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AAF Needed $250 Million Investment to Avoid Missing Payroll

Jints in Carolina : 2/19/2019 8:57 am
uh oh

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The Alliance of American Football is only a few weeks old and already it has encountered the biggest problem that plagues most startup leagues.

According to a report from The Athletic, the AAF despite a good ratings debut, was running low on cash with the possiblity of missing payroll before its second weekend of play.

But then Carolina Hurricanes owner Tom Dundon stepped up and made a $250 million investment in the league. With the new infusion of funds on hand, Dundon will reportedly be named the league's new chairman on Tuesday.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/02/19/aaf-money-problems-tom-dundon-investment - ( New Window )
I can see them running low on cash  
jcn56 : 2/19/2019 9:00 am : link
but in week 2? Don't these guys have accountants?
RE: I can see them running low on cash  
Jints in Carolina : 2/19/2019 9:03 am : link
In comment 14299775 jcn56 said:
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but in week 2? Don't these guys have accountants?


Yeah no shit...I was shocked to read that.
RE: I can see them running low on cash  
CromartiesKid21 : 2/19/2019 9:04 am : link
In comment 14299775 jcn56 said:
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but in week 2? Don't these guys have accountants?


Maybe their run by the folks who threw Fyre Festival?
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arcarsenal : 2/19/2019 9:05 am : link
Yikes.
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Jints in Carolina : 2/19/2019 9:07 am : link
In comment 14299787 arcarsenal said:
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Yikes.


The good news is I bet the Memphis Express who drew less than 9k move to Raleigh next year!

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arcarsenal : 2/19/2019 9:08 am : link
In comment 14299789 Jints in Carolina said:
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In comment 14299787 arcarsenal said:


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Yikes.



The good news is I bet the Memphis Express who drew less than 9k move to Raleigh next year!


You'd probably get 50 yard line seats right near the field with ease!
RE: I can see them running low on cash  
bradshaw44 : 2/19/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14299775 jcn56 said:
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but in week 2? Don't these guys have accountants?


Accountants? Who the hell is the CFO? This guy needs to be replaced. How does he sign off on a launch of a product when funding will run out the second week after launch? The accountants just record the transactions.
This sounds like what happened when “The Situation”  
Chris684 : 2/19/2019 9:26 am : link
opened up a couple tanning salons in New Jersey.
Internal Auditors are the accountants in the AAF that could be  
bradshaw44 : 2/19/2019 9:31 am : link
questioned. But do they have internal auditors at this point? Because they should have deemed this venture non viable. It is not a going concern if they need $250 mil after the second week to make payroll. And still in the end they would report to the CFO.
I have a feeling this won't happen to Vince McMahon and the XFL  
Jints in Carolina : 2/19/2019 9:33 am : link
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Talk about throwing good money after bad.  
Boy Cord : 2/19/2019 9:44 am : link
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Wonder how they got the investment.  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/19/2019 9:47 am : link
Look for the Atlanta franchise to fold or move  
ij_reilly : 2/19/2019 9:55 am : link
I would be shocked if the Atlanta franchise was around next year. I guess it will make it through the year. But then again, based on this news, maybe not.

The team is a mess, with the HC quitting before the season started.

They are playing in a stadium (former Braves stadium) that was never particularly well liked. It's a bit difficult to access. No public transportation to the stadium.

Aaron Murray isn't starting. They need to play former UGA players to attract a crowd. Nobody in Atlanta gives a crap about Matt Simms.

They are competing against Atlanta United MLS, which is absolutely huge in Atlanta. Home opener for Atlanta United is March 10 (vamos).

AAF is toast in Atlanta. Nobody is going to attend. I watched most of the first game and quickly decided I wasn't buying tickets.
RE: I have a feeling this won't happen to Vince McMahon and the XFL  
djstat : 2/19/2019 9:55 am : link
In comment 14299826 Jints in Carolina said:
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Agreed
I predict  
djstat : 2/19/2019 9:56 am : link
The league does not survive year 1 without additional major funding.
The games were fun to watch  
RobCrossRiver56 : 2/19/2019 10:14 am : link

But the stadiums were mostly empty. Maybe moving some of the teams closer to bigger markets. Here in NY the closest team is 850 miles away
RE: The games were fun to watch  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/19/2019 10:37 am : link
In comment 14299864 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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But the stadiums were mostly empty. Maybe moving some of the teams closer to bigger markets. Here in NY the closest team is 850 miles away


I couldn't find the games this past weekend. I didn't feel like asking Alexa or typing it in my phone, and my life went on.
I read an article  
Gman11 : 2/19/2019 10:56 am : link
(forgot where) that said that prices for attending games were at an NFL level. From concessions to parking to ticket prices they were pretty expensive. That's not the way to attract people to a minor league game.
RE: I read an article  
Jints in Carolina : 2/19/2019 11:01 am : link
In comment 14299920 Gman11 said:
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(forgot where) that said that prices for attending games were at an NFL level. From concessions to parking to ticket prices they were pretty expensive. That's not the way to attract people to a minor league game.


