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Defenderdawg : 2/19/2019 6:49 am
Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter)
2/19/19, 6:30 AM
Starting today and until March 5, there could be at least 10 players receiving some form of a tag: DeMarcus Lawrence, Jadeveon Clowney, Dee Ford, Frank Clark, Gardy Jarrett, Landon Collins, Nick Foles, Le’Veon Bell, Donovan Smith, Robbie Gould and Stephen Gostkowski, per sources


Florio PFT: OBJ to 49ers trade remains a possibility

“The 49ers have had real interest in Beckham for nearly a year; the only question is whether the Giants are willing to pull the trigger. As reflected by last week’s bold offseason prediction from Jay Glazer, the Giants may indeed be ready to do so.
The 49ers hold the second and 36th overall picks in the 2019 draft; the No. 2 overall selection would seemingly be a high price to pay, possibly requiring the Giants to send maybe a third- or fourth-round pick back to the 49ers to balance it all out.
The Rams also had interest last year in trading for Beckham. They instead made a deal for Brandin Cooks. But if the Rams want to make a big splash in 2019, they could (in theory) dangle someone like receiver Robert Woods to the Giants as part of the package.
However it all plays out, Glazer didn’t throw out the notion of a Beckham trade recklessly. Beckham remains in play for a trade (no matter what the Giants officially say), and the 49ers remain on the short list of teams that could get him.”

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/18/obj-to-49ers-trade-remains-a-possibility/
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Antonio Brown is officially on the trade block  
Ssanders9816 : 2/19/2019 11:33 am : link
Hopefully that ends this nonsense
RE: This is madness  
AcesUp : 2/19/2019 11:33 am : link
In comment 14299871 Sonic Youth said:
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I cannot believe there is this much smoke around trading OBJ. Why would the Giants do this?


This. He's a top 3 player at a premium position in the prime of his career. They aren't easy to find. If you are even open to dealing him you better have your reasons and if you do deal him, it better be for value. If the Niners are that team, you should be hanging up the phone on them if doesn't revolve around the 2nd pick.
Let me say this,  
robbieballs2003 : 2/19/2019 11:35 am : link
Just from an on the field standpoint trading Beckham would be dumb. Yes, there is more that goes into it than that but I will explain.

We have done a horrible job over the years protecting our investments. I have said this before but it should be repeated. If Eli was the strength of our team in 2008 and on then we shouldn't have had the mentality that Eli will make our OL look better than they are. It should be the opposite. It should have been Eli is so important to the success of this team that we need to address the OL to protect him.

Fast forward to Beckham. He has been our offense since he stepped foot on the field. What have we done to help him out? Not much.

Now, Gettleman takes over and gets Barkley. He helps take a lot of the pressure off Beckham and makes our offense more balanced. We still have work to do obviously. Our OL still needs to be addressed. But this is the first time since our defense a few years ago that we had something to hang our hat on.

Gettting rid of Beckham is the opposite of protecting your investment. It is going back to that mentality that Barkley is good enough to make up for lesser weapons around him. It isn't what should be done. It should be how can we make Barkley the best back to ever play this game?

I understand we had some great offensive outputs without Beckham this year but those are small sample sizes.

Lets look at KC. KC is loaded with talent and Mahomes was part of that. Because of their talent almost every team played off coverage and zone as to not let KC burn them deep. What happened was Mahomes was still so goo and Hill was still so fast they still made plays downfield. Most teams wouldn't dare load up the box, play press coverage, and leave their DBs one on one with all that talent on O. Well, nobody by Belichick. Bekichick said if we are going to give up big plays it is going to be because they earned it. He blitzed Mahomes while leaving his secondary vulnerable. He put the onus on Mahomes to be accurate and it worked. Most young QBs are going to struggle with making quick decisions and accurate passes while staring down a pass rush.

Now relate that to any QB we bring in. If you get rid of Beckham teams are just going to stack the box to stop Barkley and blitz the shit out of our QB. Are you putting that QB in a great position to succeed? Are you putting Barkley in a position to succeed? The answer is no.

