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Brady to take a pay cut next year

Archer : 2/21/2019 1:58 pm
Listening to Colin Cowherd he just stated that Brady has agreed to take a pay cut for next year
He also stated that it is (8) years in a row , since 2010, that Brady has been paid market rate
This is why the Patriots win
Their best player is willing to take less so that the Patriots can field a better team

Is there another football player of Brady’s stature who takes less than they are worth?
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I haven't seen this confirmed anywhere...  
bw in dc : 2/21/2019 2:59 pm : link
Not that I expect Brady to seek a 3yr/$120M+ deal, which he deserves, but he's just wound differently, and chasing and making history.

The irony of this it still hasn't/won't stop BB from bargain shopping.

Maybe this is the first step towards the Beckham trade... ;)
RE: I haven't seen this confirmed anywhere...  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/21/2019 3:02 pm : link
In comment 14302562 bw in dc said:
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Not that I expect Brady to seek a 3yr/$120M+ deal, which he deserves, but he's just wound differently, and chasing and making history.

The irony of this it still hasn't/won't stop BB from bargain shopping.

Maybe this is the first step towards the Beckham trade... ;)


That's not why he does it at all. He gets paid, just not through his contract, through the side business.
RE: RE: One of the main problems with Eli is that he's a bottom tier QB  
Heisenberg : 2/21/2019 3:02 pm : link
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paid like a Top tier QB



you must've forgotten what a bottom tier QB looks like. (Hint: it's not Eli)


I love Eli. So I suppose it depends on how big the tier is. He's definitely paid like he's a top 15 qb and he isn't anymore. It's not exactly his fault he's overpaid but he definitely underperforms his cap allocation.
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MetsAreBack : 2/21/2019 3:03 pm : link
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He's pretty clearly able to do this because he's still got money flowing in through other channels. He's already set for life and is in a very unique situation.

People see this stuff and then just expect every guy in the league to do it for the sake of his team. It's not a fair expectation.




Well I get this. If I am the head of the Players Union, I'd be livid. It hurts all the other player's leverage.


The Facts don't support this argument. As it stands, QBs continue to set record contract deals with unproven types like Jimmy G approaching $30 mil/year.

I actually argue the passing rules have gotten so ridiculous that QBs are way overpaid to what is "fair" versus other positions on the field. Not only the rules, but the injury protections put in place - one reason OL and RBs can't get paid is because more often than not they can't give you 16 healthy games in a year.

How is it good for the game that one position routinely eats up 20% of your salary cap while other guys struggle to have a 7-8 year career at a few million per year?
Who cares  
RinR : 2/21/2019 3:06 pm : link
F the Patriots
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BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/21/2019 3:08 pm : link
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He's pretty clearly able to do this because he's still got money flowing in through other channels. He's already set for life and is in a very unique situation.

People see this stuff and then just expect every guy in the league to do it for the sake of his team. It's not a fair expectation.




Well I get this. If I am the head of the Players Union, I'd be livid. It hurts all the other player's leverage.



The Facts don't support this argument. As it stands, QBs continue to set record contract deals with unproven types like Jimmy G approaching $30 mil/year.

I actually argue the passing rules have gotten so ridiculous that QBs are way overpaid to what is "fair" versus other positions on the field. Not only the rules, but the injury protections put in place - one reason OL and RBs can't get paid is because more often than not they can't give you 16 healthy games in a year.

How is it good for the game that one position routinely eats up 20% of your salary cap while other guys struggle to have a 7-8 year career at a few million per year?


Well for one, it helps create parody throughout the league. So Brady not getting paid market value for being the Greatest of ALl Time is really a sham. If he were paid the right way, I bet you the dynasty doesn't exist. BB uses it to peg all FA's against. You want to come here, you need to take an undervalue contract. I have the GOAT QB, and he takes a massively under paid contract. It's just cheating the system. All because Kraft, his "CO-Owner" can give him as much money as he wants through his side business.
RE: The Gisele Example  
steve in ky : 2/21/2019 3:17 pm : link
In comment 14302545 Lambuth_Special said:
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I find it funny that Brady's wife is propped up as a reason why he takes a paycut and why others can't do it. Like Eli doesn't come from a football royalty family with more money than they know what to do with.

And for the record: I don't begrudge Eli at all for not taking a paycut. He, and all players, should absolutely try to earn as much money as possible throughout their careers.


