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NFT: Mets: And so it begins...

giantsFC : 2/20/2019 5:22 pm
I mean its not even day 1 yet. Glad they let Wilmer go for someone older w knee issues.

FTW.
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im not a negative fan...  
Italianju : 2/20/2019 5:32 pm : link
and i try not to kill the mets too much. But when you go out and sign guys in there 30's then you cant be surprised when this stuff happens. I mean for once they at least have some depth, but its frustrating to spend the money on these guys just to watch them regress or play banged up.
Jeff McNeil  
NYG27 : 2/20/2019 5:40 pm : link
If Jed Lowrie is down for an extended period, I think McNeil automatically picks up the slack and frees up room in the Outfield also.

One thing the Mets have this year is depth.
Lowrie signing never really made sense to me  
Vanzetti : 2/20/2019 8:13 pm : link
It basically pushed McNeil out of the lineup and Lowrie is a prime candidate to regress

20 million could have been better spent on Gio or another bullpen arm
RE: Lowrie signing never really made sense to me  
dank41 : 2/20/2019 8:41 pm : link
In comment 14301614 Vanzetti said:
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It basically pushed McNeil out of the lineup and Lowrie is a prime candidate to regress

20 million could have been better spent on Gio or another bullpen arm


Agreed. Hope I am wrong but I feel like Brody is the type to make moves just to appease fan demands.

Jed Lowrie is a nice luxury at this point.  
81_Great_Dane : 2/20/2019 8:44 pm : link
He's not a key to anything (yet). If the guy needing the MRI was Robinson Cano, or Michael Conforto, or Brandon Nimmo, or Amed Rosario, or Peter Alonso, or any of the starting pitchers, or Diaz, or Familia, then I'd be more worried.
Sign. Valencia  
Shecky : 2/20/2019 9:03 pm : link
To a MiL deal...
RE: Jeff McNeil  
giantsFC : 2/20/2019 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14301477 NYG27 said:
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If Jed Lowrie is down for an extended period, I think McNeil automatically picks up the slack and frees up room in the Outfield also.

One thing the Mets have this year is depth.


At the rate they normally run operations, they wont have any depth in 2 weeks
The Mets roster isnt old  
ZGiants98 : 2/20/2019 10:53 pm : link
The core of its lineup, pen, and rotation is all mostly young, aside from a few exceptions.
RE: Sign. Valencia  
DanMetroMan : 2/20/2019 10:58 pm : link
In comment 14301654 Shecky said:
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To a MiL deal...


Shecky,
Valencia has maybe the worst reputation in baseball
RE: Jed Lowrie is a nice luxury at this point.  
Deejboy : 2/20/2019 11:59 pm : link
In comment 14301641 81_Great_Dane said:
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He's not a key to anything (yet). If the guy needing the MRI was Robinson Cano, or Michael Conforto, or Brandon Nimmo, or Amed Rosario, or Peter Alonso, or any of the starting pitchers, or Diaz, or Familia, then I'd be more worried.

Cano has been extremely durable over his career but it would be a total Mets thing if his breakdown started this year.
RE: RE: Sign. Valencia  
Shecky : 2/21/2019 8:45 am : link
In comment 14301754 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14301654 Shecky said:


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To a MiL deal...



Shecky,
Valencia has maybe the worst reputation in baseball


For knocking out a bitch for talking shit??
RE: Jeff McNeil  
NewFakeDannyHeep : 2/21/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14301477 NYG27 said:
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If Jed Lowrie is down for an extended period, I think McNeil automatically picks up the slack and frees up room in the Outfield also.

One thing the Mets have this year is depth.


Bryce Harper is still available to fill that OF spot :)
RE: RE: RE: Sign. Valencia  
DanMetroMan : 2/21/2019 10:30 am : link
In comment 14301913 Shecky said:
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In comment 14301754 DanMetroMan said:


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In comment 14301654 Shecky said:


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To a MiL deal...



Shecky,
Valencia has maybe the worst reputation in baseball



For knocking out a bitch for talking shit??


First and foremost he's played for 8 teams for a reason.

Blue Jays0"Whats inside a clubhouse and outside a clubhouse so often differs. From the outside, it was easy to indicate the Blue Jays would miss Danny Valencia, the bat lost on waivers to Oakland.

