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S Landon Collins knows he won't be back?

Anakim : 2/20/2019 2:16 pm
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Im told that Giants S Landon Collins cleaned out his locker today at the team facility and said his goodbyes to teammates, coaches and trainers. It doesnt seem like Collins expects to be a Giant for much longer, per sources.
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RE: it doesn't make sense  
The_Boss : 2/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14301191 GiantsFan84 said:
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why would they not have traded him for a 3rd at the deadline then? the best they can hope for is an end of the 3rd round comp pick next year, so if they weren't going to bring him back they should have traded him and got an earlier pick


Stellar GMing by DG if this is how it plays out.
RE: If you tag him  
Diver_Down : 2/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14301206 Bill L said:
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can't you rescind it whenever?


So long as it is unsigned. Collins puts ink to paper and it is guaranteed. Any tag needs to be rescinded in order to be considered for comp picks next year. Rob and I had discussed the possibilities in an earlier thread. And I feel the best course of action is the Transition Tag. Force Collins to determine his market value. It also forces Collins to prove that he is healthy as no offer sheet would be extended unless he can pass a physical for an interested team. We would have the right to match the offer. If we don't match, then we rescind the tag and wish Collins luck.
So, more fake news from ESPN  
ZogZerg : 2/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
LOL
RE: .  
dank41 : 2/20/2019 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14301227 Danny Kanell said:
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Josina Anderson is the absolute fucking worst.


Indeed. Get her far away from this organization.
Shall I delete?  
Anakim : 2/20/2019 3:14 pm : link
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RE: Shall I delete?  
Diver_Down : 2/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14301254 Anakim said:
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Might as well. It will just lead to rampant speculation.
RE: Franchise tag is about 12 million  
djstat : 2/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14301153 ZogZerg said:
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for a safety
Defense has so many holes, perhaps the idea of tying up $12 million to a safety is not something DG thinks makes sense.
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dank41 : 2/20/2019 3:16 pm : link
David Diehl is refuting her report, says he was getting therapy and didn't clean out locker.

F this B.
How can she still be employed?  
UConn4523 : 2/20/2019 3:17 pm : link
shes Fucking horrendous.
RE: RE: Some of the young Giants  
JonC : 2/20/2019 3:17 pm : link
In comment 14301224 Diver_Down said:
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seem to trust her to get their message out there.



I know she led the way when Collins and Apple were exchanging pleasantries during Ben's last year.


She was also sourcing stuff from OB before his got the new deal.
RE: RE: Shall I delete?  
Anakim : 2/20/2019 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14301255 Diver_Down said:
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Might as well. It will just lead to rampant speculation.


Only thing is she's doubling down


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@RVacchianoSNY @NYPost_Schwartz I stand by what I said. Let's see if he returns to grab whatever is *leftover* in his locker anytime soon.
WFAN  
BIG FRED 1973 : 2/20/2019 3:18 pm : link
has not stopped talking about it for over an hour lol .And JJ goes the Giants will never get back to the promised land .Wow coming from a Dolphins fan who has not been to a super bowl in 35 years .
a real reporter has chimed in  
Steve in Greenwich : 2/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
not just ESPN's resident hack / shit stirrer

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On #Giants S Landon Collins and @JosinaAndersons report, I gather he took personal items from his locker. He doesnt expect to be at the facility for a while. Why? The franchise tag he publicly said he doesnt want. But the smart money remains on Collins with NYG this year.
CNN's gonna turn around and go home now....  
Britt in VA : 2/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
Omg she was right  
Ssanders9816 : 2/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
Collins The stuff in that locker that I have left I do not need💯
RE: a real reporter has chimed in  
Matt in SGS : 2/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14301266 Steve in Greenwich said:
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not just ESPN's resident hack / shit stirrer

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On #Giants S Landon Collins and @JosinaAndersons report, I gather he took personal items from his locker. He doesnt expect to be at the facility for a while. Why? The franchise tag he publicly said he doesnt want. But the smart money remains on Collins with NYG this year.


