicans I know. the left just brandishes all republicans with the racist/homophobe/etc brush to fire up their ever moving farther left base
RE: Also, he started his campaign  
Ryan in Albany : 2/23/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14304204 Sonic Youth said:
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Mexicans are rapists. Yeah, uh, that's racist. Let's not forget about calling for the Central Park 5 executions. Or the lawsuit about not renting to black people. Or the insinuation that the Muslim mother of a dead American soldier wasn't allowed to speak, because she's a Muslim.

Speaking of the military, gotta love President Bone Spurs shitting on an American war hero like John McCain, who, despite my dislike for his politics, gave more to this country than any of us.

Trump is a pig.


Could not have said it better myself.
RE: RE: Some rambling.  
Big Al : 2/23/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14304324 Strip-Sack said:
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In comment 14304298 Big Al said:


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I think the base cares about guns and abortion. I am pro choice but the extremes on both ends of the abortion issue are scary. My guess is Trump is actually pro choice but must pretend to be anti abortion.

I don’t think most of the “base” hate ethnic groups (although probably more for Muslims than other groups). As far as gays go, most don’t care (live and let live) but get annoyed with those always shoving this in their face. I would get annoyed if I heard a constant stream of I am proud to be left handed and we get discriminated against. Trump sometimes says stupid stuff and many wish he did not.

Many in the Democratic Party are going too far left. I am just hoping that the Democratic Party nominates someone moderate who I and many others could consider voting for. Otherwise I think they are giving Trump an easy rum to a second term. We could do better.



The problem is that it’s really much more than “...sometimes says stupid stuff” but this is how he’s rationalized by most Republicans. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own annoyances and grievances but if one truly takes a hard, honest look I find it impossible to sanction what’s going on with this regime. They are consistently undermining the rule of law and demonstrating a strong affinity for authoritarianism while turning a blind eye to clearly bigoted, misogynistic and xenophobic rhetoric and actions. We are ceding our democracy in plain sight and we really need to see the gravity of this IMO.
I have a problem with the authoritarianism of this administration to make an end run around congress when convenient and the threat to Constitutional balance between branches. But I unlike many here are consistent and also had a problem with it in the previous administration with the end run around congress on the Iran deal and the pen and phone power to do stuff congress will not approve. Either you age against this type or stuff or not. You can’t pick and choose based on whether your politics agree with the President,
It’s more than just his rhetoric, it’s his actions and policies that  
732NYG : 2/23/2019 12:49 pm : link
many take offense to as well. Turning a blind eye to facts and science and running your administration based on throwing meat to the least common denominator is a piss poor way to run a country, and it has alienated the vast majority of people who aren’t far-right in this country. Tax cuts that have overwhelmingly benefited the super rich, environmental policies that wreck the environment for the benefit of coal, oil, and other energy industries, deregulation that hurts the consumer but benefits large corporations and their ability to influence policy, these are just a few of the many, many examples of why people are up in arms. It amazes me the people that still support him while his policies take a massive shit on their own actual well-being on a literal daily basis.

If you are amongst his “base,” yet you say nothing when he demonizes the press, minorities, lgbt, women, the poor, etc., then, sorry, but you deserve to be pidgeon-holed right along with those marching with neo-nazis. Silence is picking a side, and when you are silent on these issues, you’re telling everyone that you’re okay with things.
RE: RE: RE: Some rambling.  
732NYG : 2/23/2019 12:54 pm : link
In comment 14304340 Big Al said:
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In comment 14304298 Big Al said:


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I think the base cares about guns and abortion. I am pro choice but the extremes on both ends of the abortion issue are scary. My guess is Trump is actually pro choice but must pretend to be anti abortion.

I don’t think most of the “base” hate ethnic groups (although probably more for Muslims than other groups). As far as gays go, most don’t care (live and let live) but get annoyed with those always shoving this in their face. I would get annoyed if I heard a constant stream of I am proud to be left handed and we get discriminated against. Trump sometimes says stupid stuff and many wish he did not.

Many in the Democratic Party are going too far left. I am just hoping that the Democratic Party nominates someone moderate who I and many others could consider voting for. Otherwise I think they are giving Trump an easy rum to a second term. We could do better.