I went on the website last week for shits and giggles to look at ticket prices. I was dumbfounded. 100 bucks a ticket for good seats.
something  
Steve in Greenwich : 2/19/2019 11:21 am : link
tells me this headline / story is a little BS. I wouldn't be the list bit surprised if the 250 mil investment was already negotiated and known about, the Carolina Hurricanes owner basically committed to be an investor but had a fail safe in place in case the league bombed out the gate. Basically if no one showed up and viewership was nil the league may have folded after week one, but since ratings were solid the investment was made to keep the league rolling. No one is that much of an idiot that they can't project a week out in advance to know they are going to go bankrupt. That's just lunacy when you have such big players / TV deals in place.
RE: Internal Auditors are the accountants in the AAF that could be  
Mike from Ohio : 2/19/2019 11:40 am : link
In comment 14299824 bradshaw44 said:
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questioned. But do they have internal auditors at this point? Because they should have deemed this venture non viable. It is not a going concern if they need $250 mil after the second week to make payroll. And still in the end they would report to the CFO.


Why would the AAF have internal auditors, and why would internal auditors have been the ones who should have noted there was not enough money to run the league for more than two weeks?
Wait a minute  
Matt in SGS : 2/19/2019 12:19 pm : link
you say we can make more money if the AAF is a flop after 2 weeks instead of a hit?

I was waiting for something  
bluetothegrave : 2/19/2019 12:24 pm : link
For years now I have thought Bill Polian to be a complete and utter moron. Everytime he opens up his mouth I can't believe that this tool was once upon a time a respected and succesful GM.

The AAF is his baby. Being the degenerate football junkie I am I have watched most of the games and actually liked this weeks games. However I am not at all surprised that something Bill Polian is the founder or and CEO of is immediately and shockingly in trouble.

250 million? in week 2? Hilarious. Only a schmuck like Polian would get into such financial trouble so early.
I watched the Apollos - Commandeers game on Sunday  
allstarjim : 2/19/2019 1:38 pm : link
And it was pretty good football, and an exciting game...a good watch. However, I think the fact you can only rush 5 against the QB is so dumb and negatively impacts the product.
Just to clarify one point  
ron mexico : 2/19/2019 2:11 pm : link
Just because they took $250 mil, doesn't mean that they needed that much money.

I read that players earn 75k a year.

50 players on a team, 8 teams. That comes to 30 mil for the entire payroll for the league for the year for the players.
Coaches and other staff will add to that figure, but not likely to the tune of $220 mil.

Please correct me if I have something wrong.
or what  
ron mexico : 2/19/2019 2:13 pm : link
Steve in greenwich said
I never even heard of the AFF  
short lease : 2/19/2019 4:19 pm : link
Until 2 days ago when it was reported that Kapernick wants 100 million to play in the league...?
I never even heard of the AAF until  
giantsFC : 2/20/2019 11:11 am : link
This post.

The XFL is the one I felt comfortable with giving a chance as at least it has had some solid planning and marketing already. This other one sounds like a beer league w former blow hards or divas coaching.

These idiot meathead sports people who think 2 mediocre startup football leagues coming in around the same time is a good idea baffles me.
RE: I never even heard of the AFF  
Mad Mike : 2/20/2019 11:16 am : link
In comment 14300338 short lease said:
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Until 2 days ago when it was reported that Kapernick wants 100 million to play in the league...?

Sounds like you still haven't heard much about it.
RE: RE: I never even heard of the AFF  
giantsFC : 2/20/2019 5:18 pm : link
In comment 14300777 Mad Mike said:
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In comment 14300338 short lease said:


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Until 2 days ago when it was reported that Kapernick wants 100 million to play in the league...?


Sounds like you still haven't heard much about it.


And neither has 99.9% of sports fans apparently. So your sarcasm fail wins the day.
It's possible this story  
BUgiantfan : 2/20/2019 11:48 pm : link
is an attempt by the XFL to smear the league.
Leave it to Vince McMahon to create drama. - ( New Window )
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