I don't think when Archie played he ended up with more money than he knows what to do with and even if he does what makes you think he is giving much of any of his money to Eli? I don't really see your point, although I do agree with the second point. He owes it to himself and his family to maximize his income while he can. NFL careers are short lived.

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MetsAreBack : 2/21/2019 3:26 pm : link
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Well for one, it helps create parody throughout the league. So Brady not getting paid market value for being the Greatest of ALl Time is really a sham.


I agree with you, but this has nothing to do with the your earlier point about the players union / union head being livid about his AAV contracts.
RE: RE: The Gisele Example  
Tesla : 2/21/2019 3:33 pm : link
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He owes it to himself and his family to maximize his income while he can. NFL careers are short lived.


Eli's played 15 years and made $235 million thus far in his career. He has every right to get paid whatever the Giants are willing to pay him, but I don't think he's the best example of the "life is short in the NFL gotta make money while you can" argument.
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BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/21/2019 3:33 pm : link
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Well for one, it helps create parody throughout the league. So Brady not getting paid market value for being the Greatest of ALl Time is really a sham.



I agree with you, but this has nothing to do with the your earlier point about the players union / union head being livid about his AAV contracts.


The point being is that the Union should be pushing for the "best of all time" QB to be paid like the best of all time. That's their job. It helps all the players.
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steve in ky : 2/21/2019 3:37 pm : link
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Well for one, it helps create parody throughout the league. So Brady not getting paid market value for being the Greatest of ALl Time is really a sham.



I agree with you, but this has nothing to do with the your earlier point about the players union / union head being livid about his AAV contracts.


Most pro athlete unions frown upon high profile players taking below market deals.
RE: RE: The Gisele Example  
christian : 2/21/2019 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14302582 steve in ky said:
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I find it funny that Brady's wife is propped up as a reason why he takes a paycut and why others can't do it. Like Eli doesn't come from a football royalty family with more money than they know what to do with.

And for the record: I don't begrudge Eli at all for not taking a paycut. He, and all players, should absolutely try to earn as much money as possible throughout their careers.



I don't think when Archie played he ended up with more money than he knows what to do with and even if he does what makes you think he is giving much of any of his money to Eli? I don't really see your point, although I do agree with the second point. He owes it to himself and his family to maximize his income while he can. NFL careers are short lived.


Manning Inc. is one of the most powerful entities in professional sports, and generates a ton of money and value for the whole gang.

The Giants and the NFL play into it, and Eli certainly benefits financially on the back of his family's value.

It's a weird relationship with Eli. On one hand, good for him for getting paid.

But let's be real, if he was player X and was a mid-tier performer with a top tier salary he'd be cut or negotiated down.

His top 10 salary is based on sentimentality and previous performance.
RE: It’s a generally accepted fact in football circles  
Les in TO : 2/21/2019 3:40 pm : link
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Kraft has a handshake agreement with TB to pay him well for a post playing career org role. This isn’t just TB being such a wonderful guy that he’s accepting less than he’s worth.
yup a kush 7 figure VP Team Culture gig is in the cards!


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uther99 : 2/21/2019 3:40 pm : link
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He owes it to himself and his family to maximize his income while he can. NFL careers are short lived.




Eli's played 15 years and made $235 million thus far in his career. He has every right to get paid whatever the Giants are willing to pay him, but I don't think he's the best example of the "life is short in the NFL gotta make money while you can" argument.


Does that number include endorsements? just curious
Maybe ELI should restructure and create more cap  
TMS : 2/21/2019 3:43 pm : link
space so we have a better chance to get him into the hall. Brady is already there but ELI is a toss up without a few more decent seasons. Enough space for some FA pickups could go a long way. MO.
And remeber what happened with Eli's side business.....  
WideRight : 2/21/2019 3:46 pm : link

Got ugly fast.
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steve in ky : 2/21/2019 3:46 pm : link
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He owes it to himself and his family to maximize his income while he can. NFL careers are short lived.




Eli's played 15 years and made $235 million thus far in his career. He has every right to get paid whatever the Giants are willing to pay him, but I don't think he's the best example of the "life is short in the NFL gotta make money while you can" argument.


Regardless whether anyone things it's too much, or more than enough, that's not really the point. When taking into account ones entire life It's still a relatively short window for him to be able to earn that kind of money.
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MetsAreBack : 2/21/2019 3:47 pm : link
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Well for one, it helps create parody throughout the league. So Brady not getting paid market value for being the Greatest of ALl Time is really a sham.