The problem is that it’s really much more than “...sometimes says stupid stuff” but this is how he’s rationalized by most Republicans. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own annoyances and grievances but if one truly takes a hard, honest look I find it impossible to sanction what’s going on with this regime. They are consistently undermining the rule of law and demonstrating a strong affinity for authoritarianism while turning a blind eye to clearly bigoted, misogynistic and xenophobic rhetoric and actions. We are ceding our democracy in plain sight and we really need to see the gravity of this IMO.

I have a problem with the authoritarianism of this administration to make an end run around congress when convenient and the threat to Constitutional balance between branches. But I unlike many here are consistent and also had a problem with it in the previous administration with the end run around congress on the Iran deal and the pen and phone power to do stuff congress will not approve. Either you age against this type or stuff or not. You can’t pick and choose based on whether your politics agree with the President,


Congress passed the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act in 2015, so I’m not sure why this theme of Obama completely bypassing congress on the Iran deal keeps popping up from. Probably because one side eats fake news up like oatmeal at breakfast every morning. Now, I could bring up certain parties attempting to sell nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia without any other support from other branches of government, but why get into reality?
What about  
XBRONX : 2/23/2019 12:57 pm : link
Trumps Saudi buddies getting US Weapons to Al Qaeda?
RE: RE: RE: Some rambling.  
Strip-Sack : 2/23/2019 1:06 pm : link
In comment 14304340 Big Al said:
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In comment 14304324 Strip-Sack said:


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In comment 14304298 Big Al said:


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I think the base cares about guns and abortion. I am pro choice but the extremes on both ends of the abortion issue are scary. My guess is Trump is actually pro choice but must pretend to be anti abortion.

I don’t think most of the “base” hate ethnic groups (although probably more for Muslims than other groups). As far as gays go, most don’t care (live and let live) but get annoyed with those always shoving this in their face. I would get annoyed if I heard a constant stream of I am proud to be left handed and we get discriminated against. Trump sometimes says stupid stuff and many wish he did not.

Many in the Democratic Party are going too far left. I am just hoping that the Democratic Party nominates someone moderate who I and many others could consider voting for. Otherwise I think they are giving Trump an easy rum to a second term. We could do better.



The problem is that it’s really much more than “...sometimes says stupid stuff” but this is how he’s rationalized by most Republicans. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own annoyances and grievances but if one truly takes a hard, honest look I find it impossible to sanction what’s going on with this regime. They are consistently undermining the rule of law and demonstrating a strong affinity for authoritarianism while turning a blind eye to clearly bigoted, misogynistic and xenophobic rhetoric and actions. We are ceding our democracy in plain sight and we really need to see the gravity of this IMO.

I have a problem with the authoritarianism of this administration to make an end run around congress when convenient and the threat to Constitutional balance between branches. But I unlike many here are consistent and also had a problem with it in the previous administration with the end run around congress on the Iran deal and the pen and phone power to do stuff congress will not approve. Either you age against this type or stuff or not. You can’t pick and choose based on whether your politics agree with the President,


I would agree and think this Congress should address a presidents ability to declare a national emergency. I also never said I was OK with the previous administrations actions bypassing congress but that’s not the point here. The point is that this “end around” is merely one bullet point on a long list of things that, if they were to happen in any other regime, would result in immediate impeachment proceedings yet it only passes as a minor shrug with this administration due to the prolific deception and corruption and their very intentional “flood the zone” strategy.
RE: What about  
732NYG : 2/23/2019 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14304348 XBRONX said:
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Trumps Saudi buddies getting US Weapons to Al Qaeda?


BuT wHaT aBoUt UrAnIuM oNe?!
Jeezus  
BigBlueShock : 2/23/2019 1:12 pm : link
This thread certainly took a turn. Not surprisingly. Thanks for ruining an otherwise decent thread. You’ve all convinced yourselves you’re somehow morally superior to the other side but it’s incredibly obvious that most of you are nothing more than phsychotic lunatics with some serious issues. Get help.

Holy shit politics suck and really brings out the worst in people. Disgusting.
RE: Jeezus  
Strip-Sack : 2/23/2019 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14304353 BigBlueShock said:
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This thread certainly took a turn. Not surprisingly. Thanks for ruining an otherwise decent thread. You’ve all convinced yourselves you’re somehow morally superior to the other side but it’s incredibly obvious that most of you are nothing more than phsychotic lunatics with some serious issues. Get help.

Holy shit politics suck and really brings out the worst in people. Disgusting.