So...it sounds like the larger likelyhood is that Collins doesn't want the franchise tag. The Giants organization doesn't really care what he thinks because they will abide by the rules of the CBA and will do what they want and tag him. So he's pissed and walks out.

Sounds like Brandon Jacobs a few years back.

And the Giants eventually negotiated a long term deal with him. Which is what will probably happen here.

Anderson is a shit stirrer, but she seems to have direct contact with these athletes and gets their viewpoint out there. Again, the Giants and Collins will likely come to terms on a deal sometime in mid March.
RE: CNN's gonna turn around and go home now....  
weaverpsu : 2/20/2019 3:27 pm : link
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Huh?
I hate even fucking looking at her  
chopperhatch : 2/20/2019 3:27 pm : link
With her ridiculous outfits and the make up she puts on with a paint roller. She fucking sucks.
Not Good...  
Big Blue Hokie : 2/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
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The stuff in that locker that I have left I do not need💯

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For posterity here is what Jacobs said in 2009  
Matt in SGS : 2/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
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I would be angry and it probably would cause some problems but its nothing we couldnt deal with, Jacobs said back on January 29 in Tampa. I dont anticipate that at all.


Well, the Giants tagged him anyway a few weeks later

And then he said this:

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A deal is going to be done and I am confident in that fact that a deal is going to be done, said Jacobs, who turns 27 on July 6 and this past season rushed for a career-high 1,089 yards. They just didnt want to let me hit the market to see what else is out there. Now if I didnt want to be here I would be going off the deep end now, but that is not the fact because I want to be here.


Ho hum...all part of the negotiating process.
RE: I hate even fucking looking at her  
Anakim : 2/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14301284 chopperhatch said:
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With her ridiculous outfits and the make up she puts on with a paint roller. She fucking sucks.



She needs to lay off the plastic surgery for sure
Josina  
bluepepper : 2/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
like her or hate her but she has sources. Players talk to her.
There is nothing to see here....  
Britt in VA : 2/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
this is standard negotiation tactic.

He doesn't want the tag, he wants a long term deal.

If the Giants want him, this will get worked out.
RE: I hate even fucking looking at her  
BIG FRED 1973 : 2/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14301284 chopperhatch said:
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With her ridiculous outfits and the make up she puts on with a paint roller. She fucking sucks.
LMFAO ,She used to be hot a few years ago when she covered the broncos but now i agree she seems fake
First rate journalism  
ghost718 : 2/20/2019 3:32 pm : link
The type only ESPN can provide
RE: Collins  
Blue21 : 2/20/2019 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14301174 JonC said:
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for Russell Wilson. Do it.



Oh yes...please make this happen.
RE: Josina  
Diver_Down : 2/20/2019 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14301293 bluepepper said:
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like her or hate her but she has sources. Players talk to her.


And this coincides with what Jon and I said earlier. It would be best for the Giants organization to identify those players that she is connected to and ship them out. Her being associated in any way with those players is a festering cancer. She only deals in the divisive and negative news.
RE: RE: Josina  
bluepepper : 2/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14301311 Diver_Down said:
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like her or hate her but she has sources. Players talk to her.



And this coincides with what Jon and I said earlier. It would be best for the Giants organization to identify those players that she is connected to and ship them out. Her being associated in any way with those players is a festering cancer. She only deals in the divisive and negative news.

You're going to target a reporter and banish everyone who talks to her? Good luck with that one.
RE: RE: RE: Josina  
Diver_Down : 2/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
In comment 14301325 bluepepper said:
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like her or hate her but she has sources. Players talk to her.



And this coincides with what Jon and I said earlier. It would be best for the Giants organization to identify those players that she is connected to and ship them out. Her being associated in any way with those players is a festering cancer. She only deals in the divisive and negative news.


You're going to target a reporter and banish everyone who talks to her? Good luck with that one.