From inside the clubhouse, the opinion is clearly the opposite. Valencia wasnt exactly Mr. Congeniality with Jays players or clubhouse workers."

Royals-


Jeffrey Flanagan

@FlannyMLB
Valencia was not highly regarded in the clubhouse https://twitter.com/krew723/status/767510044292239361


(Valencia) is not a good dude. Theres a reason the Jays punted his ass out of town. It was one of the happiest days of John Gibbons managerial career, because Danny Valencia got the hell out of town.-Jeff Blair
Lowrie being banged up right away is very Mets  
Eric on Li : 2/21/2019 10:31 am : link
but not the hardest injury for them to recover from. As great as his year was last year he is a supporting piece. Mcneil or Frazier (or Davis) can play 3B.

The guy who needs to stay healthy and productive is Cano. He needs to be the stabilizer in the middle of the lineup.

And they need to get JDG on board. He's the first guy in the clubhouse to say he wants to be here long term. You can already hear Thor saying he wants to be here long term but also saying he will not take the deals that Nola/Severino just took. If they truly believe these guys give them a shot at a WS they need to put their money where their mouth is and give them some longer term security so they can fully commit to that cause.
I'm more concerned about the Nimmo  
Metnut : 2/21/2019 10:35 am : link
injury. Weird that he's throwing underhand and has only been in camp for a little while. He has a history of injuries, so let's hope this is only something really minor/precautionary.
I've already moved  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2019 10:42 am : link
on from Lowrie and Nimmo for 2019.

Just need to hope the team takes it's injury lumps early and this is the worst of it.




.......but you know it won't be.
deGroms agents are in camp...  
ZGiants98 : 2/21/2019 10:44 am : link
Hes 100% getting extended.
Lowrie  
Shecky : 2/21/2019 10:44 am : link
Its more than the burst, but the root cause to be concerned about.

Valencia. I want to see negative quotes from someone in the trenches with the kid. That ships sailed anyway lol
Not good-  
DanMetroMan : 2/21/2019 10:49 am : link
When asked if Lowrie feels better when he's rested, he said: "It's one of those things that's been a constant."
Alonso  
DanMetroMan : 2/21/2019 10:49 am : link
now wants to be referred to as Pete.
Im pretty much good with anything other than  
ZGiants98 : 2/21/2019 10:53 am : link
ACL surgery. He can miss a couple months for all I care. I actually want JD Davis, McNeil, etc. to get as many chances as possible early.

Please no ACL though! 🙏
RE: Im pretty much good with anything other than  
Metnut : 2/21/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14302148 ZGiants98 said:
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ACL surgery. He can miss a couple months for all I care. I actually want JD Davis, McNeil, etc. to get as many chances as possible early.

Please no ACL though! 🙏


I thought you liked the Lowrie signing?
I'm just asking that  
Metnut : 2/21/2019 10:57 am : link
because him being out a couple months wouldn't be a good result. He was signed to be an upgrade and to play. If him missing a few months isn't a big deal, then IMO, the money would've been better spent on another pitcher.
RE: Alonso  
Shecky : 2/21/2019 10:57 am : link
In comment 14302141 DanMetroMan said:
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now wants to be referred to as Pete.


Our own. Erosion of Stanton, with thename change lol?

Dans on the right track, unfortunately
RE: RE: Im pretty much good with anything other than  
ZGiants98 : 2/21/2019 11:32 am : link
In comment 14302156 Metnut said:
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In comment 14302148 ZGiants98 said:


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ACL surgery. He can miss a couple months for all I care. I actually want JD Davis, McNeil, etc. to get as many chances as possible early.

Please no ACL though! 🙏



I thought you liked the Lowrie signing?


I do. Love it. But the reason it was great was because it created a lot of depth. Depth we still have. Earlier in a season, I have a no problem watching younger guys get more playing time. It might even be necessary. Depth is unnecessary if everyone stays healthy. Obviously, I dont want to lose Lowrie for the year or anything. I envision him being a grizzled, insanely tough out, in the playoffs or something.
RE: I'm just asking that  
ZGiants98 : 2/21/2019 11:34 am : link
In comment 14302159 Metnut said:
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because him being out a couple months wouldn't be a good result. He was signed to be an upgrade and to play. If him missing a few months isn't a big deal, then IMO, the money would've been better spent on another pitcher.