It’s actually been very civil except for a couple minor outbursts....disgusting?? Hardly...
RE: RE: RE: RE: Some rambling.  
Big Al : 2/23/2019 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14304346 732NYG said:
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I think the base cares about guns and abortion. I am pro choice but the extremes on both ends of the abortion issue are scary. My guess is Trump is actually pro choice but must pretend to be anti abortion.

I don’t think most of the “base” hate ethnic groups (although probably more for Muslims than other groups). As far as gays go, most don’t care (live and let live) but get annoyed with those always shoving this in their face. I would get annoyed if I heard a constant stream of I am proud to be left handed and we get discriminated against. Trump sometimes says stupid stuff and many wish he did not.

Many in the Democratic Party are going too far left. I am just hoping that the Democratic Party nominates someone moderate who I and many others could consider voting for. Otherwise I think they are giving Trump an easy rum to a second term. We could do better.



The problem is that it’s really much more than “...sometimes says stupid stuff” but this is how he’s rationalized by most Republicans. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own annoyances and grievances but if one truly takes a hard, honest look I find it impossible to sanction what’s going on with this regime. They are consistently undermining the rule of law and demonstrating a strong affinity for authoritarianism while turning a blind eye to clearly bigoted, misogynistic and xenophobic rhetoric and actions. We are ceding our democracy in plain sight and we really need to see the gravity of this IMO.

I have a problem with the authoritarianism of this administration to make an end run around congress when convenient and the threat to Constitutional balance between branches. But I unlike many here are consistent and also had a problem with it in the previous administration with the end run around congress on the Iran deal and the pen and phone power to do stuff congress will not approve. Either you age against this type or stuff or not. You can’t pick and choose based on whether your politics agree with the President,



Congress passed the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act in 2015, so I’m not sure why this theme of Obama completely bypassing congress on the Iran deal keeps popping up from. Probably because one side eats fake news up like oatmeal at breakfast every morning. Now, I could bring up certain parties attempting to sell nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia without any other support from other branches of government, but why get into reality?
it is not as clear as you make it out to be. That is why Trump could dump it without congressional approval. See artocle
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Some rambling.  
732NYG : 2/23/2019 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14304363 Big Al said:
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I think the base cares about guns and abortion. I am pro choice but the extremes on both ends of the abortion issue are scary. My guess is Trump is actually pro choice but must pretend to be anti abortion.

I don’t think most of the “base” hate ethnic groups (although probably more for Muslims than other groups). As far as gays go, most don’t care (live and let live) but get annoyed with those always shoving this in their face. I would get annoyed if I heard a constant stream of I am proud to be left handed and we get discriminated against. Trump sometimes says stupid stuff and many wish he did not.

Many in the Democratic Party are going too far left. I am just hoping that the Democratic Party nominates someone moderate who I and many others could consider voting for. Otherwise I think they are giving Trump an easy rum to a second term. We could do better.



The problem is that it’s really much more than “...sometimes says stupid stuff” but this is how he’s rationalized by most Republicans. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own annoyances and grievances but if one truly takes a hard, honest look I find it impossible to sanction what’s going on with this regime. They are consistently undermining the rule of law and demonstrating a strong affinity for authoritarianism while turning a blind eye to clearly bigoted, misogynistic and xenophobic rhetoric and actions. We are ceding our democracy in plain sight and we really need to see the gravity of this IMO.

I have a problem with the authoritarianism of this administration to make an end run around congress when convenient and the threat to Constitutional balance between branches. But I unlike many here are consistent and also had a problem with it in the previous administration with the end run around congress on the Iran deal and the pen and phone power to do stuff congress will not approve. Either you age against this type or stuff or not. You can’t pick and choose based on whether your politics agree with the President,



Congress passed the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act in 2015, so I’m not sure why this theme of Obama completely bypassing congress on the Iran deal keeps popping up from. Probably because one side eats fake news up like oatmeal at breakfast every morning. Now, I could bring up certain parties attempting to sell nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia without any other support from other branches of government, but why get into reality?

it is not as clear as you make it out to be. That is why Trump could dump it without congressional approval. See artocle Link - ( New Window )


Guess it was too bad the Senate didn’t have the votes needed, right? Let me say that once again for you:

THE SENATE DID NOT HAVE THE VOTES NEEDED

So what did they do instead? Invited fucking Bibi to give a bullshit speech to Congress. Give me a break.