She should be treated as persona not grata. Those that want to use her as a source should be made a public example. OBJ wants to buddy up to her? Make it public and ship him off to Buffalo to waste his prime years away. Others will toe the line.
RE: This just in  
santacruzom : 2/20/2019 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14301223 Rjanyg said:
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Josina Anderson is dog shit in a flaming paper bag.


But in this case, a correct dog shit in a flaming paper bag.
So many personal attacks on a reporter  
Default : 2/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
for simply doing their job...
RE: RE: RE: RE: Josina  
Mad Mike : 2/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14301335 Diver_Down said:
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She should be treated as persona not grata. Those that want to use her as a source should be made a public example. OBJ wants to buddy up to her? Make it public and ship him off to Buffalo to waste his prime years away. Others will toe the line.

Making roster decisions based on which reporters players speak with would certainly be a new and different approach.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Josina  
Diver_Down : 2/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14301358 Mad Mike said:
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In comment 14301335 Diver_Down said:


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She should be treated as persona not grata. Those that want to use her as a source should be made a public example. OBJ wants to buddy up to her? Make it public and ship him off to Buffalo to waste his prime years away. Others will toe the line.


Making roster decisions based on which reporters players speak with would certainly be a new and different approach.


It would be unheard of, but if we are to give credence to building a team with high character guys and focus on team chemistry, you can't allow someone of her ilk to continually divide the team. Cut the cancer out.
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Mike from Ohio : 2/20/2019 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14301366 Diver_Down said:
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She should be treated as persona not grata. Those that want to use her as a source should be made a public example. OBJ wants to buddy up to her? Make it public and ship him off to Buffalo to waste his prime years away. Others will toe the line.


Making roster decisions based on which reporters players speak with would certainly be a new and different approach.



It would be unheard of, but if we are to give credence to building a team with high character guys and focus on team chemistry, you can't allow someone of her ilk to continually divide the team. Cut the cancer out.


Yeah, the NFL would sit idly by while one of its team's cut every player who speaks to a credentialed reporter from a major news outlet...one the NFL has a broadcast contract with.

That idea is a lot more anger than it is sense.
RE: Some of the young Giants  
AcesUp : 2/20/2019 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14301151 JonC said:
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seem to trust her to get their message out there.


+1. She's plugged in on the Giants player side for sure and doing her part in some quid pro quo here. Collins is negotiating.
All to do  
Beer Man : 2/20/2019 4:39 pm : link
with nothing.
RE: So many personal attacks on a reporter  
HomerJones45 : 2/20/2019 4:55 pm : link
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for simply doing their job...
Exactly. Vacchiano and Garafolo have had their wtf moments too. What's the big deal here?
I will miss Collins...  
bw in dc : 2/20/2019 5:19 pm : link
He was one of my favorite current players.

But his game doesn't suit today's demands of the S position. I think the SS is becoming extinct. What a team really needs is two FSs who can run and cover. That should be the direction of this team...
RE: The story made no sense.......  
ColHowPepper : 2/20/2019 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14301228 Simms11 said:
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I dont see the Giants just letting him walk. Hes one of the best STrong Safeties in the league. Excellent tackler and good in the box safety. Yea his coverage skills need work, but hes still a fantastic Strong Safety. If we have to fill that void, it would be just another hole in this roster!
Sorry, he can't be a fantastic SS if his play is one-dimensional. Yes, he is a very good tackler and good in the box. But he absolutely sucks in coverage if that's what you mean by 'need work'. LC's play is a finished product, not going to expand his skill set significantly at this stage.
RE: RE: So many personal attacks on a reporter  
elgoman : 2/20/2019 10:10 pm : link
In comment 14301434 HomerJones45 said:
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for simply doing their job...

Exactly. Vacchiano and Garafolo have had their wtf moments too. What's the big deal here?


