Just thought I'd start a new thread for the deadline which is 4 days away: Monday 2/25 at 3pm.
First off, the Rangers are heavily shopping Zuccarello, Hayes and McQuaid, but teams are asking about Kreider.
The Leafs have shown the most interest so far, but the Bruins and Predators have also shown interest.
Gorton will allegedly not move Kreider unless it's an offer "he can't refuse". Kreider finally showing the true 200 foot game I thought he'd show is not someone I'd trade at this point.
The most common names expected to be moved are:
Mark Stone (OTT)
Matt Duchene (OTT)
Artemi Panarin (CBJ)
Jesse Puljujarvi (EDM)
Ilya Kovalchuk (LAK)
and more.
I'll keep this thread updated with news and rumors as it comes out and I welcome others too as well.
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justice to me, if the Habs trade for Hayes as much as I've criticized him over the years. I don't want Hayes, Zucc or McQuaid on the Canadiens. They're not a contender or a Hayes, Zucc, or McQuaid away from being one.
Trading valuable prospect assets or picks for any of them would be inappropriate.
Johansson would be different but I wouldn't give up much for him either.
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Who are the top prospects on the Habs? Obviously Kotkaniemi is #1 and he's not going anywhere. Same with Domi.
Mete? Meh. We have our version of him in DeAngelo.
Is Ryan Poehling your #1 prospect who's not in the NHL?
Nick Suzuki
Ryan Poehling
Josh Brook
I love Alex Romanov
Jesse Ylonen
top 5 after KotKaniemi IMO
Pierre LeBrun (@PierreVLeBrun) February 23, 2019
I'm confident that the Devils will get a 1st round pick in return. I was hoping the Devils would get another 1st in order to draft G Spencer Knight.
And this market may be tight to being with since EK and ROR cost 2 playoff contenders first round pick before the season started and Montreal has already said they aren't dealing their pick despite being in contention.
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CLB/OTT deal is Dzingel and Calgary7th (OTT owns) in 2019 for 2 2nds and Anthony Duclair
I've gotta think they are loading up to hedge against dealing off Panarin to recoup some of these assets and retool on the fly. Or they are really rolling the dice.
confirmed now for 2 conditional picks.
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CLB/OTT deal is Dzingel and Calgary7th (OTT owns) in 2019 for 2 2nds and Anthony Duclair
I've gotta think they are loading up to hedge against dealing off Panarin to recoup some of these assets and retool on the fly. Or they are really rolling the dice.
If the Devils don't get a 1st then I would still be happy with two 2nd's. I consider Johansson a better player than Dzingel so hopefully the return will be at least the same.
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confirmed now for 2 conditional picks.
2nd and 3rd rounder. Jeff Gorton is absolutely awful at maximizing value.
Given that return and Dzingel, I'd guess Hayes/Stone/Panarin are the only guys who would bring back firsts of the remaining names on the market.
Bad job there.
So, the conditions can make the haul a lot better... but neither of those things are certainties and if neither of those things happen, this is a really shitty coup
McDonagh + Miller trade? Atrocious.
This trade? Horrible. Truly awful.
McKenzie tweet - ( New Window )
It's official
I don't think fans will be happy, but Zucc is a 31 year old rental.
This is what they were projecting all along, no?
Gorton: ...Okay, but that third becomes a first if you re-sign him.
Nill off the phone: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Nill on the phone: What? Oh yeah, sure sure. Third becomes a first IF we re-sign him.
It's akin to the Stars trading an unconditional first to re-signing Zucc.
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DAL gets Zuccarello
NYR gets 2nd + 3rd (w/ conditions)
Zucc's been really good this yr, especially lately, and mid-round picks are only long shots anyway. I don't know /why/ DAL thinks they're a contender but they paid a good price for a good rental.
The cap hit is probably why the 3rd was thrown in or maybe why it was a 3rd instead of a later pick. The Rangers don't care about 2018-2019 cap at this point, right?
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Awesome. Great job
The cap hit is probably why the 3rd was thrown in or maybe why it was a 3rd instead of a later pick. The Rangers don't care about 2018-2019 cap at this point, right?
No. Plenty of cap space to work with and it's not we're committing longterm to anyone.
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Awesome. Great job
The cap hit is probably why the 3rd was thrown in or maybe why it was a 3rd instead of a later pick. The Rangers don't care about 2018-2019 cap at this point, right?