I agree with you, but this has nothing to do with the your earlier point about the players union / union head being livid about his AAV contracts.



The point being is that the Union should be pushing for the "best of all time" QB to be paid like the best of all time. That's their job. It helps all the players.


Its a salary cap league. QBs continue to set record deals, despite what Brady is doing. Brady taking less helps his non-qB teammates get more... which I guess helps non-QB players on other teams get paid more.

I think this argument holds more water in a non-capped sport.
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bw in dc : 2/21/2019 3:48 pm : link
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Not that I expect Brady to seek a 3yr/$120M+ deal, which he deserves, but he's just wound differently, and chasing and making history.

The irony of this it still hasn't/won't stop BB from bargain shopping.

Maybe this is the first step towards the Beckham trade... ;)



That's not why he does it at all. He gets paid, just not through his contract, through the side business.


Of course that's why Brady takes less. Case in point - in 2007 he specifically re-negotiated so the Pats could add Moss.

I don't know about any non-cap financial deals he has with Pats Central, and how that may subsidize income, but I do know Brady understands the economics of football. And the less cap money he demands, increases the chances of his football team adding more and better talent.
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BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/21/2019 4:00 pm : link
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Well for one, it helps create parody throughout the league. So Brady not getting paid market value for being the Greatest of ALl Time is really a sham.



I agree with you, but this has nothing to do with the your earlier point about the players union / union head being livid about his AAV contracts.



The point being is that the Union should be pushing for the "best of all time" QB to be paid like the best of all time. That's their job. It helps all the players.



Its a salary cap league. QBs continue to set record deals, despite what Brady is doing. Brady taking less helps his non-qB teammates get more... which I guess helps non-QB players on other teams get paid more.

I think this argument holds more water in a non-capped sport.


If Brady got paid accordingly, it would be higher.
RE: RE: RE: I haven't seen this confirmed anywhere...  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/21/2019 4:02 pm : link
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Not that I expect Brady to seek a 3yr/$120M+ deal, which he deserves, but he's just wound differently, and chasing and making history.

The irony of this it still hasn't/won't stop BB from bargain shopping.

Maybe this is the first step towards the Beckham trade... ;)



That's not why he does it at all. He gets paid, just not through his contract, through the side business.



Of course that's why Brady takes less. Case in point - in 2007 he specifically re-negotiated so the Pats could add Moss.

I don't know about any non-cap financial deals he has with Pats Central, and how that may subsidize income, but I do know Brady understands the economics of football. And the less cap money he demands, increases the chances of his football team adding more and better talent.


He's not just saying oh boy I'll take a paycut to fit Moss or whoever in. He takes let's say a $5 million paycut and then gets it back as CoOwner of TB12 and Kraft is just funneling the money to you.
You know, if you want your wife to be wealthier, and  
smshmth8690 : 2/21/2019 4:04 pm : link
she is in the entertainment business, I heard NY is the place to be Russell.
RE: Who cares  
SHO'NUFF : 2/21/2019 4:13 pm : link
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F the Patriots


who cares? the league should care. i'm surprised that this hasn't gained more scrutiny.
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ron mexico : 2/21/2019 4:13 pm : link
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He owes it to himself and his family to maximize his income while he can. NFL careers are short lived.




Eli's played 15 years and made $235 million thus far in his career. He has every right to get paid whatever the Giants are willing to pay him, but I don't think he's the best example of the "life is short in the NFL gotta make money while you can" argument.



Does that number include endorsements? just curious


nope

Fun fact. This year Eli will pass his brother as the player paid the most money in his career
RE: RE: One of the main problems with Eli is that he's a bottom tier QB  
Thunderstruck27 : 2/21/2019 4:26 pm : link
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paid like a Top tier QB



you must've forgotten what a bottom tier QB looks like. (Hint: it's not Eli)



I've surely forgotten...what, with all the success Eli has had in the last 7 years. Must be tough on other teams looking up at us.
If you don’t think Kraft has been funneling tens of millions to ...  
Boy Cord : 2/21/2019 4:46 pm : link
... Brady in offshore accounts you’re fooling yourself. They are circumventing the cap.
RE: If you don’t think Kraft has been funneling tens of millions to ...  
Matt in SGS : 2/21/2019 4:57 pm : link
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... Brady in offshore accounts you’re fooling yourself. They are circumventing the cap.


Offshore? He's a major funder of the TB12 scam and the quack trainer who Belichick kicks out of Patriots HQ and blamed for some of Gronk's injury issues.