Again.. I seriously doubt Lowries ten million is preventing us from doing anything. If they wanted another 5th starter to compete with Vargas they would sign one. If they dont sign somebody, it will be because they like what Vargas did in the second half last year and likely feel pretty good about him.
I wonder if Lowrie  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2019 11:37 am : link
was already injured before being signed.

did they give him a physical?

I know knee injuries can happen without contact (and baseball obviously isn't a contact sport) but this seems so Mets like.

RE: I wonder if Lowrie  
figgy2989 : 2/21/2019 11:38 am : link
In comment 14302209 pjcas18 said:
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was already injured before being signed.

did they give him a physical?

I know knee injuries can happen without contact (and baseball obviously isn't a contact sport) but this seems so Mets like.


My thought as well pj. I am thinking this is something that was lingering with him.
RE: I wonder if Lowrie  
ZGiants98 : 2/21/2019 11:39 am : link
In comment 14302209 pjcas18 said:
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was already injured before being signed.

did they give him a physical?

I know knee injuries can happen without contact (and baseball obviously isn't a contact sport) but this seems so Mets like.


Hes saying he didnt feel anything until he started to speed things up in preparation for the season but who knows.
Well if he tore his ACL  
ZGiants98 : 2/21/2019 11:46 am : link
That will fucking suck. Reading between the lines with Shecky pushing for Valencia Im just going to assume thats the case for now. We cant even make it to the first god damn ST game without a huge injury.
RE: Well if he tore his ACL  
Shecky : 2/21/2019 11:51 am : link
In comment 14302222 ZGiants98 said:
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That will fucking suck. Reading between the lines with Shecky pushing for Valencia Im just going to assume thats the case for now. We cant even make it to the first god damn ST game without a huge injury.

I hate talkingmeds, so wont but concern for now is its the lingering and it popped. In that case it will linger, and they have the depth. Worse would be a tear and out ~6 weeks again, the depth isnt there, so no biggie. Either situation would be one of those it could linger, or once healed he can deal with it. Lol, I know thats vague, but no one Knows for sure which it is, just the educated guesses for now. Either way, I dont see him playing in Sundsys game...
In honor of Pete  
Shecky : 2/21/2019 11:53 am : link
I am now official changing Metro to Da moving forward. And Da could probably decipher the above...
RE: RE: Well if he tore his ACL  
ZGiants98 : 2/21/2019 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14302229 Shecky said:
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In comment 14302222 ZGiants98 said:


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That will fucking suck. Reading between the lines with Shecky pushing for Valencia Im just going to assume thats the case for now. We cant even make it to the first god damn ST game without a huge injury.


I hate talkingmeds, so wont but concern for now is its the lingering and it popped. In that case it will linger, and they have the depth. Worse would be a tear and out ~6 weeks again, the depth isnt there, so no biggie. Either situation would be one of those it could linger, or once healed he can deal with it. Lol, I know thats vague, but no one Knows for sure which it is, just the educated guesses for now. Either way, I dont see him playing in Sundsys game...


So wait.. a tear and hes only out 6 weeks? Wouldnt a tear mean surgery? If he just popped something and its sore... no big deal.
just do the surgery now & clean it up as best they can for long haul  
Eric on Li : 2/21/2019 12:44 pm : link
welcome to the mets BVW and Jed!!!! Maybe we'll get some more insurance money back to sign another pitcher.
Mets saying they won't try to  
Metnut : 2/21/2019 12:47 pm : link
stretch out either Lugo or Gsellmen this spring and that they'll exclusively be relievers.

If this is really the case, the Mets options if they need a spot start are awful.
Sign  
DanMetroMan : 2/21/2019 12:53 pm : link
Buchholz. Thanks.
RE: Mets saying they won't try to  
ZGiants98 : 2/21/2019 1:09 pm : link
In comment 14302313 Metnut said:
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stretch out either Lugo or Gsellmen this spring and that they'll exclusively be relievers.

If this is really the case, the Mets options if they need a spot start are awful.