Agreed. Josina is just doing her job. Her reporting is informative and accurate. Vacchiano and Garafolo have done the same thing throughout, and don't get half the hateful criticism from the knuckle draggers here.
This talk is pure nonsense ....  
Manny in CA : 2/20/2019 11:56 pm : link

Collin is a young ALL PRO. Any defense is the sum of it's parts. The 2016 defense was very good because it had a lot of outstanding players - DRC, Jenkins, Snacks etc.

The defense today is depleted. You don't throw good young talent overboard. Maybe Vernon has seen his best days, maybe it makes more sense to dump him (or not)

Dollar-wise, as much as I love Eli, we know he's seen his best days. First round flops like Pugh & Flowers - good riddance; proven young talent like Collins & OBJ, they are keepers.
Manny - yeah you do if that talent  
Dave on the UWS : 2/21/2019 7:03 am : link
doesnt fit what you want to do. Gettleman has routinely said you build from the inside out. Tying up money in the defensive backfield is NOT his motis operandi. I think they try to sign him but he will want a LOT more than they will want to pay.
It's basically a tantrum by LC  
JonC : 2/21/2019 8:31 am : link
He wants an extension, not a tag, so he walked out.
Where is Landon Collins at in his rehab from his shoulder surgery?  
Big_Pete : 2/21/2019 8:52 am : link
I can completely understand if Collins is frustrated the Giants haven't been in negotiations for the lucrative, long-term contract he wants and arguably deserves.

The Giants can't invest a ton of money in a player unless they are sure where that player is medically.

I expect the Giants will put the franchise tag on Collins and work on a long term deal once he checks out medically.

This is very similar to the Beckham contract/injury situation last offseason.
RE: It's basically a tantrum by LC  
Ssanders9816 : 2/21/2019 8:55 am : link
In comment 14301898 JonC said:
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He wants an extension, not a tag, so he walked out.


In a sense yes, but also like Stapleton said it was just Baggy Day 2.0 for him and nothing more. He doesnt know if he will be back, so why wouldnt he clean out his locker?
RE: RE: It's basically a tantrum by LC  
Diver_Down : 2/21/2019 9:03 am : link
In comment 14301929 Ssanders9816 said:
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He wants an extension, not a tag, so he walked out.



In a sense yes, but also like Stapleton said it was just Baggy Day 2.0 for him and nothing more. He doesnt know if he will be back, so why wouldnt he clean out his locker?


It wasn't mentioned in yesterday's threads, but it was on NFL Network stating that Collins is expecting the tag, but will not sign it. The locker clean-out 2.0 is telegraphing that he intends to sit out the off-season and workout away from the facility. Speculation is that he might even sit out training camp. Of course, DG will not be patient. He has shown the willingness to rescind the tag when dealing with Norman in Carolina. If this process gets dragged out past July, DG very well might pull the tag and let Collins latch on to another team late in the summer.
Garafolo providing some clarity on LC  
Strahan91 : 2/21/2019 1:59 pm : link
It sounds like he'll be a Giant next year whether it's on the tag or on a new deal
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Garafolo providing some clarity on LC  
Rjanyg : 2/21/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14302457 Strahan91 said:
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It sounds like he'll be a Giant next year whether it's on the tag or on a new deal Link - ( New Window )


He will be a Giant. He has to....I bought my son a Collins jersey just 2 years ago ; )
Manny - yeah you do if that talent  
Dave on the UWS : 2/21/2019 7:18 pm : link
doesnt fit what you want to do. Gettleman has routinely said you build from the inside out. Tying up money in the defensive backfield is NOT his motis operandi. I think they try to sign him but he will want a LOT more than they will want to pay.
Manny - yeah you do if that talent  
Dave on the UWS : 2/21/2019 7:18 pm : link
doesnt fit what you want to do. Gettleman has routinely said you build from the inside out. Tying up money in the defensive backfield is NOT his motis operandi. I think they try to sign him but he will want a LOT more than they will want to pay.
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