I did say that this is just on the field and more goes into it than that but from an on the field perspective it doesn't make sense to me. I am not factoring in other things for this post and I am not saying if the right offer came along that I wouldn't take it.
RE: Let me say this,  
GiantGrit : 2/19/2019 11:40 am : link
In comment 14299983 robbieballs2003 said:
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Just from an on the field standpoint trading Beckham would be dumb. Yes, there is more that goes into it than that but I will explain.

We have done a horrible job over the years protecting our investments. I have said this before but it should be repeated. If Eli was the strength of our team in 2008 and on then we shouldn't have had the mentality that Eli will make our OL look better than they are. It should be the opposite. It should have been Eli is so important to the success of this team that we need to address the OL to protect him.

Fast forward to Beckham. He has been our offense since he stepped foot on the field. What have we done to help him out? Not much.

Now, Gettleman takes over and gets Barkley. He helps take a lot of the pressure off Beckham and makes our offense more balanced. We still have work to do obviously. Our OL still needs to be addressed. But this is the first time since our defense a few years ago that we had something to hang our hat on.

Gettting rid of Beckham is the opposite of protecting your investment. It is going back to that mentality that Barkley is good enough to make up for lesser weapons around him. It isn't what should be done. It should be how can we make Barkley the best back to ever play this game?

I understand we had some great offensive outputs without Beckham this year but those are small sample sizes.

Lets look at KC. KC is loaded with talent and Mahomes was part of that. Because of their talent almost every team played off coverage and zone as to not let KC burn them deep. What happened was Mahomes was still so goo and Hill was still so fast they still made plays downfield. Most teams wouldn't dare load up the box, play press coverage, and leave their DBs one on one with all that talent on O. Well, nobody by Belichick. Bekichick said if we are going to give up big plays it is going to be because they earned it. He blitzed Mahomes while leaving his secondary vulnerable. He put the onus on Mahomes to be accurate and it worked. Most young QBs are going to struggle with making quick decisions and accurate passes while staring down a pass rush.

Now relate that to any QB we bring in. If you get rid of Beckham teams are just going to stack the box to stop Barkley and blitz the shit out of our QB. Are you putting that QB in a great position to succeed? Are you putting Barkley in a position to succeed? The answer is no.

I did say that this is just on the field and more goes into it than that but from an on the field perspective it doesn't make sense to me. I am not factoring in other things for this post and I am not saying if the right offer came along that I wouldn't take it.


Just once, i'd like to see the QB and weapons on this team with steady line play for a year. It would suck to trade him only to shortly figure out the rest of our line thereafter.
I think it’s funny  
eric2425ny : 2/19/2019 11:48 am : link
When people are like “we’d get the #2 pick in the draft, etc.”. There are plenty of busts taken that high in the draft. Imagine us trading away OBJ and not only taking the huge cap hit next year but also ending up with some horrible bust at 2. That would screw us for years.
I love OBJ  
Pep22 : 2/19/2019 11:58 am : link
but I would probably trade him to walk out of day 2 with:

2 DE/LB Josh Allen
6 QB Dwayne Haskins
36 OG Chris Lindstrom
37 WR N'Keal Harry

and significantly increased cap room.
disregard the  
Pep22 : 2/19/2019 12:00 pm : link
cap room part of that
RE: disregard the  
eric2425ny : 2/19/2019 12:09 pm : link
In comment 14300027 Pep22 said:
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cap room part of that


You are right the following year though. The only way I see the Giants doing this is if they are concerned Beckham is injury prone, or if he is somehow a problem in the locker room. The cap hit alone would suggest that they don’t think we can seriously compete next year and would be gearing up for some big FA moves the following year
Beckham will be a Giant next season  
Bramton1 : 2/19/2019 12:10 pm : link
I don't see any of these trade talks are particularly serious. Seems to me it's more of the media wanting to see Beckham play for a sexier team under a young and exciting quarterback.