Spot starts do probably end up going to Dowdy, Lockett, Flexen, and Oswalt but if it were something more long term, Im betting Gsellman or Lugo could transition back. BVW mentioned them as SP depth not much more than a week ago.
RE: Mets saying they won't try to  
giantsFC : 2/21/2019 1:32 pm : link
In comment 14302313 Metnut said:
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stretch out either Lugo or Gsellmen this spring and that they'll exclusively be relievers.

If this is really the case, the Mets options if they need a spot start are awful.


I don't get this.

Isn't Callaway alwasy preaching about relievers versatility and pitchers who can throw multiple innings or start games in a pinch?

Jesus this team is always a walking contradiction.





AND WHATS THIS ABOUT NIMMO'S ARM?????  
giantsFC : 2/21/2019 1:33 pm : link
I saw a comment above. Any elaboration on this????
RE: AND WHATS THIS ABOUT NIMMO'S ARM?????  
DanMetroMan : 2/21/2019 1:50 pm : link
In comment 14302405 giantsFC said:
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I saw a comment above. Any elaboration on this????


Sore shoulder. They are only allowing him to throw underhand at the moment. He nor the team is concerned.
Didn't Lowrie have an MRI this morning?  
Metnut : 2/21/2019 5:08 pm : link
Usually teams report the results of these things the same day.
RE: Didn't Lowrie have an MRI this morning?  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14302677 Metnut said:
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Usually teams report the results of these things the same day.


I found an update on twitter:


Amazin Mets
‏ @los_mets
3h3 hours ago

Mets Daily Update (2/21):

Jed Lowrie - Dead

No others deaths at this point, but more are expected to come.
RE: Didn't Lowrie have an MRI this morning?  
ZGiants98 : 2/21/2019 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14302677 Metnut said:
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Usually teams report the results of these things the same day.


They flew him all the way to NY to get the MRI which is so annoying. He could have probably had one done at 50 places in port St. Lucie. In fact, dont the Mets rehab players there? Why dont they have one there anyway?
RE: RE: Didn't Lowrie have an MRI this morning?  
Shecky : 2/21/2019 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14302684 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14302677 Metnut said:


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Usually teams report the results of these things the same day.



I found an update on twitter:


Amazin Mets
‏ @los_mets
3h3 hours ago

Mets Daily Update (2/21):

Jed Lowrie - Dead

No others deaths at this point, but more are expected to come.


I literally laughed out loud reading that. That was hysterical, whoever posted that
RE: RE: AND WHATS THIS ABOUT NIMMO'S ARM?????  
giantsFC : 2/21/2019 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14302431 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14302405 giantsFC said:


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I saw a comment above. Any elaboration on this????



Sore shoulder. They are only allowing him to throw underhand at the moment. He nor the team is concerned.


soooo...Lupica will be reporting he has a torn Labrum in...about 3 weeks.
RE: RE: RE: Didn't Lowrie have an MRI this morning?  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2019 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14302695 Shecky said:
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In comment 14302684 pjcas18 said:


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In comment 14302677 Metnut said:


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Usually teams report the results of these things the same day.



I found an update on twitter:


Amazin Mets
‏ @los_mets
3h3 hours ago

Mets Daily Update (2/21):

Jed Lowrie - Dead

No others deaths at this point, but more are expected to come.



I literally laughed out loud reading that. That was hysterical, whoever posted that


Some random guy on twitter, not my doing, though I laughed too.
Thanks for giving us all a heart attack SHECKY!! ;)  
ZGiants98 : 2/21/2019 7:24 pm : link

Brodie Van Wagenen said on @wcbs880 that Jed Lowries MRI revealed no significant damage, and theyll bring him along slowly. #Mets
brodie says mri clean, will bring him along slowly  
Eric on Li : 2/21/2019 7:25 pm : link
so guess that's good news. If he plays well we certainly have enough depth to get him regular rest. Just hope it doesn't impact his performance.
Can we just bubble wrap this team until  
ZGiants98 : 2/21/2019 7:30 pm : link
April now. Let the Dom Smiths and Dilson Herrera's of the world play ST by themselves. Starters can go back home and be with their loved ones. :)
RE: brodie says mri clean, will bring him along slowly  
Metnut : 2/21/2019 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14302770 Eric on Li said:
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so guess that's good news. If he plays well we certainly have enough depth to get him regular rest. Just hope it doesn't impact his performance.


Awesome!
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