The reality is, this is uncharted territory for the league to have a player so locked into a team and able to create his own side business that basically circumvents the cap. Less than 1% of the top of 1% of the NFL players would ever be in position to do this.
RE: And remeber what happened with Eli's side business.....  
BBelle21 : 2/21/2019 5:04 pm : link
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Got ugly fast.


Eli never had a side business
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arcarsenal : 2/21/2019 5:04 pm : link
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He's pretty clearly able to do this because he's still got money flowing in through other channels. He's already set for life and is in a very unique situation.

People see this stuff and then just expect every guy in the league to do it for the sake of his team. It's not a fair expectation.




Well I get this. If I am the head of the Players Union, I'd be livid. It hurts all the other player's leverage.



The Facts don't support this argument. As it stands, QBs continue to set record contract deals with unproven types like Jimmy G approaching $30 mil/year.

I actually argue the passing rules have gotten so ridiculous that QBs are way overpaid to what is "fair" versus other positions on the field. Not only the rules, but the injury protections put in place - one reason OL and RBs can't get paid is because more often than not they can't give you 16 healthy games in a year.

How is it good for the game that one position routinely eats up 20% of your salary cap while other guys struggle to have a 7-8 year career at a few million per year?



Well for one, it helps create parody throughout the league. So Brady not getting paid market value for being the Greatest of ALl Time is really a sham. If he were paid the right way, I bet you the dynasty doesn't exist. BB uses it to peg all FA's against. You want to come here, you need to take an undervalue contract. I have the GOAT QB, and he takes a massively under paid contract. It's just cheating the system. All because Kraft, his "CO-Owner" can give him as much money as he wants through his side business.


Damn, unfortunate typo in that first sentence. :)
RE: RE: His business  
robbieballs2003 : 2/21/2019 5:05 pm : link
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just got a huge investment from the Patriots, I am sure.



Exactly. TB12 just got some additional "seed" money to do some "research". Maybe they can hire sxcda for their R&D department. That dude knows his shit.


Winner winner!
Don’t understand why some people  
BBelle21 : 2/21/2019 5:07 pm : link
Actually think Tom Brady is taking a “pay cut”. He’s getting his money and it’s naive to think otherwise.
And getting it made up on the back end  
montanagiant : 2/21/2019 5:13 pm : link
Via his sports medicine company right next door to the stadium
RE: His business  
Beer Man : 2/21/2019 5:32 pm : link
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just got a huge investment from the Patriots, I am sure.
+1
In the end we are all living in a Tom Brady world  
giantsFC : 2/21/2019 5:52 pm : link
Heaven is surely all Patriots fans.
I have a different take on it  
dd in Mass : 2/21/2019 5:56 pm : link
Because of the unique relationship that Brady and Kraft have. I think they have an agreement in principle whereby Brady will become a part owner of the Pats when he retires. Bob Kraft will step down, his son becomes the CEO and Brady is installed at the President of the Pats.

This does many things, it keeps Brady attached to the team for long after his playing days. It's great from a marketing standpoint, that the GOAT is still with the team. When they experience some lean times. They will still have Brady doing press conferences as the face of the team.

Win Win for the Pats
RE: And getting it made up on the back end  
OBJRoyal : 2/21/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14302680 montanagiant said:
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Via his sports medicine company right next door to the stadium


When I went to Gillett a few years back, there definitely was a TB12 store in "Patriot Place"
RE: If you don’t think Kraft has been funneling tens of millions to ...  
FStubbs : 2/21/2019 6:16 pm : link
In comment 14302660 Boy Cord said:
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... Brady in offshore accounts you’re fooling yourself. They are circumventing the cap.


No need to go offshore, they just go next door:

http://www.patriot-place.com/tb12
I know everyone  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2019 6:25 pm : link
likes to think they know everything and because they read something someone says it's a fact, but how dumb do you really think other teams are?

Don't you think if Brady was getting funding from Kraft for TB12 to offset his "pay cuts" at a minimum the Jets, Bills and Dolphins would be all over the league to investigate it?

Don't you think other NFL teams would be on their highly paid players to set up side business in a similar way so they too could take advantage of circumventing the salary cap?

Don't you think at least one team would file some kind of complaint that at least would warrant an investigation?

Or are the BBI posters who know about this TB12 skimming operation just that much smarter than every NFL franchise who just shrugs and says that Tom Brady is a swell guy.