Also, Glazer made it a BOLD prediction. By definition, it's a prediction that could happen, probably won't, and exists only to make the "expert" look smart if it actually does.
My guess is the 49ers end up with Antonio Brown which  
wgenesis123 : 2/19/2019 12:27 pm : link
gets him out of the AFC for the Steelers. Giants get nothing and keep OBJ.
I'd trade him for the 2nd and 36th pick  
montanagiant : 2/19/2019 12:38 pm : link
I don't see the burst he once had and I think he's going to be an issue if we are not a winning team this coming season. Eat the dead money this year, but you could fill 4 holes with good talent in the first 37 picks.

That's a huge thing to consider
If the Steelers really want to trade Brown than the price will  
wgenesis123 : 2/19/2019 12:49 pm : link
be much cheaper than trading for OBJ. To a certain degree it kills the market for OBJ
We also should remember  
Bob in Newburgh : 2/19/2019 12:49 pm : link
With leg injury that involves structural repair and healing, it is often the 2nd year back that the old explosiveness comes back.

No guarantees of course, but there is a long history of this happening.
RE: If the Steelers really want to trade Brown than the price will  
Diver_Down : 2/19/2019 12:54 pm : link
In comment 14300119 wgenesis123 said:
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be much cheaper than trading for OBJ. To a certain degree it kills the market for OBJ


Not necessarily, OBJ is much younger and locked in with relatively guaranteed salaries. AB is looking for new money along with being older and a headcase.
RE: I love OBJ  
Rjanyg : 2/19/2019 1:08 pm : link
In comment 14300025 Pep22 said:
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but I would probably trade him to walk out of day 2 with:

2 DE/LB Josh Allen
6 QB Dwayne Haskins
36 OG Chris Lindstrom
37 WR N'Keal Harry

and significantly increased cap room.


I could almost sign up for that. Allen is may fav player in the draft, Haskins is my fav QB in the draft, Lindstrom and Harry are day 1 starters IMO.
You only trade OBJ if you get over-compensated back.....  
SGMen : 2/19/2019 1:14 pm : link
If you trade OBJ now you are telling the team and fans that you are in a rebuilding mode now. You are telling Eli that you will likely have another really rough year.

OBJ didn't make big deep plays last year at all. But as noted above, he was the only threat we had at WR. He looked "good" to me most weeks, efficient and such.

If San Francisco is willing to give up their #2 straight up for him, I say make the trade. Who is to say some team doesn't call the Giants to trade down so they can get Murray or Haskins? We may want the extra picks?

Bottom line: if you trade OBJ we are truly in rebuilding mode. Why would Eli want to come back if he knows its over before it ever started?

If trading OBJ forces Eli to re-think things and retire, well maybe that works to the Giants long-term benefit? I'm just not sure.
If you read the post again  
Leg of Theismann : 2/19/2019 1:15 pm : link
Please note that nowhere does it say the #2 and #36 pick for OBJ. It simply says the 49ers hold the #2 and #36 pick in the draft and it says the #2 is probably too high of a price and would require the Giants to give back a 4th to even it out.

OBJ for the #2 and #36 pick is a pipe dream, but if it were to happen we'd be able to land either Bosa or Big Q at #2 (clearly the 2 best players in the draft) and still have #6, #36, and #37. Honestly at that point I would probably trade down from #6 (maybe to #13 to Dolphins looking for QB) and get capital for next year to go after one of the 2020 QBs. Then with #13, #36, and #37 we could really build in the trenches, get 2 great OL and become a run-first team with Barkley, and otherwise get another great playmaker (whether it's WR to replace OBJ or an LB or DB on defense). This could also allow us to move on from Vernon and really free up cap space. I'd probably still want Eli on the team until end of 2020, but we could really set up a nice situation for whichever star (likely NFL-ready) 2020 QB we land to come in and have immediate success.
RE: You only trade OBJ if you get over-compensated back.....  
Leg of Theismann : 2/19/2019 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14300151 SGMen said:
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If you trade OBJ now you are telling the team and fans that you are in a rebuilding mode now. You are telling Eli that you will likely have another really rough year.

