The deal covers mostly prime years for Machado and they are loaded with prospects. They made a move to smarten up their front office with analytic gurus and that team is really on the up swing. Too bad they didn't listen to their analytic guys on the Hosmer deal though.
Safer sport, guaranteed contracts, his size isn't a factor in MLB.
That simply isnt true. Murray would have to be an above average MLB player and wait until hes a FA to make big money. Or get lucky and get good arbitration money.
If he goes #1 overall he will have close to $35m guaranteed (8x his MLB signing bonus). If he plays well and doesnt get hurt he will likely look for an extension year 4 for starter money. The money just isnt close in the short term and in the long term hed make a big contract sooner in the NFL.
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My dude @TBrownYahoo was first with the five-year opt-out clause for Manny Machado.
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Manny Machado's deal, as @Feinsand first reported, is for 10 years and $300 million with an opt-out after the fifth season.
A monumental deal -- the single biggest free agent contract in American sports history.
And now every eye in baseball turns to Bryce Harper. His move.
increasing there current payroll 32% ($94M to $123M) for one player is the answer for a small market team. A small market team currently loaded with great young talent everywhere.
increasing there current payroll 32% ($94M to $123M) for one player is the answer for a small market team. A small market team currently loaded with great young talent everywhere.
Good luck Manny hitting in that ballpark!
Something people might be overlooking is that the Padres have a boatload of very high end prospects who are just about to join the big league club- at almost every position.
Fernando Tatis Jr at SS. Mejia at C. Urias at 2B. They also have a whole bunch of OF. They have Hosmer at 1B (not great, but not bad either).
The one position they did not have depth at- 3B. Welcome Machado.
This is a team that in 3 years, has the potential to be a powerhouse- and on the cheap- Machado's big cost will be offset by having a bunch of guys on minimum salary coming up over the next couple of years.
Tatis, Mejia, Urias...they need to be good players but they are all ready to make the jump. With the sluggers they already have on the ML roster like Myers, Renfroe, Margot, and I like Hosmer a lot too...it will all come down to pitching. They have a lot of young pitchers. But you put Machado in the middle of that lineup, I think that's really going to help those other guys, especially whoever bats in front of him.
I also think he was rushed. He had half a year in AA when the Sox traded him and he went almost immediately into the Padres starting lineup. Was always a leadoff type, OBP plus speed.
that I'll believe Manny ISN'T signing with the Yankees when I see it. Well, I see it. Not that I'm disappointed at those numbers, but I'm still adjusting to the new ways the Yankees do business.
at an elite level or close to it. But they've got Hosmer and Myers under contract for the next few years. Their pitching sucks and their elite pitching prospects, while promising, mostly finished the year in A-Ball (with a couple of exceptions). They're probably looking at 2-3 years of muddling along before they're competitive.
With the sluggers they already have on the ML roster like Myers, Renfroe, Margot, and I like Hosmer a lot too
Myers and Hosmer are rather mediocre. Margot was highly touted but didn't exactly set the world on fire as a rookie (.245/.292/.385 in 141 games).
The Padres do have a bunch of hyped prospects but it remains to be seen how many of them pan out.
I followed Margot a little and liked him as lot when he was a Sox prospect. He never was a slugger.
My context wasn't slugger = power hitter. He's young, if he improves as he gets more big league service time, then good for the Pads. If he doesn't, they have enough good bets in the system and at the big league level that they should be able to have at least an above average NL lineup, which is all I was saying...it's going to come down to their pitching. They weren't very good last year, in particular their starting pitching was really bad.
is there anyone happier right now (other than the Machados)
The last time the Padres were in the playoffs, their attendance was 6-700,000 fans higher than this past season. That is worth consevatively another $30,000,000-$35,000,000 in revenue. And let's not mention ad revenue from radio and tv.
If Machado puts asses in the seats and advertisers on tv and radio, this contract will be a nothing.
with a large Spanish-speaking population to have a star fluent in Spanish, but I'm not sure Machado, who is of Dominican heritage, is going to have the same impact that, say, Fernando Valenzuela did with Mexican-Americans in the LA market. It helps, but I don't know that it helps THAT much.