Not to mention the fact that the deal with Iran was actually working, and that there is no border emergency and that this is just an attempt to further line the pockets of Russian oligarchs who export steel to the US.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Some rambling.  
Big Al : 2/23/2019 1:42 pm : link
In comment 14304373 732NYG said:
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I think the base cares about guns and abortion. I am pro choice but the extremes on both ends of the abortion issue are scary. My guess is Trump is actually pro choice but must pretend to be anti abortion.

I don’t think most of the “base” hate ethnic groups (although probably more for Muslims than other groups). As far as gays go, most don’t care (live and let live) but get annoyed with those always shoving this in their face. I would get annoyed if I heard a constant stream of I am proud to be left handed and we get discriminated against. Trump sometimes says stupid stuff and many wish he did not.

Many in the Democratic Party are going too far left. I am just hoping that the Democratic Party nominates someone moderate who I and many others could consider voting for. Otherwise I think they are giving Trump an easy rum to a second term. We could do better.



The problem is that it’s really much more than “...sometimes says stupid stuff” but this is how he’s rationalized by most Republicans. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own annoyances and grievances but if one truly takes a hard, honest look I find it impossible to sanction what’s going on with this regime. They are consistently undermining the rule of law and demonstrating a strong affinity for authoritarianism while turning a blind eye to clearly bigoted, misogynistic and xenophobic rhetoric and actions. We are ceding our democracy in plain sight and we really need to see the gravity of this IMO.

I have a problem with the authoritarianism of this administration to make an end run around congress when convenient and the threat to Constitutional balance between branches. But I unlike many here are consistent and also had a problem with it in the previous administration with the end run around congress on the Iran deal and the pen and phone power to do stuff congress will not approve. Either you age against this type or stuff or not. You can’t pick and choose based on whether your politics agree with the President,



Congress passed the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act in 2015, so I’m not sure why this theme of Obama completely bypassing congress on the Iran deal keeps popping up from. Probably because one side eats fake news up like oatmeal at breakfast every morning. Now, I could bring up certain parties attempting to sell nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia without any other support from other branches of government, but why get into reality?

it is not as clear as you make it out to be. That is why Trump could dump it without congressional approval. See artocle Link - ( New Window )



Guess it was too bad the Senate didn’t have the votes needed, right? Let me say that once again for you:

THE SENATE DID NOT HAVE THE VOTES NEEDED

So what did they do instead? Invited fucking Bibi to give a bullshit speech to Congress. Give me a break.

Not to mention the fact that the deal with Iran was actually working, and that there is no border emergency and that this is just an attempt to further line the pockets of Russian oligarchs who export steel to the US.
Your angry rant does not reply to the link I provided which supported my original comment about going around Congress which allowed Trump to dump the deal.
Understood why Obama  
bc4life : 2/23/2019 2:13 pm : link
wanted the Iran deal. I wouldn't have agreed to it for two reasons. (1) Iran facilitating IEDs and militias killing American servicemen. (2) Iran's refusal to stop calling for elimination of Israel.

Robert Gates - one of the most respected and reasonable cabinet members in recent history basically said - It was right to try to ake a deal but Obama wanted the deal too badly. Think that's pretty fair statement.
If he is found to have fabricated this  
montanagiant : 2/23/2019 2:15 pm : link
He should be punished to the maximum amount the law allows. It's shit like this that hurts and hinders those that may actually have been attacked due to race or sexuality
RE: RE: RE: Some rambling.  
eclipz928 : 2/23/2019 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14304340 Big Al said:
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In comment 14304324 Strip-Sack said:


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In comment 14304298 Big Al said:


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I think the base cares about guns and abortion. I am pro choice but the extremes on both ends of the abortion issue are scary. My guess is Trump is actually pro choice but must pretend to be anti abortion.

I don’t think most of the “base” hate ethnic groups (although probably more for Muslims than other groups). As far as gays go, most don’t care (live and let live) but get annoyed with those always shoving this in their face. I would get annoyed if I heard a constant stream of I am proud to be left handed and we get discriminated against. Trump sometimes says stupid stuff and many wish he did not.

Many in the Democratic Party are going too far left. I am just hoping that the Democratic Party nominates someone moderate who I and many others could consider voting for. Otherwise I think they are giving Trump an easy rum to a second term. We could do better.