OBJ didn't make big deep plays last year at all. But as noted above, he was the only threat we had at WR. He looked "good" to me most weeks, efficient and such.

If San Francisco is willing to give up their #2 straight up for him, I say make the trade. Who is to say some team doesn't call the Giants to trade down so they can get Murray or Haskins? We may want the extra picks?

Bottom line: if you trade OBJ we are truly in rebuilding mode. Why would Eli want to come back if he knows its over before it ever started?

If trading OBJ forces Eli to re-think things and retire, well maybe that works to the Giants long-term benefit? I'm just not sure.


I can give you 23 million reasons why Eli Manning would not retire.
RE: RE: You only trade OBJ if you get over-compensated back.....  
Diver_Down : 2/19/2019 1:21 pm : link
In comment 14300154 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 14300151 SGMen said:


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If you trade OBJ now you are telling the team and fans that you are in a rebuilding mode now. You are telling Eli that you will likely have another really rough year.

OBJ didn't make big deep plays last year at all. But as noted above, he was the only threat we had at WR. He looked "good" to me most weeks, efficient and such.

If San Francisco is willing to give up their #2 straight up for him, I say make the trade. Who is to say some team doesn't call the Giants to trade down so they can get Murray or Haskins? We may want the extra picks?

Bottom line: if you trade OBJ we are truly in rebuilding mode. Why would Eli want to come back if he knows its over before it ever started?

If trading OBJ forces Eli to re-think things and retire, well maybe that works to the Giants long-term benefit? I'm just not sure.



I can give you 23 million reasons why Eli Manning would not retire.


Go ahead. His yearly cash earnings for 2019 will be $17M. He has already earned the signing bonus years ago. He could still retire after 3/17 with $12M blowing in the wind.
RE: RE: I love OBJ  
Leg of Theismann : 2/19/2019 1:21 pm : link
In comment 14300148 Rjanyg said:
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In comment 14300025 Pep22 said:


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but I would probably trade him to walk out of day 2 with:

2 DE/LB Josh Allen
6 QB Dwayne Haskins
36 OG Chris Lindstrom
37 WR N'Keal Harry

and significantly increased cap room.



I could almost sign up for that. Allen is may fav player in the draft, Haskins is my fav QB in the draft, Lindstrom and Harry are day 1 starters IMO.


I love Allen but I still feel Bosa and Quinnen Williams are the top 2 players in this draft regardless of position. If the Cards don't take Bosa then we're taking Bosa. If they do take Bosa, imagine having a d-line of Hill, Tomlinson, and Williams for years to come. In a 3-4 if you control the LOS with your down 3 you can make pretty much turn any set of LBs into all-stars.
RE: I think it’s funny  
Gman11 : 2/19/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14300011 eric2425ny said:
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When people are like “we’d get the #2 pick in the draft, etc.”. There are plenty of busts taken that high in the draft. Imagine us trading away OBJ and not only taking the huge cap hit next year but also ending up with some horrible bust at 2. That would screw us for years.


Yup. Trade OBJ to get the #2 pick and draft a WR that you hope will be as good as OBJ.
I think a more realistic  
mittenedman : 2/19/2019 2:10 pm : link
trade would be Giants and 49ers swap 1's and Giants get 2nd and 3rd.

Giants get #2, #36 & #67.

49ers get #6 and OBJ.

Not sure that is interesting enough for my blood but I imagine it's come up in negotiations (the switching of 1st round picks).
To expand  
mittenedman : 2/19/2019 2:13 pm : link
IF the Giants are interested in Haskins and think they have to trade up to get him, the deal above could make a lot of sense. They won't have to "give up the farm".
Trade him  
Bubba : 2/19/2019 2:20 pm : link
for the picks then sign Antonio Brown, problem solved...maybe. :)
RE: The tag on Collins  
santacruzom : 2/19/2019 2:48 pm : link
In comment 14299688 section125 said:
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of course the Giants don't have a 3rd pick.)


