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NFT: Knicks Chat: Red Alert-Dolan shopping the Knicks

DanMetroMan : 2/18/2019 10:30 am
Per Bill Simmons
From his lips to  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2019 10:31 am : link
God's ear.

There have been rumblings in past months insinuating this too.
Just mentioned this on an earlier Knicks thread.  
bceagle05 : 2/18/2019 10:34 am : link
Several people told that to Simmons during All-Star Weekend, and added that he may not do it while his dad is alive. His dad is 92 years old. Also, he wants to keep MSG and just sell the team, which complicates things a bit. But there's a lot of smoke surrounding this, to be sure.
Oh how i want this to be true..  
Italianju : 2/18/2019 10:34 am : link
and i dont doubt simmons has legit sources. That said i cant imagine Dolan considers selling right before we potentially add a big time FA and/or the #1 pick.

Maybe this is why "stars" are considering coming here, cause they heard dolan is on the way out. Please, please, please.....
Holding onto MSG might be good for him and the buyer.  
robbieballs2003 : 2/18/2019 10:41 am : link
Doesn't he not pay any taxes on MSG? If he sells it then I think the city/state can get rid of that agreement. If he holds onto MSG then maybe he still gets that exemption which can then benefit the buyer.
I know this won't be a popular response,  
Ira : 2/18/2019 10:45 am : link
but I think Dolan was starting to get what's involved in being a good owner.
Kd made some interesting comments  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2019 10:50 am : link
Said kp is in a better spot for him

said deandre is in a good spot after trade...

said he trusts rich kleinman with everything...

a lot of people are making way to much of how much kyrie and kd hungout during all star events
RE: Kd made some interesting comments  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/18/2019 10:53 am : link
In comment 14299209 nygiants16 said:
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a lot of people are making way to much of how much kyrie and kd hungout during all star events



They are friends though.

I'm not huge on Kyrie, I think this season the celtics are having makes him look bad considering how far they got last season without him and Hayward.
RE: RE: Kd made some interesting comments  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14299211 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14299209 nygiants16 said:


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a lot of people are making way to much of how much kyrie and kd hungout during all star events




They are friends though.

I'm not huge on Kyrie, I think this season the celtics are having makes him look bad considering how far they got last season without him and Hayward.


a lot of people on twitter are analyzing how much they hungout and were seen talking, i thinknit is ridiculous..
Funny to me people hoping this is true..  
Sean : 2/18/2019 11:31 am : link
Yet a lot of you are the same people that hate Isola. You all think Dolan is awful, but you hate Isola because he is ruthless on Dolan? Never understood that.
Be careful what you wish for  
djm : 2/18/2019 11:32 am : link
At least Dolan spends the money and runs a good business model. He’s even backed off and let the GM/HC do their thing with autonomy, or so it would appear.

Dolan could not have done a shittier job from the late 90s to Phil Jackson but most of us loved the phil hire. He just went insane on our dime which sucks. Seems now he’s got good people in charge....

But, it certainly wouldn’t keep me up at night if Dolan sold the Knicks.
RE: Funny to me people hoping this is true..  
MookGiants : 2/18/2019 11:41 am : link
In comment 14299240 Sean said:
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Yet a lot of you are the same people that hate Isola. You all think Dolan is awful, but you hate Isola because he is ruthless on Dolan? Never understood that.


Most people hate Isola because he is just a troll and provides nothing of value. Not because he hates Dolan.
Please  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 2/18/2019 12:04 pm : link
make it so...
most nba teams are willing to spend....  
Italianju : 2/18/2019 12:10 pm : link
and you think whoever buys the knicks is going to be penny pinching??

Also isola is a hack who lets his personal feelings influence every piece of garbage he writes. If he wants to write a piece trashing dolan then fine. But everything he writes he shits on the knicks because he hates dolan. Why would any fan want every article to be written like that.
What kind of person would buy the Knicks for 4 billion  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/18/2019 12:10 pm : link
though? Buying teams makes sense when you expect them to appreciate in value and make money off it down the road. Buying now would be buying pretty high.
RE: What kind of person would buy the Knicks for 4 billion  
Stu11 : 2/18/2019 12:39 pm : link
In comment 14299278 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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though? Buying teams makes sense when you expect them to appreciate in value and make money off it down the road. Buying now would be buying pretty high.

Yes but how many people buy sports teams as strict isolated dollar investments? not many. They buy them for a multitude of reasons- prestige, an in to the exclusive clubs that are the pro sports organizations, as vehicles to gain influence by giving away access and tickets etc...
RE: What kind of person would buy the Knicks for 4 billion  
TyreeHelmet : 2/18/2019 12:47 pm : link
In comment 14299278 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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though? Buying teams makes sense when you expect them to appreciate in value and make money off it down the road. Buying now would be buying pretty high.