The problem is that it’s really much more than “...sometimes says stupid stuff” but this is how he’s rationalized by most Republicans. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own annoyances and grievances but if one truly takes a hard, honest look I find it impossible to sanction what’s going on with this regime. They are consistently undermining the rule of law and demonstrating a strong affinity for authoritarianism while turning a blind eye to clearly bigoted, misogynistic and xenophobic rhetoric and actions. We are ceding our democracy in plain sight and we really need to see the gravity of this IMO.

I have a problem with the authoritarianism of this administration to make an end run around congress when convenient and the threat to Constitutional balance between branches. But I unlike many here are consistent and also had a problem with it in the previous administration with the end run around congress on the Iran deal and the pen and phone power to do stuff congress will not approve. Either you age against this type or stuff or not. You can’t pick and choose based on whether your politics agree with the President,

This would be a fair argument only if you ignore the fact that the previous administration was operating with a Congress that had members of the opposite party in majority control that were not considering or acting on policy proposals, foreign or domestic, in good faith.

It's reasonable to characterize the Iran Deal as an inherently political maneuver by Obama (even though it wasn't executed unilaterally but in conjunction with 5 other major nations), but it has to also be acknowledged that the maneuver was just a progression from the environment that was already in existence in Washington where Congress itself was not functioning outside of a political spectrum. The normal system was broken.

That being said, to even begin comparing Trump's "end around" of Congress to Obama's regarding the Iran issue you would have to have at least some of the same variables in place - which would include the opposite party being in the majority of the Senate (which the Democrats aren't) and an agreement on the failure of the policy from the other 5 countries involved in the deal (which none of them are).
More related to the OP  
eclipz928 : 2/23/2019 2:55 pm : link
if everything that is out there right now is true, then this guy just alienated himself from literally everyone in the country. Nobody likes a fake victim.
You can always define  
Big Al : 2/23/2019 3:07 pm : link
acting on different political beliefs as not acting in good faith. Both sides can play that game. Either you respect the Constitutional division of powers or you don’t.
RE: You can always define  
Strip-Sack : 2/23/2019 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14304466 Big Al said:
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acting on different political beliefs as not acting in good faith. Both sides can play that game. Either you respect the Constitutional division of powers or you don’t.


But if you’re using “what aboutisms” to argue a point you can’t completely ignore context either as things are very rarely apples to apples.
What I always note in political discussions  
Big Al : 2/23/2019 4:02 pm : link
is that people argue on "principles" but always find a reason to discard that principle when a new situation comes up that makes the principle inconvenient. A rationale is always found to show why the situation is different.
RE: What I always note in political discussions  
Strip-Sack : 2/23/2019 4:39 pm : link
In comment 14304507 Big Al said:
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is that people argue on "principles" but always find a reason to discard that principle when a new situation comes up that makes the principle inconvenient. A rationale is always found to show why the situation is different.


Perhaps, but I would argue that you’re conflating one specific example (no matter how similar) to rationalize the acceptance of an administration which truly has no historical comparison by any reasonable measure IMO.
RE: What I always note in political discussions  
eclipz928 : 2/24/2019 7:27 am : link
In comment 14304507 Big Al said:
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is that people argue on "principles" but always find a reason to discard that principle when a new situation comes up that makes the principle inconvenient. A rationale is always found to show why the situation is different.

Ironically, I think that's what you're doing within this comment itself about political discussions - you're minimizing the objective differences pointed out between two circumstances by describing it as a biased "rationale".

Facts and nuance are important, and THEY should be the thing that everyone should look out for most during conversations like this.
wasn't this thread  
BigBlueCane : 2/24/2019 9:33 am : link
about a hoax hate crime?
RE: RE: Really  
Sonic Youth : 2/24/2019 9:38 am : link
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Eli? Tell me the truth about a large percent of the base.



I don't know a single Republican that hates non-whites or non-straight people, and I know 100s of them. I'm sure there are some out there that do, but as in all cases it is the fringes of people that are in every base.
LOL what?

Take a visit to Reddit
I don't think anyone is going to tell another person,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/24/2019 9:53 am : link
'You know what? I really hate non white people & gays.'