No. Plenty of cap space to work with and it's not we're committing longterm to anyone.
Right. So keeping as much cap (if it gets you more/better picks) was smart.
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Awesome. Great job
The cap hit is probably why the 3rd was thrown in or maybe why it was a 3rd instead of a later pick. The Rangers don't care about 2018-2019 cap at this point, right?
No. Plenty of cap space to work with and it's not we're committing longterm to anyone.
Right. So keeping as much cap (if it gets you more/better picks) was smart.
But it shouldn't. We essentially traded Zucc for a second rounder. Did you see what Ryan fucking Dzingel got?
Said a 1st and Logan Stanley is about what he'd expect.
Logan Stanley is a BIG LHD. like Chara big.
Said a 1st and Logan Stanley is about what he'd expect.
Logan Stanley is a BIG LHD. like Chara big.
Does he move like molasses?
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Awesome. Great job
The cap hit is probably why the 3rd was thrown in or maybe why it was a 3rd instead of a later pick. The Rangers don't care about 2018-2019 cap at this point, right?
No. Plenty of cap space to work with and it's not we're committing longterm to anyone.
Right. So keeping as much cap (if it gets you more/better picks) was smart.
But it shouldn't. We essentially traded Zucc for a second rounder. Did you see what Ryan fucking Dzingel got?
Pretty similar trades for similar players.
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Elliott Friedman suggested Winnipeg an option for Hayes.
Said a 1st and Logan Stanley is about what he'd expect.
Logan Stanley is a BIG LHD. like Chara big.
Does he move like molasses?
Not yet. he's 20 years old, but at 6'7 240 pounds he moves well. As he gets older though I'm sure he'll get slower.
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Elliott Friedman suggested Winnipeg an option for Hayes.
Said a 1st and Logan Stanley is about what he'd expect.
Logan Stanley is a BIG LHD. like Chara big.
Does he move like molasses?
Not yet. he's 20 years old, but at 6'7 240 pounds he moves well. As he gets older though I'm sure he'll get slower.
Just based on doing a bit of reading on him, he sounds like the lefty version of McIlrath.
Said a 1st and Logan Stanley is about what he'd expect.
Logan Stanley is a BIG LHD. like Chara big.
Is Boston still in the mix for Hayes?
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Elliott Friedman suggested Winnipeg an option for Hayes.
Said a 1st and Logan Stanley is about what he'd expect.
Logan Stanley is a BIG LHD. like Chara big.
Is Boston still in the mix for Hayes?
Probably. He said the same teams are in the mix for Stone and Hayes.
Winnipeg, Boston, Nashville
probably more teams, but that's who he mentioned.
Have to believe they don't intend on signing him after the season. If they don't make the playoffs , they could be 11 to 14th
Ok. Assuming they don't trade Bob and Panarin now... They also won't accumulate assets when they walk.
That's going all in.
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Awesome. Great job
The cap hit is probably why the 3rd was thrown in or maybe why it was a 3rd instead of a later pick. The Rangers don't care about 2018-2019 cap at this point, right?
No. Plenty of cap space to work with and it's not we're committing longterm to anyone.
Right. So keeping as much cap (if it gets you more/better picks) was smart.
But it shouldn't. We essentially traded Zucc for a second rounder. Did you see what Ryan fucking Dzingel got?
One guy is 31 the other is 26.
They are playing now I say they do something tomorrow and Monday.
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Awesome. Great job
The cap hit is probably why the 3rd was thrown in or maybe why it was a 3rd instead of a later pick. The Rangers don't care about 2018-2019 cap at this point, right?
No. Plenty of cap space to work with and it's not we're committing longterm to anyone.
Right. So keeping as much cap (if it gets you more/better picks) was smart.
But it shouldn't. We essentially traded Zucc for a second rounder. Did you see what Ryan fucking Dzingel got?
One guy is 31 the other is 26.
Stop worrying about important differences
Meh. No need to overpay.
Assets will be cheaper in the off season. This team can win without getting fleeced.
Good trade for the Sabres
up to you. I don't mind either way. what do you think?
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Are you going to start a new thread for the deadline today or use this one? Just want to know which one to refresh!
up to you. I don't mind either way. what do you think?
Start a new one.
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Are you going to start a new thread for the deadline today or use this one? Just want to know which one to refresh!
up to you. I don't mind either way. what do you think?
Start a new one ;-)