That would be my guess. They're desperate to add some pop to their lineup and now that their division rival bit first they need to make a move. Last year Pac-Bell park was half empty many days. California fans have short memories. They need to do something.
The Giants had the 4th best attendance in baseball...
both in terms of total and %. That roster is awful right now, and adding Harper to it on a long term deal isn't going to suddenly make them competitive. That would be a terrible decision.
That would be my guess. They're desperate to add some pop to their lineup and now that their division rival bit first they need to make a move. Last year Pac-Bell park was half empty many days. California fans have short memories. They need to do something.
I thought the Giants were only interested in a short term high average deal? That aint happening now, not that i think it ever would have
RE: The Giants had the 4th best attendance in baseball...
both in terms of total and %. That roster is awful right now, and adding Harper to it on a long term deal isn't going to suddenly make them competitive. That would be a terrible decision.
Actually it was the 5th best, but I was surprised to see that. The joint only holds 40,000 people and believe me they weren't getting 38,000 + on most days. There must have been an awful lot of no shows.
But I see my mistake. ESPN had them at 4th for per game and % full. The only reason the Cubs were higher on total number of butts in the seats is because they had an extra home game (the Dodgers did too, but their per game was higher anyway).
Safer sport, guaranteed contracts, his size isn't a factor in MLB.
That simply isnt true. Murray would have to be an above average MLB player and wait until hes a FA to make big money. Or get lucky and get good arbitration money.
If he goes #1 overall he will have close to $35m guaranteed (8x his MLB signing bonus). If he plays well and doesnt get hurt he will likely look for an extension year 4 for starter money. The money just isnt close in the short term and in the long term hed make a big contract sooner in the NFL.
yeah your statements are true but I dont understand what the point is. Hed make more guaranteed money as the 1st pick than he would in possibly his entire MLB career. Tons of flameout MLB prospects never get the big payday. Yes its safer, but he clearly has more fun playing QB (which must count for something) and will be far richer, far sooner most likely.
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Last I checked 30>25.
Stanton wasn't a free agent.
Stanton wasn't a free agent so he doesn't make that list. Machado got the highest for a free agent.
That simply isnt true. Murray would have to be an above average MLB player and wait until hes a FA to make big money. Or get lucky and get good arbitration money.
If he goes #1 overall he will have close to $35m guaranteed (8x his MLB signing bonus). If he plays well and doesnt get hurt he will likely look for an extension year 4 for starter money. The money just isnt close in the short term and in the long term hed make a big contract sooner in the NFL.
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And they signed Hosmer to a big contract last year. They do have a core of young players so maybe they are ready to go for it all.
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Manny Machado's deal, as @Feinsand first reported, is for 10 years and $300 million with an opt-out after the fifth season.
A monumental deal -- the single biggest free agent contract in American sports history.
And now every eye in baseball turns to Bryce Harper. His move.
Good luck Manny hitting in that ballpark!
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so fast that he needed a second post to actually give the reporters details...
Or I just forgot and didnt feel like dealing with everyone screaming SOURCE?!
Weird, your sign-up date doesn't overlap with Radar's time here. Forget "SOURCE?!", how about "ORIGINAL HANDLE?!"
Good luck Manny hitting in that ballpark!
Something people might be overlooking is that the Padres have a boatload of very high end prospects who are just about to join the big league club- at almost every position.
Fernando Tatis Jr at SS. Mejia at C. Urias at 2B. They also have a whole bunch of OF. They have Hosmer at 1B (not great, but not bad either).
The one position they did not have depth at- 3B. Welcome Machado.
This is a team that in 3 years, has the potential to be a powerhouse- and on the cheap- Machado's big cost will be offset by having a bunch of guys on minimum salary coming up over the next couple of years.
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so fast that he needed a second post to actually give the reporters details...
Or I just forgot and didnt feel like dealing with everyone screaming SOURCE?!
Weird, your sign-up date doesn't overlap with Radar's time here. Forget "SOURCE?!", how about "ORIGINAL HANDLE?!"
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Report: #Yankees never made formal offer to San Diego-bound Manny Machado. (link: https://bit.ly/2NgyOLu) bit.ly/2NgyOLu
Oh well.
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Oh well.
Hal is no George.