That doesn't seem like something someone would vocalize. But that's just my experience walking this earth since '80.
RE: If he is found to have fabricated this  
The 12th Man : 2/24/2019 10:03 am : link
In comment 14304414 montanagiant said:
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He should be punished to the maximum amount the law allows. It's shit like this that hurts and hinders those that may actually have been attacked due to race or sexuality


This is correct. All the other crap is fluff, which party hates this or that, Trump is a racist, Dems are race bating is all crap. Pain and simple when people who make up stories to advance themselves it hurts those who are actually attacked for a specific reason. This should sicken all Americans whenpeople do this. Punish him to the full extent then have leaders from the right and left, men and women, actors, sports stars, teachers etc. speaking out how this is wrong. Then move on.
RE: Big Al  
Eli Wilson : 2/24/2019 10:08 am : link
In comment 14304313 XBRONX said:
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Totally agree. By the way Eli, is Trump a racist?


He might be, he says some really stupid things. I don't know the guy's heart so I really can't tell you.

I don't like Donald Trump, I didn't want to vote for him. I believe in voting for platforms and not personalities and I also believe in the necessity of making a choice in elections.

If you feel he is a racist, that's your opinion and fine with me.
Not opinion  
XBRONX : 2/24/2019 10:10 am : link
a fact. Daddy was a known racist and he learned from daddy. Read up on the Trumps renting practices for their buildings in NY.
RE: Not opinion  
EricJ : 2/24/2019 10:11 am : link
In comment 14304905 XBRONX said:
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a fact. Daddy was a known racist and he learned from daddy. Read up on the Trumps renting practices for their buildings in NY.


Back to the purpose of the thread...
Jussie is a race baiting racist.
RE: RE: RE: Really  
Eli Wilson : 2/24/2019 10:12 am : link
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Eli? Tell me the truth about a large percent of the base.



I don't know a single Republican that hates non-whites or non-straight people, and I know 100s of them. I'm sure there are some out there that do, but as in all cases it is the fringes of people that are in every base.

LOL what?

Take a visit to Reddit


I meant people I know, not the cesspool of social media.
RE: RE: Not opinion  
Sonic Youth : 2/24/2019 10:25 am : link
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a fact. Daddy was a known racist and he learned from daddy. Read up on the Trumps renting practices for their buildings in NY.



Back to the purpose of the thread...
Jussie is a race baiting racist.
Is this some sort of counterpoint?

Jussie Smollet is a dumbass and a POS. Who is even denying that? How is this relevant to Trump?

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Eli? Tell me the truth about a large percent of the base.



I don't know a single Republican that hates non-whites or non-straight people, and I know 100s of them. I'm sure there are some out there that do, but as in all cases it is the fringes of people that are in every base.

LOL what?

Take a visit to Reddit



I meant people I know, not the cesspool of social media.


Cool. The people you know are a very small % and portion of those out there. If you don't "know a single Republican that hates non-straight or non-white people" personally, nobody really gives a shit, being that they are actual neo nazi's running for offie as Republicans in Illinois (this is not hyperbole).
Someone let me know when Trump denounces the Coastie with  
732NYG : 2/24/2019 10:31 am : link
the hot list and cache of weapons please.
Hit list*  
732NYG : 2/24/2019 10:33 am : link
.
RE: RE: RE: Not opinion  
EricJ : 2/24/2019 11:05 am : link
In comment 14304914 Sonic Youth said:
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How is this relevant to Trump?



It isn't relevant to Trump. If you can remotely follow or comprehend a sentence, I said that I was getting this back on topic which was all about Jussie... not Trump.

I mean... the thread is "Empire star may have orchestrated an attack on himself". None of the reports indicated that Trump was there.

So, why the fuck are you asking me what this has to do with Trump?
Lots of Trump Derangement Syndrome on this thread  
Bockman : 2/24/2019 11:13 am : link
Ultra liberal actor stages hoax to make conservatives look bad. He simultaneously hurts his own causes and emboldens lunatics on the opposite side. In the end, the loonies on both sides continue to shout at each and past each other.

Bringing Trump into it is completely besides the point and irrelevant.

"But but but he tweeted about it hur de hur de hur!"

Who gives a shit? He's been doing this for 2+ years now.

