With all the Landon Collins chatter, I have to admit, if given the choice, I'd rather target Barr. 6'5" and 255. Excellent pass rusher (although wasn't used in that capacity enough). Seemingly ideal for Bettcher's D. Still only 26.
Then go FA for a proven OL body for the right side. Forget these devlopmentals who who never seem to develop for us until Herenandez came along. The Flowers nightmare is fresh in my mind still. Get a job offer yet JR or Reese ? Thought not. MO.
What if we let Collins walk and pursue Jadaveon Clowney instead? He will cost some dough, but he is young and an excellent passrusher who could play DE in a 3-4. He would be more valuable than Collins. But he would also cost more money.
That said I think he's been just decent so far as a pro. Has underperformed his Draft slot imo. When yousay he's a pass rusher but his team didn't 'use him' that way it doesn't make sense. They don't like getting pressure? Or is it that when he's been asked to rush he hasn't gotten home enough to warrant using him as a primary rusher. That seems more likely to me.
In comment 14301671 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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What if we let Collins walk and pursue Jadaveon Clowney instead? He will cost some dough, but he is young and an excellent passrusher who could play DE in a 3-4. He would be more valuable than Collins. But he would also cost more money.
1. Better run defender than pass rusher
2. Will get more money than Vernon on the open market.
Not worth the money that the Giants won’t have to compete w Colts, Jets, Texans, Bills, etc.
Is a guy they need to target. Looked very good in Bettcher's D prior to his injury. Played out out of position as a DE last year so he didn't have a great season. Much better fit as a OLB and can probably be had relatively cheap.
I'd love to add to the defense, but any big money will probably go to the OL.
Does he get paid like a LB or DE (i.e. Edge Rusher)???
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I shouldn't say that. Vernon is a much better pass rusher and more dominate player. Just wish he wasn't paid so much.
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I feel like this scheme just advertises mediocrity and pedestrian. Whats the point of spending big bucks on FA?
I feel like this scheme just advertises mediocrity and pedestrian. Whats the point of spending big bucks on FA?
That’s what I’m beginning to wonder. What is Bettcher looking for?!
I wasn't impressed with his pass coverage in the limited amount I saw him. I could be wrong.
Where would you look at playing him in Bettcher's system? OLB or ILB next to Ogeltree?
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Something this team lacks.
I wasn't impressed with his pass coverage in the limited amount I saw him. I could be wrong.
He’s the kind of player that if you use him right he’s lethal and if you don’t he disappears.
Pass on him unless his price drops significantly.
1. Better run defender than pass rusher
2. Will get more money than Vernon on the open market.
Not worth the money that the Giants won’t have to compete w Colts, Jets, Texans, Bills, etc.
He'll get money he's not quite worth. Just like Vernon.