It doesn't have to be a 2019 pick though.
RE: RE: I think it’s funny  
jnoble : 2/19/2019 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14300167 Gman11 said:
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In comment 14300011 eric2425ny said:


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When people are like “we’d get the #2 pick in the draft, etc.”. There are plenty of busts taken that high in the draft. Imagine us trading away OBJ and not only taking the huge cap hit next year but also ending up with some horrible bust at 2. That would screw us for years.



Yup. Trade OBJ to get the #2 pick and draft a WR that you hope will be as good as OBJ.


Trading a well known great player for a totally unknown question mark player

MAKES TOTAL SENSE
OFF SEASON CHAMPS MAKING SEXY OFF SEASON CHAMP MOVES!!!
WOW BBI is LOST  
BleedBlue : 2/19/2019 3:39 pm : link
first off....OBJ is worth ALOT. he is young and in his prime and one of the best players in the game.
#2 overall seems nice now until you draft a guy who turns into william joseph lol

picks are a crapshoot and its nice to have the capital, its much nicer to have one of the best WRs in the game. MINIMUM to start the talk for me is #2 #34

for the cardinals its rosen, #33, #65

OBJ is a GENERATIONAL talent. chances are nobody in this draft will be the level of player he is.

fans are obsessed with draft picks like they are gold. amari fucking cooper got a first rounder, im taking 2 at least for OBJ or im not doing it. idgaf if its #2 overall. OBJ is proven in the NFL.
RE: I think a more realistic  
BleedBlue : 2/19/2019 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14300213 mittenedman said:
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trade would be Giants and 49ers swap 1's and Giants get 2nd and 3rd.

Giants get #2, #36 & #67.

49ers get #6 and OBJ.

Not sure that is interesting enough for my blood but I imagine it's come up in negotiations (the switching of 1st round picks).


horrible deal. a 2 and 3 and move up 4 spots?!?! nah im good
RE: I think a more realistic  
Beer Man : 2/19/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14300213 mittenedman said:
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trade would be Giants and 49ers swap 1's and Giants get 2nd and 3rd.

Giants get #2, #36 & #67.

49ers get #6 and OBJ.

Not sure that is interesting enough for my blood but I imagine it's come up in negotiations (the switching of 1st round picks).
Whaaat? DG would be run out of town if he made a deal like that (on the other hand the 49ers GM would be hailed as a conquering hero for having picked the Giants pocket). Trading OBJ (an elite play-maker, and top-3 WR; maybe generational) to move up 4 slots and gain an extra #2 & #3, in what universe would that be a good deal for the Giants?
It's a common refrain  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/19/2019 4:17 pm : link
The team that gets the most draft picks somehow wins the transaction.



RE: Beckham to the Yankees is a possibility  
moaltch : 2/19/2019 4:32 pm : link
Thank you Sy....I can't believe this complete nonsense has legs.
RE: It's a common refrain  
arcarsenal : 2/19/2019 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14300336 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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The team that gets the most draft picks somehow wins the transaction.




The great unknown!!!!
RE: The team needs to rebuild  
Jersey55 : 2/19/2019 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14299918 UberAlias said:
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They need their QB and need to rebuild in the trenches. The offense runs through Saquon. I don't get the idea OBJ is 100% in with Shurmur. I could be wrong, but that's my impression.

Dealing OBJ is probably the right move if you can get a good enough offer. And good enough is probably less than folks on here assume.