It will go for over 4 bill. If he truly puts it up for sale, the demand will be insane. It’s the ultimate toy for a rich New Yorker.
Bezos - he can make up with NYC after pulling out.  
GiantsUA : 2/18/2019 3:02 pm : link
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May not mean much,  
Mad Mike : 2/18/2019 5:02 pm : link
but the Garden has issued a statement that there are no plans to sell the team.

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The story is 100% false. There has been nothing. No discussions. No plans to have discussions -- nothing.

lonk - ( New Window )
there is a video circulating  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2019 5:12 pm : link
that it looks like irving says to durant they have 2 max slots it is time...

i dunno i watched it but i think my kind is playing tricks on me
I kinda hope that's NOT what they were discussing  
bceagle05 : 2/18/2019 5:19 pm : link
because KD was brushing him off a bit.
RE: I kinda hope that's NOT what they were discussing  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2019 5:22 pm : link
In comment 14299522 bceagle05 said:
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because KD was brushing him off a bit.


yeah but they were tied together the entire weekend...

I dunno it is hard not to read to much into it
RE: I kinda hope that's NOT what they were discussing  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2019 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14299522 bceagle05 said:
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because KD was brushing him off a bit.


it is funny to because everyone thinks kd is the lock and he has to recruit irving
Gonna be a long few months.  
bceagle05 : 2/18/2019 5:57 pm : link
The video of KD leaving the bench after the argument with Draymond earlier this season showed him clearly saying, "That's why I'm out." I remember that being the first time I really took this seriously.
RE: Gonna be a long few months.  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2019 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14299541 bceagle05 said:
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The video of KD leaving the bench after the argument with Draymond earlier this season showed him clearly saying, "That's why I'm out." I remember that being the first time I really took this seriously.


I didnt take it seriously until the kp trade
I've been banging the drum for awhile:  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2019 6:53 pm : link
I think it's nearly a lock KD is a Knick come this summer. Too much fire.
I’ll say this (speaking of Durant and Irving)  
djm : 2/18/2019 8:01 pm : link
If these guys do not sign with the Knicks it is going to be hard to remain objective or hopeful as a fan, in the sense that all of this talk and smoke would feel like a troll job. Knick fans can take a lot but this would be a new low. Even if the Knicks remained calm and stayed the course it will sting.
RE: I've been banging the drum for awhile:  
djm : 2/18/2019 8:03 pm : link
In comment 14299564 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I think it's nearly a lock KD is a Knick come this summer. Too much fire.


If Durant signs here the dominoes start falling for the Knicks. Entire league changes dramatically..

if...
Been a Knicks fan for a long time.  
Beezer : 2/18/2019 8:10 pm : link
Will believe Durant is a Knick when he is.
RE: I’ll say this (speaking of Durant and Irving)  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2019 8:11 pm : link
In comment 14299600 djm said:
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If these guys do not sign with the Knicks it is going to be hard to remain objective or hopeful as a fan, in the sense that all of this talk and smoke would feel like a troll job. Knick fans can take a lot but this would be a new low. Even if the Knicks remained calm and stayed the course it will sting.


this is the biggest offseason since 2010...

make the wrong move and knicks could be set back for a long time...

also if no superstar comes this offseason they will never come via free agency
RE: I know this won't be a popular response,  
steve in ky : 2/18/2019 8:40 pm : link
In comment 14299203 Ira said:
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but I think Dolan was starting to get what's involved in being a good owner.


Dolan was horrible pre-Phil Jackson. Since then he genuinely seems to have stayed an arms length away from personnel decisions. And nobody can ever call him cheap. Hopefully if he sells it doesn't turn out to be the old "be careful for what you wish for", and we end up with a cheap-skate for an owner.
So much of the turn-around plan  
PhilSimms15 : 2/18/2019 8:41 pm : link
Depends upon the lottery. Other than the Ewing lottery, the Knicks have not moved up in a lottery. They have either stayed flat or fell to a lower slot.

If they win the first pick (no way that happens. The only Knick luck is bad luck), their plan is off and running with Zion.

If they go 1-3 it’s not the end of the world as both Morant and Barrett have the potential to be all-stars.

However, fall to four and below, they lose a major trade chip and probably only get an average starter.

Zion, Morant or Barrett would also be attractive to free agents as team mates.

I am not sure I can bring myself to watch the lottery when it happens but I will hold my breath until it’s done.
I dont understand the concern...  
Italianju : 2/19/2019 9:32 am : link
that someone is going to buy the knicks and penny pinch. Why would you pay 5 billion for an nba team in NY and then tighten the purse strings. And its the nba where they have pretty much limited the advantage of a big market and owner willing to spend. Really a penny pinching owner means that you might get stuck with a Ron baker taking up a roster spot for a year vs being bought out, not exactly the end of the world.
The salary cap makes it nearly impossible for the Knicks to lose  
Heisenberg : 2/19/2019 9:34 am : link
money.
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