Myers and Hosmer are rather mediocre. Margot was highly touted but didn't exactly set the world on fire as a rookie (.245/.292/.385 in 141 games).
The Padres do have a bunch of hyped prospects but it remains to be seen how many of them pan out.
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With the sluggers they already have on the ML roster like Myers, Renfroe, Margot, and I like Hosmer a lot too
Myers and Hosmer are rather mediocre. Margot was highly touted but didn't exactly set the world on fire as a rookie (.245/.292/.385 in 141 games).
The Padres do have a bunch of hyped prospects but it remains to be seen how many of them pan out.
I followed Margot a little and liked him as lot when he was a Sox prospect. He never was a slugger.
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With the sluggers they already have on the ML roster like Myers, Renfroe, Margot, and I like Hosmer a lot too
Myers and Hosmer are rather mediocre. Margot was highly touted but didn't exactly set the world on fire as a rookie (.245/.292/.385 in 141 games).
The Padres do have a bunch of hyped prospects but it remains to be seen how many of them pan out.
I followed Margot a little and liked him as lot when he was a Sox prospect. He never was a slugger.
My context wasn't slugger = power hitter. He's young, if he improves as he gets more big league service time, then good for the Pads. If he doesn't, they have enough good bets in the system and at the big league level that they should be able to have at least an above average NL lineup, which is all I was saying...it's going to come down to their pitching. They weren't very good last year, in particular their starting pitching was really bad.
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Report: #Yankees never made formal offer to San Diego-bound Manny Machado. (link: https://bit.ly/2NgyOLu) bit.ly/2NgyOLu
Oh well.
Once upon a time, lots of fans whines about how unfair it is the Yanks overpay for so many players.
Now the Yanks choose not to overpay a player, and lots of fans and people in the media have actually been complaining how the Yankees are being cheap
+1
At this price, I am more than happy to pass and have him leave the ALE in the process.
If this is what Harper is going to cost - and there's no reason why he won't since the table is now set - I'd hope NYY would pass on him as well.
Maneuvering with Stanton's deal is going to be enough to worry about. No need to pile another one of those on top.
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To retain all their upcoming free agents. Granted Bogaerts isnt nearly as good but hes now probably a $20M a year player. And Betts probably $35M
+1
Glad the Yankees did not get him - want to see what Andujar does this year.
Now Harper, that's another story.
Padres will be pleased.
Great young player through the prime of his career.
Glad the Yankees did not get him - want to see what Andujar does this year.
Now Harper, that's another story.
The Pads are also the only major sport franchise in town now, so there's incentive for the public support to coalesce.
If Machado puts asses in the seats and advertisers on tv and radio, this contract will be a nothing.
I think Judge will sign a nice extension by next year. In this market no player wants hit free agency when they or in the wrong side of 30.
I thought the Giants were only interested in a short term high average deal? That aint happening now, not that i think it ever would have
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Safer sport, guaranteed contracts, his size isn't a factor in MLB.
That simply isnt true. Murray would have to be an above average MLB player and wait until hes a FA to make big money. Or get lucky and get good arbitration money.
If he goes #1 overall he will have close to $35m guaranteed (8x his MLB signing bonus). If he plays well and doesnt get hurt he will likely look for an extension year 4 for starter money. The money just isnt close in the short term and in the long term hed make a big contract sooner in the NFL.
Nothing I said isn't true.
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Report: #Yankees never made formal offer to San Diego-bound Manny Machado. (link: https://bit.ly/2NgyOLu) bit.ly/2NgyOLu
Oh well.
Didnt they offer him Taco Bell when he visited?
In order to determine the California source income of a nonresident team sport athlete, the "duty day" method should be used.
3. What is the duty day method?
A "duty day" is defined as "any day services are performed under the contract from the beginning of an official preseason activity until the last game played". The "duty days" in California are then divided by the total "duty days" to create a ratio. This ratio is then multiplied by the total compensation. This then is deemed to be the California source income.
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so fast that he needed a second post to actually give the reporters details...
Or I just forgot and didnt feel like dealing with everyone screaming SOURCE?!
Weird, your sign-up date doesn't overlap with Radar's time here. Forget "SOURCE?!", how about "ORIGINAL HANDLE?!"
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