I understand the feelings about not trading OBJ but is it realistic for team with such major needs like the Giants who have basically been a bottom feeder for the last few years to carry a player who takes up so much financial space, IMO we don't need to afford a player like OBJ..
RE: WOW BBI is LOST  
AcidTest : 2/19/2019 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14300293 BleedBlue said:
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first off....OBJ is worth ALOT. he is young and in his prime and one of the best players in the game.
#2 overall seems nice now until you draft a guy who turns into william joseph lol

picks are a crapshoot and its nice to have the capital, its much nicer to have one of the best WRs in the game. MINIMUM to start the talk for me is #2 #34

for the cardinals its rosen, #33, #65

OBJ is a GENERATIONAL talent. chances are nobody in this draft will be the level of player he is.

fans are obsessed with draft picks like they are gold. amari fucking cooper got a first rounder, im taking 2 at least for OBJ or im not doing it. idgaf if its #2 overall. OBJ is proven in the NFL.


+1.
RE: I'm not sure of what to make out of  
FStubbs : 2/19/2019 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14299912 Beer Man said:
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all this OBJ trade talk. DG has publicly stated he didn't sign OBJ to a long term deal to turnaround and trade him. But the noise keeps popping up. Is it just noise being created by writers who have nothing new to report because of the time of year (so they are over speculating to generate news), or is there something to it?


They have nothing new and nothing else to cover, so may as well spend another offseason trying to manufacture an OBJ trade.
RE: I think a more realistic  
bw in dc : 2/19/2019 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14300213 mittenedman said:
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trade would be Giants and 49ers swap 1's and Giants get 2nd and 3rd.

Giants get #2, #36 & #67.

49ers get #6 and OBJ.

Not sure that is interesting enough for my blood but I imagine it's come up in negotiations (the switching of 1st round picks).


Throw in Pettis, who I really like, or Goodwin and my interest grows...
I lOVEe OBJ  
chopperhatch : 2/19/2019 7:18 pm : link
love love love him and his passion. But for the 2 and their 2nd considering our holes along with need for a QB is too hard to pass up. We still have Shep and Engram and can get a plenty good WR.
OBJ is an amazing talent...  
EricJ : 2/19/2019 7:54 pm : link
and this offense cannot operate without him...even with Barkley on the team. If you remove OBJ, defenses will completely stack the box because we have absolutely NOBODY else that is a #1 WR...let alone a good one.

OBJ has us over a barrel right now.
Keeping LC at all cost is a smart move.  
prdave73 : 2/19/2019 8:22 pm : link
Last thing you want is to be down 2 starting safies.. It’s bad enough the Giants were hurting without a FS.. This is need position in FA or the upcoming draft imo.
What’s really funny here...  
trueblueinpw : 2/19/2019 8:53 pm : link
I know the article doesn’t say 2 and 36, but the fact people thought 2 and 36 and still said “no way, that’s crazy” is amazing to me. OBJ is one of best WR in the league, sure, but the Giants need to get a QB and with the 2nd overall pick in the draft they would get a real shot at a franchise QB. And then they would have another pick at 6 and then the mythical 36. That’s a pretty darn good scenario. In February at least.
If needed to go up to the #2 pick to get a franchise QB  
Jimmy Googs : 2/19/2019 10:00 pm : link
then I would think there are ways to orchestrate that without giving up OBJ.

I am not against a block-buster deal involving him, but just don't recall too many wins this team has had since 2014 where this guy wasn't a major factor in the outcome.

Unfortunately, I don't recall too many wins since 2014 altogether...

RE: Beckham will be a Giant next season  
jhibb : 2/19/2019 11:23 pm : link
In comment 14300039 Bramton1 said:
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Also, Glazer made it a BOLD prediction. By definition, it's a prediction that could happen, probably won't, and exists only to make the "expert" look smart if it actually does.


Exactly. It's funny (really sad, actually) how this has spawned so many comments from professionals who ignore the context in which the prediction was made.
OBJ  
Big_Pete : 2/20/2019 4:47 am : link
Based on the rumours that came out about last year, Gettleman and co were willing to move on from OBJ (if we got the right trade value), for whatever reasoning.

Realistically the Giants are in the midst of retooling over the next couple of seasons. We will be transitioning from Eli Manning, likely shedding some of our bigger contracts. Gettleman will continue to bring in his guys and the defence will likely get an infusion of talent.