My god people give it a fucking rest.
I think FilmGiant  
Big Al : 2/24/2019 11:18 am : link
has been reincarnated on this thread with a complete reverse of political philosophy and new use of foul lanquage.
RE: Someone let me know when Trump denounces the Coastie with  
HomerJones45 : 2/24/2019 11:31 am : link
In comment 14304920 732NYG said:
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the hot list and cache of weapons please.
You asked.
Response to Coast Guardsman arrest - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Someone let me know when Trump denounces the Coastie with  
732NYG : 2/24/2019 11:34 am : link
In comment 14304967 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 14304920 732NYG said:


Quote:


the hot list and cache of weapons please.

You asked. Response to Coast Guardsman arrest - ( New Window )


He thinks it’s a shame that it happened? Or that he got caught? Glad that’s over with, he can go back to attacking the media now.
RE: Lots of Trump Derangement Syndrome on this thread  
Big Al : 2/24/2019 11:40 am : link
In comment 14304955 Bockman said:
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Ultra liberal actor stages hoax to make conservatives look bad. He simultaneously hurts his own causes and emboldens lunatics on the opposite side. In the end, the loonies on both sides continue to shout at each and past each other.

Bringing Trump into it is completely besides the point and irrelevant.

"But but but he tweeted about it hur de hur de hur!"

Who gives a shit? He's been doing this for 2+ years now.

My god people give it a fucking rest.
Anothet example of Trump Derangement Syndrome just popped up.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Not opinion  
Sonic Youth : 2/24/2019 11:50 am : link
In comment 14304949 EricJ said:
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In comment 14304914 Sonic Youth said:


Quote:


How is this relevant to Trump?





It isn't relevant to Trump. If you can remotely follow or comprehend a sentence, I said that I was getting this back on topic which was all about Jussie... not Trump.

I mean... the thread is "Empire star may have orchestrated an attack on himself". None of the reports indicated that Trump was there.

So, why the fuck are you asking me what this has to do with Trump?
Lol. I'm not the one who quoted a post and then made a totally irrelevant comment.

Anyway, anyone who thinks that Trump is not a big deal and acting like people are overblowing it have their head in the sand. Doesn't matter - history will not look down kindly on them, and they will be judged accordingly.
The Trump Derangement Syndrome comments from  
732NYG : 2/24/2019 11:52 am : link
the same crowd who bashed Obama for years and takes every excuse to bring up the Clintons is laughable at best. History will be his judge, and it ain’t gonna be kind.
732NYG  
XBRONX : 2/24/2019 12:05 pm : link
Trump kool aid drinkers love their QAnon tshirts.
At this point the biggest mystery in the Smollett affair,  
Bill L : 2/24/2019 12:07 pm : link
Is why some people here still have posting privileges.
Trump was  
XBRONX : 2/24/2019 12:07 pm : link
asked to comment. He never brought up the MAGA Coast Guard terrorist himself, not even a tweet. More fake news by the right.
Qed  
Bill L : 2/24/2019 12:08 pm : link
.
RE: At this point the biggest mystery in the Smollett affair,  
montanagiant : 2/24/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14304991 Bill L said:
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Is why some people here still have posting privileges.


LOL...Not me, I've stayed a mile away from that part of the discussion
RE: At this point the biggest mystery in the Smollett affair,  
Big Al : 2/24/2019 12:29 pm : link
In comment 14304991 Bill L said:
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Is why some people here still have posting privileges.
Hi Bill. That is mystery 2 to me. As I commented much earlier Mystery 1 is why this thread is still here even though I am glad it is.

The discussion has been pretty civil with the exception of a few and has been much better than in the past.
RE: The Trump Derangement Syndrome comments from  
Big Al : 2/24/2019 12:41 pm : link
In comment 14304985 732NYG said:
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the same crowd who bashed Obama for years and takes every excuse to bring up the Clintons is laughable at best. History will be his judge, and it ain’t gonna be kind.
The Trump Derangement comment does not come from being critical of Trump. There is a hell of a lot to be critical about much of which I have I have taken part in, it comes on when Trump is a target no matter what he says or does. Even if you actually agree, no credit is given but motives are questioned. Or like s few posts above words that he did not say are put in his mouth.

I am not sure about others but logical comments are more convincing to me than hysteria based on hatred.
Trump Derangement Syndrome...hmm...  
Ryan in Albany : 2/24/2019 1:02 pm : link
is that when you're so deranged and out of touch with reality that you actually believe all the garbage he spouts in his tweets (or anywhere else) is the truth?
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