And if somehow by some stroke of I guess luck, Brady and the Pats are getting away with this then shame the fuck on the Giants and Eli for not starting the EM10 nutrition company two or three years ago, so the Giants can shave off 5 - 10M off the cap and get an OL or a DL.
RE: RE: RE: The Gisele Example  
Leg of Theismann : 2/21/2019 6:37 pm : link
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He owes it to himself and his family to maximize his income while he can. NFL careers are short lived.




Eli's played 15 years and made $235 million thus far in his career. He has every right to get paid whatever the Giants are willing to pay him, but I don't think he's the best example of the "life is short in the NFL gotta make money while you can" argument.


LOL I was thinking the same thing. This argument makes sense when you consider the average career in the NFL is like 3 years and average salary is a couple mill per year. Then yeah I understand you gotta make every dollar you can because it has to last you and your family the rest of your life. Even the best players only get 1 big pay day in their careers and it can all end with injury in an instant. But Eli Manning? C'mon now.
Oh and not only is Brady a great player playing at market rate  
Leg of Theismann : 2/21/2019 6:40 pm : link
But he's also a lot better than Eli Manning at this point. We're paying a lot more for a guy who is not as good. The reason we win fewer games is pretty easily explained by that simple fact.
Kraft/Heinz stock just took a plunge  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/21/2019 7:00 pm : link
Becaus ethe SEC is looking into shady accounting practices. Money being hidden to pay Tom!
RE: I know everyone  
ron mexico : 2/21/2019 7:00 pm : link
In comment 14302718 pjcas18 said:
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likes to think they know everything and because they read something someone says it's a fact, but how dumb do you really think other teams are?

Don't you think if Brady was getting funding from Kraft for TB12 to offset his "pay cuts" at a minimum the Jets, Bills and Dolphins would be all over the league to investigate it?

Don't you think other NFL teams would be on their highly paid players to set up side business in a similar way so they too could take advantage of circumventing the salary cap?

Don't you think at least one team would file some kind of complaint that at least would warrant an investigation?

Or are the BBI posters who know about this TB12 skimming operation just that much smarter than every NFL franchise who just shrugs and says that Tom Brady is a swell guy.

And if somehow by some stroke of I guess luck, Brady and the Pats are getting away with this then shame the fuck on the Giants and Eli for not starting the EM10 nutrition company two or three years ago, so the Giants can shave off 5 - 10M off the cap and get an OL or a DL.


Not to mention the IRS would be interested in such activity.
He's also the only highly paid QB in the NFL  
USAF NYG Fan : 2/21/2019 7:14 pm : link
who's wife is worth more than twice as much as him. He's one of the few successful men in the country that if he got divorced, he'd get the alimony check. Then again, she probably made him sign a prenup.
In the end it is an investment in himself.  
short lease : 2/21/2019 7:19 pm : link
The more things he wins ... the more endorsements he gets and the amount he is paid for those endorsements is sky high. Pay him now or pay him later .... but if he chooses to get paid later he gets all those rings to go with the money.
This is just another way the Patriots  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 2/21/2019 8:55 pm : link
Cheat... sure , it looks like he took a pay cut. But they the Pats just invest more into Brady’s business. Ridiculous that they havent investigated this shut yet.
That Franchise is light years ahead  
prdave73 : 2/21/2019 8:57 pm : link
Of everyone else. They have all the right pieces in place.
I think Solder  
Doomster : 2/21/2019 9:12 pm : link
should take a pay cut, he averages more than Brady....
Fuck Brady and fuck the pats too.  
djm : 2/21/2019 9:15 pm : link
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RE: I have a different take on it  
SHO'NUFF : 2/22/2019 3:34 am : link
In comment 14302704 dd in Mass said:
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Because of the unique relationship that Brady and Kraft have. I think they have an agreement in principle whereby Brady will become a part owner of the Pats when he retires. Bob Kraft will step down, his son becomes the CEO and Brady is installed at the President of the Pats.

This does many things, it keeps Brady attached to the team for long after his playing days. It's great from a marketing standpoint, that the GOAT is still with the team. When they experience some lean times. They will still have Brady doing press conferences as the face of the team.

Win Win for the Pats


unique relationship? you don't say!



RE: Oh and not only is Brady a great player playing at market rate  
SHO'NUFF : 2/22/2019 3:36 am : link
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But he's also a lot better than Eli Manning at this point. We're paying a lot more for a guy who is not as good. The reason we win fewer games is pretty easily explained by that simple fact.


False.
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