Hypotherically, what would an offence without Beckham look like?

Our offence was effective late last year while Beckham was out. Shurmur did spread the ball around quite a lot instead of targeting OBJ heavily.

Without OBJ, our offence would likely be built around Saquon Barkley. I could easily see a lot of two TE sets.

The Giants have had trouble getting the ball into the endzon in the green zone. I do think the Giants would like to add a big physical WR who can do the physical target we haven't had since Plaxico. I could see a guy like Devin Funchess as a free agent or Hakeem Butler in perhaps round 3 of the draft or maybe even Jalen Hurd on day 3.

OBJ is certainly a great talent and a genuine weapon. I also think the offence could be ok if he moved on, though it will be different
Can't wait for the numerious BBI mock drafts  
ZogZerg : 2/20/2019 7:02 am : link
that have the Giants trading OBJ for picks and then drafting Players X, Y, and Z...

What a waste of time.
RE: RE: The team needs to rebuild  
UberAlias : 2/20/2019 8:22 am : link
In comment 14300371 Jersey55 said:
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In comment 14299918 UberAlias said:


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They need their QB and need to rebuild in the trenches. The offense runs through Saquon. I don't get the idea OBJ is 100% in with Shurmur. I could be wrong, but that's my impression.

Dealing OBJ is probably the right move if you can get a good enough offer. And good enough is probably less than folks on here assume.


I understand the feelings about not trading OBJ but is it realistic for team with such major needs like the Giants who have basically been a bottom feeder for the last few years to carry a player who takes up so much financial space, IMO we don't need to afford a player like OBJ..
When a team has been poor for as long as this one has, it's not out of line to acknowledge the need for a rebuild and to consider what resources are available to move in that direction. The team has committed to building the offense around Saquan. All word wide receiver is not a major area of need when you can't rush the passer, have a need to rebuild the Oline, and don't have your QB of the future.
My thoughts  
Rjanyg : 2/20/2019 8:35 am : link
Odell is a frustrating Giant. I’d prefer he profess his love of being part of this team and diffuse any interest of playing elsewhere. It would also be great if he showed more leadership now that he is entering his 6th NFL season. Something about WR’s that they tend to be divas.

He is a vital piece to the offense. As somebody mentioned, Barkley is focal point but would be less effective if OBJ is not here. Trading him for picks sounds great but if we draft a QB if the future I would think Odell would be more if a help than a hinderance. Think back to 2008 without Plaxico.
For another team,  
Doomster : 2/20/2019 8:51 am : link
OBj is a steal because the Giants are responsible for the bonus money.....his average salary is around 15M per.....after 2019, he can be cut with no ramifications(just 2.75M of 2020 contract is guaranteed).....none of the rest of the contract is guaranteed if cut before a certain day.....

But to trade him now, is an additional 9M in dead money for the Giants....and DG should be fired if it happens....if there were future thoughts of trading him, they should have franchised him instead....which probably would have prevented us from signing free agents last season....
Has anyone considered that maybe  
RobCrossRiver56 : 2/20/2019 10:02 am : link

OBJ doesn't want to be here? Unless the o-line is fixed, Eli will have trouble getting him the ball. And if we draft a rookie it might be the more of the same for a year or two. just a thought...
RE: Has anyone considered that maybe  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/20/2019 10:34 am : link
In comment 14300661 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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OBJ doesn't want to be here? Unless the o-line is fixed, Eli will have trouble getting him the ball. And if we draft a rookie it might be the more of the same for a year or two. just a thought...


If he doesnt, then it's being handled the proper way considering he and the team have not said anything to this point, and the team has given no indication that they're looking for a deal that any reporter is putting their name behind.
I wouldn't mind  
Carson53 : 2/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
if the Giants move him, if they get an offer they can't refuse. I highly doubt that DG would move up to No. 2
in the draft for a guy like Haskins, that would be kind
of asinine. Haskins is simply not worth it IMO.
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